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DY – “I presumably have a full head of hair”
Male pattern baldness is based on hormones! I have it.
ubiquitin -“prevent them from coming – Health”
Actually I wasn’t going into the OP. (Even though I posted not to let them in.)
My point was that the government is not focusing on the way to deal with the issue! I posted previously -“What the Western World should do is to get rid of the problem in Syria & Iraq. Then they could go home.” They wouldn’t be refugees anymore!
Dbrim- “How absurd.”
You’re wasting your time arguing with these liberals! They only post what is PC, not what the reality is. Just take a look at the success Europe has had with their liberal policies. This includes immigration from Muslim countries!
Newbee – My previous post:
“They shouldn’t let them in! What is happening/happened in Europe will happen here. Even Trump is a liberal. What the Western World should do is to get rid of the problem in Syria & Iraq. No more pussyfooting around! Then they could go home.”
Do you agree with my post from before???
DY -“If coffee were dangerous, I would be dead.”
I said “could be”!
“To counteract that, I put fluids in mine.”
It depends how much fluids. Did you ever get SVT?
Blubluh -“There actually can be an unpleasant side-effect of too much coffee. Coffee – actually the caffeine – is, among other things, a laxative”
Coffee can be dangerous! It acts as a diuretic. Besides you can put yourself into SVT!
Coffee addict -“Yes to the IV”
Did you ever get SVT?!?
Sam 2 -“Mammele: That’s fair. Bringing them to America is probably the easiest way to do that, though”
They shouldn’t let them in! What is happening/happened in Europe will happen here. Even Trump is a liberal. What the Western World should do is to get rid of the problem in Syria & Iraq. No more pussyfooting around! Then they could go home.
Avi K – “Health, Stop with your anti-Zionist lies!”
What lies? Did you ever hear of the PA? What area do they control? They don’t control GAZA!
“You are correct that the withdrawals from Gaza and southern Lebanon (FYI, we still control Yehuda v’Shomron – I am, in fact, writing these lines in this area) were wrong but that was due to the venality of certain “leaders” – with the acquiescence of the “Chareidi” parties. In an any case, there is a mitzva to defend Am Yisrael (Rambam, Hilchot Melachim 5:1).”
So What?!?
“Moreover, a person who accepts the benefits of citizenship, such as welfare payments, must also accept the obligations of citizenship.”
This I agree with. Don’t take the Zionist money!
From Wikipedia: “The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law,[1][2][3][4][5] however Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law[6] because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War.[7] The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.”
Avi K – First let me just say I don’t find the picture repulsive, but I wouldn’t let my kids dress up like that.
“There is an obligation to be in the army in a milchemet mitzva – and we are in an ongoing milchemet mitzva with breaks.”
Stop with your Zionist lies! Even if there is a Mitzvah to conquer EY nowadays, the Israeli govt. & the IDF aren’t doing it. The proof is they gave up S. Lebanon & GAZA & the West Bank!
Sam 2 – “You are very right. I apologize profusely. Life was so much better for Jews under Nazi Germany than under Zionist rule, wasn’t it?”
Now you’re getting sarcastic! Chutzpah Yaski! This is what happens when you believe in Zionism – there are No answers!
ROB – “Health: Just one simple question; do you advocate the dismantling of the medinah?”
Why do you post to me – when you don’t read my posts?
That’s one of the options, not the only one!
Avi K -“Health, it’s better to be “shmaded up” in Yemen?”
Stop with your Zionist lies!
As far as I know, they remain Frum for thousands of years, even still now.
And Israel started in ’48 & a few years later, in the ’50’s, they were Shmading up the Yeminite Jews!
Sam 2 -“Health: Now you’re changing your track. Before you said they weren’t killed in Yemen. I just pointed out that’s not true. It’s okay to make a different argument, but don’t respond aggressively as if I wasn’t responding to your point. It’s just not a nice way to debate.”
Let me tell you something – I responded the way I did because you’re constantly defending Zionism & resort to lying! I posted previously – “Did you ever hear of Yemen and Iran? These have very strict Muslim rules, but the Jews there aren’t all enslaved or killed!”
I wrote “ALL”. So before you respond to me – think about it. This way your post’s will be rational!
Sam 2 -“Health: I mean, Jews were enslaved or killed in Yemen relatively often. You really need to learn your history.”
So it’s better to be Shmaded up in Israel?!? You really need to learn your history.
Avi K -“What about someone who thinks that it is better for Jews to besubject forced conversion to Islam as opposed to the chance that they will be be observant in EY (as are many Yemenites) and if not them their children or grandchildren?”
Again you’re in your Zionist dreamland. The Jews in Yemen weren’t & aren’t forced to convert. If they were, there weren’t be any Jews left there!
But in Israel – they were subjected to Shmad!
ROB -“There are about ten jews left in yemen, all the rest having fled.”
A good portion of them would have been better off staying there because the Zionists made them into Freye Jews! This is of course if you believe in Olam Habah.
“And just about every jew still living in iran wants to leave. yup- great examples!”
I know they want to come to Israel, so the Iranian Jews will become just like Yeminite Jews. And you say I’m delusional?!?
ROB – “Health-Have you ever heard of a country called Syria? How about Iraq? Libya maybe? how about, the territory of Gaza? All very peaceful, all of them very hospitable to faiths other than Moslem….aren’t they? And I heard that parts of Syria and Iraq were ruled by an entity that insists on conversion or slavery? A figment of my imagination, maybe?”
Let’s start with GAZA – it’s the Zionists fault what happened there! They were just like any other Arab living in Israel. But the Zionist government changed that!
Stop with your Zionist propaganda & lies!
Did you ever hear of Yemen and Iran? These have very strict Muslim rules, but the Jews there aren’t all enslaved or killed!
It’s not your figment of imagination, but your belief in the Zionist entity.
ROB – “Health: Your comments prove my point that you are delusional.”
I’m delusional? You’re the one that keeps posting -“it would be mass suicide to allow the Arabs to control eretz yisroel”.
That’s right – keep on with the Scare tactics. I guess this is how you get so many people to believe in Zionism. You & the other Zionists – don’t want them to think for themselves!
Avi K – “Health, I know a (Chareidi) rav who said that he was told by an elderly woman that the Turks kept order by grabbing an Arab every Fri and hanging him next to Shaar Shechem as a warning. Do you really want us to do that?”
IDK if it’s true, but even if it is – what’s wrong? The Israeli government won’t even hang Arab terrorists! Why do you support this government – because they give you money?!?
Avi K -“Forty years ago (after the great Zionist victory) a Jew could walk alone and unarmed in any Arab area because the Arabs, like almost everyone else in the world (and this is the fundamental problem the West has in dealing with ISIS) they thought that everyone thinks like them. They knew what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot c”v and they assumed that we would do the same so they feared Jews”
Stop with your Zionist lies! Please read the Torah and learn about Koach V’ozem Yudi.
My mother said the reason a person could walk in the Shuk forty years ago was because there was soldiers on every rooftop.
But my grandmother walked in the Shuk with no protection during the Ottoman empire control of EY!
ROB -“Whether it was better ten years ago or hundred years ago is irrelevant. Today- Hajom_ it would be mass suicide to allow the Arabs to control eretz yisroel.”
Says who? You?!? Prove it. Stop with your Zionist lies!
ROB – “you all live in a time warp. Whatever happened a hundred years ago with the Arabs has no relationship to today”
You’re right, it was much better then!
Here’s a Not joke: The Zionists have made living in EY – better & better – NOT!
40 years ago, even under Zionist rule, s/o could walk through the Arab Shuk and nothing happened. Nowadays, they even attack soldiers!
DY – “What do you think the Brisker Rov held? The Chazon Ish? Rav Shach? R’ Shlomo Zalman? The Steipler? R’ Elyashiv? Do you think they held everyone should leave?”
Ya-know I wasn’t talking to you! But I’ll answer you anyways. When you ask a question to a Godol it’s a specific one. Right now – Terrorism is rampant there, so those Gedolim are in Olam H’emes. You should know that!
Barry -“Heath: We were discussing the differences of Yeshiva Ketana’s and there is a major difference.”
Like I said before – “You didn’t go to the right Yeshivas”.
T.A. doesn’t cut it!
Assurnet -“I’m not a big buki on the sugiya but I remember hearing a deah that goes something along the lines of this”
You’re only a Buki in Zionism!
“- that the chiyuv of kivush ha’aretz still applies to today and since kivush involves making war which is inherently dangerous and often life threatening therefore with this mitzvah there is no inyan of v’nishmartem meod.”
So you’re admitting I’m right! I said you can’t keep V’nishmartem Meod in Israel.
Avi K -“Health, on the contrary, in Shmutz l’Aretz Jews commit “avoda zara in purity” (Avoda Zara 8a).”
Avi again you mixed me up with Hakatan. Do you have Dyslexia?!?
Jazar -“oh come on you know thats not true otherwise all of the rabbanim in israel would encourage people to leave.”
Did you ever ask a Godol? Did you ever speak to one in your whole life?
“Israelis have a higher life expectancy than Americans so on average you would actually live longer in Israel than America.”
Like we said before, those include mostly Goyim. Stop with Zionist propaganda!
Jazar -“so back to the original question why are more religious Jews not moving to Israel?”
Like I posted before – to keep the Mitzvah of V’nishmartem Meod Ess etc. – which you can’t do in Israel!
alcibiades -“Its impossible to say Tefillah 3 times a day and study Torah and not see that our spiritual potential can only be fulfilled in Israel. Anyone not living in Israel needs to do major reflection and major tshuva. I don’t care how frum you are in NYC, its nothing compared to living in Israel and striving to do all 613 mitzvot.”
I keep the Mitzvah of V’nishmartem Meod Ess etc. which you can’t do in Israel! Have you read the News recently? How about Today’s News?!?
DY -“Sure, because you personally like that extreme shittah, but not for any objective reason”
“I don’t have a problem with a Satmarer holding of R’ Yoel’s shittah or a Brisker of the Rov’s shittah”
“I do have a problem with someone who went to regular yeshivos dismissing the Chazon Ish’s shittah, which is pretty much accepted as normative”
How do you know what Yeshivas I went to?!?
Sam2 – “Are they gonna preside like a Rabbi? They could become the Rabbi of these all women Shuls, like they have in the West Side of NY, NY!”
Or are they gonna sit next to the Rabbi in these so-called Orthodox Shuls? You can’t say this is Conservative, because they still have a Mechezah, but only the Rabbinit is exempt!
DY -“I am not saying it is wrong because it is extreme, just that some people are attracted to extreme shittos for no objective reason”
So according to you – you can’t be objective – if you hold like them? So anyone who you disagree with must only be Noigah B’dovor. No one can argue with you, because they’ll always be wrong!
Avi K -“Health, you are incorrect chronologically and halachically.”
Says who? You!?!
“However, you are correct in the sense that after their opinion has been completely rejected there is nothing more to say on the issue”
Who rejected it? You!?!
Sam2 -“Smichah does not equal Dayanus.”
Ok. Are they gonna preside like a Rabbi? They could become the Rabbi of these all women Shuls, like they have in the West Side of NY, NY!
ZD – “The Brisker Rov is not the final Posek on the issue especially when Rav Shteinman and Rav Kanivesky hold differently”
For me – the Brisker Rov & the Satmar Rebbe are the final Poskim on the issue!
Avi K – “Health, Rav Eidelstein of Ponevich said that anyone who is eligible to vote and does not do so has no portion in Olam HaBa.”
I’m not arguing with him. He’s arguing with Gedolim; like the Brisker Rov!
ZD -“last I checked Rav Shteinman and Rav kanivesky voted. Do you know halacha better than they do?”
Who said I was Paskining? I was defining Zionism!
Assurnet -“I think you are mixing up loving and living in E”Y with zionism l’havdil. Just because someone chooses to live in Israel instead of moving to Chu”l does by no means classify them as a zionist. The Eida haCharedis operates out of Yerushalayim and is probably the biggest private kashrus hashgacha in the country… are you suggesting they are zionist?”
Anybody who votes or takes the Medina $ or goes to the IDF is a Zionist!
Barry – “Growing up in the States and going to Yeshiva, to see the level of learning the children have in Israel boggles the mind. There is no comparison. My only regret is that I didn’t raise my children in Eretz Yisroel, though most live here now.”
You see – you didn’t go to the right Yeshivas!
Yytz – “There are plenty of people who go off the OTD, rachmana litzan, “
Let’s say you’re right, that would be for kids, not for me. I’m not going OTD, so why should I be exposed to Avodah Zara? Nowadays when they are forcing the Charaidim into the Army, it’s a Shailah of Yeharog V’al Yavorr!
Joe – “Agree or disagree with which idea?”
“The implications of these posts is that you can hate all Arabs!”
Joe & DY – Hating all Arabs!
Avi K – “Today they are much more ignorant”
Wrong. The ones that went with Lapid were the RZ – the Mizrachi. They changed the law from the status quo. They claim they are Frum.
And there is No Milchemes Mitzvah, like I’ve seen you post previously!
BarryLS1 – “you persist in the outright lie that they are trying to destroy Torah. The original secular zionists no longer exist and even they funded Torah, for whatever their motivations were.”
In reality, they are still doing it! See CR title – “Torah vs. IDF – post #3”.
Joe – what about you – do you agree or disagree?
assurnet – “And as far as the gedolim listed that lived in Chu”l, I would venture to guess that most if not all of them chose to live there because of their communities that needed their guidance.”
So this is enough of a reason to be – ?? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?”? – I don’t think so! So there must be another reason(s). How about this one -“that zionism could be classified in our times as avodah zara”?!?
DY -“I don’t think that is the case. I don’t think, for example, that anyone hates the Arab who hid and protected the bochurim who got lost in an Arab village.”
So you’re agreeing with me or you’re using the exception to disagree?!?
DY -“I didn’t say all Arabs. I’m talking about the ones who want to kill us”
I must have confused you with other posters; like “How can we love them? Their goal is to kill us all.” “Some people do hate all Arabs, which is wrong. Some Arabs are Jewish, so it’s a lack of ahavas yisrael.”
The implications of these posts is that you can hate all Arabs!