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Would organizing a coed situation cause people who would otherwise not be involved become involved?
obama REALLY thought there are fifty-seven states?!? Or is that just a joke???
I had a big problem with vista also. I don’t know any fancy lingo so this is what I did and it is eally fast now.
I was told that I had to increase my RAM. You should probably call a technition and he will tell you what to check. I think I had 512 MB and had to upgrade to 1 GB. I think it cost me about 90-$100. I’m not sure if this is what you need, but maybe.
vouchers would do well for everyone, because there would be more competition to get into schools. If you can chose a school, the schools will have to compete with eachother and in effect there will be higher and lower level elementary schools so everyone will have to improve.
Maybe schools have to start having less hours and homework. I would come home from school after 5 pm and have tons of homework which I never did because who has patience for homework after a whole long day in school?!? The point of tons of homework is to “keep kids off the streets” but according to Teenager that seems to not be working.
Even kids who are not off the derech need to have fun. I was always very frum even in my very, very frum school, I was probably from the frumies but you know what?? I never liked school. I did not enjoy to study Chumash, Navi, etc. I also did not respect many of my “amazing” teachers and still don’t. (I had plenty excuse to go off the derech I think, but Torah is Emes so no excuse helps…) In any case, I don’t think these kinds of stuff is only for off the derech kids it’s for everyone. But really the underlying issues have to be addressed. If someone goes off the derech there is usually a reason behind it, not just that they want to hang out.
This is NOT similar to seminary decisions. Throughout the ages, men/bochurim have been leaving home to learn whereas women always stayed home. Besides for hora’as sha’ah such as when Sara Shenirer had girls coming to her Bais Yaakov from all over Poland, there is no reason for girls to go away. They can set up seminaries all over the U.S. and only certain girls who live in small communities should travel. No need to spend the year away from home. If you want to go to E”Y, go for the summer. I don’t feel I missed out by staying at home for sem just a few years ago. My brothers went to E”Y for Yeshiva and we girls stayed home where we belong.
Teenager,
You are right that you cannot expect 0 to 100 in one day but the people who are trying turn them “on” should not be the ones introducing co-ed etc. A silly example would be a student who is really misbehaved, so the teacher wants her to go from doing 10 pranks a day to doing only 5 and from talking non-stop to only talking every 10 minutes. Will the teacher plan pranks with her that are a bit more toned down then what she’s been doing until now? or will the teacher not help her with her pranks but turn a blind eye up to a certain point?
What I mean to say is that people might want to turn a blind eye to certain things that teenagers do and rather focus on worse things. However, we are not allowed to Encourage co-ed etc. That is the wrong way to go about it!
I agree about the date and time. It’s easier to see if things changed because you don’t remember how long ago you checked and it said “…5 hours ago…” so hey, is that 7 hours now…? 😀
SJSinNYC,
there are a lot of divorces. That is true! But you just made a statement implying that the cause is not being familiar with eachother before marriage. Did you ever take a poll on chasidish, litvish, modern, secular, etc and see where there is more divorces? FYI, most chasidim barely see e/o before marriage and most litvish people don’t either get to know e/o for over a year! And guess what! There are much less divorces amongst us than in the secular world! So obviously we’re fine the way we do things.
I don’t believe that “meeting in the middle” is the correct way to go about it.
We don’t believe in the ends justifying the means so we cannot do something against our ideals in order for the end product of bringing teens closer to yiddishkeit.
Besides, why do we need to show these teens that the only way to have fun is to do it in a not-such-kosher way?
The opposite! Organize bowling, roller skating, etc.. but show that you can have fun in a strictly kosher enviornment!
Hey, maybe Obama had the same idea as Mariner. He was on a blog thinking of something to do and someone said, Hey, why not go into politics… LOL!
To add some fuel to the fire, I heard that Rabbi Avigdor Miller ZT”L was once asked by someone during one of his weekly shiurim why the Galus is extended. Rabbi Miller ZT”L answered, because we got rid of the reform, we got rid of the conservative, and now we are getting rid of the Modern Orthodox.
Can anyone verify/dispute this?
Really simple,
take some chicken cutlets, dip in to your favorite bbq sauce and grill/bbq.
It’s good. (It’s a little heavy…)
Or you can take ready made burgers that you fry at home but don’t overdo; place on the grill until hot. It’s pretty good.
you can do shish kabob; push cubes of meat onto skewers alternating with veggies such as peppers and onions. It’s yum!
Joseph,
LOL! Literally.
That is hysterical!
The cup holder one is the cutest
BTW, I think this topic should have things entered in the soonest because when you need help on a computer you need it NOW!
Thanks!
hiiamhere
obviously, anything to do with cooking/food!
Why limit it to one thing. It doesn’t have to be on this thread! 😀
I’m so excited!
Can people start on Rosh Hashana foods!
Entrees is the hardest for me! 🙁 Can never think of anything
(is it possible to have an entree idea sans strawberries!?!)
cbd, you are definitely right. But among certain crowds it is unfortunate but anyone above a certain caliber has to learn full time. Which means that those girls who otherwise would take a boy who would go to work now would not because the type of boy they are looking for would not go to work. Do you get it?
cbd
You’re husband is one of a kind. there are very few such people around nowadays. You should be proud that you have such a chashuve person as a husband. Realize that not everyone is capable of doing that. Some people in order for them to learn the way your husband does they require a free day with barely any other obligations. Be happy that your husband is so special and try not to judge others.
Blue Shirt,
Thanks. I assume an insult from you should be taken as a compliment. Thanks.
So what are you trying to bring out in that case?
(-IntellIgent)
As far as I know, most people involved in the reform movement can probably be referred to as Tinok Shenishba and maybe it is good that at least they have an awareness of Judaism, but the whole idea of reform is Kfira. Years ago (and probably many reform rabbis today) were very knowledgeable about Yiddishkeit but felt they could change Yiddishkeit and Torah due to their Taavos.
gavra_at_work, Yussel,
The point is not who H-m loves more. The point is that we should not be degrading all of Klall Yisroel because one (or more) person does bad. Yes, that is why there is a huge issure of Chillul H-m, but that does not mean WE (as Jews) should think that way!
Yoshi,
About my username, I misspelled it by mistake to be perfectly honest, and noticed very soon after.
About the untill, till, until, til business, I was going to mention it in my last post but forgot.
To my knowledge, the correct spelling is UNTIL and TILL. They are both words.
LeiderLeider…,
Can you start a post about speaking and writing properly?
Everyone can bring up different things that they notice everyone does wrong! It can be fun and educational! I am afraid to do it because maybe I will make a mistake and then everyone will laugh at me, not to mention my username…
justsomeguy,
!?!?!?
Reform is not religious! They CHANGED the Torah, so what does that make them???
You can add Modern Orthodoxy to the list. I will get a huge attack on this. But I can take the heat.
Yoshi,
I don’t think that would make a very big kiddush h-m if that’s what you would do. Ever heard the expression, change yourself and you can change the world…
Hatzlocha Rabba!
I think you should all give your brain a good washing! Can’t hurt! 🙂
Why does EVERYTHING have to turn into an argument??
Yussel,
Firstly, my name is IntellEgent, not IntellIgent, so based on that you can decide if I live up to my username (LOL!)
Also, I was just repeating what my grandfather says. No I don’t really agree with it. He lived through Aushwitz, lost his whole family, and has a crooked nose due to a beating from the Nazis, so I don’t think you could blame him for saying that the worst Yid is better than the best Goy. Don’t even TRY to change his mind.
Blue shirt,
I make YOU laugh???
LOL! 😀
I new yu wud pik up on the phakt tat “Fragment; consider revising.” is a fragment! (But isn’t that how Microsoft Word writes it? Also, come to think of it, it may be correct, because it is divided by a semi-colon. I’m not sure though if a semi-colon can only divide two full sentences or a fragment and a full sentence. You let me know!)
Also I think a lot of the misspellings and grammar mistakes are due to carelessness rather than lack of knowledge.
intellegent: They also hate us for having nicer summer homes than they have year round. What do you expect from a non-jew when we can’t control our own kinnah and feel the need to keep up with the Cohens? And yes, we as a commmunity may be paying for the actions of the rich in this case; not because of our religion, but because of the wealth of a few and stereotypes.
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gavra_at_work
On that I agree with you 100%. I heard a meaning of “Pnu Lachem Tzafona” does not only literally mean to go North, but to turn into hiding, meaning not to flaunt our wealth.
(I try hard not to litter!)
torahis1,
The topic would not be swept under the carpet if it would be presented in a respectable manner. Why be proud of being a Jew if being a Jew means being nasty, dirty, etc!
Being a Jew means being someone special! Some unfortunately do terrible things.
Now that that has been clarified, you can open a new forum to discuss the problem and everyone can share their views! I don’t think we should award yoshi with our opinion on the matter when it is discussed in such a disgusting way!
blue shirt,
So you just legitimized my intellIgence despite my misspelling of intellEgent. (I spell-checked AFTER I set up my username. Since then I’ve been waiting for a truly intellIgent person to say something and you are the first!)
“A name, yes, but not a word.”- Fragment; consider revising!
Interesting how people are bringing sources about whether it’s okay to go out for a few hours at a time, while people send their dauhters to Sem for a YEAR!
(The below is not necessarily a recipe I use, just stereotyping)
Woman’s cholent:
1 sm sauteed onion in 1 T. oil until light brown
1/2 lb. meat
1 cup cholent beans
1/2 cup barley
3 potatoes
1 clove garlic
1 T. paprika
1 tsp salt
1/4 tsp black pepper
enough water to cover ingredients
Allow to simmer for __ hrs
Bochur’s cholent:
2 onions sauteed until very dark brown (keep on low flame while at night seder)
When you come “home” from night seder add the following ingredients:
1/2 cup cholent beans (not more because EVERY jewish man has stomach issues)
1 cup barley
3 potatoes
some paprika
a lot of hot paprika
sprinkle salt all over until there is a layer of “snow”
bbq sauce, and/or ketchup squished in a generous squiggle
any kind of hot spices you can find
Add water and let cook over night and until after morning seder on friday (does that exist?)
Ah! It’s taka, mamish a mechaya!
jphone,
Thank you! While I’m sure not too many people will bother reading my looooong comment, hopefully yours they will and you really worded it well! It is horrible that frum yidden associate bad behavior to being FRUM. ich! If you believe in the Torah, how can you believe that people who learn it can be worse off than goyim!
My grandfather always says that the lowest yid is better than the best goy!
Wow!
That is an amazing decision.
Just giving you a friendly heads up. Don’t take some of the comments on this blog very seriously. They don’t necessarily represent Judaism/Yiddishkeit. Don’t be turned off from it!
Good luck!
Daniel_Breslauer
You would be right based on the topic/first post from azi. But you should read all the comments and realize that he does admit that he would like to hide his mother’s tichels.
This is probably a put on. Can’t imagine anyone contimplating such an idea would think “hay, why don’t I post it on YW and all the brilliant bloggers will tell me what they think!”. But even if it’s not true, once s/o brings up such a topic, you have to tell him what”s right. he might be giving s/o else some crazy ideas!
Daniel_Breslauer
I hate to break it to you but Israeli kids tend to have MUCH longer hair than Americans. (I am referring to the very frum bais yaakov girls in both countries.) The difference is that you will barely see anyone with their hair out of a pony unless it is really short.
I will answer the same way as I answered on the topic regarding “dirty nation”. The scenario you described is no doubt a huge chillul h-m and I am disgusted! But I am equally disgusted that a supposedly frum person would right such l”h on all of klall yisroel like that. “No doubt they hate us”- Yuck! That is NOT why they hate us! I never knew there were so many self-hating jews!
I really wish this is ended right now because I think it is horrible how people bash Klall Yisroel. (By the way for my job a have to make a lot of phone calls to people all over the U.S. I would say at least 98% are goyim and almost 100% are not frum yidden. The way these people talk, at least some of them, you would be horrified. So don’t say that it is especially frum people who are like that. We are H”m’s children and I don’t think it gladdens Him to hear bad about His children!)
This also brings to mind a story about R’ Dishon. He was once asked to speak about the “ME generation”. He did not comment but when he got up to speak he said, I was asked to speak about the ME generation- “‘ME’ K’AMCHA YISROEL”!
Only if you want to avoid this important topic.
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No, Not only if you want to avoid this important topic. We can do both. Why doesn’t someone start a new topic on what we are discussing here (bashing frum Jews) and we can continue on this topic discussing ideas on how to keep our and others’ properties clean.
blue shirt,
You ask that I “lay off” being the final decider on how people should dress. All though I am definitely not the “final decider”, there are those who could be the final deciders, NOT the person buying/wearing the garment as they are Nogeya BaDavar and cannot think straight. I will not specify this time what is appropriate and what is not but I would think of thinking of your tznius standards (I assume you are a male but wherever it applies) and not attack others based on their opinions to which they are rightfully entitled.
Also, I think you should rethink the way you “talk” to others.
Goan Atzum,
You’re right that they do not hate us for “nothing”. I was just trying to bring out a point that people (particularly jews) should not legitimize (is that a word?) the Goyim’s hate to us. Exactly as you say, they hate us because of their Jealousy of our Torah and moral life, not because of anything that we do.
cantoresq,
This topic was SUPPOSED to be about cleanliness but I think the way this Topic was worded by FrumCouple calls for a discussion of a much deeper and more important topic.
I know I will get attacked for saying this but it is true.
What about Shidduchim…?
In my (humble?) opinion after all is said and done, it is not always the best approach to do things “differently”. Being “normal” is also a good thing in life. Unless the norm is really bad you’re probably best sticking to that in most situations.
Blue shirt and mariner,
I don’t see why you (mariner) feel so threatened by what I posted. I was just stating my opinion on the matter. I was not DEFINING bright colors. I was just stating what I thought was obvious. I have no problem with people having lower levels of tznius as long as they know that there is a higher level out there. Everyone thinks their level is right but of course it is not. Believe me, I live in Yerushalayim and I wonder why Meah Shearim people think there is an issur against looking nice.
Also I definitely do NOT go around telling people how to dress! I have some very close family members who wear things that I do not consider tzniusdig and never tell them anything. I also wear things that people who have a higher level of tznius probably do not consider tzniusdig.
I’m sorry if I came out too strongly. I did not mean to antagonize anyone. I was just saying that I think tight clothing is really untzniusdig and people don’t always realize that. I should not have said I feel like throwing up. That was an exaggeration.
Everyone should not push their chumros on eachother. But it is really worth your while to really think about what you wear and make sure you are doing the right thing. I ask that you don’t attack me for stating my opinion just like you don’t want me to attack you for stating yours.
Blue shirt, You continue wearing your blue shirt, just make sure it is not a bright blue!
I think that while you may be right about the filth, I can’t stand when people attribute every problem to the fact that we are Jewish. It’s one thing for Goyim to think that, but please don’t be a SELF HATING JEW. If people are nasty it is not BECAUSE they are Jewish but DESPITE it. If people are Dirty it is not BECAUSE they are Jewish but DESPITE it. If people cheat on their taxes it is not BECAUSE they are Jewish but DESPITE it. You get the picture.
And don’t say no wonder they hate us. Throughout the generations we were persecuted and the Gedolim, Tanaim, Amoraim, and Geonim were not speared! (Think about the Churban, the ten Tanaim that were killed in horrible ways…) There is no REASON that the Goyim hate us. it is just a Halacha in the Torah and so it is nature. Of course we must do our best not to ignite the spark of hate in their hearts and to try to find favor in their eyes.