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Morals are solely defined by the Torah. Non-Jewish “morals” have no role to play in a Jews life.
And if a legal monetary benefit assists in Limud HaTorah, there can be nothing more moral than engaging in that.
Natfush: That point I made, was that I rejected any arguments that Jews should refrain from accepting government benefits they are legally and fully entitled to receive under the law.
I make no claim that Jews should receive additional benefits unavailable to others.
Which argument are you speaking of?
Tehilim and Davening is the only thing you can and should do.
And send Tzedaka to the Yidden in Eretz Yisroel.
My point was demonstrating the hypocricy of your demanding that parents lovingly accept the choice of their child, G-d forbid, going otd.
You wouldn’t suggest a parent lovingly accept their child’s choice to become an alcholoic or druggie.
It’s very expensive and requires funding that simply doesn’t exist. I’m not sure of a good answer.
I guess it is possible that some parents are capable of being happy for their child irregardless that the “choice” he or she made is to be an alcoholic and druggie.
Palestinian.
crisis: I also find it tellingly ironic that you found fault with calling ganovim a government which taxes people to death — especially Jews who on average have more income AND who pay through their bloody noses for a public education they don’t utilize while they are denied funding for their private education even though they are taxed for education — while at the same time you saw no need to find fault or voice any protest against “dolphina” above calling Jews gazlonim who QUALIFY for programs and using them. (Since he says it raises his taxes — which is at best a nebulous claim, as the Federal government hasn’t raised taxes since 1998 despite entitlement programs costs having gone through the roof since that time — and taxes are not raised when another person joins a program.)
Calling a Jew a ganov because he receives assistance he is fully and legally 100% truthfully eligible for is okay with you but calling a government who redistributes wealth a ganov is not okay? Especially considering the government is taking a lot more taxes from Jews than it is benefiting them in entitlement program distribution?
Why would you rather the government fund minorities — who are on these programs on a much much much higher rate than Jews — but deny the same benefits to Jews?
crisis: You will be the first they take.
As the Germans — home of the Reform assimilaters who did everything imaginable to not only do no different than the goyim, but to do everything the goyim believed correct — is where the holocaust began.
When you become like them they hate you more than when you make sure and obvious that you are different than them.
acookiejar: Following G-d’s orders, as described in the Torah, is mandatory even it is not “pleasurable”. It is mandatory even if it is “painful”.
It is illegal to secede. A State cannot secede. This was proven with the Civil War when Southern states attempted to secede and the Federal government refused to accept it. (And the Union won the issue.)
dolphina: Are you blind? I specifically wrote that any Jew who is QUALIFIED for any government program should take full advantage and apply for every penny he is QUALIFIED for. That not only is not gezel but it is a Mitzvah Rabba to take every penny into Jewish hands from the goyishe ganovim in the government.
And I hope you don’t like that. If your taxes go up, that’s between you and the IRS. I am going now to look for some more government programs I can apply for and qualify from taxpayers. And please never be moichel since I neither need nor wish for your forgiveness. If you have a problem with that, go speak to your local Congressman.
Every Jew who is eligible for government money or free or reduced-cost programs should take full advantage of it and apply and recive every penny eligible.
Jews pay more taxes per capita than the rest of society, on average, and we should not be shy about accepting money and benefits that Jewish taxes are paying for.
PuhLease: Clearly, when the term “OTD” is used, it is referring to leaving the derech of Hashem and his Torah. Not merely or necessarily the derech of ones parents. That being said, it certainly can be said that someone who was frum and knows of the Torah will pay a very heavy price for leaving the derech of the Torah and becoming a Mechallel Shabbos and treif-eater.
The frames must be totally black for the thick frames to be stylish.
Ice cold and callous.
You go otd and don’t give a dang that you are killing your parents?
Wow.
Overworked mods need breaks.
Everyone in favor of giving the mods off every day after 6:00 PM EST until morning, say “aye”.
What makes you think they changed their mission and programming?
It is moral, ethical, completely legal and very good chinuch.
Please cite where in Shulchan Aruch that if a contract is agreed upon due to little other choice, that invalidates the contract. There is no such thing.
JARJ: Tiferes Bais Yisroel used to be called Eternal Jewish Family (EJF). They simply changed their name. They proseltize to goyim. Rav Moshe Shternbuch shlit”a, Raavad of the Badatz, wrote a letter denouncing it.
Syag’s sarcasm is correct. People should just marry for love and forget about background, family and/or yichus. Who cares? You meet a girl in the pizza shop, fall in love (or infatuated) and simply get married. Why burden yourself or her checking her out?
Rav Nochum Eisenstein is Rav Eliyashev’s zt’l’s right-hand man.
Tiferes Bais Yisroel engages in conversion practices that have been denounced by the Badatz in Yerushalayim.
That condition is NOT illegal being in a contract.
New York City Public Schools confiscate students cell phones as a matter of official policy. Perhaps the complainers here should march to Gracie Mansion in protest.
Oh, the goyim too recognize the wisdom of this policy.
HaLeiVi: So we hope he gets a yeshua and a shidduch. But is one conditional on the other? Suppose he doesn’t get a yeshua. Should we then hope he never gets married so that there is no suffering spouse?
Other than the Palestinian Jews.
HaLeiVi: My question is whether you believe that, ideally, every girl who considers dating him should be forewarned. Or to put it another way, do you believe he should never get married?
There is an implicit contractual agreement between the parties that in return for the school accepting the student it has certain rights. This is one of them.
Also, see this pretty recent discussion of this issue:
HaLeiVi: Should someone call up every girl this guy goes out with to make sure he can never get married?
Why this girl yes and others not?
Start your own yeshivos and mosdos.
Do not breath a word without first consulting a posek and following his exact ruling.
RH: The Shulchan Aruch states, l’halacha, to -quote- “stay far far away from women.”
ZK: Where are the sources on this issue?
B: If a murderer kills someone with witnesses but no warning, beis din lets him go scot free (assuming the victim has no family to avenge his death, as they are entitled)? If beis din has remedies for a killer, then beis din can also deal with an adulterer who didn’t get the proper warning.
The only mayor this city has is an odd one.
I feel that it is very worth joining Hatzalah just for all the parking priviliges (parking in NYC is a nightmare without the parking privilige placard) and driving privileges (gridlock is a big pain). Of course the main thing is the mitzvah.
Pharoh has bechira until later on when Hashem took ot away. But normally Kings have bechira.
They should negotiate a compromise where they have one country for all people of all religions, perhaps called Israstine, that is a democracy where every Jew and gentile each get one vote.
ZeesKite: What do the witnesses have to see to be able to assume they did the maisa that is sufficient for beis din to convict them on a capital offense?
BaalSechel: If the witnesses warned them and then saw them do it, if either the man or woman didn’t verbally respond to the warning saying “I don’t care”, they both get off with no punishment from beis din?
And how much time maximum can elapse between the warning and the act, for it to be effective to convict as a capital crime?
When you buy food to eat-in at a pizza parlor or wherever, part of the mark-up in the price for the food you pay is for the service. Which, by the way, is why most eat-in food establishments, including those without waiters, have hired cleaning help to clear off the tables.
So while it is certainly very nice for the customer to clean up after himself, it is certainly not expected that he do so considering that he paid for the service from the restaurant.
One (of many) examples is that for a boy to be considered good (for shidduchim, etc.) he is expected to rise early for minyan, spend a long day in Yeshiva, learn Torah well and be kind. A girl doesn’t share the same daily, excruciating and demanding, schedule.
No, the mitzvah is the same to wear any hat Bnei Torah wear, regardless of the price.
It’s not Uncle Moishy’s fault you didn’t hear of him.
One should not have a goy as a friend ever, any time of the year.
Yichus: Yes, in all cases. The Jew is intrinsically better than the comparitive sheigetz. Even if the Jew didn’t recognize and utilize his intrinsic goodness.
Zsd: Its not just a consent form. The required form states that MBP can kill the baby.
Over 90% of all adults have herpes complex.
So what it is “only her child”? You want to allow mothers to cause brain damage or kill “only her child”?
Oh. The risk is very small you say? It is also very small by MBP. Or driving. (Actually the risk of killing someone or getting killed driving is greater than doing MBP or nursing.)
So we all take small calculated risks every day, don’t we. If we can take these risks for nursing and driving, we can take it for following our religion. Religious practice (i.e. doing G-d’s will) is at least as well worth the very small risk as driving or nursing.
Surely those against MBP would similarly (to say the least) be opposed to the Akeidas Yitzchok. How dare a father plan on killing his child! Tendler would’ve likely called the cops to arrest Avraham Avinu and charge him with attempted murder.
TCG: It is a halachic obligation to eat meat on Yom Tov. See the discussion earlier for the maare mekomos. Being a vegetarian entails being a baal aveira.
Would you refuse to eat from the Korbon Pesach as well? We all know where that leads.