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feivel -“Diphtheria no. Rare
Yet polio yes though also rare, highly contagious and frequently devastating outcome.”
“I left out an important principle. Diphtheria is treatable. Polio isn’t. Basically.”
I hate to point out, but you’ve posted previously that you practiced medicine as an eye doc. So what do you know about vaccinations?!?
Your opinions are illogical! The theory in medicine is that the benefits outweigh the risks.
Not giving these shots are against the Torah and is dangerous!
From the CDC:
“Diphtheria once was a major cause of illness and death among children. The United States recorded 206,000 cases of diphtheria in 1921, resulting in 15,520 deaths. Starting in the 1920s, diphtheria rates dropped quickly due to the widespread use of vaccines. Between 2004 and 2015, 2 cases of diphtheria were recorded in the United States. However, the disease continues to cause illness globally. In 2014, 7,321 cases of diphtheria were reported worldwide to the World Health Organization, but many more cases likely go unreported.
HealthParticipantAvram in MD -“If more physicians responded to their patients with patience, flexibility, compassion, and information rather than bullying, rigidity, putdowns, and fear mongering,”
I just got a good laugh. Most of the practitioners that I know aren’t like your portrayal! If yours’ is, how about going elsewhere?
“then the so-called “anti-vax” movement would hardly be the problem it is today.”
The reason that the “anti-vax” movement is so popular, is because our government is liberal. They gave into them – like watering down the vaccines!
HealthParticipantPBA -“Right, that is what your job is supposed to be,”
Granted there are some incompetent practitioners, but most are very competent. This includes the Frum ones!
“and what nobody believes you do anymore.”
Who doesn’t believe us? There might be some, but most believe in normative medicine. The proof is – there is a shortage of medical practitioners!
HealthParticipantPBA -“The lomdus is, that I am not confident someone is thinking about that, and specifically thinking about it in relation to MY kid rather than kids as a whole.”
You sound like a health – nut! The whole idea of us medical professionals, is that we treat patients individually. If it’s not good for that individual, we won’t do it or we’ll do something else.
HealthParticipantDY -“I assumed he was referring to the vaccination shots causing fever and the fever causing febrile seizures.”
So his Lomdus is – there is a small chance that the kid will get seizures, so it’s better not to vaccinate, even though it will most probably prevent the disease?!?
HealthParticipantDY -“Let’s say it’s correct, though.”
Even so, who says it was caused by the shot? Many kids get fevers after shots. Maybe they are febrile seizures?!?
HealthParticipantfeivel -“but I am sympathetic with their point of view.”
Why are you sympathetic with them?
Or is it because of medical knowledge that causes you to disagree with mainstream medicine?!?
HealthParticipantMW13 -“Can we all stop this stupidity now??”
No we can’t! Our government bought into the Anti-vaxxer’s theories. That’s why all of our vaccines are much weaker than they used to be!
HealthParticipantJoe -“newbee: It all depends on one’s personal perspective of what they’d rather seek as their goal: a higher level of spiritual comfort (rabbonim, rebbes , tzadikim, yeshivos, butei medrashim, minyanim, shiurim, tzedaka orgs, chesed orgs, etc.”
The implication is false! I know people who lived OOT and became or were Frum, but eventually these same people became Frey living in Lakewood.
HealthParticipantCharlie -“Not that anyone will care, as most commenters here have accepted the massive amounts of motzi shem ra against her, but a strong argument can be made that Clinton is the most conservative Democratic nominee since 1924”
She’s far left because she’s pro-Toaivah! How many democrats since 1924 believed in gay marriage?!?
“The Pew poll just showed approval of same sex marriage by 55% to 37%”
Another reason why you shouldn’t vote Demoncrat! Until 2010 most of the country was against gay marriage. With the advent of the liberal president, (Obama), things changed for the worse!
HealthParticipantBSlobodkin -“I try to wear a wool tallis katan, but I also own and wear talleisim ketanim made of cotton”
I wear the wool one during the winter & during the summer I wear cotton!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“And you seemed to be confusing the two Clintons a little?”
Not at all! Hillary supports things that aren’t marriages, like 2 two men together.
HealthParticipantThe phenomena of people who are Fakers, but they don’t realize it!
They think they are the Frummist of them all!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“So why is it okay for your neighbor’s daughter to marry Donald Trump but not for Hillary Clinton to be married to Bill Clinton?”
You can marry anyone you want. Hillary can stay married to Bill, but she is running for president. Like I previously, ” – “Who’s worse Clinton or Trump”? I said Clinton is worse! I’ll support Trump, because he’s better than Clinton.”
She supports alternative lifestyles!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Health, would you advise your neighbor’s daughter to marry him?”
Of course I would!
Btw, all my neighbors are Goyim, even though I live in Lakewood!
LOL 😀
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“I don’t get it, Health. Hillary Clinton can’t support Bill Clinton but you can support Donald Trump?”
You read my posts under “Who’s worse Clinton or Trump”? I said Clinton is worse! I’ll support Trump, because he’s better than Clinton.
I’m not going to marry him, even if the libs make it the law in the whole country!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are almost the same person!”
Right, and they both have Jewish son-in-laws. But Trump’s son-in-law is Frum & Clinton’s son-in-law married a Goy!
HealthParticipantFeivel -“Nowadays that’s a centrist. Pretty much a generally accepted attitude. If this dive isn’t halted …”
Right now – she’s very left wing. Most of the country doesn’t believe in Gay marriage! If the left gets into power, they will push their liberal agenda on the rest of us!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“The Clintons and the Trumps are two sides of the same coin.
What Donald did shows bad character”
No one is saying Trump is a Tzaddik. But if you compare Hillary and Trump, Trump is way better! Hillary has no self-respect!
How could she stand by & support that philander Billy Boy?!?
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Marrying a pretty model, and then finding another and divorcing the first as soon as she starts aging?”
Obviously you don’t know the Dinim of marriage by Goyim!
How about getting some Torah knowledge?
HealthParticipantCTLAWYER -“The USA is a wonderful place for Jews who choose not to live in EY. The protections we have are because of liberal changes to the status quo.
I have been discriminated against because of religion LEGALLY before 1964″
Unfortunately discrimination is still rampid, just they learned to hide it better!
“I don’t want any part of a gay marriage for myself, BUT I support extending civil rights and opportunities to all US citizens without discriminating on the basis of sexual preferences. Civil marriage is a contract between 2 adults and it gives certain tax and other benefits. It has nothing to do with religious marriage and the accompanying rules.”
I don’t know how religious or knowledgeable you are, but believing that causes destruction of the world! Some say the flood in the Bible came about because Gays made Kesubos (marriage contracts) one with another!
HealthParticipantZD -“There will not be Frei jews during the time of Moshiach”
I didn’t say there would be! Reread my post. Those that are Frey now will be the Zevulon.
HealthParticipantZD -“They could just leave for example.”
No – they could not! You should read my posts before you respond. I was talking during the time of Moshiach.
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Trump has no respect for marriage at all!”
Actually he keeps the Torah version of marriage!
Do you know what that is?
HealthParticipantZD -“everyone is going to want to be Yissachar”
I don’t think so, especially the ones who are Frey nowadays!
HealthParticipantCTLAWYER -“she is a Centrist who is preaching to Liberal Dems to offset Sen. Sander’s appeal. I am a Liberal and she is far to the right of my philosophy”
Stop with the lies! You’re calling her a Centrist and she wants Gay marriage?!?
HealthParticipantZD -“The charedim will be forced to get jobs”
Not now! Not ever! Even after Moshiach, didn’t you ever hear about Yessocher & Zebulon?
HealthParticipantThere won’t be a state when Moshiach comes!
HealthParticipantYY -“One doesn’t eat dandelion flowers.””But if you give a woman flowers then it’s not going to be clutter because the flowers are going to die soon anyway.”
When they wilt, then you can eat the flowers!
HealthParticipantMw13 -“Then give her dandelions.”
That won’t solve the problem! As you can see – they are edible.
HealthParticipantEV -“Hillary will be indicted, so the real question is will it be Bernie or Trump.”
Even if she is – Pres. Obama will pardon her.
So it will be Hillary or Trump!
HealthParticipantCharlie -“All the factcheckers have consistently found that Clinton is mostly truthful”
Well – would she be truthful that she caused the death of Americans, including an Ambassador to Libya?!?
HealthParticipantCTlawyer -“It doesn’t matter if the Secy of Defense knew of the danger or not”
It does matter – therefore the blame lies with Hillary!
HealthParticipantROB -“By the way, you are totally wrong about my political leanings- I am a proud conservative and would have supported any CONSERVATIVE candidate. Mr . Drumpf is NOT a conservative”
Whatever you are – why would you pick Hillary over Trump?
Trump has some accomplishments in life – has Hillary any?!?
HealthParticipantROB -“Health: All we have to know about your ideas is YOUR statement: “we’d need a guy like Putin”. Right. Exactly what those angry Germans said in 1933. We need guy like Adolf! Enough said abut your ideas..”
You libs don’t understand why a Hitler can stand up! The regular taxpayers are fed up with liberal policies. We need a guy like Putin who fights against Liberalism.
How does supporting Gays & Abortion, etc. help the rest of the country?!?
What does ROB, Lakewood, Satmer all have in common?
I’ll give you a hint -“Hillary”.
HealthParticipantFeivel -“also cannot be refuted. Here it is: “!””
What is the reason you left eye medicine & became an English teacher?
Ya’see – I used “an” instead of “a”!!!!!!!!
HealthParticipantROB -“And, last time I looked, it was Mr. Drumpf who was extolling the greatness of that great Democrat=Vladimir Putin”
As a matter of fact – I’ve recently spoken to a few Goyishe conservatives and they agreed that Trump won’t be able to change the way the country is going; we’d need a guy like Putin!
Do you think, like all libs, that morality is Not important?!?
HealthParticipantCatch yourself -“Was his Cheshbon “Krum”?”
No, but DY case is a Krumme Cheshbon! Better to close down the so-called Shul, than leave it the way it is.
This is true in many walks of Frum life. I can’t be more specific because of LH, among other reasons!
HealthParticipantDY -“The rav’s cheshbon might be that they’re better off in his shul talking, where he can perhxos have a positive influence on them in other areas, than on the streets, or forming their own minyan with no guidance whatsoever.”
Most Krumme Cheshbon I’ve ever heard!
HealthParticipantDa Moshe -“I wrote a while back about a shul I davened at in Brooklyn”
I know of a Shul in Flatbush – that the Rov kicked out most of the people who Davened there, about 15 – 20 years ago. They were talkers!
Most Shuls won’t do that because they need the Mispallim’s money!
The place is more or less empty, but the Rov is independent wealthy.
HealthParticipantMoi Aussi -“Can’t we hope for a third independent party to join the race?”
Maybe you?!? One of the reasons some are going for Hillary – is because she’s female. You could get those votes!
HealthParticipantROB -“Remember who was the last “national socialist” leader…..Trump loves his book.”
Stop comparing Trump to Hitler!
Hillary can’t protect us against terrorism or Nukes!
You’re a born Socialist/Communist even if it destroys our country!
HealthParticipantYekke2 – What I wrote there has nothing to do with this topic! Even if it’s true.
HealthParticipantAvi K -“Health, for your time you get the wage of someone who guards a zucchini garden (???? ???????) – minimum wage.”
He hasn’t even offered anything! And I did try looking for it. Let him try looking in the Aggadata of those Gemorras.
HealthParticipantSam2 -“Health: Pay you to tell me? If you knew Gemara you’d know that it’s Assur to take money for teaching Divrei Torah like that.”
It’s only Assur to take money for teaching you Torah. I’m charging for my time!
“But I’m only being arrogant if I’m wrong.”
And you are! I told you it’s a Gemorra & where it is.
HealthParticipantSam2 -“I can guarantee, though, that there is no Gemara in Pesachim that says that Eretz Yisrael will be the whole world and I am pretty sure (can’t quite guarantee it, though) that there is no such Gemara in Sotah.
It’s not about being haughty or arrogant”
The arrogance is that you wrote – that there is No such Gemorra! I told you which Masectah it is in. If you want the exact Daf, go ask your Rabbi in YU, or pay me to tell you.
HealthParticipantAvi K -“BTW, Health, Zionism is part of Judaism.”
Not the way the Zionist’s nowadays practice it. That’s Avodah Zora!
HealthParticipantSam2 -“Health: I do know (some) Gemara. I can’t 100% guarantee it, but I would be willing to strongly wager (yes, yes, Sanhedrin 23b and Rosh Hashana 22(ish), etc.) that there is no such Gemara anywhere in Talmud Bavli”
How old are you? Stop being so haughty! I’ll give you a hint – it’s either in Pesachim or in Soteh.
HealthParticipantI think Simcha613 replaced his Judaism with his Zionism!
HealthParticipantSam2 -“Where do you get that from? Eretz Yisrael won’t be the whole world.”
And I thought you knew Gemorra. Kedusha EY will be Mispashet in the whole world!
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