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Ubiq- -“Nowhere did Huju say (nor did you indicate that he said ) that Trump isnt eligible to be President. If people want to elect a “fake phony fraud and ignorant beyond belief” candidate president that is their right. In fact I too voted for a fake phony fraud candidate as president though one that I believe is less of those things than the candidate who won.”
My point was – I probably posted it – but it was deleted!
I don’t care about your opinions of him, but this topic was about D. Trump the President elect.
Now my comments make sense:
“The point I was making to him was that after an election coming to post against the President -elect, your post can only be why he isn’t eligible to be President!
If there is any other reason, then you don’t believe in democracy!”
yichusdik -“Kfb, Health – I didn’t have the privilege of voting. I am neither a democrat supporter nor a fan of Hillary Clinton. Where I come from I have voted conservative in every election since 1991. But I felt she would have been better than him.”
That’s what I was responding to! This is what I posted -“How did you support a candidacy that would welcome killing babies in the mother’s nine month?!?”
You still didn’t answer the question!
“Health, I’ve actually gotten off of my chair and volunteered in seven elections for conservative candidates. Have you? If not, maybe that reluctance to actually do something for a conservative cause makes YOU a “liberal”.”
“If I had the vote and there was any other conservative/republican candidate than Trump, I would have voted for them. So, Health, you can throw around the word “liberal” as an insult at me or anyone else. It only reflects on your poor understanding of the political and linguistic antecedents of the word.”
Stop with your double-talk! Anybody who supported the Democratic candidate is referred to as a Liberal! Stop living in a world long past!
“Health, it might help you to take a deep breath and actually read what is being written before responding. I wasn’t expressing concern for your kedusha”
I did and this is what I was responding to:
“I’m almost more disillusioned with the people here who supported him than I am with Trump himself.”
I’ll repeat – “How did you support a candidacy that would welcome killing babies in the mother’s nine month?!?”
You still didn’t answer the question!
Ubiq -“Im sure you wont like all of these example, yet they are all factual. And there are others.”
edited. Even though people take your insults with a grain of salt, I think it is wearing their patience thin. Either you edit, or we will have to
The point I was making to him was that after an election coming to post against the President -elect, your post can only be why he isn’t eligible to be President!
If there is any other reason, then you don’t believe in democracy!
Huju -“And just to be clear, I think he is a fake, phony fraud, and ignorant beyond belief”
Any proof? Or you just believe the media?
After all, they were paid off from the DemonCrats!
Why don’t you and all the Clinton lovers’ move to an Islamic country, like France and Belgium?!?
After all, that’s what Clinton wanted to do here!
I’m sure they’d welcome you and other Jews with open arms!
yichusdik -“I’m almost more disillusioned with the people here who supported him than I am with Trump himself. He didn’t grow up with the kedusha so many here have had in their lives.”
Stop with your liberal hypocrisy!
You’re worried about my Kedusha? Worry about your own!
How did you support a candidacy that would welcome killing babies in the mother’s nine month?!?
Do you also believe Gays should be legally married in all of the USA, even though some States were very much against that?!?
IDK if Trump can reverse all the sickness that liberals have created, but he sure can try!!!
benignuman -“I think most frum Jewish supporters of Trump have convinced themselves that David Duke and the alt-right are just mistaken in their belief that Trump is on their side.”
Now you’re telling us how we think!
It like saying how Hillary is on the side of the left in Israel & the PLO/PA!
Joe – She’s not dead yet! And B. Hussein Obama will revive her!
To all – thanks for putting him in charge for 8 years!
After all – he made a great Pres.!
This is what happens when they voted based on race, instead of the issues!!!
YY – Obviously you’re a pro – Clinton person!
How do reconcile that with being an Orthodox Jew?
Actually not just you, but all the posters here that voted for Hillary!
What does religion mean to you?
YY -“convicting a Democratic president would require the Republicans to have a 2/3 majority in the Senate. That is a highly unlikely scenario. Remember, no president has ever been convicted.”
You’re slightly mixed up! She will be impeached in the House of Representatives, but it’s unlikely she’d be thrown out because the lack of a majority in the Senate.
Joe -“2) Clinton will win.”
Who cares?!?
She will be impeached!
The only question is – will she be thrown out?!?
That depends on how many Republicans that the Senate will have!
LU -“at least in his opinion. Some might consider it a compliment”
Name one male that would consider being called a girl a compliment!
Mw13 – Do you actually think Clinton would be better for the country?!?
Letting in thousands of Muslims?!?
You and the rest of the liberals, will never rest until this country is like every other 3rd world country!
I really don’t think Jews will be able to live according to Torah values if Hillary wins!
OTOH, she will be quickly impeached!
Meno -“I bet he’s really shy and quiet.”
You would have been correct about me years ago!
Nowadays – I’m exactly the way I post!
Mr.Yidd -“You can’t wait till you’re 50 and expect women to wait for you. If they can have a younger man, they will choose to.”
I agree! IDK anybody who has done that!
Don’t tell me that you’re planning on doing that?!?
LU -“Health, you totally missed my point.”
OK. What is it (if you have one)?!?
You know it wouldn’t hurt to tone down the tone. Especially if you are looking for a wife. You never know who’s listening in….
LU -“Health – if they had been willing to get married at 28 to a girl who was 25 instead of saying she was too old for them, they would have had kids.”
At that age there’s nothing wrong to want a younger girl!
Stop telling men what to do!
“Now they are in their 50’s and it is less likely they will have kids.”
Men can have kids until 70’s – 80’s! A lot of women, once they reach 50, can’t have kids! So a man, who’s in his 50’s, will only consider a woman in her 40’s or younger!
LU -“I see guys who just keep getting older and older and are still single, and some of them still even have the same ridiculous age limits.”
Why do you say ridiculous? Some of them want to make sure that the woman can have children!
YY -“It’s well known that Rabbeinu Gershom banned reading others’ private mail. Are we allowed to read Wikileaks?”
The whole purpose of Wikileaks is to be Megaleh the Emes! Unfortunately we have seen how the DemonCrats are a bunch of liars!
If the Wikileaks were even about Jews, which they’re not, it would be Mutter because of Toieles!
benignuman -“Health,
I am not promoting smoking or overeating. I am not even saying they are “okay.”…”
Now this last post I agree with; but your previous posts gave the wrong impression!
benignuman -“Rav Moshe specifically discusses unhealthy eating and says that it does not violate the issur.”
Don’t come here – to promote a lot of Frum people who can’t control themselves!
It’s disgusting that many people smoke and/or overeat! And I’m also guilty in being overweight, but I don’t defend my loss of control!
Btw, it’s Osser to live such a lifestyle, not from the topic discussed here! If you really think it’s okay, then I’ll post here the Issur!
But I think that you’re – just defending yourself!
WTP -“I don’t think Rabbis telling women they don’t have a chiyuv to get married is a reason for the shidduch crisis- it wouldn’t be a crisis if the singles want to be single and now have an excuse to do what they want. the crisis comes from the fact that women want to get married but can’t for many reasons that have been discussed here multiple times”
FYI – you’re correct when it comes to younger women. There are many reasons – a lot have been mentioned in the CR about it.
I was talking about why men and women are having a hard time getting married when they’re older! This is a crisis for older adults. A lot have been married and have kids from before and they aren’t interested in having more!
DY -“Taking out from the Shulchan Aruch that he holds its not a chiyuv is a huge stretch. ??”? certainly doesn’t seem to hold that way (cf. ??? ????, however, see ???? ?????).”
That’s one of the reasons that there is a Shidduch crisis; because some “so-called” Rabbis tell everyone that women don’t have a Chiyuv to get married! Paskining like the ??? ???? that brings down only one Shitta, that says it’s only an Eitza Tova for women to get married is wrong! Most hold it’s a Chiyuv! Because – Halachah K’rabbim!
YK -“being overweight doesnt necessarily mean youre unhealthy.”
Sure it does! I’m overweight, but I don’t smoke!
Stop being in denial!
Eclipse -“men, if its over, deal with it like men.”
IDK what happened in your case, especially because you come here to rant! This doesn’t mean that you were wrong or right, just that your posts don’t give us a clue for the posters to make their own decision!
In my case I didn’t want a divorce, because there wasn’t a good reason!
LU -“In the case of marriage, according to halacha, a girl can decide that while it is a Mitzvah to get married and have children, it would not make sense for her to marry someone whom she does not want to marry (for whatever reason) in order to fulfill this particular Mitzvah. While a boy should also not marry someone whom he really does not want to marry,it seems to me that his reasons would have to be more substantial than a girl’s would since he does have an obligation to get married.”
They both have a Chiyov, but for different reasons! If Rav Leff said it’s just a Mitzvah, he made a mistake!
Gofish -“Geez, the misogyny in the Coffee Room sometimes astounds me.”
I just looked up the definition of misogyny. I don’t hate women, not even my ex-wife! And I want to get married again.
LU -“Health – I’m confused. I was assuming he must be single if he responded to this question. Unless you think he’s serious about the polygamy thing, which I would find hard to believe.”
IDK him personally, but from all his posts – he portrays himself as a married person. So your assumption is probably wrong!
LU -“Joe, why did you put “good cook” before “middos tovos”?”
Obviously his wife now is a lousy cook! So for #2, he wants a good cook, not that he’s divorcing the first one!
M -“And in an instant, so many of our brothers and sisters that count on food stamps, rent subsidies, EITC, medicaid, etc, will see their lifelines dry up. This menuval and mishuga is dangerous for our us and our friends”
Already food stamps are decreasing! Stop with your Liberalism!
Do you know how much we are in debt? Social Security & Medicare are drying up!
Stop believing the liberal lies!
We need a President like Trump, who understands business!
He’ll create more jobs – so they’ll be more taxpayers!
Not some liberal, that will act like Robin Hood!
What happens to all the Government money, when there is no or very few taxpayers?!?
But keep dreaming in your little, liberal world!
Joe -“Agreed. It’s only viable for the wealthy. It isn’t something most people should engage in.”
That counts you out! You don’t gotta a dime!
YK -“right now theres a guy named evan mcmullin, whos trying to pull off a write in campaign. he seems like a great guy, just no one knows him. look him up and check out his website”
Right now – e/o is bias against Trump. But he’s the only one that has a real chance of beating Hillary!
If she wins, you can count on more killing of babies, even in the ninth month!
Also, we’ll be just like Europe, with all their Muslims and their terrorism!
LU -“Women do not have a chiyuv to get married. I have asked a sheilah about it many times.
Found it! I just located my source for the fact that women don’t have a chiyuv to get married! The reason I know this is because I asked Rav Leff about it years ago. I just remembered that the shiur (at which I asked him this question) was recorded and is on his website.”
Obviously, if you’re telling the truth, he made a mistake!
Please call him up and tell him to look in S”A.
Matan1 -“Second, can you be more specific where in Even Haezer?”
I previously posted where it is – in the topic that I started called -“Who wants to be a Tzadaikes like Rus?”, Page 3.
Person1 -“Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?”
No, please tell me! You didn’t begin to understand my point!
“Honestly your responses are so irellevant I think you should get the troll treatment and be ignored.”
So why did you post to me in the first place? I surely wasn’t posting to you!
Charlie -“Health, what’s the source that women have a chiyuv to get married?”
Charlie – I thought that you were learned! Shulchan Aruch Even Haezer.
Gofish -“Whoa, do you think that unwarranted attack was mentchlich?”
It wasn’t unwarranted! People should work on themselves and not worry so much about others!
If you’re Zocheh – you’ll end up with a guy like me!
Gofish -“Geez, the misogyny in the Coffee Room sometimes astounds me. There are actually women who are extremely well versed in halacha and can be way more knowledgeable than you, speaking of gaavah”
Now that’s possible, but I haven’t seen any here in the CR! But I could tell – that you have a good English vocabulary.
Gofish -“The most important thing for me is that he is a mentch.”
I consider myself as being a mentch! Who says you are?!?
LU -“Actually, you’re wrong about its being a chiyuv for women to get married as I have already pointed out to you. But I am not going to argue with you about it, since I know from experience that there is no point in getting into an argument with you regarding halacha, since you are nowhere near being my “bar plugta” when it comes to halacha.”
You’re wrong again! I learn Shulchun Aruch.
“That is true of most people since most people do not have my background in halacha, but the problem with you is that you won’t admit it when you are unable to understand something even after I have explained it to you many times so there is no point in continuing this discussion”
Stop speaking to yourself! What Yeshiva did you learn in?
If you’re a woman, you’re whole post reeks of Gaivah!
LU -“Who said I was hesitant to get married??!! Talk about making assumptions!!! One of the most common stereotypes around is that anyone who is older and single is obviously too picky.”
There was a reason for my assumption in your case!
From your posts you give the appearance that you wouldn’t settle for Stam a guy!
Did you know that there is a Chiyuv to get married – even for women?!?
LU -“Health, I think it usually stops eventually, although it could take until the kids are grown up. It seems to me that most people who get divorced eventually reach the point that they aren’t fighting.”
Is that why you are hesitant to get married – because your parents got divorced & there was a lot of fighting?!?
Eclipse -“Health, why cant you go and just ignore each other. We dont talk at all but we both go to the kids simchas.”
I’d go, but my one Frum son won’t invite them!
Eclipse -“very simple: 1.because when there is stuff to hide everyone suddenly becomes very into shmiras haloshon”
You should have married me! Oh well!
By me it was just the opposite, anything bad and even Motzay Shem Ra, they were eager to speak about me!
LU -“you don’t even have to deal with each other anymore, except for attending the same Simchas at opposite sides of the Mechitza.”
Again, here you go making assumptions! I thought I posted to you before about that?!? I’d never, Bl’n, would go to a Simcha where she’d be! As a matter of fact, I’d not go to a Simcha where the person that caused the divorce would be at!
Eclipse -“The amazing and beautiful thing about us women is that we melt like wax as soon as you are even a little kind again, thus men being given a million chances to make amends when they should have been dumped long ago”
The question I have – why did you marry him in the first place?
Abba-S -“Health – I thought divorce stopped the fighting. Let us hope this new year bring Peace on Earth both when dealing with countries and even between husband and wife, or in your case between ex husband and ex-wife so that all fighting will stop. May you also find your true love and get married this year. Let’s also hope the Moshiach comes this year too.”
Thank you!
That’s one of the reasons that I never wanted to get divorced!
I knew that there will be much more fighting.
Eclipse -“health: I never mowed the lawn, no grass in NY (just weed)”
So mow your weeds!
“re: better luck, im too busy to even consider it:)”
That’s very good, because Batoloh Mavy to Shimone!
I’m not – except –
I’m still fighting with my ex, after many years.
Eclipse -“Now the woman’s job could be TO SPEND PRECIOUS TIME WITH HER CHILDREN, which is what most want to do anyway.”
I spent a lot of time with my kids, besides doing a lot of chores!
I’m sorry that you got such a raw deal when you were married!
Better luck next time!