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Rav Yoshe Ber would have been first to stand up and proclaim
that orthodoxy is foremost about Core Beliefs
Would you studied from, means precisely how much?Zero
gavra_at_work,
Ludicrous
So hashkapha counts for how much?
How many notable Conservatives and Charedim ( according to your own chevra’s defintion would that include?Scores
My grandfather studied in Yeshiva College in 1937-38 (he had enough with the antics going on and walked out together with a few friends and went over to chofetz chaim ]
Would that make him and/or my family MO?
This is OO/Conservative method:
1) Decide what conclusion you want to arrive at. This will often be based on predicting what the Jewish ethical response must be in a world that has changed so significantly from the early legal texts of Judaism, that the modern author is given much leeway.
4) Find a medrash as a springboard to show how quintessentially Jewish, how much in the spirit of Jewish law your own conclusion is.
5) Accept your original argument.
“I don’t know of any chassidus that permits rewriting halacha”
The Tzemach Tzedek gave credit to the Misnagdim for that
K-cup,
Read Toldos yaakov yoseph for one
Call them Reformodox .it is more appropo
Many of OO are to the Left of some the Conservative movement.
Nomenclature is of import
yytz, gavra_at_work,
Very shrewd to quibble about minutiae
Rabbi Gordimer among others have written extensively on OO
Your first supposition is correct
Discussed under the topic of Chanuka
Regarding early Chassidism ,Avi K is on target
My earlier comment, with references included was censored out
“Try tolerance, people. It feels good.”
“I second that last statement! “
Would anyone bother to read YWN ?For recipes?
you would be out of a job:)
lesschumras,etc.,
Strawmen are awfully useful,maybe little more than a distraction
The Cardinal Precepts and the the 3 Chamuros without apologetics
Is what is demanded
Authentic rightwing MO are in ,everyone else is up in the air
“Back in the 80s”it was even more common! than today the refrain ‘Decline of the Doros’
Avi k,
“every movement that rises up has some part in Truth. “
Islam ,New Ageism
How far would that go?
(check my comment re:Homnick)
this topic is discussed in Pachad Yitzchok
A massive problem of todays generation is :
there are so many [externally] very good boys and girls
How could any but the creme de la creme stand out?
There are sources both ways, actually
In many , it is far worse and lower
In some, it is better
historical development of halacha”
And what was Wissenschaft des judentums
And of course, the Conservative Movement
They’re arguably even more radical
Part of the problem with hassidus,which was a prime cause for opposition was it’s head in the clouds amorphous, nebulousness that could be used to support almost anything at all
( shabtai Tzvi,zionism , socialism,etc.)
The Satmar Rav profoundly understood that
every populist movement since,even irreligious ones could and often would conceivably claim a commonality and kindred spirit with the early chassidim
and the combustion needed to somehow be reigned in
It is with reason and sagacity
that the Satmar Rav wrote in a letter” ???? ???? ???????
You asked who ?
Mr Homnick’s[the one whose notes they rely upon] son’s name is yaakov
R’ Yaakov Hominick ,the one you spoke to, to probably is a cousin
Was he even a talmid?
” I find that very difficult to believe unless Rav Moshe was a chil”
Incorrect
Ari Zivotovsky brought this source material in a recent Jewish Action
Matan1,
possibly in the introduction
typo an another
When wedding celebrations started having separate seating as de rigueur
Rav Joseph Breuer was perturbed .He asked'”How else are young men and young ladies going to meet “
Separate seating today is proper and good ,but probably there should be a mixed smorgasbord or something for those in their 20s & ready for shidduchim in a another room
Halevai
pushing the sheva mitzvot for gentiles is redemption for the world
lilmod ulelamaid
Would you explain how you managed?
“aren’t the Ani maamins and Yigdal based on Ramabam’s 13 Ikarim? I would call that Hashkafa.”
Well said !
For basic bottom line Hashkafa you are certainly right
Should Have said that with more Emphasis
A person could spend much of their life
analyzing every word
and absorbing
lilmod ulelamaid,
Thank you. That’s who it is
lightbrite,
There used to be and probably still is a modern guy in LA who writes up hundreds of Jewish articles on Wikipedia as per his slant
Just who is writing up on Wikipedia?
zahavasdad,
Is your/the vocabulary so limited ?
” Torah Vodass and Yeshiva of Brooklyn are “
What year did they become ” Charedi”?
Were they nominated ?What is the process?
Recall Rav Joseph Ber Soloveitchik ‘s father
Rav Moshe was ordered by his father not to even bother reading the Moreh Nevuchim
“aren’t the Ani maamins and Yigdal based on Ramabam’s 13 Ikarim? I would call that Hashkafa.”
Well said !
For basic bottom line Hashkafa you are certainly right
And that is about it
Avi K.,
For one ,a Talmid from Bet Shemesh in his book on the parshiyot
His first name is Avishai
Also to a lesser degree, Old Mr.Homnick [the one who Lawrence Kaplan recently relied on his notes]
From today:
It is not yet clear if the two shootings are related.
The dead person was a member of the Haifa Bais Din staff, officials said.
Rabbi Illuz works on a bais din that deals with geirus.
All are asked to daven for Yechiel be Rochel.
All of you might be right, and that would be wonderful.. or a bit naive
Part of the demographic difference inherent between Israel
and Chu”l is because
In the hashgafa of Rav Kook and early religious zionism,Galut about the individual,Israel is about the Collective KlaL That is why in Israel we ought to have a centralized top down control, while in Chu”L the individual communities could afford to make individual decisions
“Before World War 2, the Gedolim forbid going to the US or Israel or any other Anglo country (Canada and Great Britain)”
Another tired ,mostly false cliched assertion
There were those who permitted many jews to immigrate.Those who could face the trials and succeed
R’ Yisroel Salanter, the Kelmer maggid, S. Zeitlen the frum Warsaw journalist, the Torah Temimah, R’ Elchonon Wasserman all foretold the coming catastrophe.
Where should the go? Moisville, Argentina?
where the Jews have long since assimilated?
The US?
Where Rav J.B. was so dispirited in the ’30s, that he wanted to go BACK to Europe?
lilmod ulelamaid and lightbrite,
$600,000,000 ?!
There were other Rabbonim who were threatened and retreated
K-cup,
In the Old Jewish Observer biographies
It also well known
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gavra_at_work,
Let’s avoid getting into the Nitty Gritty of Lakewood endorsements
and who is really in control
The Lakewood Voting patterns of every state and national electio of the past decade ought to say it all
And the fact that Rav Y Neumann has been very perturbed and refused to sign
Rav Kook was towards his end attempting to form a new Movement
frummer than Mizrachi
(as Avi K mentioned)
gavra_at_work,
QED
While on the subject,could anyone explain how come the Ferris wheel in Staten Island has so far cost $ 600 million to build
Where is the money going to?
Rav Kowalsky of Queens was very nearly killed more than once
Rav Reuvain Grozovsky was hit by a car against the light
He eventually succumbed
To this day it is still unclear who was behind it
“In fact, they are on record that you should vote for whomever will give Yeshivos the most money, regardless of the Gimmel Chamuros.”
Would you please tell us which Gadol ever said those words?
And I don’t mean Rebbe, askan, or some generic Broadside
My experience in elections across the NorthEast is otherwise
“What would you call someone who wears jeans, Sandals , shirt tucked out and a Kipa Sruga, but ptherwise the mitzvahs in a similar way to someone who wears a streimel, Becksha and shoes “
Observe how he davens
Second, find out who He [and/or all the more so She] ‘umbrellas’ with
While there are some who are naive,for most…
R.A K,
U.of M. campus kiruv
‘I find it ironic when I encounter more whispered suspicion about my kiruv efforts from orthodox students than from secular brethren …
Many from the Modern Orthodox community feel morally unjustifed imparting their beliefs to others..
Sadly,…many in the Modern Orthodox community,who in the finest HIRschian tradition could most credibly wage intellectual battle on
behalf of Torah ideology ,refrain from doing so.Instead they critique kiruv in a manner that belies either their own insecurities of belief,or their .. concern
that imparting these beliefs to others compromise their intellectual integrity or inappropriately influence others