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DY -“Health, I don’t see how that’s relevant here.”
You don’t gain by hating anyone! You’re allowed to hate Reshoyim, but how do you know who is? Do you hate all Germans? The same thing with Arabs.
DY – “We are supposed to hate some people.”
And what does Tosphos say? Look it up. I remember that Gemorrah.
On what grounds? This ain’t NY.
Oot for life -“Just a point of historical correctness. Reform came first then Conservative was a breakaway from them. I believe the various others (and there are some weird ones out there) broke off of conservative”
That was then, when people had guilty feelings for going off the Derech. Nowadays they only go downwards!
I know of a MO Shul in the West Side where they allow a Woman’s Minyun.
Avram – “(two of which were previously Orthodox shuls, and one still uses the term “modern Orthodox” instead of Open Orthodox)”
Maybe we should denounce MO because it could lead to OO? This is what happened with the Reform movement – first they were Orthodox, then Conservative, then Reform, then Reconstructive.
It’s better to be Tinuk Shnishbah – then all these things that aren’t Frum!
Syag – “kaballa”, the madonna kind”
Don’t knock Madonna – if she keeps the 7 Mitzvahs, she goes to Olam Habah. I can’t say that about every Jew.
Mr. Yidd – “snake charmer? “
I once saw a real charmer. It’s very cool. Did anyone else see one? No sarcasm, please.
Eclipse – “I’ll have a perfect fellow
Who to my flaws is blind”
Now the question is – you want somebody to overlook your flaws, will you do the same for him?
SL – “Probably whatever would need changing to prolong those lives”
And how would you do that?
eclipse – “Titus is dead”
Murderer! I’m reporting you to PETA.
Sam 2 – How do you know so much about YU – when you live in Vegas?
Eclipse -“Health: unacceptable, you are right,but that is not the fine print exception in the kesuba. When I think of some of the leaders in my case Yiftach comes to mind…shecht a woman and think its a mitzvah”
People don’t know – there are a lot of exceptions to a Kesubah. That’s why we need Rabbonim. I feel bad that you weren’t exposed to the Ehrlich ones!
Jazar – “You made it sound like prenups are a made up idea by conservatives not actually a valid document according to sephardim”
FYI – This website is basically for Yeshiva people – so my comments are towards them! So I do use my words carefully.
eclipse – “From experience…..a mentsch would honor the kesuba or a fair verbal agreement….the other types won’t honor anything,written,or not.”
The reason some men don’t honor the agreement, is because the wife doesn’t honor it in the first place! Eg. not sending the kids for his parenting time.
Jazar – “I hope you change your approach to these different halachik and hashkafic issues and realize that legitimate poskim disagree with you BUT THAT IS OKAY!!!!”
All I wrote was “Practically No Litvish or Chassidish Rabbis believe in prenups!
So if you’re in this classification, there is No argument.”
So if you’re Sefardi, you should listen to your Rabbi. If not, my quote above applies!
Jazar – “Do you realize that Rav Ovadia Yosef and Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg both approve of the prenup. They are not small Rabbanim or MO. Just accept the fact that there is a machloket and please stop pretending like your opinion is the only valid one.”
From page 1:
“Rabbi Gedalia Dov Shwartz is definitely MO. You seem to assume that just because he is a talmid chochom and a well regarded posek, he must not be MO”
Practically No Litvish or Chassidish Rabbis believe in prenups!
So if you’re in this classification, there is No argument.
Sam 2 – “Of course R’ Moshe was against all prenups. The only prenups that existed in his time told you to go to Conservative Batei Din.”
If you believe in prenups, you should go to a Conservative Bais Din. MO’s are more & more sounding like Conservative Jews!
ZD – “In general the new custom in the US it to put a Pumpkin or some other Halloween symbol on your doorstep so people know to go to that house and if there is no symbol kids are supposed to go to another house with it.”
I guess the Goyim on my block don’t know that Din! I’m one of the few blocks in Lakewood that we are the only Jews on the block.
CA -Idk, why give junk candy? We gave regular candy.
ARWSF – You haven’t posted in awhile. Like I told you a few years ago – I’m also divorced. Do you get child support and/or government programs? You need to hire a financial advisor – ASAP!
Tell them, but only do it during the time that they’re doing something wrong!
DY – “Okay, I admit it. I am Health.”
Please DY, don’t make jokes! These zionists will believe it. I live in Lakewood & you live in Brooklyn? Anyways your posts are much nicer than mine.
Avi K -“Health, YAWN.”
Is this referring to me? Btw, I don’t personally care if s/o goes up, just you should know – you’re putting your life in danger. Did you ever hear of a guy named Glick?!?
Plumber – “It’s uncommon for a woman to smoke because they would have to give it up for a pregnancy”
Any woman who’s addicted to smoking, hardly gives it up for pregnancy. It’s obvious that you’re not in the medical field.
Sam 2 – “Health: You can’t call a few weeks constant. If it’s daily for a few weeks but then goes away, that qualifies as “sporadic”. Just like every other spike of violence in history.”
Now you’re a Novi; how do you know how long the Terror will continue?!?
Zionism is a constant failure, no matter how many believe in this Avodah Zorah!
ROB – “health: a few weeks in the span of close to seventy years is, by definition,sporadic”
You’re trying to confuse e/o. Let’s go back – you made a comment on my post. No one posted anything that remotely resembles what your saying. No one posted whether from the beginning of the Medina till now, whether Terror is sporadic or constant! Please don’t confuse the posters. I guess you’re used to it – Zionists have confused people for over a hundred years now.
ROB – “I find it comforting that you support Meir Kahana HY’D. he was an ardent Zionist.”
I was only supporting him in what I posted. His solution was viable for Israel, but not the only one!
ROB – “Health: You will find it very difficult to show me that there has been constant attacks every day in every week in every month in every year since the establishment of israel…Hence sporadic is equally apt for Israel now.”
I was talking about the last few weeks. – “Any terror before the Medina was sporadic, Not daily.” What made you think I was talking from the beginning of the Medina?!?
ROB – “Health: do you know what sporadic means? check out its meaning and you will see that it applies to today also.”
From Merriam-webster: “not constant or steady”
In Israel today there is constant Terror!
“And I have no idea what the pullout from lebanon and gaza”
Israel has made the situation there even worse then it was 20 – 30 years ago! They keep on living in their dream world. The policies have caused the death of many Jews. Either give it all to them or get rid of all of them, like Kahane.
allusernamestaken – “As I’ve stated before, war and terror were the norm in Eretz Yisrael long before Zionism came into the picture.”
Your statements are not accurate, in fact the’re blatant lies!
Any terror before the Medina was sporadic, Not daily.
“The difference is that today we have a far greater ability – and therefore responsibility – to limit the bloodshed.”
So why don’t they?!? You’re living in your Zionist dreamland. They pulled out of Lebanon, the West Bank & GAZA. How many missiles were shot from GAZA when Israel had it!
They don’t even have the death penalty – for anyone!
ROB -“Health: do you sometimes read what you write? Herbert Samuel is long gone and israel independent and prosperous. Would that not be a sign that HKBH wants the “zionist entity” to succeed?”
You believe success is dependent on “israel independent and prosperous” and I believe success is in freedom of worship & safety from terror! Isn’t this a sign that Hashem doesn’t want the “zionist entity” to succeed?!?
Avi K- ” The fault lies not with the Zionists, who were Hashem’s tools as Rav Kook says, but with the Mufti ym”s and Sir Herbert Samuel, who appointed him despite the fact that he finished last behind three Nashashibi candidates”
From your posts you seem to believe Hashem wanted the Zionists to succeed, now I’ve a question for you. Samuel the Jew, created the antisemitism in Israel – why??? I think this was Hashem telling us he didn’t want the Zionists to succeed!!!
Sam 2 – “Health: You can keep on repeating it, but that doesn’t make it true. Arabs and Muslims were killing us for 1000 years. Sure, there were times of relative peacefulness. Just because one of those short periods of relative peace was Israel in the early 1900s doesn’t mean that it would have lasted, at all. Just like every other time of relative “peacefulness” in history.”
You’re right, nothing lasts forever, but at the turn of the last century – Arabs got along with Jews before the Zionists came along! And the Zionists made life much better for Jews. Since ’48, there is no more terror, no more wars!
“Just like we had times of relative peacefulness with Christian neighbors throughout the centuries. That doesn’t mean that we still weren’t slaughtered and attacked often. We were.”
You’re right again. So when are you & your family moving out of the USA? You never know when the Goyim will make a Pogrom here.
Israel is so much safer then the Western world!
ROB -“health: quotes from “old residents of jerushalaim” are very suspect. They are not subject to any verification. And- to say that “they had maintained cordial relations before the impending creation of the Jewish state’ is ridiculous.”
The only thing that is suspect – is the Zionist lies! When did you start believing them?!? In your childhood?
My grandparents lived in Palestine during the early 1900 hundreds’ and they confirmed that statement. And when I was learning in EY – I met a Yerushalmi & he told me the same thing! He also said that Jordan had no problem with Jews visiting the Kosel.
allusernamestaken – ” How about we make it illegal to be ????? ?? ?? ????”
I agree! The creation of the state & their policies have created the atmosphere we have today – that terror is the norm all the time in Israel!
Avi K – “KJ, the Mufti ym”s was born in 5657 so he could not have had any relationship with Jews prior to the impending creation of a Jewish state.”
Stop with the Zionist propaganda!
This is the truth as quoted from KJ: “Years ago, it was still easy to find old residents of Yerushalayim who remembered the cordial relations they had maintained with the Mufti in the years before the impending creation of a Jewish State.”
DY – “We don’t have a Sanhedrin”
So it’s Not possible to keep the Torah – so we should support the anti- Torah agenda of the Israeli government?!?
We can’t make it illegal to be gay? We can’t make it illegal to drive on Shabbos?
The truth is according to the Torah, even if there is no Bais Din, you put the guy/gal in a Keepah!
Avi K – “Health, what relationship? If there was ever any chance it was destroyed by the Mufti ym”s and his corrupt heirs.”
Who brainwashed you that the solution to our Golus is the Medina?!?
There was a relationship with the Arabs in Palestine before ’48.
The Mufti’s antisemitism was due to the actions of your beloved Zionists!
HaKatan – You’ll never convince these Zionists. For ex.: “In 1033, Muslims murdered 6,000 Jews in Fez; in 1066, they murdered 4,000 in Granada”
They resort to proofs that happened hundreds of years ago! I was bringing proof during the time of the first WW. The antisemitic British & the Zionists have destroyed any relationship between Jews and Arabs in Palestine!
ROB – “health and HaKatan, are advocating dismantling the medinah”
That’s one of the choices, Not the only one! They can start by forcing e/o to keep the Torah. If a Goy didn’t or doesn’t keep the 7 Mitzvahs, he/she has to be dealt with.
Btw, s/o just told me that Tel Aviv is the most Gay friendly city in the world! There is No Kedusah with such a government that Israel has.
ROB – “If- G-d forbid- Israel cease to be independent, there will be murder mayhem that will make any intifada look like baby’ play. The picture of exodus of hundreds of thousands of Arabs fleeing their own brethren would be duplicated tenfold with Jews fleeing. It would be -G-d forbid!!- another Holocaust.”
Who says? You? Now you’re trying scare tactics!!
Sam 2 – “But Zionism was not the cause of the change of that. Arab nationalism changed things much more than Zionism did. It came about earlier and there was a significant uptick in attacks against Jews and outright massacres long before 19th century Zionism existed.”
My point was about Palestine. There was No Arab nationalism there. This changed because of Zionism & the antisemitic British. And all the reformed Jews (including living in the USA) think this is the life! That’s why most Freiyeh Yidden want to move OUT of Israel.
Avi K – “The contention that Jews lived in harmony with Arabs before the advent of Zionism is as nonsensical as the “nostalgic” Yiddish song about Romania.”
Stop with the Zionist brainwashing! I posted many times – Halacha – Eisav hates Yaakov. What I wrote many times – that they got along with the Arabs in Palestine before Zionism planted it’s evil routes there. Zionism is Not the answer to this Halacha!
ROB – “Health: your rhetorical question was: “how many jews were killed during the ottoman empire”. The Ottoman empire was founded over six hundred years ago and ended about a hundred years ago. Seems to me to be rather ancient history…..with absolutely no relevance to today…the twenty first century of the common era.”
My point was before the Zionists came to power the Jews got along with the Arabs! This was even until the 1920’s. All the Zionists did was destroy that relationship! Now we have thousands dead and thousands maimed.
ROB -“Health: who cares what happened in the Ottoman Empire hundreds of years ago?”
Stop with your Zionist lies!
“The Ottoman Empire:
Date dissolved: November 1, 1922″
My grandparents lived there (Palestine) and they always said how the Jews got along with the Arabs!
Sam 2 – “Health: I have no idea. Per capita, I’d guess the answer was under the Ottomans but I don’t have numbers and can’t prove it.”
Read what I wrote: In Palestine! No way it was under the Ottomans.
Sam 2 – “Health: Yeah. For many years and large chunks of time, Jews lived as more or less happy second-class citizens under the Ottoman Empire. Except for, you know, when every 50 years or so hundreds to thousands of Jews would be kicked out of their homes or massacred or raped or happy things like that.”
You still didn’t answer the question: – I’ll ask it again – for a third time: How many Jews were killed during the time of the Ottoman empire in Palestine and how many Jews were killed since the beginning of the Medina?!?
Sam 2-“So now we know the real source for Health’s Shittah. He just doesn’t know any history.”
Actually you & the Zionists have changed the history to benefit them. My grandparents lived in Palestine and even went to the Kosel. They got along fine with the Arabs.
I ask again – How many Jews were killed during the time of the Ottoman empire in Palestine and how many Jews were killed since the beginning of the Medina?!?
Avi K – “Health, 1. Rav Kook, Rav Tzvi Yehuda,Rav Avraham Shapira, Rav Shaul Yisrael.”
Those are not early Achronim!
“2. Why are you so eager to denigrate EY?”
It’s not Eretz Yisroel, but Israel!
“3. Moreover, Erdogan also has delusions of becoming a caliph and restoring the Ottoman Empire.”
This would be great! How many Jews were killed during the time of the Ottoman empire and how many Jews were killed since the beginning of the Medina?!?
Avi K -“Health, 1. WE do pasken like Ramban. So there!”
Name me one Achrone that says so!
“2. Erdogan has a record on anti-Semitism”
All Goyim hate Yidden. Tell me – which country are Jews stabbed every day – Israel or Turkey?!?