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Re Health’s comment on huju’s comment: With respect to Trump’s “thought process,” I share the view of the poster (Rebyid) who immediately follows your comment. Trump and the Republicans have had more than 6 years to find a replacement for Obamacare, somethinge/o” to come up with a replacement. And for every day between repeal and replacement, people will suffer needless financial hardship, sickness and death, the the mitzvah of providing healthcare for all will be unfulfilled.
Can anyone think of a pun using kol/coal? If not, then this thread is a waste.
The opening poster clearly has no understanding of the First Amendment. Period. He/she clearly never studied it in school at any level, nor in his/her adult life. It is a shame that so many Americans have so little understanding of the meaning of their/our freedoms.
There are a number of problems with the opening post, but I will focus on just one.
Whether or not healthcare is a right under US law, under the Torah, healthcare for each person in a coumunity is a responsibility of the whole community. This is the opinion of the Rambam, and I am sorry that I do not have a specific citation for this view. The Torah speaks more of responsibilities and obligations than of rights, and so maybe Obamacare should be recast as the federalization and secularization of the mitzvah of providing healthcare for all. Repeal without replacement would mean death or severe illness for many people. Perhaps the opening poster owes us an explanation for what he would do for all the people whose health would be severely jeopardized by a repeal, or a faulty repeal-and-replace, of Obamacare.
Jobs at Goldman Sachs and other successful investment firms are not “cushie.” They work hard for their money. They may not be fully honest, or within the law, but they do work hard. And plenty of people get jobs at successful investment firms and get booted in short order, because they cannot do the work. If being a successful investment firm and making crazy big money were easy, everybody would do it.
If you were married at 18, had your last child at age 36, he/she marries at 18, you’re 54. Not old.
If you were married at 25, had your last child at age 39, he/she marries at 25, you’re 64. You’re old. There is even a song about “when I get old and losing my hair …”
You are doing it wrong. Glasses generally impair rather than enhance one’s appearance, and looks matter to employers (and most others), especially if you are a woman.
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Fidget spinners. Try to get 12 of them spinning at the same speed at once. (12 – one for each tribe.)
The goyim’s Ivy League has 7 colleges. Jews should have 8 elite yeshivas.
Well, it’s good to know that so many Jews think yeshiva students are smarter than public school students. But 4 days after I suggested that someone present facts, this thread remains fact-free and opinion-heavy.
I find this discussion sad and depressing. Grown, married men with children have no business “learning” until they have a clear and sound plan for parnassah. Yeshivas and kollels are partly to blame, and parents who let their sons think the Kollel fairy (tooth fairy’s frum brother) will provide for their families are the biggest threat to the future of frum Jews.
The Jewish music I hear in kosher supermarkets (the only place I listen to it, because I have no choice) cannot be underrated.
And, mods, didn’t I have another post? Did you take it down, or did it fall off? Or am I hallucinating about a post I did not post?
Hallucinating.
To CTLawyer: I absolutely understood the appropriateness of your factually correct comment. I enjoy the occaisional joke. And I agree with you about Joseph’s inaccuracies.
It’s nice to hear from storekeepers that those darn coupons cause as much trouble for them as they do for the rest of us. I think it is an insult to customers to inconvenience them with the burden of clipping coupons. If you want to charge lower prices, do so, but don’t make me jump through hoops. (And last week, I gave myself a nasty cut while using a scissors – but it was not on a coupon for bandages.)
To CTLawyer: I think you misunderstood the question.
I think everyone is talking around an issue involving Lakewood. I will speak directly:
There are reports that about 10 people in Lakewood are suspected – but not convicted – of lying to get government benefits, and some of these people are learning in Kollel. If it’s only these 10, or even 20 or 30, and they are guilty of the alleged offenses, that says nothing about Lakewood, but it does say something about the 10 or 20 or 30 wrongdoers.
The negative and defensive responses to these reports are premature. They also imply that the people responding believe that some of the accused are in fact guilty, and that the problem is widespread in Lakewood. No news media have reported anything like that. The respondents should hold their tongues and sit on their hands, and step away from their keyboards, until there are facts reported beyond the current, not-yet-proven accusations.
Re Joseph’s comment re Dear Sir, et al.: Your speculation about the meaning of “Dear” in the salutation of a business letter is nonsensical speculation. “Dear” in a business letter means nothing other than: I’m talking to you.
It is very important to know whether yeshiva secular education is sound. Without any facts, Joseph has assured us that ihe believes that t is, but this thread has remained substantially fact-free.
In British English, “dear” is sometimes used to mean “expensive.” I think you are overlooking that meaning. I do not know enough about Hebrew etymology to speculate on how “yakar” came to mean what you say it means, but it may be a mis-translation by a Jewish English-speaker who used “yakar” in a way not theretofore used to mean “expensive.”
I have no idea what the opening poster is trying to tell us.
Joseph has raised the question and given us his beliefs. Does anybody have any facts that answer his questions? And perhaps a more meaningful comparison would be Yeshiva students vs. Jewish public school students.
Climate change is not measured day-to-day or even year-to-year by weather reports. It stretches over hundreds of years, and there is little daily weather data prior to the late 19th century. Climate change deniers do their uninformed denying whenever it snows or gets cold.
There are 2 problems with so-called Jewish music: it ain’t Jewish, and it ain’t music.
Re Joseph’s comment about Kushners eating treiff in public: I agree. I eat treiff only in private. And not just because eating lobster is so messy.
I am strictly kosher, in public and private, when eating hot dogs, because the kosher ones are the best-tasting anyway. (And Hebrew National are not kosher enough for me, even though they are tasty enough.)
Synthetic oil is not acceptable in Chanukah menorahs.
The opening poster has posed a question with a very simple answer: if you are eating something you did not yet pay for, and intend not to pay for it, or don’t pay for it, is it stealing? The answer is so simple that I won’t write the answer that, of course, it is stealing. But I do ask why this kind of question comes up occaisionally? Stealing is stealing, it’s not hard to figure out.
As for the etiquette issue, who cares?
I think the OP meant intending to pay.
The refrigerator light is only a part of the refrigerator problem. When you open a fridge door, you let in warm air, and the thermostat generally kicks on. Have the rabbis deemed this different than opening the door of the fridge? I don’t see the difference – but I am not a rabbi.
I have a Persian Muslim neighbor. The one time we forgot to tape over the switch on Shabbos, I asked the neighbor – at about 10 pm on Friday, when her husband was still at work – she knew what I was asking before I finished my explanation and came over and taped over the switch for us.
So it’s a good thing that Muslim ban never kicked in.
Joseph evidently thinks it will be good for the Jews if the citizens of East Ramapo who must rely on the public schools get as little education as legally possible.
The problem in the East Ramapo school district is that a majority of voters prefer private schools – yeshivas in particular – over public schools, and do not get any direct benefit from school taxes. Hence the school board – which is elected by the majority of voters – proposes low levels of spending on public schools. This is understandable and lawful, but it creates a serious problem for the minority of East Ramapo residents who rely on public schools to educate their children.
There is no easy way out of this dilemma, but Joseph is not looking for one. We should consider funding public schools on a state-wide basis, not district-by-district, to eliminate the disparities between rich and poor districts, and lighten the tax burden on parents preferring private schools.
Bussing children has no place in public, religious or other private schools. Busing, on the other hand, is an important matter for children who live too far from school to walk. If parents want to buss their children before they go to school, the government should not interfere one way or the other.
Maybe because tinted glass makes a horse a horse of a different color.
Moilech is utterly wrong in so many ways. Stress is stress, whether its internal, external, bipolar or eternal. And it will be eternal if you are forever in financial stress. Get a sufficient parnassah, get rid of unmanageable debt and the financial stress, and Torah will get rid of all the other stress.
To the opening poster: You don’t tell us what kind of “pressure” you are under to need a parnassah. Are you married, have one or more kids? Deeply in debt? Anyone who tells you to take the longer road to earning a living is not making a realistic evaluation of your needs. If you are debt-free, spouse-free, kid-free, take your time. Otherwise, get real.
Jews were not the first people in Eretz Yisrael. Hashem gave it to us by directing and empowering Yehoshua ben Nun to drive out the folks who were already there. It does not matter who was there first. It’s ours, when Hashem is ready to return us to it.
As for when the “Palestinians” arrived in Israel, it depends on whether they are descendants of the Caananites or some other people, e.g., Persians, Greeks or New Yorkers.
Re CTLawyer comment about grounds for impeachment: I believe Trump is in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution because he uses too much moisturizer.
There is no surer sign of lack of education, or immaturity, than someone who cannot understand why all people (or some subset of all people) are different than him or her. I have met Christians who are absolutely cannot comprehend that I, a Jew, do not celebrate Xmas. I have met secular Jews who are shocked that I go to shul on the second day of Rosh Hashanah. There are lots of reasons why people differ. I am shocked that you do not understand that.
There is a story about a chassid who walks into a bar with a parrot on his hat, and the bar tender asks, where did you get that, and the parrot says, Brooklyn, they’re all over the place. Maybe the BT’s should hang out at that bar.
How did Trump get through Wharton? I know from direct information that some people can “get through” college if his/her family makes a big-enough donation. I don’t know anything about Trump at Wharton, but if Wharton is like other private colleges, I can guess. I wonder whether the donor records from the 1960’s are still available.
Your mother is so fat, she lives in two countries.
Presidents have the same rights as other US citizens. They have responsibilities that are unlike other US citizens. First responsibility: don’t be stupid. Trump’s not doing too good on that one.
Who cares where the US embassy is? Well, when Obama was president, the Obama-haters cared and wanted it in Jerusalem. Now that Trump is president, the Obama-haters seem not to care.
Any Russian hacker can change your password. And most American fifth-graders.
If we built free yeshivas, how do sign up my kids? And please post the addresses of the free mikvahs and synagogues.
The answer is, so far, no. (OK, maybe the one where the rabbi gets the dog.)
Newt and Callista Gingrich.
Donald and Marla Trump.
Donald and Ivana Trump.
Everyone considers him/herself “regular people.” That’s why politicians promise to help them.
The only way to know how yeshivas should set their tuition is to see their financial statements, prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principals, and additional information about “executive compensation,” i.e., what is paid to principals, board members and other persons who control the yeshivas. Until we have that information, discussions of tuition are little more than uniformed kibitzing.
I hope Trump turns into the Jimmy Carter of 1977 and brokers a peace deal with Israel and its neighbors (including Iran), as Carter did with Israel and Egypt. And does not mention “apartheid” until he’s old and senile.
Children are not allowed to use pens to keep the walls clean.