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benignuman -“There is a difference between “justified” and “excusable”.”
I just looked into both recent shootings! The one in Charlotte NC was definitely justified!
A gun was found at the scene corroborating the cop’s story.
In Oklahoma, they just charged her with manslaughter.
This is a violation of her civil rights! The shooting was probably justified and certainly excusable! He probably was high on drugs. He didn’t follow any of her orders and he tried reaching into the car.
The fact that the window was closed could not have been detected from her vantage point!
Almost all news sites don’t show the video from the chopper at the point of him trying to reach into the car!
Now in this day and age, I wouldn’t be surprised if cops start waiting for back up, before responding! So much on relying on their protection! But don’t worry – you can still buy guns to protect yourself, until the libs make guns illegal!
The inmates are running the asylum!!!
HealthParticipantAbba-S -“The point I was trying to make is that if health professionals wouldn’t listen to a quarantine order in the case of Ebola which is deadly, why do you think an ordinary person will comply with a quarantine order for the common cold?”
And the point I was making, if that person would’ve infected others, they would’ve quarantined them against their will!
I don’t think that a person should be quarantined for the common cold!
Where did you get that idea – it definitely wasn’t from me!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Typical Republican’t to count the Huffington Post as a source when arguing.”
Stop with your foolish posts! It has nothing to do with the Huffington Post – I just used them to show the history! Investigate yourself and you’ll see everything in that part of the article is true!
HealthParticipantYY -“unarmed blacks as it is cops shooting them. There have been black cops involved in some of the other cases as well — Freddie Gray comes to mind. As I believe RebYidd hinted, it’s also possible for black cops to be biased against blacks”
Your Liberalism keeps shinning through! This whole thing of BLM is based on a falsehood! Cops aren’t trained to treat blacks any different than whites!
Yes, a lot of them aren’t armed, but their killing almost always is justified!
Thanks for bringing up F. Gray, the government went after the cops because it was PC!
We can all thank the voters who put in Mr. Obama, because there hasn’t been as much friction in race relations since the ’60s!
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“The burden of proof isn’t on you for this one, but I’m waiting for you to prove your previous statement!”
“and everything to do with the Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues”
I can’t prove that the reason of the delay in the 80’s was because it wasn’t PC, but I can prove that your statement is false!
From the Huffington Post:
Even by ’93, if they would’ve passed Helm’s legislation, that would have prevented a lot of people coming down with AIDS!
HealthParticipantFFG – So what? – go on.
HealthParticipantAbba-S -“Was anyone prosecuted? I don’t think so. All you are going to do is create a law that is unenforceable resulting in a breakdown of law and order.”
That’s because they didn’t spread it! The quarantine was just a precaution!
Ever hear of Typhoid Mary?!?
HealthParticipantYidd23 -“Health, it had nothing to do with PC, which is a made up Republican’t term, and everything to do with the Republican’ts not being able to handle real issues”
Prove it! S/O posted President Reagan was senile – so he wasn’t running the show! Whoever was – let AIDS run amok because of the PC!
HealthParticipantFFG -“Unless you’re talking about cdiff,”
“PMC is treated with Vanco or/& Flagyl”
Now what do you think PMC stands for?!?
HealthParticipantYY -“What attack? I stated facts. You have called people DemonCrats dozens, maybe even hundreds of times. Trump’s name-calling is all over the place.”
You might have stated facts, but what revelence is there to the topic?!?
“Also, it’s disingenuous to associate attacks (and lack of logic) with only liberals. These days it seems to be woven into practically all political discourse. Think of Trump’s performance in the Republican debates — back when you presumably supported one of the other candidates”
You might be right, but it’s way more common with the DemonCrats than with Trump!
HealthParticipantAbba-S -“But can a sick person be quarantined in the USA and what is the process?”
Yes, they can! Ever hear of Typhoid Mary?!?
They should’ve quarantined the first cases of AIDS – then millions of people wouldn’t have died or come down with the disease!
This is what happened when our country put PC before life!
HealthParticipantYY – “That’s typical MO of liberals! They don’t respond with logic, only with attacks!”
You just proved this – with your next post:
Unlike Donald Trump and Health”
HealthParticipantYY -“Health, why do you assume that those who criticize the Republican Party are liberals?”
It was a simple assumption, because you didn’t criticize them on the issues, but implied that they’re racists!
That’s typical MO of liberals! They don’t respond with logic, only with attacks!
HealthParticipantGoq -“Health I am not a democrat I am conservative but I don’t feel that those whose opinions differ from mine politically deserve to be ostracized. I think their views are wrong but I don’t demonize the person.”
That’s nice!
HealthParticipantYY -“Ben Carson didn’t stand a chance to become president because the Republicans won’t nominate a black for at least another 50 years. That is, if the Republican party is around for the next 50 years”
What are you – a DemonCrat?!? Always pushing the liberal agenda!
It’s funny how so many Americans fall for the liberal lies!
Maybe once upon a time, Americans were racists against blacks, now the real racists are the libs!
They’re constantly pushing their liberal agenda! Soon they’ll make a law stating that Yeshivas (males) will have to have openly Gay men!
If you don’t think this will happen soon, you’re in a dream world!
Just look at all the discrimination laws they’re pushing for!
Abortion used to be illegal!
The Frum people voting DemonCrat, are making a big mistake!
Hopefully the DemonCrat party won’t be around for the next 50 years and will just be written as a bad memory in American history books!
HealthParticipantAny black that doesn’t agree with the liberal policies of most blacks is labeled -“Uncle Tom”!
That’s why Dr. Ben Carson didn’t have a chance to become the president!
That’s why our President named Obama is very popular amongst blacks!
HealthParticipantAsh -“They paint themselves as a Satmar-like anti-Zionist chareidi kehillah and chassidus when in fact they share as much with chareidim as Jews for J.”
I watched the video on YWN. Jews for J are Jews. I saw the video from Guatemala – a lot of the cult members looked like Goyim!
HealthParticipantI’m not Some Common Sense. – Get yourself your own SN. It’s not that difficult to get one YWN!
“MRSA? Two antibiotics? I can think of six! Which two are you thinking of?”
I didn’t make myself clear – sorry. I was thinking about pneumonia.
MRSA pneumonia is treated with Vanco &/or Zyvox.
PMC is treated with Vanco or/& Flagyl.
HealthParticipantSome common sense -“Everyone makes mistakes; the question is how serious and how permanent. Everyone – doctors, nurses, technicians, pharmacy – makes mistakes, everyone”
Now you got my drift! I don’t know why you needed your whole Droshoh!
You mentioned vancomycin – there’s a good reason to give it. It and one other drug is used for MRSA.
Now phenytoin (Dilantin), I’m at a loss, why it’s still prescribed.
There are so many better AE’s!
HealthParticipantWTP -“But Health, how is the pharmacist supposed to know who is the competent one and who is not? Even if the incompetent are only, say, 1% – that is still a huge amount of potential error, especially for those whose Dr happens to be in that 1%. Isn’t it better to have the extra check in place? And even competent people can make mistakes.
And as you said, you are checking up on the pharmacist. Better to waste the Dr’s time, and the pharmacist’s time, then to harm a patient!”
You’re correct! My point was that e/o can make mistakes! She/he was saying that the pharmacists’ are the bottom line of protection to the public! It’s a group effort for the public to get better when they’re sick! Not one segment of health professionals!
HealthParticipantBorrower of Common Sense -“Rest assured, your prescriptions undergo a through review before you get them.”
Your whole post is a joke! Your implication that you have to check up on us is ridiculous! Granted there are a lot of incompetent practitioners, but not all of us.
Today I had to waste my time because the pharmacy got mixed up between two meds beginning with the letter P.
HealthParticipantDovrosenbaum -“Gov’t interference was never good for us.”
You can’t have both ways! If you Shnorr from them, they’re going to interfere!
HealthParticipantDovrosenbaum -“We don’t want government interference.”
And why not?
“I don’t think anyone should be going after this kehila.”
Why not?
“Their ways may seem extreme to us, but what can we do about it?”
Remove the kids from the neglect & abuse!
HealthParticipantSome common sense -“I don’t think that any prescriber tries to be incompetent no matter how it may seem to other people. But enough trivialities.”
No one tries to be incompetent!
“Health – my comment was simply that neither group is incompetent. Each try to do their best but make mistakes.”
And my comment was that both groups have incompetent practitioners!
HealthParticipantMammele -“I actually mentioned that not “only frum” people will get custody. It likely won’t be either or, but a mix.
And of course there’s the logistical issue of finding so many matching foster families at once.”
You keep contradicting yourself! The government has to go looking for parents, if the Frum people approach them and these parents meet government approval, they wouldn’t have to go looking! It’s very unlikely that they’ll be given to Freye parents. Unless no Frummer want them!
“So I’ll repeat, in most instances it’s best for the kids to stay with their parents, but provide help to the parents”
So I’ll repeat, in almost all instances, it’s best for the kids Not to stay with the parents that belong to this cult!
HealthParticipantMammele -“Health: There’s no way only frum people will get custody. Too many BTs with non frum families involved.”
No one can force anyone to have custody!
Usually it’s a fight between parents. Your assumption that only Frei people will take them is false! Governments have a hard time getting anybody to take them! Because it costs a lot of money to raise children and who wants to do it when it’s s/o else’s kids?!?
So once the government removes the kids, the Frumme can offer taking them in!
HealthParticipantMammele – After your conversation with Joe, it leaves very little option! The only option I see, is that the respective governments’ take the kids away and the Frum communities volunteer to be Foster parents and/or for adoption!
HealthParticipantYichusdik -“Rhetoric is important to win elections. Also, to whip up fear, to help win elections.”
There’s nothing wrong with it, as long as it’s based on the truth!
“But Terrorists, radical Islamic especially, aren’t beaten by a fearful or mob-mentality ruled populace. They are beaten by relentless pursuit, by the resilience of an uncowed, unbent, and unbeaten populace, and by an utterly ruthless policy of pursuing the terrorists wherever they are.”
That’s true! I believe Trump is more probable to do that, than Hillary! Hillary will just continue the liberal policy of Obama!
She won’t be able to protect us from Terrorism!
HealthParticipantYichusdik -“The gullibility of people to fall for, and worse, pass on, the propaganda from both sides without using the brain HKBH gave them is astonishing. The proliferation of partisan websites and the click-bait they use, the fear-mongering they employ, and the ruthlessness of their persistence is actually frightening.”
Unfortunately you’d be right, if it was Trump against, let’s say Mexicans, but not against Muslims!
We have a very serious problem since 9/11 with radical Islam!
This isn’t fear-mongering, but the reality!
We just had 3 terror attacks and the DemonCrats are in denial!
The only one that I trust that is willing to deal with this threat, is Mr. Trump!
HealthParticipantMammele -“I don’t think even ARWSF would advocate taking the children away from their parents. As we are Rachmanim bnei Rachmonim we really have to get the leadership away first, and then work with the families to get them the help they need. It’s not just the kids that are suffering — although they are the most vulnerable.”
You might be right about the adults, but the kids come first!
“These children have a very hard time adjusting to the real world, and uprooting them from the families they love will make the adjustment almost impossible. However, if the PARENTS are actually guilty of abuse and neglect OF THEIR CHOOSING (not by simply being there) there is probably no choice but to get their kids into heimish, vetted foster care”
You probably live in some sort of seclusion!
They take Frum kids away all the time! But if people put up a fight, the government will try to put them in a Frum environment!
Leaving the kids to be neglected and abused is not a choice!
HealthParticipantJoe -“If the government kidnaps their children, you can be dang sure they aren’t going to place them “into heimish, vetted foster care”. They will bring them up like goyim.”
Stop with your fear mongering!
HealthParticipantJoe -“DY: I still think Trump is the lesser of the two evils and he would be less bad than Clinton. But, yes, I think it is very unlikely he’ll win. It’s a question of whether he’ll lose a close election or lose in a landslide.”
Actually if the terrorist attacks continue, he has a good chance of winning! There have been three attacks in the last two days!
DemonCrats are trying their hardest to white wash them, like DeBlasio!
We’ll see how much they can fool most Americans!
HealthParticipantMammele -“Health: if you wanted to make that point, this was the wrong thread to do so, and sends the wrong message.”
Is this topic good enough for you?
“Yad L’achim rescues women and children THAT WANT TO BE RESCUED. Unfortunately, most of the cult members are brain-washed and want to stay where they are. Those that want to leave, have gotten and most likely will get help to do so, especially if they have supportive family on the other side. I agree more should be done though.”
So you’re saying it’s up to them – we’ll let them do what they want!
As a matter of fact, let’s get rid of all child protection services in
all the Western countries because we should let the parents do what they want!
“That truth seeker has not seen hunger on a child’s face in a first world country where there is no excuse for that, except for some false prophets’ claim, that, EVERYTHING is Treif except flour, oil and salt.”
If they want to treat their kids’ like this – we should let the parents do what they want!
HealthParticipantMammele -“Health: bringing up Helbrans here is quite underhanded.”
No, what’s underhanded, is the Frum community allows this!
Yad L’achim goes and takes women and children away from ARABs!
There should be an organization that does the same thing with these cults! And it sure looks like – that they’d have gov. support from the respective governments’!
HealthParticipantCcguy-“You are correct that the ect was only going on the CUNY. But that’s all I was trying to define, as you so kindly requested. What does the fact that there are top schools have to do with the fact that others are adequate and have other advantages over these top schools?”
No one said that they weren’t!
But you now understand my point!!!
HealthParticipantPBA -“Billionaire Karl Wlaschek is marrying for the 5th time. He is 94 years old, and he hopes to have 5 or 6 more children, at the very least.
They aren’t revealing his bride’s age, but it is unnaturally high, based on the picture. We usually would see her being like 25.”
DY -“Health, I have news for you; whoever reads this gets the creeps, and doesn’t think very highly of the guy who started it. It’s i your best interest that this topic NOT be bumped.”
To both of you – right now there is a problem with girls finding Shidduchim and they pushed e/o to solve the problem by e/o should marry s/o their same age! Now this would only solve the problem only if e/o that just started looking for Shidduchim were the same ages!
As a matter of fact, I don’t think this is the reality!
But say it is, so the girls listened and married s/o their same age.
Now we have a choice on whom to marry – do you think it is better to marry someone who belongs to a cult like Helbran’s or to marry an older guy – 40-60y.o.?!?
September 16, 2016 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm in reply to: Is Hillary too weak and fragile to survive the rigors of the presidency? #1190274HealthParticipantJoe -“Is Hillary too weak and fragile to survive the rigors of the presidency?”
I’m starting to think – maybe it’s not so bad if Hillary wins, because then will have her VP take over in a few months, because she’ll be incapacitated!
HealthParticipantccguy -“Health: Isn’t that what ect.implies? Where did I ever suggest that those are the only two?”
This was your post -“City University of New York
i.e. Brooklyn College, Queens College, etc.”
The ect. only implies something in the category of CUNY!
“I must’ve missed your point. Would you be so kind to explain what your point is?”
My point was in the tri- State area, the’re a lot of schools and some are considered from the top in the US!
HealthParticipantMeno -“What are you talking about?”
I’ll explain in the next post.
“And why are you yelling?”
In the CR – only posting in all Capital letters is called yelling!!!
HealthParticipantCcguy -“City University of New York
i.e. Brooklyn College, Queens College, etc.”
You brought up CUNY, not me! Fyi, they’re a lot of schools besides those two!
“My point is that these are decent schools”
I wouldn’t argue, but it seems that you missed my point!
HealthParticipantCcguy -“I’ve been in Lander College for Men and in a CUNY college. The sciences in Lander were much more rigorous than the CUNY”
And what’s your point? Please tell e/o what CUNY stands for!
HealthParticipantBorrowing Some Common Sense’s – “Health – foreigners are no different from American trained prescribers. They all try to be accurate but everyone makes mistakes.”
Why did you post to me – when I wrote this – “And it’s not just foreigners that are incompetent!”?
HealthParticipantCTlawyer -“Illegal in many states including CT.”
What about NY or NJ?
HealthParticipantBk613 -“Health, not sure where you are getting your information from.”
From myself. I went there!
“The notion that “it’s Touro it must be bad” is false, many Touro students,including pre med ones, do very well and go to prestigious graduate programs.”
There’s a difference between the program and a smart person!
Btw, I’m a male, maybe the women schools are better?!?
HealthParticipantWtp -“So you are saying that the pharmacist needs to be a watchdog for the foreigners? Presumably for the foreigners to get licensed in the US they have to prove their competency”
They have to be the watchdog for e/o! And it’s not just foreigners that are incompetent! But I think they have the most part in that group!
HealthParticipantPM- “I’m looking for an academically rigorous school that will prepare me for the MCAT, as well as one with good advisement. I want to stay in a frum college for now, so I’m trying to decide between Touro Manhattan or Flatbush.”
I think that’s an oxymoron!
HealthParticipantSeeking truth -“While they were in Quebec they did not lack funds for basic necessities.
Now that they do lack basic necessities, it’s due to their persecution.
Do you want to help financially with funds for food or shelter? Are you worried the funds will be diverted to other causes?”
If any of your posts are even slightly true – if they needed to get out of Quebec, why Guatemala? They could’ve moved to Ontario!
It just seems when there’s smoke, there’s fire!
In this country, even if s/o claims that the kids are abused or neglected, there’s a major investigation!
HealthParticipantUbiq -“that sint the reality. Im so sorry to tell. You i’m not sure what made you this way. But in reality people do favors for their friends becasue they want to or just becasue that is waht friends do. Friends dont usually do favors only for money. I truly am sorry to think of what terrible experiences you must have had to make you feel this way.
I’d liek to be your friend, Absolutly no charge. Im happy to share my knowledge, wisdom, advice or just general support with you. Absolutly free of charge! You deserve it. Hang in there, it gets better.”
I was only trying to think why they didn’t find my court case – either
they’ll only do it for money or the’re incompetent!
If you can think of another reason, besides it doesn’t exist – post it!
“No, try some American law schools!””
“Sure! What am I guessing exactly though?”
Which law school posted my court case on their website!
“But you might be too afraid to show everyone here that you’ve been lying all the time!!!”
“By listing law schools? Im confused by how this game works.
Im not sure what you mean by “everyone” I dont think too many people are still reading.”
Who knows?!?
“Of course the kicker is you can easily show everyone that Ive been lying by revealing the name of the case (Earlier you indicated you didnt mind If I knew”
Since I don’t care about people finding out the case – what do I care about? I’ll tell you – money!!!
HealthParticipantIP -“While this is very very wrong and medical personnel should be absolutely sure that what they are ordering is correct, this places the pharmacist in a sort of “watchdog” position and they need to know dosages perfectly as well as drug drug interactions.”
I would never do that!
The problem in this country is they make schooling very hard, so there’s a desperate need for med professionals. So many of them are foreigners.
HealthParticipantUbiq -“What is my mistake?”
“Not hiring a lawyer, maybe thats why you lost your case. (Of course the other possibility is it never happned)”
Anything is possible on the first line, but I couldn’t afford one, because they didn’t hire me! Second line, you don’t give on your lies!
“That’s true, but you if you asked them for a favor and didn’t pay them, it’s very likely!”
“thats not a normla way of thinking. normal people do favors for free. Ive been educating you for a few weeks and in the past about other topics with out even hint of charging. I get that things are tight, but penny-pinching your friends is not a normal way to go about things. I do hope things turn around for you soon.”
I wasn’t talking about what is right, I was talking about the reality – why they didn’t help you!
“It’s self explanatory especially for a genius like you!!!”
“I thought you used to think I’m smart but not anymore.”
That was sarcasm! Do you know that word or not?
“At any rate ok here are my law school guesses:
University of the Punjab.
University of the West Indies
University of Pretoria”
No, try some American law schools!
But you might be too afraid to show everyone here that you’ve been lying all the time!!!
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