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The way I see it, either the OP is trolling or is thinking of attending darchei binah but is afraid for whatever reason to start yet another seminary thread. Therefore she decided to make up the scenario of having girls for Shabbos. Or possibly it’s a guy checking out a darchei binah girl for a shidduch. I definitely don’t think this is a serious post about having sem girls for Shabbos. Notice that the OP has not weighed in since posting this topic!
How about we turn this around even more: Fine one posek who permits blocking someone’s driveway!!
avreichamshlomo: I agree wholeheartedly. This site used to be a kosher place to get news. Lately (as in the last year or so) they have engaged in posting inflammatory anti-chareidi articles. Why is it muttar for anyone but those directly affected to hear constant negative stories about the peleg protesters and the like? This is pure lashon hara. It is not l’toeles for any of us to know – especially those in chu”l. Who is the rabbinic advisor for this site that mattirs these types of articles? I stopped coming to this site for many weeks because of this trend, and only recently checked back again. I am glad someone in the CR raised this point because this has been bothering me for a long time.
Just to add – don’t believe me? Check out the Better Business Bureau reviews of melaleuca
STAY AWAY FROM MELALEUCA! If the products are so good, why can’t you get them in regular stores or even just buy them online? You are forced to become a member to buy anything, and your cc is automatically charged for tens of dollars a month for products you couldn’t possible need that much of. How many vitamins does one household need? I was scrambling to come up with products to buy each month to meet the minimum requirement. And I didn’t even think that their cleaning products were that great. But even if I did, honestly, who even spends over $40 a month on cleaning products other than a school or shul. This is a pyramid scheme. STAY AWAY.
I think KJ Chusid is a troll and is trying to hijack this thread and should be ignored. No one who really believes you cannot daven in a shul with an Israeli flag has any business being on the internet anyhow!
another great cookbook is the heimish pesach chef. It has a lot of basic recipes that are not gebroks and use basic ingredients – good for those who don’t use a lot of processed things.
Also I would recommend at least a small hand mixer for making basic pesach cakes/cookies. My kids LOVE meringues (or nite-nite cookies). You can also find tons of recipes online and in Mishpacha and Ami.
you should check into levavi. Heard amazing things about it and it might fit with many of your criteria. But it is kind of small this year – only 20 girls.
DOn’t think ateres has any “access” but I don’t think you should base your choice on that. Most if not all of the BY hashkafa seminaries won’t have full access – at most just email and skype.
Why not leave your phone at someone’s apartment near sem so you can check it when you need it – but not be on every day which isn’t so healthy even for us adults!
It’s your year to grow and a lot of that happens by taking a break from all of the technology.
From what I know of Machon Raya, it sounds like it would be a VERY good fit for your sister. It is a Bais Yaakov sem, very academic, but “open-minded.” The girls are solid girls and someone I know who went there recently grew tremendously there. She would have felt stifled by bnos sarah or any of the other more yeshivish places. Machon Raya gave her the space to grow spiritually at her own pace. Excellent teachers and amazing hashkafa.
And no it is not at all zionist and feminist! Honestly if you don’t know first-hand about a place, don’t write what you “heard.” Total motzie shem ra on a wonderful solid school!
In terms of other seminaries that might be appropriate for your sis – maybe look into Rebbetzin Heller’s new seminary – Bnos Avigayil. It was touted as a very academic B”Y hashkafa place. You should check into it and see what “type” of girls she ended up taking – more like bnos sara or more like machon raya.
Amen! to you and your family as well!
Still thinking of you…still daven for your son every night. Hope you and your whole mishpacha are doing well. May HKB”H bring all of Klal Yisroel nechama during these y’mei aveilus and may all of Hashem’s children who have strayed return b’mheirah b’yameinu!
Darchei Binah; Maohr
COTW first of all you are not posting with sensitivity towards WOW by pointing out. “likely possibilities” like that. It would be far more helpful to offer chizuk or advice within the framework of where WOW lives and the realities she lives with.
Secondly, I must take issue with what you wrote about the alleged ” ugly truth about Yiddishkeit” I am sorry that the representatives of Yiddishkeit who you have met and suffered because of have hurt you. I must clarify to you, however, that you have chosen to tar all of Yiddishkeit with the same bush based on your experiences. Wouldn’t I be considered racist and small minded if I decided that all people of a certain race were thugs because I got mugged by a group of youths from a particular race? I would be cheating myself of interacting with many wonderful people based upon negative experience with a small subsection of that group.
Before you disparage all of yiddishkeit, meet others who are more accepting of you and certainly don’t add to WOW’s pain. If you were hurt, you know how it feels. Was the best support you received really in the form of bashing those that hurt you?
Here is another beautiful dvar torah of chizuk which I heard. There are three places where we refer to Hashem by the name “HaMakom:” When we are comforting mourners (HaMakom Yinacheim); when we say acheinu kol beis yisroel (Hamakom Yiracheim Aleyhem ViYotziaim m’tzara l’rvacha) and at the seder right before we mention the four sons (“Baruch Hamakom Baruch Hu…Kineged arba banim dibra Torah…”)
Why is Hashem known by that particular name in those three circumstances? The answer is that the name of “HaMakom” implies that Hashem fills up time and space. Therefore only He is “big” enough to contain our pain at our times of greatest suffering. When a person is in aveilus only HaMakom can contain their pain. When we talk about Jews suffering all over the world in acheinu, again only HaMakom can contain their pain. When we sit down to the seder and all of our children are there, including the second son who excludes himself from everything, parents feel tremendous pain. In that situation as well, only HaMakom can contain the pain of the parents who see the child who is struggling and is causing them so much tzaros.
May this Pesach be a time of cheirus for you and your family as well as your son from all that he is suffering. May you be zoche to see yeshuos during this time of salvation and geulah. And may all of klal yisroel be zoche to the geulah sheliema b’karov!!
Well I have to admit – for the first few lines you actually had me believing this… Very cute bur aren’t you a little late for Purim spoofing?
Can anyone comment on this?
You will be pleasantly surprised at the positive changes and growth (maturity-wise) you will see in your son as he learns to navigate not living at home. Believe me I know that it is hard to send someone away – I still cry when my son leaves for his dorm yeshiva and he has been there a year and a half already!! But my husband and I are extremely pleased with how good this experience has been for him in every way. Even though your son comes home and chills in his own way (staying out, sleeping a lot) it is a very positive step that he found a school, set up an interview and carried through with going to it. These are good things!! Halevy you should continue to see positive growth and maturity and (even better) religious growth as well. Much Hatzlacha as always!!
I think a dorm may work wonders for your older son (though he won’t change overnight, obviously) and I hope that he and you will find the right place. I mentioned ACE as a place to look into several months ago and there’s also KESHER which advertises on YWN as well as YESOD – an Ohr Somayach program. I know of an OTD boy in YESOD who is baruch Hashem doing very well there…
In terms of the situation with your other son, I was discussing the story with my husband who said that in E”Y you have to be very careful with a person like that man. Before going to the police you have to have the Rav on board or the community could end up turning against you and your family. Going to beis din is (hopefully) a very good idea and will (again hopefully) help your son to feel that something is being done.
To all of the naysayers – WOW has to deal with the reality of where she lives. Yes in the US we would not hesitate to report an assailant like that man to the cops, but in E”Y WOW has to play her cards right in order to garner community support against this man and not to let HIM make himself into a victim (which, by the way, is a more creative form of bullying ultimately).
WOW, may HKB”H continue to give you the strength to handle every twist and turn and may you have hatzlacha in this and every challenge.
Thinking of you from this side of the ocean…
Baruch Hashem! I am so happy that your simcha went well and that your son even participated happily.
Aries: Or he may look back at the pictures and say, “Wow look what I was wearing. Thank you Mom for giving me the space to do what I needed to do when I was 16. It helped me to become the person I am today.”
May the happy moments continue and may Hashem give you and all of klal Yisroel many more smachot!
Mazel Tov! May Hashem give you the strength to deal with every challenge and may you and your entire mishpacha enjoy the simcha. We are with you in spirit from the US.
Ana Mia,
Do you have any idea of the pain you are causing WOW? C’mon at least admit the truth about your post. What are you gaining by trying to deny who you meant? Offer chizuk or sound advice or even just say we are here for you in spirit. Don’t throw blame. Thank Hashem that you are not in this situatuation.
That would be because Yonah isn’t one of the meggilos. They are Eicha, Rus, Shir HaShirim, Koheles, and Esther and are all Kesuvim.
G’mar Tov
Ahh so the administration or a teacher confiscated something and now you want to bring sources as to why they should return it…
I think that if you knew coming into the school year that whichever electronic device was forbidden, you should have expected that they would follow thru. Even if it was the stupidest rule ever in your opinion, that’s the way it goes.
Maybe ask your parents to speak to the menahel?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Have people figured out a way to mask their profiles?
Oh and the wife of Ovadia is a different lady for whom Elisha did the miracle with multiplying the oil so she could pay her debts (from her and her late husband Ovadia sustaining 100 Neviyim in a cave when Achav and his wife were murdering Neviyim)
The reason for the confusion with the Isha Shunamis is that the two stories are told back to back…
Yonah was revived by eliyahu hanavi. He is called “Amitai” to hint to the fact that when Eliyahu revived Yonah, his mother (the Isha Tzarfatis, not Shunamis) said, ‘Now I know you are a man of Hashem who speaks Emes’ Since Eliyahu was considered Yonah’s spiritual father, Yonah is called Yonah Ben Amitai.
Regarding the Isha Shumamis whose son Elisha revived, one opinion says she is the sister of Avishag HaShumamis, though this is farfetched since Avishag lived hundreds of years earlier in the time of Dovid. As others have mentioned, there is a shita that the child’s was Chabakuk the navi. This is hinted by the promise Elisha gave her – ‘next year at this time you will be hugging ‘chobekes’ a son’
Dr Pepper
BRAINFREEZE:
Would you kindly tell us how many years of experience you have in diagnosing and treating bipolar in teenagers? Can you let us know how long you have worked with teens at risk? I too am suffering as I read each of your posts – at the pain you are causing WOW. Please, she has heard you loud and clear. DROP IT!
WOW,
I have been thinking about you and your son a lot. I wish that I had the right words to help or even to offer you chizuk, but I don’t feel qualified or experienced enough to do so. I will mention, however, two ideas that occurred to me:
You mention many times that your son refuses to see a therapist. I would like to suggest that you and your husband go instead. A qualified therapist should not only be able to serve as a source of chizuk to you, but should ideally be able to give you concrete suggestions for how to deal with your son. I know other parents who have done so when their child wouldn’t go to therapy and were abke to really help their child.
The second suggestion I have is to try using some of the communications methodologies of Adele Faber and Elaine Mazlish in “How to Talk so Kids will Listen and Listen so Kids Will Talk.” They really work well if you make this communication method fit with you and don’t sound “fake” with it. Also, they discuss giving your child genuine and specific compliments – not “wow your such an amazing kid. You’re awesome,” but things like “You’ve been keeping your room so organized and putting all of your laundry in the hamper…” Any of these types of compliments you can give your son will have a hashpaah on him and on his self image which needs to be rebuilt with genuine and true compliments.
As a child, whenever my mother said things like “Wow youre such an amazing piano player” (I wasn’t that great – ok maybe, not great) I wouldn’t buy it. Even when a teacher told me “You’re an express train headed to becoming a true bas yisroel,” all I could think of was every wrong thing I was doing that contradicted that compliment.
I suspect that like Aries has noted your son is really felling down on himself, and the more he does things he knows contradict the TOrah lifestyle, the worse he feels. Keep the love flowing – it’s definitely making an impact, and I truly think (and hope and pray) that your son will come back – perhaps stronger than before.
You and your family are in my heart and prayers. Keep strong!
Seems to be down again. Is this happening to anyone else?
Most of the folks in Williamsburg red the Virginia gazette.
Oh hang on, you meant Brooklyn, sorry;)
If your son is even interested in looking at alternate, low-pressure yeshivas, that is a VERY good thing. Go with it and show him you respect his choices.
Don’t worry about “the types of kids who go there.” your son is already one of those types or will be soon enough. Give him the environment he needs to thrive.
I would have him dorm, however. It will take a lot of the daily pressure off of you. Is there an option like the second school you mentioned that offers dorming?
sorry please correct the above the actual URL is Ace Israel Dot Org not Dot Com
Thanks!!
The URL is Ace Israel Dot Com (I tried posting it as a regular web address but it wasn’t let through for some reason.) They also have a few nice you tube videos.
Much Hatlacha!!
I don’t know if this school is shayach but I just saw an article about ACE – a high school for Anglo boys in E”Y which does wilderness programs, GED, and a lot of hashkafa. Here is the contact information:
Rechov Rakefet 51
Moshav Tarum
99730, Israel
Phone contact info:
52-8921548
The Olympic fanfare is nice and sounds really regal. Try googling “John Williams – Olympic Fanfare and Theme The Original 1984 Recording.wmv”
To “want moshiach”
Yrs ago I spoke to a student about her attitude in a similar venue and felt terribly guilty about it. I have often thought of contacting the student to ask her for mechilla. This was in a very MO school. If this was you, please accept my apologies. I am sorry if I contributed to your feeling so uncomfortable. And for the record, I didn’t hate you.
If the teacher was not me, I am sorry you went thru that. You should know though, that if the teacher is a Baal Aliya she too probably realized afterwords that she shouldn’t have made you feel so awkward and felt badly.
Can someone summarize what was said? I read a blog summary that claims R Wacsman assured the internet and said this was binding on all of Klal Yisroel… Is this true?
Ooooooh Heshy and Manny are tearing down the Shul? Can I help them?
No no Faigaleh, not the Shul the city.
Ooooooooooooh Heshy and Manny are tearing down the city, can I help them.
No no Faigaleh it’s people from the city who are coming in four weeks to – Hyman children do you realize what’s happening at Anshei Kartuffel in four weeks?!
COUSIN LEMEL’S BAR MITZVAH!!!!!!!!
I am totally not getting something. Why are classmates forbidden from attending a boy’s bar mitzvah???
Other references:
Casper the friendly ghost music when the “p p p pages keep turning all all all by t t t themselves”
Also there is some sort of horror movie music when Haman and his son are casting lots.
Also, bigsan and seresh are supposed to be Abbott and Costello (or perhaps Laurel and Hardy?)
I went to Michlalah more than 20 yrs ago so I can’t respond intelligently. I will tell you that you should ask a trusted teacher or Rov rather than an anonymous group in the coffee room.
One thing I can tell you from my own experience is that your Israel experience is what you make of it. If you are going to E”Y wanting to grow, you will probably do that in either of these two schools.
Hatzlacha to you, and don’t forget to daven for clarity in this matter. I definitely feel that Hashem guided me to the right seminary for my growth at that time.
All the best
Will someone please explain the meaning of “Fang Un Fun Unfang”
yeshivas ohr yisroel in atlanta fits the derech you are looking for – chilled out yeshivish but certainly not in tri-state area
What video???
Just tell them you’re a ____ year old Archie Bunker (you fill in the appropriate age) If you don’t know who Archie Bunker is, you clearly were born within the last 25 years!