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I didn’t know about the lubavitch thing but I think some people hold that you can’t and some say you could and some say that it came from no meat and fish and became a mixup but I think it has a lot to do with minhag really.
Wow! That is so heartwarming and sad at the same time.
With all the criticizing going on around here, we can truly say Mi K’Amcha Yisroel. So many amazing chessed organizations that truly help so many people.
If you agree that driving to shul is wrong but aren’t judging the person. That is fine. But if someone states that she/he “accepts” that someone chooses to break halacha and accepts any way someone chooses to serve H-m, that is wrong. there is only one way to serve H-m and that is by following the Torah (which really means a bunch of ways of serving Him but all those ways have to be Torah True.)
When you say, You dont know if that person driving to shul brings them closer to follow Torah Judaism. It doesn’t matter. You can’t do something against the Torah in order to do other Mitzvos. I still don’t say that you should judge these people. Maybe they deserve a much larger Gan Eden than someone who is supposedly very frum. who knows! But NOT because they drive on shabbos. It is despite it.
Wow. That is so sad. The writer sounds so pained.
doctors have to make people feel comfortable coming because many times people feel stupid and meanwhile it’s something serious. (I know someone who almost lost her baby ch”v because she waited. BH it was saved just in time.)
It’s an old story. when my grandmother’s family was travelling in Europe at the beginning of the war, the red cross was helping her mother. As soon as they saw her father with his beard and peyos, they suddenly dissappeared.
“To support men in kollel is very important. In EY there are many kollelim that administer bechinot and there are kollelim that do encourage men to find work but in areas related to Jewish life. Many kollelim specialize in particular areas so that the kollel yungerman can eventually get a job in shechita, safrus, hashgocho, becoming a dayan, etc. These kollelim are vital for the upkeep of Jewish life. I do not know if Lakewood has a system where they direct a young man’s talents and abilities in a direction which will benefit his future Jewish community.”
Isn’t it better, once someone is making money to make money to do something that will bring in money from outside our community? Otherwise it will be the same money circulating within our circles. I guess we need both.
000646
Why is it either or?
I find that I have a hard time budgeting when it comes to food because I am not good at prices. In other words. I am not always sure what foods are expensive and which are cheap. So I may decide to use food B instead of food A because food A is expensive and I don’t realize that food B is more expensive! Can someone explain which are the “cheap foods” and which are the expensive ones that should be used sparingly?
LOL! (literally)
Buy pizza,
Eat.
“don’t have internet – it is amazing that Walmart is business as usual. I feel so sorry for that young man’s family.”
I don’t think it is so amazing! I think it is horrible!
An innocent person dying such a horrible death and the store is “business as usual”??? That is no respect for the person. They should have been closed AT LEAST for the day or show some kind of sympathy for the family! not just re-open to make more money. It goes to show what’s acceptable these days.
jent1150
Problem is that the rest of the world considers them human and thinks they deserve rights and consideration as all humans do, but they don’t. The are animals. (But then again, there are some people in this corrupt world who think that dangerous animals deserve more rights than humans…)
It’s really sad and unimaginable how these people were alive and well and the next second killed by bloodthirsty people. It should be a Kappara and bring Mashiach already!
Oh and by the way, kol hakavod. it is very special of you.
Bais Yaakov maydel
You crack me up. You sound like a real “Bais Yaakov maydel”!!
LOL
SJSinNYC,
What makes you think that all those things mentioned are “acceptable” in the orthodox community? Did you ever hear of a Yetzer Hara? As far as I know, most people I know have got one. The problem is that most people know that and try to work on themselves, but if someone has an ideology against the Torah, what will make them work on themselves?
Yes, I speak Lashon Hara unfortunately, but I also learn the sefer shmiras halashon every night and am trying to work on myself but if someone drives on shabbos and thinks that they are doing a good thing because they are going to shul, they are wrong.
No one is saying that someone who drives on shabbos is a worse Jew, but they are definitely mis-guided. We may not judge them (who knows where any of us would be had we grown up in a different situation) but we cannot accept their views as being correct at all. If it is against the Torah it is unacceptable.
I don’t know anyone specifically, but it would be a shame to give it to a g’mach that will just give it out and split up the matching sets. Make sure it goes to someone with twin girls who will be able to enjoy matching the little girls who otherwise would not be able to afford it!
What I find the most horrible and cannot grasp is the fact that there are human beings who are so low as to kill innocent people for absolutely no reason! Are there actually people who are born with a natural thirst for blood?
Could it be that there is a problem with bishul akum with their coffee? (Please don’t attack, I’m just asking)
I think Joseph (is he the guy everyone is obsessed with for some odd reason?) is a fake. They probably have some usernames that they use to add flavor to the site.
Do you need any help in Israel hours (morning in Israel…?) I’m sick of my job… 🙁
Just read through my last post. It sounds like I think I know exactly what I am talking about. I am not actually sure if it is accurate. But I think it is the basic idea.
I’m also from oberlander background. It is not Chassidish but not litvish either. It is sort of a blend of hungarian and yekkish. My grandfather wears a litvish levush but davens with a havara similiar to chassidim but with a touch of yekkish.
I think it is virtually extinct at this point so many “became” chassidish. Look at Mt. Kisco. that is a real oberlander town and yet the people there pretty much became chassidish because nowadays you have to fit into a certain group. If s/o asks you if you are chassidish or litvish and you say oberland, they will have no clue what you’re talking about.
I don’t get it! They give you back more than the value of the item? Is that in cash or in store credit???
BTW, How can you keep it a secret?
It seems to be a pretty full time job. So what do you tell your family/friends what your occupation is? That you are in kollel???
Nobody,
What do you say!? I would NEVER have thought of that!!
yunchyveibal,
Boro Park? Lakewood?
But then again, who would expect a yunchyveibal to have internet or even know how to use a computer…
I don’t really get this whole interest in sports. You like sports? So play sports. why watch other people having fun????
I live in Yerushalayim. I don’t think that is very personal as I am under the impression that at least ten people live here…
TOHIGHSCHOOLGUY
If that is all you have to worry about than good for you. Keep on worrying about it for the next 3-4 years.
That was meant for Teenager actually 🙂 sorry.
…marital status?
000646,
I didn’t realize that I mentioned in my post that I look down on people who have different opinions… Also, I know in Pirkei Avos it says, Asei Lecha Rav, so obviously I do accept that there are different Rabbanim with different opinions. What I meant was simply that not all Rabbanim are valid at all. That does not mean that I don’t accept other standards.
SJSinNYC,
that would be more fun!
why don’t we all guess about eachother today and tomorrow we’ll all say who was right. 🙂
By the way. I didn’t have to guess about you, I KNEW.
P.s. Just curious, what do you think about (DELETED BY YW MODERATOR)?
Nobody,
I don’t really agree with you, because while you are right that it should be obvious that a step-parent must be respected, there are some laws that apply specifically and more stringently to a parent. Also, sefarim discuss a lot of things that you may consider theoretical.
SJSinNYC,
Although I criticize you in many threads (sorry), I have to say that I am very impressed. It seems to me that a step-parent is the stickiest kind of relationships and I see some of the finest people have a hard time with it. My mother grew up with a step-parent who she had a lot of issues with. Once she got married she became much closer with her and took care of her when she was very sick with cancer. After she was niftar, my grandfather remarried again and his current wife is respected and loved by all!
I think a big problem with step-parents is the step children think they can manage perfectly fine wihtout him/her and don’t see a need for their presence. What they don’t realize is that the parent needs a spouse and would be very unhappy alone.
A young boy once told my mother soon after his father re-married, “You know what’s hardest about having a step-parent? You need to say thank you for everything.”
Of course it’s nice to say thank you to a real parent but from a step-parent, as nice as they are it’s not natural. So to all of you who say OF COURSE you have to have respect… It’s true but realize that it’s not as easy as you think.
TOHIGHSCHOOLGUY
If that is all you have to worry about than good for you. Keep on worrying about it for the next 3-4 years.
SJSinNYC,
I did not mean that they look down on YOU. They may look down on your values/hashkofos which they have a perfect right to.
000646,
How do YOU know that Judaism is more right than other religions? I am not saying that anyone’s rabbi (SJSinNYC’s…) is WRONG. I am just saying, that not all Rabbis can be relied upon as any appikores can become a “Rabbi”.
jewishfeminist02
Your hashkofos are SKEWED. Judaism CANNOT be kept according to the way someone feels like. There are clear halachos that have to be kept. No one can convince themselves that they will get Gan Eden for being a “Jew at heart” and for supposedly “loving H-m”. That is just a good (bad) excuse for giving into their taavos.
I am not sure why YWN allowed your comment to be posted as it is so clearly against Torah values.
Is this becoming the new trend? asking personal questions about posters? Maybe we should each send in a resume…
bored@work
You missed my point. Of course the young girl should get up. My question was if the person she got up for should have gotten on to the bus to begin with. It’s just theoretical. I am not claiming it’s right or wrong, just curious what people think of it. If it’s a short distance bus and someone will have to stand for 10 minutes, big deal, but we’re talking an hour here.
jewishfeminist02
Were you one of those annoying girls on the bus last night to Bnei Brak laughing like a couple of hiyeenas?? JK!! 🙂
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I don’t know much about this but just a word of advice, don’t ever take a package from ANYONE without opening before hand. (Verify with them before that it is okay, of course) This may be awkward when it comes to someone you feel close to but there isn’t much of a choice as unfortunately we can’t trust anyone these days. (You can say an excuse that you just want to open it so that you can tell people that you do this with everyone even close family and you need to be honest…)
SJSinNYC,
It could be there is a very specific reason, but according to what I think (no basis, just making up) I would imagine that they consider it a man’s job. A woman sits in the back or in the passenger seat and the man drives. I guess it’s a way of having the woman being more passive then active. I don’t really have a very good explanation and as I said, I am very happy to be able to drive and don’t think there is something majorly wrong with it. I do respect those who have this minhag/chumra/meshugas, (I hope I included one of the right words so no one corrects me that it is a minhag not a chumra or vice versa, we gotta be very careful with the technicalities around here…:) as believe I am open-minded enough that I can accept other people’s belief’s even if I think it’s fine.
BTW, I recall being on a long distance bus a while back and people came on after it was full. It must have been an older woman or an expectant woman. There were girls sitting on the bus who stood up for them. Of course that was the correct thing to do but is it right that someone who got on the bus when it was empty should have to stand for an hour? Maybe a person who knows that they need a seat should wait for the next bus.
What do you think?
000646, SJSinNYC,
Have you ever heard of a mashal, or figurative language? I don’t think Joseph meant that driving on shabbos is comparable to wearing a slit.
I do think he meant that “my rav allows…” is not always an answer. There are many type of rabbanim, ultra orthodox, orthodox, modern orthodox, conservative, reform… are they all right? You will probably say yes, but I say NO. Many (most) of them are wrong, wrong, wrong!
Do you consider ANY and ALL forms of “Judaism” valid?
jewishfeminist02,
There is nothing more to be said if you have no problem with any rav saying anything. If you encounter a “Rabbi” who says that there is no G-d (CHAS VESHALOM) Would you have no problem with that? (Now don’t start explaining to me that driving on shabbos is not as bad as atheism…)
(Also what about the Tzidokim and karaim who did not believe in Torah ba’al peh. If you would all be living in those times, would you say, live and let live????)
I meant good LAUGH, not good LIFE.
…When you go to sleep thinking about your conversations on ywn and wondering why on earth you spend so much time arguing with people you don’t even know… and then doing the same thing again the next day.
WolfishMusings, Smart Cookie,
LOL literally! Thanks for the good life in an otherwise BORING day. 🙂
This is one subject that is really rediculous to argue about.
I personally have a drivers licence and plan on driving when I move back to the USA. My mother-in-law does not drive to this day and it really hinders her. She barely gets out. When my sisters-in-law (her daughters) were engaged, they would take her shopping instead of she taking them. She has to rely on her husband and children to get around which I think is a bit demeaning.
In any case, I can see why some people would not allow their wives, girls to drive. But I will still continue to drive. It is a matter of opinion and I don’t recall seeing signs up from anti-women-drivers against women driving so I don’t see what the point of arguing is! (My father personally does not allow us [girls and boys] to drive before we get engaged/married. But he is not against women driving. My mother drives.)
Just a cute vignette, my sister was driving in Williamsburg and a few little boys pointed at her car and called out, “Kick! Ah Mama Driv’d!” (“Look! A mother driving!)
SJSinNYC,
It irks you that people consider your standards to be horribly untziusdig while you consider it to be perfectly fine. Please realize that no one sees themselves. Someone who is used to a very tzniusdig way of dressing, ia “irked” wgeb seeubg people dressed in a much lower standard. Instead of being bothered that people do not agree with your way of doing things, maybe look up to them and think of some goals to eventually reach. You are very set in your ways and don’t seem to think that there is anything in your life that can be changed. I know that there are things I do/don’t do that some people would look down on but on the other hand, I know I am not perfect and am on this world to grow. I may never reach their level but at least I don’t look down on it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe you do realize that you have potential to grow but at least don’t look at other people’s criticism as “narrow-mindned”. Not accepting a higher standard is also “narrow-minded” in my opinion.
Please don’t take this as a personal attack. I am just expressing my opinion about what you said. I hope I didn’t come across as offensive.
eyesopen
While you brought up some very good points, I do not agree that it is NOT about inches etc. It is also about looking like a bas yisroel, but it is both, not one or the other.
shindy,
There is a very deep reason behind it that cannot be explained on this forum…JK. It was a mistake. :-[
When the vegetables in the fridge start to get soft but not yet rotten, dice it all up along with onions, some canned mushrooms etc and sautee in a pan. You can then freeze it away in containers and eat plain or put into a frying pan and pour beaten eggs over it and add some cheese. It’s very good and you didn’t have to throw out the expensive peppers and tomatoes!
SJSinNYC,
makes sense, and that is exactly what I meant. As far as my understanding goes there are some who would like not only the sum (6) to be “equal” but also the 5, 1 (can’t remember the word for it, it’s late at night for me.) So I am not saying that women are less necessary than men. The Torah puts a lot of value on the woman. I still believe that women and men are completely different and have different roles. There is nothing to talk about!