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Health, ask any doctor about the antibiotic crises.

For some illnesses usually treated with antibiotics doctors are saying they have practically nothing these days to treat some of them because the overuse of antibotics has created strains that are extremly resistent to just about all classes of antibiotics.

People are so indocrtinated with the idea of taking a drug for everything that if their children get the sniffles they insist the doctor give the kid antibiotics even when the doctor is trying to tell them “it’s just a cold, your kid will get over it and antibiotics would be an overuse”.

Go ask any pediatrician.

I think if people do not understand the difference in at least some cases it may be

some might not ‘want’ to understand the difference.

I do not se any major problems with people understanding the difference

between eating a full meal at a Pesach Seder or Sukkoth and eating less (or sometimes not at all) during each weekly meal.

I do not see any major problems between understanding the difference between eating kosher or not kosher, or between Torah study and secular studies.

Could it be that those who do not understand the difference between drinking on a bit more on Purim (and lets remember even on Purim we are not supposed to drink to the point of sickness and vomiting) and less during other times, are simply looking for excuses?

Cherrybim, how did you post your message without one of those “schmutzdik” computers?

It seems that any problems or lackings, tend to be attributed to the guys rather then the girls and the fact is, that it is far from so one sided, in real life.

I went out with girls who definately had problems that had nothing to do with me.

One had been abused and so any guy who even so much as closed an eyelash too “hard” was “a violent abuser” as far she was concerned.

Another had decided she was a paskening Rav and could pasken that the worst Loshon Hara she could possibly think of was something she could “pasken” was supposedly ‘not’ Loshon Hara.

She had no sensitivity whatsoever except for her own popularity, which she wanted at all costs, no matter who (including me) she had to hurt in order to have that perception that she was popular and liked by all the shallow types who cared only about agrandazing themselves, at the expense of others.

And still another at the end of the date, started screaming that she did not want to wear chassidish clothes and eat Cholent, even though neither of those things had been brought up by either of us.

She suddenly ran away after vehemently complaining she would not do those things as if I had told her she would be required to do them.

I always was more sensitive and I was rejected not by the girls (who never got a chance to meet me) but by the shadchannim who decided that a girl with good midos should be matched with a guy who spent a long time in yeshivah.

So a guy who learned for 10 years, but had lousy midos was sent out on dates with girls who had good midos.

Alcohol has legitimate uses such as wine on Shabbos and Pesach.

drughs like Cocaine have no legitimate use.

Wrong! Cocaine is used medicinally. ::::::::::::

Where?

I do not believe it is, in the US.

Morphine, I believe, not Cocaine (not in the US as far as I know and even ity it were it would be in very rare cases, certainly no doctor would in the US would ever perscribe it, to be bought at pharmacy or any other store).

Where did I ever say otherwise?

Admittedly, you did not.

However, if you say it’s dangerous to attend public school because of bullies, then would you say the same about yeshivos since the same problems exist there?;;;;;;;;;

Yes I would; Which is another reason why on another thread (which I cannot seem to find now)I said that boys need to learn to fight and defend themselves against bullies whether in yeshivah or anywhere else.

But my point about bullying in public schools is that the government commands

people to go to public school while then claiming to be so worried abouyt people not being in danger that they now want to outlaw salt.

The liberal hypocrisy is astounding.

Drugs impair people and under the inlfuence they harm to others.

One example is that case of the Jewish guy who was just executed in Florida and many

excused him saying “It’s not his fault it was the drugs, he was on”.

One could make the very same argument about alcohol. Why should narcotics be different in this regard? Or are you in favor of prohibition as well?;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Alcohol has legitimate uses such a swine on Shabbos and Pesach.

drughs like Cocaine have no legitimate use.

;;;;;;;;;;;;Whether legal or illegal, drugs are traffiked by organized crime.

I think you’re wrong here. They are trafficked by organized crime because they are illegal. If they were legal, they would be regulated on an open market, much as alcohol is today. ::::::::::::

I’m not wrong as I will, show below.

;;;;;;;;;;;If leagl they are increasingly taxed and the Mob simply maked billions by selling it on the street without paying the tax.

Do you see a lot of mob activity involved in tax-free beer?;;;;;;;;;;

There is plenty in Ciggerrettes and Gasoline from which the mob makes billions per month just in NY and New Jerseey.

;;;;;;;;;;;Users to, pay or it (and with taxes it will never be ‘cheap’) break into peoples houses and rob and sometimes kill for the money to keep getting high.

You could say the same about alcohol, cigarettes and other addictive substances. However, that doesn’t happen for a reason. The reason is economics.;;;;;;;;;;

No one breaks intio someones hoem to get his “Ciggerrette fix” but a meth addict will.

Anmd an alcoholic would not succeed, he’d be too drunk.

:::::::::::When drugs are illegal, the dealer takes substantial risk in trafficking in the drugs. To compensate him/her for this risk, higher prices are charged. Since the drugs are very expensive, it is likewise expensive to maintain a habit.

If drugs were legal (as alcohol and cigarettes are), there would be more open competition on the market. This would drive prices down. In addition, if the drugs were regulated, then there would be no need for the dealer to take the risk — people would buy the drugs at lower prices on the regulated market. ;;;;;;;;;;

cigarettes are over 7 dollars a pack (perhaps 10 dollars in some places, up to half of that price (or more?) is just for taxes.

The mob can sell them at half price and make a bundle.

;;;;;;;;;;;In the end, you’d have people stealing to buy drugs — at about the same rate that people steal for other legal substances today — which is not much.;;;;;;;;;;

The addictions and motivations to get the next fix are extremly different, any drug treatment counselor or doctor can confirm this for you.

;;;;;;;;;;Mind you, I’m NOT in favor of legalizing drugs. But the arguments you put forth are just wrong.’;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

You ‘thought’ they were wrong, that does not make them wrong.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;The Wolf

itiswhatitis, Your question specifically directed at me, seems to imply I am not for couples communicating.

I do not know where anyone would get that idea about me, I am all for communication and better skills at communicating between couples.

Mchemtob posted; “teaching a child to fight doeas not breed confidence and fighting doesnt necessary mean that they will overcome issues with a bully. kids that fight grow up into adults that fight.”

I can tell you from personal experience this is totally wrong.

I have had to live in fear of others who were bigger then me or trained in some kind of fighting skills or who simply had plenty of friends who would help them bully others.

I have passed up lucrative jobs because they would have been in situations where physical controntaton might be likely either from customers (knocking on doors to seell something for example) or from cowrokers (like in warehouse or construction where everyone spends their free time, thinking about how ‘tough’ they are and sizing everyone else up.

If I were a Blackbelt in some martial arts I woudl not have had that fear and I would have been able to take some of those jobs which in turn would have led to a much better life then I have now.

I was also bullied in school and I am no skileld fighter but I have learned a couple of moves since then and if I knew as a kid what I know now I could have beat those bullies and again my whole life would be very different and far better.

Anyone who thinks fighting skills have nothing to do with self confidence or can’t help stop bullying has no clue, as to what they are talking about.

These subjects are usually talked about, in the abstract.

How about some examples of such ‘insensitivity’ and a concrete

remedy to fix it?

When those in Washington pass restrictive laws they are not thinking about following the 7 Noachide laws or concerned with Torah at all.

Also Torah does not talk about seatbelts so who gets to decide what is ‘dangerous’.

I think it is extremly dangerous for any smaller then average child to attend public school as the law requires becaus ethe bullies gravatat toward those they most easily abuse and the abuse sometimes turns deadly as in a case in NYC a few years ago where some bully punched another kid and killed him with one punch.

Others simply keep punching till they achieve their desired damage to their helpless victims.

SO if are going to use Torah to say dangerous things should be outlawed that woudl require keeping small children out of public shcools and possiblys huttimng them down altogether not just because of bullying but drug dealing (and I am talking about dealing on bahalf of the teachers who demand kids be doped up on Ritalin which affects the same brain centers and cocaine).

Also what about laws that have nothing do with danger such as all the unconstitutional animal ‘rights’ laws?

I can only guess, but to the best of my guessing, from what I remember learning and trying to extrapolate from my memories of what I think I learned, was that Moshe recieved the Luchos and both the written and Oral Torah from Beresheis up to the arrival at Her Sinai, and it was all taught to him while he was up there for 40 days.

The Oral Torah would have been straightforward, not so much like we have today.

The Yerushalmi is a bit more like the way it was origionally, as far as my extremly limited understanding, seems to tell me.

Today; Since the time it was written down, some had been forgotten and some parts were remembered one way while someone else remembered it differently so all the versions were put into the final written version.

Parts that were missing or that did not seem to cover details (because people did not remmeber how to understand the details from the main text) had to be discussed and argued over, untill someone finally said “this is the decision” and from that, eventually came the Shulchan Aurich.

As Klal Yisroael were in the dessert for 40 years, it would seem to me that H-sh-m continued to dictate to Moshe, more of the Torah as it unfolded up till his time of Nifteros, came.

After this Joshuah I believe, finished the Sefer Torah, and it was then complete.

I tried Help for Alligators, once and did not like it.

I thought Poweraid, tasted better though all drinks are ruined because of the citric acid they put in to make it ‘tart’ which means nothing is really ever sweet, anymore.

If I wanted tart, I’d drink lemonaid.

jewishandworking22 you are proving my point.

When Rabbonim dissagree each person or community dfollows on particular Rav.

What that Rav tells his congregation is very black and white.

I have never in history heard of any Rav say to anyone “There is no Psak on this Halachic Sheila, so you can do or not as you please because it’s a grey area”.

When it comes down to a pask “What should I do in this situation” There is always either a pask what you shopuld do in black and white or you are told to go to another Rav who knows more about that specialty and can give a black and white pask.

It might look “grey” the the Gemarra but we do not pasken from then Gemarra specifically for that reason, the final Halacha that each person needs from his Rav is totally back and white.

Where the Rabbonim come to decisions, they have sifted out the black from the white and told us what is right and what is wrong.

Part of the problem on this system is not just individual words that are offensive, but wording itself.

It can, and does, happen that regular words are strung together in very offensive ways such as making fun of others or making false accusations about them.

Sometimes the big label really is the highest quality, and I am not going to necessarily go out of my way to tear off the label.

But I am just as happy wearing whatever is the best quailty of what I need and like even when if it has no label at all.

I certainly have no desire to advertise any specific brand.

In fact if it seems too bold I actually feel I am calling too much attention to myself and might sometimes avoid the big label for that reason, especially if I can find comparable quality in something less showy.

Perhaps if a persons life is so wonderful that what they have to look for to focus on is politicians then it might look like a real problem.

But so someone who has been lied to and cheated pratcially from birth and can’t wiat to be dead. such things do not look like the biggest probelms..

In any case the outside politics are symptoms not causes of the problems.

Heuy jphone what is ‘tenuous’ about talking about sinas chinnom under a thread with Sinnas Chinnom in the title?

Also what makes you think you have the right to judge others and decide who is “making things up”.

I did not know anyone died and made you G-d.

And there is no ‘help’ available.

What people usually mean by “help” in that sense is psychiatric help which does absolutely nothing to pay rent for someone who has no money or helps in other situations whidch are purely physical problems having nothing to with mental problems.

If a holocaust survivor says these things (or much stronger) everyone ‘understands’ and no one dares tell them to “go get (psychiatric) help”.

But there is no point in talking about sinnas chinnom in city politics when there is so much that si so much closer to home.

itiswhatitis it’s a statement.

You said you were talking about older singles, so I said that is what I am.

Well I was taught in yeshivah that ahavas yisroael meant that someoe would do for any other Jew anything they would do for themselves and I have never in my life met anyone who would do that for me.

No, I’m not even talking about candidates necessarily, just regular

Jews like some I knew and who had their part in ruining my life.

Do we really ‘all’ have the ‘same’ basic interests?

shev143 absolutely not, I am not saying that one particular seminary/yeshiva/color or type of tablecloth, is the ‘one true right one’.

But I am saying that there is a right way to teach students, and that is the Torah way, anything else is wrong and there are no ‘grey’ areas to wonder if “Perhaps in this case (whatever case you want to talk about or think about), following Torah might not be so good”.

That idea is always wrong, and it’s is clear cut Black and White.