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There is a quantitative difference between Loshon Kodesh, which is utilized for prayer and writing Torah based Seforim, and Ivrit, which is a modern-day concoction used for everyday street speech.
Loshon Kodesh was never a street language.
icedMemberYiddish is definitely a lot more important, than modern-day Ivrit, for a religious Jew.
icedMemberNo. (But they should be ready to accept his ruling even if they don’t like it.)
icedMemberI qualified my “pronouncement” to functions that have a risk of requiring Chillul Shabbos. That would probably constitute the vast majority of Armed Forces enlistments. Likely a chaplain is one of the exceptions.
icedMemberThe Army can reassign you to wherever they need you, if necessary, even if it isn’t what you enlisted for. Also, most functions the enlistee knows off the bat that Chillul Shabbos (and a host of other aveiros) is a near certainty.
icedMemberSo surely it is forbidden to voluntarily enlist where later being forced to be Mechallel Shabbos is a near certainty.
icedMemberMay I call you Moishy?
icedMemberAnyone can become a baal teshuva. There is always hope for a better tommorow.
icedMember147: That’s because Artscroll translates Shas into whatever language some rich benefactor generously pays them too. Nevertheless, you can rest assured much much more frum Torah-learning Yidden understand Yiddish than French, Ivrit, Russian.
Curiosity: Most frum people who understand Ivrit, speak another language too (Yiddish, English, etc.)
icedMemberMa’aseh Rav Hashalem. (Page 276.) He says that if it would help if he would stop learning Torah (!!) and davening (!!) so he could go from city to city to get polygamy and birchas kohanim reinstated, he would do so. That’s how strongly he felt about the benefits of it.
icedMemberNo, Curiosity. Loshon Kodesh is NOT Modern Hebrew. And there are hundreds of thousands of frum Yiddish speaking Yidden in the U.S., Eretz Yisroel and Europe. And that is just of who speak Yiddish as a first language. There are many many more who speak Yiddish as a second language.
icedMemberDuring his lifetime, the Gaon tried to implement both the restoration of daily Birchas Kohanim (which was succesfully implemented by his talmidim in Ertez Yisroel after his petira) and the restoration of polygamy. I’ll try to find the Sefer.
icedMemberAnd how do housing prices (buying or renting) compare to other Jewish towns?
icedMemberPersonally, I think that if some people had two wives they’d be more tolerant of both than they’d be with only one. Kind of like when someone is an only child his parents are often demanding of perfection; whereas with multiple children parents are often more tolerant of each child.
Also, I think Hashem allowed men to have more than one wife for a reason. They often need it.
icedMemberDoson and Aviram, the Egel, Korach, Samaritans, Saduccees, Zealots, Karaaites, Enlightenment, Reform, Conservative, Bloggers.
I’m sure I’m leaving many more out, even obvious and well known ones.
icedMemberHaLeiVi: If he hated the first he could (and should) of divorced her. Since he didn’t, clearly he loves both (or all three, etc.)
icedMemberOther than geography, what amenities and considerations does Passaic / Clifton offer a frum family, that might entice them to consider moving there?
icedMemberSend your children to a Yiddish Yeshiva and before you know it you’ll be picking it up as well.
icedMemberThe Vilna Gaon said two of his biggest goals was to restore daily Birkas Kohanim and to restore polygamy. The Gaon said doing so would bring the geula closer.
icedMemberThe whole “episode” was a humongeous chillul Hashem.
That Howard Stern, one of the most vile and filthly individuals on the airwaves, had praise for him, makes the C”H all the more greater.
icedMemberMitt Romney spoke powerfully and the best, hands down.
Yes, this is an English speaking country. Let’s keep it that way. No one spoke Yiddish at any political convention.
icedMemberTalmud Torah Kneged Kulum. Even though a woman shoudn’t be working, if it is to enable full time Limud Torah by her husband it is more than worth it.
icedMemberSimcha: Because of the zchus of Limud Torah, which is greater than everything else.
icedMemberRav Shteinman is one million percent correct. It’s always best for the husband to work and the wife to stay home. In extenuating circumstances (like dire financial straits) obviously she can take a job. Kollel, too, is a worthy tradeoff for her to work so he can learn.
icedMemberThe Satmar Rebbe ztvk’l zy’a broke the taboo and fear among American Jews of walking, publicly, in the streets of America dressed as a Jew.
Not only did he break the taboo, he made them proud to publicly fully dress as a Yid.
icedMemberIt’s more a result of Americans respect for law and order; and even a Klansman is almost always assured and afraid that any violence will lead to harsh legal penalties being imposed upon himself. (This is demonstrable by the fact that the Klan’s #1 enemy are blacks. And there are plenty of them in the South. Yet race-based physical violence against them is also very rare. [In the few cases it does happen, it always becomes a major news story.]) Unlike in Europe, as described above by a resident there, where not only isn’t such violence rare, but it is done publicly in major European cities.
Which is all a testament in favor of America.
icedMemberMy point simply was clearly Jewish identifiable articles of clothing.
Throughout history, from our bondage in Egypt up to the present, Jews have dressed identifiably different than the gentiles in whose midst we unfortunately live.
icedMemberIf someone’s life is G-d forbid threatened, the best course of action (if available) is to run away as fast as possible. Fighting will put ones own life at risk; a risk best avoided.
icedMemberExactly.
I suggest that everyone watch the full Asifa. It is well worth your time. (Of course you will need to understand Yiddish for 50% of the speeches. But if you are a non-Yiddish speaker, you will need someone who understands Yiddish to tell you what is being said for half the speeches.)
icedMemberIt’s a mix of Yeshivish and Chasidish.
icedMemberEverything can be. But no one really knows what will happen.
icedMemberAmerica: What you are describing is very different than what occured in East Flatbush and Brownsville. You are basicly saying there is no room to grow in Flatbush, so the young couples are moving out. Nevertheless, Flatbush is not becoming less of a frum neighborhood. The current residents are staying put, and whenever a current resident does move, it is quickly filled by another frum family. The homes, when sold by a frum family, is being sold to another frum family. And Marine Park, which for all intents and purposes is an extension of frum Flatbush, is indeed growing by leaps and bounds with young couples. (Albeit a somewhat more modern crowd than Flatbush proper.)
Same with Boro Park and Williamsburg. There may, physically, be no room for growth. But the frum neighborhoods aren’t contracting (shrinking). And in both those neighborhoods, especially Williamsburg, there is in fact growth among the crowd of younger couples.
icedMemberThe message the Gedolei Yisroel gave at the Asifa was very clear.
1. The Internet is dangerous.
2. The Internet is a necessary utility for many — but not all — people.
3. For those who don’t have a critical need for it, should have no internet.
4. For those who do have a critical need for it, intall filters.
Filters were specifically mentioned by a majority of the speakers. Not to mention the workshops setup by Ichud Hakehillos to help the community install filters.
icedMemberI agree, Yehuda. (Based upon your OP.) But my point is that the justice system won’t do anymore, since any further punishment by justice would be illegal under the double jeapordy doctrine.
icedMemberIt is a bigger Kiddush Hashem to be nice and quiet and run away from fighting with goyim rather than to fight back.
icedMemberAnd the same with the Asifa. It was a thundering success.
icedMemberIt is extremely rare for a Klansman to physically assault a Jew, these days, even in the Deep South.
icedMemberThe justice system has already put this fellow through the system and is done. So there can be no further legal consequences unless he commits a new crime.
icedMemberPeople can still read them before buying. And as far as seeing just the front page, the cover is designed (unfortunately) to be seen by everyone in order to sell based on salacious cover stories.
So it seems it was in fact covered for modesty reasons.
icedMemberIs there good reason to hope that what happened to East Flatbush, East NY, Brownsville, the Bronx, etc. won’t reoccur in Flatbush, Boro Park, Williamsburg, etc.?
icedMemberThe very reason, in large part, why things are different (insofar as dressing Jewish in public) in America today, is thanks in no small part to the Satmar Rebbe ztvk’l zy’a.
icedMemberThe very reason, in large part, why things are different (insofar as dressing Jewish in public) in America today, is thanks in no small part to the Satmar Rebbe ztvk’l zy’a.
icedMemberWIY: There is no bigger zchus in the world than to be killed al kiddush Hashem. In fact, many tzadikim davened to be zoche to have the zchus to die as such.
icedMemberAre East Flatbush and East New York two different former Jewish neighborhoods?
icedMemberEven immediatedly after WWII, Yidden even in New York did NOT dress outwardly overtly Jewish. The Rebbe often wore a Shtreimel on days other than Shabbos. Believe me, as soon as he stepped off the boat, World Jewry knew his exact address. And while, surely, there were tzadikim who kept Shabbos in America long before, even they dared not walk the streets of America (including NY) with a yarmulka publicly visible, a Jewish hat, tzitzis out, etc.
icedMemberA reason Jews in America today can go out in the street fully dressed like a Jew, including in full Chasidic regalia, is in no small part thanks to the Satmar Rebbe ztvk’l zy’a. The Satmar Rebbe, as soon as he got off the boat and was living in Williamsburg put his Shtreimel on his and walked to Shul. His gabbai whispered to him if he could hold his Shtreimel until they got to Shul — the Yidden in America were afraid of walking outside in a yarmulka! No one ever saw a Shtreimel on the streets! The Rebbe just sweetly smiled and said lomer gein.
And with the Shtreimel on his head he went unto the streets of America. At first it was a sight to behold. But in short order, others started losing their fear (or embarasement) and the Jewish clothing became a common sight.
Today, Baruch Hashem, no one bats an eyelash at the common sight of Jews dressed as Jews on the streets of America.
icedMemberThat’s right MorahR. If you go mixed swimming you may as well eat chazir. Makes perfect sense.
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