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I agree with the posters who stuck up for “akuperma”.
Is it really appropriate to create a thread just to gossip about another poster?
==> Caution! <==
Think twice before posting (possibly) personal info, especially in what may be a trolling thread.
If you really hate getting into a cold car, “mewho”s suggestion of a remote starter is something worth considering.
I’m afraid this may get uggly.
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OneOfMany-
nfgo3-
Thank you.
(That’s got to be the first time Casablanca was quoted in the CR)
(something a little less serious)
My life is so much easier
Since I gave up my brain
Last night in bed it fled my head
Escaped down the shower drain
With all types of odds and ends
Geraniums and fruit bits, dried
Which from my nostrils I dispense
The cool breeze flows from ear to ear
And whistles thru the void
Ambitionless, and with no fear
Take that now, Dr. Freud
I no longer buy the groceries
I offered to, got nosirees
Dispensed jelly beans, instead
But I no longer care
So join me if you dare
yiddeshemeidle613–
Good point. But, different people have different styles – some are happy with rush-rush.
puppy–
🙁
Comprehend of language is problem english. Socks quality is highest excellent. Package on label dry bleach only not to use. Customer is stupid is problem is socks not. Wash rinse repeat. Have a nice day.
Signed,
Eym Noh Joo
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Dear Noh,
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Signed,
Is it worn on a person (such as clothes, shoes, hat, sheitel, cast, etc)?
I’m sure you have a good reason for taking a break, but your sensible voice will be missed here.
Please keep the break short – don’t be a stranger!
I am currently going out with a fine young woman. Although we seem to be a good match, I have a major concern. Every time we sit and talk, she can’t seem to take her eyes off of my socks. What can this mean? Should I be concerned?
Signed,
Gedalia Greystroke
Dear Gedalia,
First of all, how many times must I tell people not to use their real names? Aren’t you aware that there are trolls and stalkers out there?
Signed,
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Signed,
M. T. Kupp
Dear Kupp,
Signed,
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My favorite pair of white socks now stand up by themselves and their color has changed to coal-black.
My friends tell me it’s time to wash them, but they are my favorite pair and I really don’t want to take them off. What should I do?
Signed,
Massoud Masriach
Dear Massoud,
While your well-meaning friends may have a point, you must be true to yourself. One of the advantages of your current sartorial style is that you will be given ample personal space wherever you go. Besides, who knows? Some folks may actually find black socks preferable.
Signed,
DaasYochid-
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Derech HaMelech-
We have it too, but I’ve never played it.
I know one of the questions it always asks is “Is it bigger than a breadbox?”, but I didn’t know that “Animal, vegetable or mineral” was also one.
Great SN, btw.
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Should I correct the type in my previous post?
Nah, let it stay there.
HaLeiVi–
That’s an interesting svora, and well thought out.
The only thing is, while Rav Belsky mentioned the fact that someone sweated over the product’s creation, that point seemed more from the ethical perspective than halacha.
DaasYochid–
“… if it’s not geneiva, there might be issues of lo s’chonem to purchase what is available b’chinom.“
That occurred to me, too.
As far as the link you posted, yep.
One more on this thread, too.
snowbunny3318–
“what does ehrlich mean?“
Honest. Straight. Righteous. Ethical.
The opposite of dishonest, slippery, unethical, sleazy, deceptive.
Animal, vegetable or mineral?
(that’s how we always stared the questions when I was a kid)
jbaldy22–
“From what I heard his reasoning was because it is not sold on the market any more it is not assur.“
Ah, that may be different. There is an ethical debate about copying “abandonware”, and further, Rav Belsky permits the copying of music that’s no longer available for sale anywhere: “A CD or tape which is no longer sold in stores and is not possible to buy may be copied from a friend. However, one must make sure that the item is really not available for purchase. Many old tapes are still being sold online (by the original producer or someone who bought the rights to them).“
Source: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/weekly_torah.php?id=398
“My second (good) proof was from the fact then when asked the question about the i wouldnt have bought it svara he didnt just say its gneiva either way – he just said that the logic doesnt follow.“
This can also be read that the logic doesn’t follow and therefore it’s g’neiva.
“The reason youve never heard anyone talking about my nochri distinction is because no posek in their right mind would ever want to be quoted on such a thing.“
Maybe, maybe not. This is a instance of more to discuss, but not on a public forum (sorry).
“Also by the way the government doesnt prosecute pirates any more they only prosecute uploaders – you could probably download a program in front of a cop and they wouldnt do anything to you. Which is why similarly to HUD dina dmalchusa would not apply according to many poskim.“
Interesting svora. I wasn’t aware that the govt. either officially or unofficially doesn’t go after illegal downloaders. Have you actually heard this from a rov?
BTW, I have no idea what HUD aspect you’re referring to, but I suspect it may also be a “non-public-forum” issue.
HaLeiVi–
“Which Lav is Dina D’malchusa? “
I don’t know. This was just a quick question I asked at the end of a discussion, and I didn’t follow up.
“Unless Rav Belsky meant Geneiva, when Dina D’malchusa dictates who something belongs to or which rights he has. Whenever you’ll find Dina D’malchusa it is in this context. The Malchus has the ability to be Kove’a certain things. We probably depend on that for the Kinyan of checks and wire-transfers.“
Once again, I don’t know. If an unethical “chochom” tries to play games based on the differences between a halachik kinyan and U.S. law, I don’t know how that would be handled.
“Tosafos in Bava Basra 2b learns that Hezek She’eino Nikkar means a Hezek that isn’t obvious, not necessarily that the loss is not physical. Therefore, planting grapes too close to someone’s field is a Hezek Nikkar, while putting a Sheretz on fruits is not obvious because we can’t tell if they are Muchshar.“
True, Tosfos is clearly using the term “nikar” to mean “you can tell while the damage is being done that it is a hezek”, such as klayim still attached to the ground.
“Let’s not forget, Ve’asisa Hayashar Vehatov. “
I strongly agree.
Let’s not forget that people’s parnasa is dependent on their getting paid for their work. Or, in Rav Belsky’s words, “That’s very important to remember. Someone sweated nights and invested money and time in order to create a certain item that the public is interested in, and then he’s ready to sell it. And then it turns out that some Napster type of enterprise gets its hands on it, and people end up paying zero for it.”
yekke2-
First and most importantly, please accept my apology for the harsh tone of my first post to you on this thread.
Now, for some replies:
‘yekke2’ further attempted to post links to illegal piracy websites, but was blocked by the moderators
I simply remembered these posts:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/computer-program-for-video-editing#post-403155
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/computer-program-for-video-editing#post-403530
As far as my disagreement(s) with what you brought down, I don’t really have much to add that I didn’t already say on the earlier thread.
Whether I agree or not isn’t important. I suggest you discuss some of your points with a magid shiur or Rosh Yeshiva. Some of what you say is logical, and as a halacha discussion, there really isn’t any downside to discussing it.
I learned several perakim in Bava Kama, but not the entire mesechta.
A Google search for that case brings up this page that mentions it as a case in the Yerushalmi that is patur b’dinei adam v’chayav b’dinai shomayim:
http://www.torah.org/advanced/business-halacha/5757/vol1no35.html
DaasYochid–
Perhaps enlist the help of “OneOfMany”? Her “troll radar” is far better than mine.
HaLeiVi –
I use the word processor quite a bit and the spreadsheet lightly without any issues.
DaasYochid–
I gave my reason for not responding just so nobody would think I was unable to respond.
jbaldy22–
snowbunny3318–
“What if, for example, you ordered yourself microsoft office, and your computer crashes, and you have to reinstall it? Is that assur?“
I’ve done so myself multiple times.
“That is also like software copying, or better yet, you install microsoft office on multiple computers in your house, using one cd instead of spending hundreds of dollars on as many packages as you have computers and laptops in your house.“
Not at all. Reinstalling software on a crashed computer in what everyone does, with the vendors’ OK. Nobody would buy from a vendor who refused to allow a reinstall.
Here are some issues and potential issues that I see with copying:
Hasogas gvul
Chilul H-shem
BTW, I recommend “Open Office” instead of Microsoft Office.
It works great, and it’s free.
just my hapence-
DaasYochid-
A couple of things:
1) Not everyone who assurs copying holds that it’s explicit g’zaila (or g’naiva). As a side point, I don’t understand why anyone calls it g’zaila since it seems to be more like g’naiva (to me).
Some interesting points re: v’haishiv es ha’g’zaila, what it entails, and how to be mekayim it, as well as taking ownership of stolen property, can be seen in the following two links:
http://www.businesshalacha.com/articles/hey-thats-my-bike
(moderator – please allow the links as they are related to a halocha discussion.)
–Rene Descartes
yekke2–
I apologize for my overly harsh personal criticism.
Let me try to rephrase what I’m trying to say.
There’s nothing wrong with looking up various meforshim and poskim to try to support a svoro of yours.
What is wrong is deriving your own heter based on that for action(s) that many (if not most) rabonim and poskim hold are problematic / assur for various reasons. At the very least, one is obligated to ask a shailo to their rov about the action in question.
Once that’s done, even if you’ve gotten the OK you must still be careful not to publicly announce that “it’s OK and completely mutar” – you must be very careful to explain that, although your posek may be matir it, there are many who aren’t, and one must be very cautious about the issue (needless to say, gnaiva is serious and Rav Belsky and [lbclc] Rav Moshe aren’t to be trifled with).
A less contentious example of this is that one who follows Rav Belsky’s psak that drinking water in NYC needn’t be filtered shouldn’t state in a public forum that “it’s no problem”, rather “per my posek, it isn’t a problem, but you should ask your rov”.
There are also certain issues/halochos that should not be discussed on a public forum for obvious reasons (v’hamavin yovin).
mdd–
+1
This thread’s heading has been jarring for the last couple of days, ever since it’s been brought back to page 1.
jewishness–
Too strong.
Source: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/weekly_torah.php?id=398
For a self-described sixteen-year-old-kid to bring his own svoros to be matir what Rav Belsky and Rav Moshe asser’d and encourage others to engage in what they call g’naiva (g’zaila, actually) is the height of chutzpa.
His posts encouraging software and music piracy are disgusting and (to me, at least) a chilul H-shem. We can imagine the impression being conveyed to non-observant Jews and non-Jews.
* http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-old-are-you
** http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/i-admit-i-made-a-mistake
*** http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-joseph-thread#post-190937
OneOfMany-
I tried to post the instructions on another CR thread a few days ago, but it wasn’t approved 🙁 Sorry.
There is also a Bing search that seems to work.
With your permission, I can post the both the Google and Bing search info on your blog as a comment.
Would you then be able to copy and delete the info, or would it stay out there forever?
“golfer” raises a very valid point.
Throwing up in the crib can be a choking hazard, and is potentially very dangerous.
MorahRach-
First of all, a belated Mazel Tov! for your bechor.
May he be a continuing source of nachas for you and your husband.
I do think it’s mentchlich to do everything reasonably possible (hold/rock your baby, go to a different room, etc.) to ensure your neighbor’s children aren’t woken up.
On January 9th
this thread was bumped
its newer clone
so rudely dumped
it’s not that we don’t
like that thread
it just made sense
to use this, instead
Moderator/Editor–
I suggest closing this thread and allowing the discussion to continue here:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tipping-a-delivery-boy-mandatory-or-optional
The Q & A of “Is it round? As a whole entity, I would not describe it as being round.” made me think it was something almost round, i.e. a mandolin.
DaasYochid–
“An automatic troll detector.“
+1
With an ejection seat.
YW Moderator-42–
“…many restrooms nowadays (including in some yeshivos) have paper towel dispensers that work with a sensor. The problem is you can’t use them on Shabbos.“
I’m surprised a yeshiva would have that. What do people do on Shabbos?
“…I once saw a bathroom in a fancy place that had toilet seat covers that cover the entire seat and are replaced by pushing a button that makes it roll away like a conveyor belt and be replaced with a new clean one.“
Cool!
Just make sure that it’s really a one-way roll and not a belt that loops the same paper ’round and ’round 😛
“Then there are those public towels that everyone shares at some sinks in Israel…“
I’ve seen them here too. Yuck.
OneOfMany–
2scents–
yuneeq–
The only trick involved is ending up at the screen that allows the change.
Moderators have expressed a preference that that info not be posted, so anyone who wants to do so has to figure it out themselves.
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Hmmm, sounds like a musical instrument of some type, and “It can’t always be used” may be due to muktza.
(not a guess, just thinking out loud.)
Several other threads have addressed this topic:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/forgive-and-forget
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/help-me-forgive
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/asking-mechila
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/forgiving-someone-who-doesnt-deserve-it
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/letting-go-of-anger
Public restrooms should all have a way to get hand paper towels without having to touch the germy, wet surface of a handle that needs to be pumped to dispense the paper.
This can be accomplished via an electric eye, a foot pump, or the brown paper towels we are all familiar with from yeshiva.
There are other unsanitary / yucky surfaces in public restrooms too, but they can be worked around.
Trolling tricks:
A second flavor is to actually create both SNs, then switch the displayed SN of one to the other, and only use the changed SN. This way, when someone clicks the SN next to the post, they see the profile of a SN that seems not to have any posts. For an example of this, please see:
frummy in the tummy-
“Everyone give up?“
Speaking for myself only, I’m getting close to that point.
It sounds like a game of some type to me (Monopoly? the pieces are metal. Nok-Hockey? Can’t be table tennis – that has legs.) but I don’t think any of those are correct.
OK, here’s a Q: Is it a game?
Joseph-
You are not stupid – in fact you’re probably quite intelligent.
You know what you’re doing is wrong.
You know better.
You can do better.
You promised to do better: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/i-admit-i-made-a-mistake#post-202899
Does keeping your word mean nothing to you?
Shame on you.
anon1m0us-
Ignore the troll’s insults. Better yet, ignore him completely.
BTW, here’s the link to his profile for this SN:
<<Ahem!>>
Trolliers Encyclopedia verifies that “The Goq” was indeed first:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mods-an-idea-about-trolls
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-do-women-upstate-do-all-day
Furthermore, “Troll Patrol”, which was going to be my next suggestion, was also already posted other threads.
Well, you know what they say about great minds.
How about “For Whom the Bell Trolls”
Or “The Billy’s Club” (as in the billy goats gruff)
“Let’s Troll”?
Troll house cookies?
Take a troll down memory lane?
Trolling for dollars?
Trolling down the river?
“That being said, I do like the idea of there being a user-based method of flagging trolls. However, it should not be done on the public forum. We all know from experience that it can quickly spiral into some very unpleasant and messy witch-hunts. I think that it would be nice if there was some sort of line of communication straight to the mods dedicated to flagging troublesome users. However, I don’t know how difficult such a thing would be to execute, so I don’t know if it’s something we can expect.“
+1
Unfortunately.
Is its primary use outdoors?
1) A GPS unit that allows you to actually program your trip street-by-street, if you so choose.
2) A simple way to download driving directions from Google (where it is quite easy to do the above street-by-street trip planning) would also be nice.
frummy in the tummy-
Thank you.
Yes, it’s ironic that, just like my mythical Mensa member, I confused “push” and “pull”. Oh, well. 😛
You can Google “Midvale school for the gifted” to see the inspiration for “The MENSA Wannabe”.
uneeq-
Humph.
Back to the drawing board.
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This isn’t an invention, but a suggestion for improvement:
Valet parking at simchos in Brooklyn usually means street parking, possibly several blocks away.
If the valets had small motorized foldable scooters available, it would increase the range of parking spots they could use and also speed up the cars’ retrieval process after the simcha.
The scooters should be foldable and have electric motors, to minimize noise and mess. They will need to include something to protect the car’s mats in rainy weather.
Another “parking” idea:
A small printer should be available to print out a tiny street map (index-card sized) showing where a guest’s car is, for those who prefer to just go get it themselves when they leave.
In an example of crushing irony, Touro (pronounced to-row) doesn’t have a rowing team.