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I don’t know if there is a source. Simple fact was that in Europe, the chassan and kallah were generally supported by the kallahs family so they lived either in the same house or town with her parents. This is also the reason why women generally did not marry someone whose name was the same as their father’s and why the first child is generally named for someone in the kallah’s family.
July 21, 2017 6:37 am at 6:37 am in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1322267iacisrmmaParticipantry23: “predictive spelling” changed the word. It was supposed to be “chinuch system”
iacisrmmaParticipantI do not know what the Rebbe’s personal shita was. I don’t agree that OK is a “chabad” hechsher even if Rabbi Levy was a member of chabad.
July 20, 2017 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1322172iacisrmmaParticipantThefakemaven: I don’t think our chimichanga system needs revamping. I think that adults have to start thinking logically and not turn normal activities into the category of hefkeirus. There is nothing wrong with a bachurim having a beer every now and then.
As I stated previously, I would be a hypocrite if I did not let my daughters date someone who occasionally drank a beer. I too was a bachur at one time and I can recall my friends drinking a beer even though we weren’t 18 yet (when 18 was the legal age). Nobody then thought it was hefkeirus. I don’t think we should take that approach now.
iacisrmmaParticipantsadigrarebbe: Many items made by large companies have enough of a base besides kosher consumers that they do not have to use CY products, which generally are more costly. Kosher “establishments” are basically only relying on yidden as their base; to gain the largest number of customers one would need to be CY only.
July 20, 2017 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1322014iacisrmmaParticipantTheFakeMaven: You have never seen a gadol drink a beer at a sholom zachor?
What do you consider “chilling”? I consider my son when he is home, sitting talking to his parents or siblings and drinking a beer to be “chilling” and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
July 20, 2017 11:43 am at 11:43 am in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1321908iacisrmmaParticipantI am not going ti deny that our community has an issue with bachurim drinking too much and others who go OTD. However, that does not mean we have to keep bachurim totally sheltered and not allowed to experience anything. Maybe we should take a lesson from R’ Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg TZATZAL who was known to be a very good baseball pitcher in his younger days. He would motivate his students by telling them “if Lefty Scheinberg can do it, so can you”.
When I was in Mesivta in the late ’70s, our Menahel asked myself and another bochur to go buy 5 big bottles of beer for the Chanukah mesiba.
TheFakeMaven: I totally disagree with your comment “it does not change the fact that the ‘chilli with a beer’ is a hefkerediga concept and is not OK for bochorim to do it.”. There is nothing wrong with a bochur having some “relaxation time” and to have a beer while eating at a BBQ.
iacisrmmaParticipantCTL: I thought Archway was certified by the OU.
iacisrmmaParticipantI thought it was the bottoms of the carrots that have the green grass.
iacisrmmaParticipantr4nd0m3x: Your quote from the book only makes sense if you tell why he made that comment. R’ Shraga Feivel Mendolowitz was asked to check out the “new” Empire plant in Pennsylvania. Out of courtesy, Rabbi Levovitz handed the “chalaf” to R’ Shraga for his inspection. He then asked Rabbi Levovitz to shecht 20 chickens and after the shechita reinspected the “chalaf”. He then asked that Rabbi Levovitz shecht 50 chickens. He complimented Rabbi Levovitz on how he handled the “chalaf”. R’ Shraga’s son asked if the shochet can be trusted to which he replied “I would fell better if he had a beard” to which Rabbi Levovitz replied “My father taught me that one schechts with one’s chalaf, not with one’s beard.” R’ Shraga laughed and told his son yes.
Paraphrased from the book “Lieutenant Birnbaum”
GadolH: You wrote: “you can never go wrong with a top of the line chassideshe hashgacha (the “gold standard of kashrus”)”
Many would disagree with this comment. Chassideshe hashgachos may not be the ‘gold standard’ as you claim.
July 19, 2017 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm in reply to: Out of the box ideas to solve the shidduch crisis 🚫🥊👰🤵 #1320974iacisrmmaParticipantmentsch1: ” You wrote: “I also think that the if the olam insisted on joint/equal support, ”
Maybe we should go back to 20 or 30 years ago where in the yiddesheh velt people generally married without getting ANY support from their families.
One of the root problems is the ‘support” system. I am not in the position to pay any support. Does that mean that my children don’t deserve a shidduch because I can’t pay support?
July 19, 2017 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm in reply to: SHOCKING Letter Published In Lakewood Newspaper ⚡📰 #1320925iacisrmmaParticipantGadolH: You wrote: “No one is denigrating our chachamim . What I’m saying is obvious. their limud torah may provide some superficial knowledge about bodily functions and healing but they cannot be expert enough to advise on highly complex medical issues the knowledge of which comes from years of secular study and clinical/diagnostic experience”
Just by calling their limud hatorah as “superficial knowledge” is denigrating talmidei chachamim. I have never heard Rabbi Zafrani’s comment as related by AviK. I have been taught otherwise by my rabbeim.
You have every right to no talk to Daas Torah on a medical subject. Don’t put down those who still have “emunah peshutis” in them.
July 19, 2017 11:38 am at 11:38 am in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1320876iacisrmmaParticipantScottsdale21: Again, it depends. Where are they in Yeshiva and what are there ages? Have you asked them if they drink in Yeshiva? Do they have a beer once in awhile or are you concerned about serious drinking? I have 7 sons, 5 of whom are now 21 or older. In my own house, I never denied them beer or even 1 or 2 shots of schnapps at the shabbos table even when they were under 21.
July 19, 2017 9:55 am at 9:55 am in reply to: Should we stop bochurim from chilling and drinking beer at a bbqs.🍻🍖 #1320728iacisrmmaParticipantAre we talking about “bachurim” over 21 or under 21? and are we talking about having one beer? If over 21, then follow your husbands approach. If under 21 and in NY, make sure you or your husband serves it to him and limit it to 1.
I would be a hypocrite if I turned down a shidduch for my daughters because a bachur occasionally drinks a beer.
July 18, 2017 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm in reply to: SHOCKING Letter Published In Lakewood Newspaper ⚡📰 #1320520iacisrmmaParticipantGadolH: We have always believed that our chachamim are just that….chachamim. Their knowledge comes from learning the Torah and their expertise comes from the source of everything….the Torah. You have every right to go to a doctor. You don’t have the right to denigrate our chachamim.
July 18, 2017 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm in reply to: SHOCKING Letter Published In Lakewood Newspaper ⚡📰 #1320484iacisrmmaParticipantTLIK: You wrote “A real gadol does NOT give advice regarding subjects he does not know. It is the ignorant public that pushes the Rav to advise on medical subjects. But their advice there is actually lay knowledge, not Daas Torah. ”
The Chazon Ish was known for his expertise in medical situations. He did not have any “lay” knowledge. It is well known that a pediatrician in Eretz Yisrael kept the diagram for an operation that was drawn by the Chazon Ish. In addition, there was a medical conference in EY in the late Forties or Early Fifties. On of the speakers decried how the frum world went to the “black coat rabbis”. in fact one of his patients went to the Chazon Ish and followed what the Chazon Ish told him. Another doctor in the audience rose and said that the Chazon Ish conferred with him. The first question asked was how often is this doctor’s diagnosis incorrect? When told 25%, the Chazon Ish gave his advice.
Rav Pam was once asked advice by someone who had to undergo surgery for cancer. He went for two opinions. Both agreed that he needed surgery. Dr “A” was known as a very good surgeon; however, the oncologist suggested that he use Dr. “B”. He asked Rav Pam who advised to use Dr. “B” since the oncologist sees the patients after surgery he knows who the best surgeon is.
Rav Yaakov Kaminetsky was an exception. When he became rav in small Russian town, he realized there was no doctor. He stayed up all night reading a medical book. A few days later somebody in town took sick. Reb Yaakov called the doctor in the next town to discuss the situation. The other doctor was convinced that he was talking to a trained physician and not the Rav of the town.
iacisrmmaParticipantGadolH: I never realized you were actually Rachel Maddow! or maybe Jim Acosta.
July 18, 2017 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm in reply to: SHOCKING Letter Published In Lakewood Newspaper ⚡📰 #1319965iacisrmmaParticipantGadolH: You wrote: The highly competitive Lakewood yeshiva/beis Yaakov admissions process is really not that different from those in other frum communities and indeed, is probably less stressful than admissions have become to secular private schools in the NYC metropolitan area.
Actually, due to the limited number of Girls High Schools , it is more stressful then even in NYC.
iacisrmmaParticipantThe problem is the term “fake media”. Most of the time, the issue and report may be true but the analysis is biased. The media has forgotten that it is there to report the news, not analyze it for us.
July 18, 2017 10:26 am at 10:26 am in reply to: SHOCKING Letter Published In Lakewood Newspaper ⚡📰 #1319682iacisrmmaParticipantWhat I am trying to understand is what was the author of the letter trying to accomplish? We know these issues still exist. Is that principal still employed by that yeshiva? Does that principal even remember the incident? Is it really a girl or is it a boy as some facts were changed?
To the OP:
What was your purpose in posting the letter here? Most of us would never have seen it as we don’t live in Lakewood.
iacisrmmaParticipantWhy would you think they are not tznius?
iacisrmmaParticipantAvram in MD: I do agree with you that there is a point when it becomes “too fast”. The description you give does lend to being “too fast”. The minyan where I daven isn’t tied to an end time. We try to finish (starting from Rabbi Yishmael) in 33 minutes (Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday ) and 38 minutes (Monday & Thursday) to accommodate those who have to be in work early. If we don’t then they just leave before Aleinu.
As to your question: “Also, what is the limud zechus for ultra-fast davening on Yom Tov, such as blubluh’s experience?” No time was actually given. We don’t know the paramaters of what bluhbluh calls fast. I once davened for the amud at a Bungalow Colony on the first night of Shavuous. Maariv took 12-15 minutes. Is that fast? What is extra then on a weeknight? Using the proper nussach? Yom Tov Shemona Esrei has less words then the weekday shemona esrei.
iacisrmmaParticipantMeno: That phone call I described was not to someone listed as the reference.
iacisrmmaParticipantI introduce myself and tell them why I am calling. I have had situations where the reference has offered a “narrative” while others wanted me to ask questions.
One thing you may want to do is to call people who you know in that neighborhood and ask if they know the family. You may get better information then from the “official references”.
I know someone who called a member of his family and only asked if he knew “Ploni” and the person responded “what a sweet boy”. Only then was he told that the caller was checking on “Ploni” as a potential shidduch for his daughter.
July 16, 2017 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm in reply to: Marrying off the last one, does this mean we are officially old? 👴👵 #1318387iacisrmmaParticipantCTL: may the chupa take place BSHAH TOVA UMITZLACHAS. Age is a state of mind. From your posts I feel you are far from “old”.
iacisrmmaParticipantAviK: I can’t tell you about NYC agencies but not all NYS agencies se like that. Depending on what the profession is you don’t have to work for “life” . Pensions vest earlier then they used to. One has to weigh all the factors when taking a government job.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: the entire justice system in NY is not corrupt.
iacisrmmaParticipantBluhbluh: as a Baal Korei I can tell you that reading to myself takes less time then when I lein in public. It takes me about 10 minutes to lein Rus in public.and it’s a regular Kaddish after the Megillah not a Kaddish D’rabbonon.
iacisrmmaParticipantAviK: or the benefits and pension packages are very good. In other situations (especially) in larger cities, government jobs are attractive to yidden as there are fewer issues with leaving with Shabbos and Yom Tov
iacisrmmaParticipantAvram and ZD: When I said “most minyanim” I should have qualified by saying here in NYC. Most of the shuls in my neighborhood do not say korbanos. They start with Brochos and skip to R’ Yishmael. In my shul it takes approximately 35 – 40 minutes depending who davens for the amud.
July 14, 2017 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm in reply to: Should Yeshiva world invite experts to interact with the audience on vital issues #1317841iacisrmmaParticipantHow do you define “interactively”? Once questions / comments have to be screened you lose the “interactive”.
iacisrmmaParticipantMatza Minyan = 18 minutes and out.
Avram in MD – I understand your point…just 2 questions. Does the davening start with Brochos or R’ Yishmael? Nussach Ashkenaz or Nussach Sfard?
I have found hat most weekday minyanim take between 30 – 35 minutes.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: I disagree with your terminology of “tip off the press”. I work for a law enforcement agency. We notify the press. It is their choice if they want to cover the story.
Their is a case in NY where the courts found that the perp walk in that case served no purpose and prejudiced the proceedings. However, the courts still said perp walks are legal.
iacisrmmaParticipantDY: are you quoting a news article or the actual decision? I quoted from the decision, not a news article. The judges decision states: “it is not clear beyond a reasonable doubt that a rational jury would have reached the same conclusion if properly instructed, as is required by law to let the verdict stand”.
That does not say it is not a crime as you previously stated nor does it state that it is legal.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: I never said that a “perp walk” is coordinated with the alleged defendant. I disagreed with your comment that the press is notified “on the condition of anonymity”. The press is generally notified by the prosecutor/law enforcement agency about the arrest.
DaasYochid: You wrote: Okay, but according to current law, he didn’t commit a crime. That’s not a mere technicality.
That is not what the Federal Appeals court said. It stated that the conviction is overturned due the judge’s error in his instructions to the jury and if he did give the “correct” instructions then the jury may not have convicted him. It does not say it was not a crime. A very big difference.
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Very gently pour 2 tablespoons of chocolate syrup slowly down the inside of the glass; briskly stir with a long spoon only at the bottom of the glass where the chocolate sits. The resulting drink should have a dark brown bottom and a 1-inch high pure white foam top (if you mix it too much, the foam disappears).
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iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: Agreed with this sentiment?
Maybe if I can figure out what you wrote.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: You wrote: One nice perk of being a prosector is giving the perp walk to those “innocent until proven guilty”, and calling up all the TV stations beforehand (“on the condition of anonymity”) to give them the addresses the FBI will raid to take those non-convicted out in handcuffs in front of their children and neighbors.
“Perp walks” are coordinated beforehand and are not done “on the condition of anonymity”. While you may not like them they are not illegal. I have personally been on teams of investigators that have executed search warrants where the press was not called but were notified by the local residents that something was “going down” and they should check it out.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph: There are cases where the person is innocent after being accused. For example John Jones SSN 123-45-6789 is accused of filing false papers. They go and find that it was really John Jones SSN 122-45-6789.
Many times charges are dismissed because the defendant proves that they did not commit the crime. They are innocent. However, once the case goes to a judge or jury the verdict is not “innocent or guilty” but “guilty or not guilty”.
Another example. Grand Jury indicts John Doe for stealing $1.5 million. At trial, the judge disallows documents that were presented to the Grand Jury that proved $550,000 of the theft. Therefore the prosecutor only could prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” $950,000. Is that a false and accusation and is the defendant actually innocent? or just not guilty of stealing $1.5 million?
And of course what about the case of EIDIM ZOMEMIM? The eidus of the discredited eidim cannot be believed; it doesn’t mean that the event didn’t actually happen.
iacisrmmaParticipantI do believe in “innocent until proven guilty”. However, let us remember that even if this goes to trial and they are found “not guilty” does not mean they were “falsely accused”. It just means that the prosecutor did not meet his burden of “beyond reasonable doubt”.
iacisrmmaParticipantYPostelnik and others: According to what I read she was sentenced to serve 9 days in 2013 on a contempt charge. So far, I cannot find anything that states she is currently incarcerated.
In 2016 she sued the judge in Federal Court and the court found for the judge. All of this can easily be found online (unless the moderator will allow the URL’s linking the court documents).
The father was not jewish, converted, and had the conversion invalidated by the CRC.
iacisrmmaParticipantAccording to one website the judge found her in contempt….in 2013. It seems that this whole thing happened 4 years ago. I suggest googling Julie Goffstein.
BTW, according to that website, the father was not born jewish, converted, and in 2012 the Chicago Rabbinical Council invalidated his conversion.
In addition, Julie Goffstein sued the judge in Federal Court and lost.
iacisrmmaParticipantJoseph and A613: Trying to understand this article and why I should as Joseph said “throw our full, unthrottled, support for her”. It seems that the divorce happened or was supposed to happen in 2010 and between 2010 and 2011 the judge awarded the children to the husband. Now if this protracted legal battle has been going on for 6 or 7 years why is it only now that someone is asking us to get involved? It is possible that the judge may have made some bad decisions but IMHO there is much here that we aren’t being told.
July 11, 2017 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm in reply to: Correlation between Expensive things and Greater Value #1315393iacisrmmaParticipantoyy: And you just realized this now? I mean both words do appear in the Torah!
iacisrmmaParticipant1. Rosh Yeshiva in EY tells talmid not to go to BMG.
2. Might be in Rabbinical Seminary of America (i.e. Yeshiva Chafetz Chaim)
3. Not accepted to BMGiacisrmmaParticipantAny less mean than a Baked Apple? Apple Pie?
July 7, 2017 8:40 am at 8:40 am in reply to: Correlation between Expensive things and Greater Value #1312807iacisrmmaParticipantRashi on the passuk in Tehillim states KASHER VCHAVEID – difficult and heavy. The ones in Esther, based on the context, means honor.
iacisrmmaParticipantthegoq: I had an incident many years ago. Person bought about $250 worth of groceries and after everything was rung up handed the cashier about 40 coupons. As the store manager, I went through the coupons and separated out a bunch and told the customer he didn’t buy those products as the store didn’t sell them. He asked me how did I know if everything was already in bags, I replied “those items aren’t kosher so we don’t sell them”. I had the workers unpack the order and ring it up again. Of the 40 coupons, only 10 were for items he actually purchased.
July 6, 2017 9:56 am at 9:56 am in reply to: Education Expenses should not be recognized as income regarding social services #1311800iacisrmmaParticipantctl: My question is, if the federal government allows credits for non-compulsory education at private universities, why can’t it allow credits for compulsory education in private schools?
July 6, 2017 6:11 am at 6:11 am in reply to: Correlation between Expensive things and Greater Value #1311654iacisrmmaParticipantYirmiyahu 31:19 – הֲבֵן יַקִּיר לִי אֶפְרַיִם Is Ephraim a son who is dear to Me?
Esther 1:4 – בְּהַרְאֹתוֹ אֶת עשֶׁר כְּבוֹד מַלְכוּתוֹ וְאֶת יְקָר When he showed the riches of his glorious kingdom, and the splendor
Esther 6:6 וַיָּבוֹא הָמָן וַיֹּאמֶר לוֹ הַמֶּלֶךְ מַה לַּעֲשׂוֹת בָּאִישׁ אֲשֶׁר הַמֶּלֶךְ חָפֵץ בִּיקָרוֹ וַיֹּאמֶר הָמָן בְּלִבּוֹ לְמִי יַחְפֹּץ הַמֶּלֶךְ לַעֲשׂוֹת יְקָר יוֹתֵר מִמֶּנִּי: And Haman entered, and the king said to him, “What should be done to a man whom the king wishes to honor?” And Haman said to himself, “Whom would the king wish to honor more than me?”
Esther 8:16 לַיְּהוּדִים הָיְתָה אוֹרָה וְשִׂמְחָה וְשָׂשׂן וִיקָר: The Jews had light and joy, and gladness and honor.
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