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Sam2 -“He uses Israel as an excuse, nothing more”
It’s true, he’s Antisemitic. But Jews have to watch what they say – not to add fuel to the fire!
LU -“There are sources that talk about how EY is the safest place in the world.”
Joe doesn’t agree with you!
From a few years ago:
“Obaminator
Joseph
I find it disturbing that some people use FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) as a selling point to encourage others to move to Israel. And the fact is that living in Israel is not necessarily safer than living in America. Both are in golus.”
Yahud -“takish mamish, “Israel is the only safe place I can think of” ARE U NUTS the most amtisemmitick country, and u want to move there ?”
Not only that, but they cause Antisemitism here in the US. For example, David Duke uses Israel to define Judaism!
LS -“Health, in your antizionidt quest, you conveniently ignore that hatred of Jews ( Crusader massacres, numerous expulsions, pogroms, blood libels ) did not require the existence of the Medina”
Stop putting words in my mouth! I don’t ignore that issue.
I was just commenting on D.Duke!
YY -“So how did Israel “treat the Goyim?” Non-Jews in Israel, especially Christians”
Arabs and Muslims are also Goyim!
Sam2 -“You didn’t read nearly enough of David Duke’s website if you think that that’s even close to the biggest problem with him. And by close to, I mean it’s not even a drop in an ocean-sized bucket.”
I did go through his whole website and I’m not saying he’s not an Antisemite.
But in your Zionist quest, you missed my whole point of my post!
benignuman -“The number 1 anti-semite in the United States is probably David Duke.”
I just went to his webpage and listened to him. Even though he quotes things we all believe in – Eg. – Am Hadomeh L’chamor- somehow he found out about them. It just goes to show you how careful we must be in a public setting, with our speech.
So to call him names is not accomplishing anything!
The best way is to watch our speech and to promote the fact Goyim can get Olam Habah if they keep the 7 Mitzvahs!
We have to stress the positive when it comes to Goyim!
One of the things that bothers him a lot, is Israel. And how they treated the Goyim. This proves another reason why almost all the Gedolim were against the Medina!
It promotes Antisemitism.
So when it comes to pointing a finger – don’t forget 4 point backwards!
If we want to get out of Golus, we have to keep the Torah, not just lip-speech!
And Zionism is not the answer!
LU -“Didn’t you know that “opposites attract”?”
Not always! Your posts are always opposite from mine!
Flatbusher -“If you are, I would like to know what you thought she was going to bring to the presidency”
I know what she would have brought!
Did you see the headlines about s/o arrested for joining ISIS?!?
They wrote he was planning an attack on Times Square.
She would have brought a lot of Terrorism here!
29 -“that is very different from using a leash/harness in place of teaching a child safety, boundaries or to follow directions.”
I think most people who use it are doing it for your first reason!
The few people that do it for your above reason, are not too common.
Most people who are negligent, just let the kids loose. And I’ve seen it many times – where I live!
takahmamash -“This is a parent problem, not a kid problem”
True! But it’s a common problem.
LU -“THAT is why I am looking for someone perfect – because I am not, and I need someone to be “mashlim” me!”
There’s no such thing!
My line was a joke.
LU -“Really??? wow, I’m shocked! Was it in Lakewood? What I want to know is, where does the harness go on the child – is it around his wrist, his waist or other?”
No, they were from Israel vacationing in the USA.
A harness fits around the torso and is zippered in the back.
“How old was the kid?”
1-2 y/o.
LU -“no one can expect to marry someone perfect”
I expect to marry s/o perfect, because I’m perfect!
LU -“2. Do you personally know people who do? If yes, are they Frum?”
Yes, yes.
“3. Have you ever seen anyone use a harness?”
Yes
WS -“And a good chunk of the above argument came from someone very close to me in her decision to go on meds even as she was concerned about shidduchim.”
I would definitely go out with such a person! She seems like a person who deals with her problems’. A lot of people are just in denial, even when it’s obvious that they’re problematic people!
LU -“If he should be on medication for anxiety and isn’t, I would be able to tell when I go out with him.”
How in the world would you be able to tell from a few dates?!?
takahmamash -“A harness is for animals, and is demeaning to a human being, no matter what age”
I somewhat agree with that, but IMHO letting them loose with no or little supervision is much worse!
I think that it’s become – not just a few, but that it’s very common, nowadays.
PBA -“Most people I see choose stroller. I chose harness.”
I used a stroller. When there wasn’t another parent around – you have one kid push the stroller. That takes care of 2 kids. No stroller or no harness, is an accident waiting to happen!
Kj -“Instead of looking for a Zionist seminary,I strongly reccomend finding one that teaches the Jewish religion”
I don’t think there is one!
As far as I know, Brisk doesn’t have a seminary. But maybe Satmar.
Is there one in EY?
I. M. Shluffin -“They wouldn’t get thrown back – an elephant’s nose and sneeze”
I’m sure if a elephant sneezes, it doesn’t use it’s nose, but it’s mouth!
LU -“Health – uh… that wasn’t what I was impressed by.”
OK – I’ll play your little game!
WHAT WERE YOU IMPRESSED BY?!?
LU -“Psh…I’m impressed”
You should be! Not e/o gets married & not e/o has kids!
According to the Nosi info, every year some women will remain spinsters!
lightbrite -“Is there a formal program in Jewish schools teach children about the dangers of drugs?”
Is there a formal program in Jewish schools teach children about the dangers of smoking?
No, there isn’t!
And as far as, smoking vs. drug addiction, smoking is by far much more prevalent in the Frum community!
LU -“Health, you missed my point, but it’s really not that important.”
I did not miss your point! I didn’t agree with your point.
I’ve been married previously, and I never heard of a marriage that there was no disagreement. There’s nothing wrong with having disagreements, its what both parties do to resolve them!
LU -“The discussion here was about the wife “turning on her husband”. The issue in the other thread was about a women who was unable to manage all the additional work involved with an additional baby.”
No it wasn’t!
Obviously you missed my previous post of:
“You’re right when it comes to women; but the OP was talking about a guy!
I’ll quote:”
“I’m happy he has gotten help and does not self medicate with etoh or the illegal substances”
“In that case, that should be stated. Otherwise, it sounds like you think that there is something in women’s genetic makeup that makes them more likely to “turn on their husbands”.”
Exactly – the latter!
MW13 -“Chief Anti-Semite of the US”
You liberal liers are all the same!
If you would have been honest – you would have named J. Wright as chief!
Ya’know, Obama’s pastor for 20 years.
Here’s a quote from Wikipedia:
“Wright stated in a June 10, 2009 interview that he had still voted for Obama for President, despite the controversy. He said that he had no regrets about any of his comments. He also alleged that “them Jews” within the Obama administration are preventing the two from speaking to each other. He also suggested that Obama did not send a delegation to the Durban Review Conference in Geneva because of Jewish pressure, saying: “[T]he Jewish vote, the A-I-P-A-C vote, that’s controlling him, that would not let him send representation to the Darfur Review Conference, that’s talking this craziness on this trip, cause they’re Zionists, they would not let him talk to someone who calls a spade what it is.”
LU -“Regarding your comment, Health, about boys learning because it’s PC is not necessarily relevant since I assume that she wants a guy who is learning for the right reasons.”
Of course it’s relevant; because how would she know what his actual reason is!
“Also, the fact that there guys are more likely to learn today because it’s the thing to do doesn’t make it a bad thing”
No one said it was a bad thing! I wrote -“there are plenty that only do it because it’s the PC!”
YH -“But he isn’t what I’m looking for. He’s working, he’s a great guy but I don’t know how much he still learns. He would watch a movie here and there. Etc.”
And why isn’t he what you’re looking for?!?
This whole world that working guys aren’t good enough is just a sign of the times!
Once upon a time, no girl wanted a learning guy.
I wanted to sit and learn – not because it’s the PC.
But there are plenty that only do it because it’s the PC!
benignuman -“Health,
I am not sure if you are understanding what I am writing. Halachically, for Jews, there are many circumstances (including within
A federal law banning abortion except in life-threatening would apply nationally and would effect the Jewish population in every state. I would not want the Jews to be prevented from the option of an abortion in situations where it would be mutar.
Therefore, giving the issue back to the States to decide would be the best solution. If, chas v’shalom, someone was in a situation where they needed an abortion, they could always travel to one of the lenient states”
You obviously don’t understand my point!
I posted this previously:
“Unfortunately, all I heard Trump say – he’d return it to the States!
But I want it illegal everywhere!”
I want it illegal everywhere!
If so Yid wants an abortion, in a case where it’s not life threatening for the mother, but Mutter anyways, let them travel to a different different country!
benignuman -“Health! Fortunately, I do know what I am talking about. And I was talking about Jews. Do you think the States are going to make laws that only apply to non-Jews? If they ban abortion, it will apply to Jews as well.”
Stop with your hypocrisy!
Of course it applies to Jews also.
First of all, who do you think is the majority in this country – Jews or Goyim?!?
Second of all, you just posted on the previous page – that the States had exceptions for life threatening cases!
LU -“Why should it be different for men?”
You yourself just brought down a case in the topic called Obamacare etc., that a woman seeked an abortion for emotional problems!
That’s why!!!
Excellence -“I would not risk my marriage on such thin ice. Such a wife could turn on you at any moment. They make for dangerous inlaws too. Unfortunately, I’ve seen it before.”
You’re right when it comes to women; but the OP was talking about a guy!
I’ll quote:
“I’m happy he has gotten help and does not self medicate with etoh or the illegal substances”
benignuman -“Health!,
Whether or not abortion is asur (outside of risk to the mother life) is a machlokes Rishonim, Acharonim and modern-day poskim.”
Unfortunately, you don’t know what you are talking about!
That is only by Jews, not by Goyim!
Abortion is killing, no matter what you say!
benignuman -“Being provided healthcare when needed is a necessity in the sense that it is necessary for you to live. Under US law a person cannot be refused needed medical care at an emergency room.
But health insurance is privilege. You must be treated but you will receive a bill afterward. Not paying your bill is not a necessity and no one else can be morally required to pay your bill for you.
All that being said, I actually support Medicaid for all (aka single payer)”
I agree! And make sure to get rid of MEDICARE!
Avi K -“The rest of your rant is sheer hysteria. Trump said what he wants to do?”
You’re right on the mark!
I don’t agree with you generally about Israel, but the notion that Trump is Hitler is ludicrous!
These libs will do & say anything to push their way!
Ubiq-“Yes, but what was hapening was often when people became sick insurance companies found reasons to drop them.”
The main reason was because of AIDS!
Kollelman -“Since insurance companies cannot reject pre-existing conditions, their risk (and with that, the premiums) has gone up significantly”
You’re right! Why should e/o else pay because you got AIDS?!?
Flatbusher -“For example minority rights including our rights. If you are able to take off Shabbos without fear of being fired that is thanks to liberals”
Unfortunately, that’s not true! (Just ask Ubiq – I’m sure he found the Shabbos case by now!)
In some industry’s they won’t even higher Shabbos observers!
I hope this changes under Trump! After all, his daughter and son-in-law are Shomer Shabbos!
LU -“I have heard that in the Western world, approximately 1/3 or 1/4 of the population is on medication. I doubt that these statistics are true for the Yeshivish world”
You’re right! I heard of a doctor in Lakewood that puts half of his female patients on anxiety meds!
Ubiq- “OK what about the person who develops cancer while on an insurance plan then the insurance company drops them from the policy becasue he hasa history of bunions/acne etc prior to joining the policy and they now realize he had a pre-existing condition and shouldnt have been approved?
pre Obamacare this was not an unheard of occurrence”
As far as I know, that preexisting condition is not a disease!
IDK if anyone was actually thrown off because of it.
And if you prove that they were, then that should be an exclusion in the law!
“Agreed. Though you said They should “go broke” It seems your plan is for those faced with a devastating illness to go broke. Im worried that I didint misunderstand ou. Please tell me that I have.”
I’m telling e/o, like Pres. Obama to buy insurance; if you don’t, & then you get ill, with a long term illness, the companies might not accept you for a Health insurance policy!
“Furthermore, if a person switches employers he may very well be switching insuracne carriers and even if a condition was not “preexisting” when he started it now is. In the old days he too could have been denied.”
The law should be that you can keep your old policy, even with changing jobs!
“note: Even trump doesnt agree with you on this and has said he plans to keep that part of ObamaCare.”
And I don’t agree with everything he said either! See my last post on abortion!
benignuman -“the legality of abortion was left to the States. Some states permitted abortion and some states banned it and some states were in between. The majority of states outlawed it outside of risk to the mother’s health but there were states that one could visit to get an abortion.”
Unfortunately, all I heard Trump say – he’d return it to the States!
But I want it illegal everywhere!
That’s what the Torah says!
Ubiq -“It shouldnt, that was my point. I dont believe people who get sick should be bankrupted and go on medicaid. You do. I dont see how you can claim to be a rachaman or gomel chesed and beleive that on top of being sick all thse people should be poor too.”
Simple; because Obamacare has made insurance unaffordable for many!
I have Rachmonus on those people instead of people with preexisting conditions!
I agree that if you already have insurance, you should not be able to be thrown off!
“and your right it isnt just cancer the bills from any unexpected medical emergency would be enough to bankrupt most familes, even relatively comfortable ones. That you would condemn all these people to bankruptcy and medicaid is appalling.”
There’s nothing wrong with having Medicaid! I have it and it covers emergencies. The situation of Obamacare and it’s high premiums is wrong!
Mods – I’m trying to tame it down, but I get lost in the emotional aspect!
Well thank you for letting us know.
Ubiq – “So if a person gets a life altering illness like Cancer your response is “Let them become broke and then they will get Medicaid!”
I knew s/o would post like you just did! All liberals think the same!
And why should Cancer be different?
“and you claim to be a Ben Avraham of which the Gemara says we are “Rachmanim, Bayshanim, and Gomlei chasadim” I think your one post above single handedly proved you lack all three of those qualities”
Funny how the Mods don’t let me post any insults (which I agree with), but your posts’ are given Carte de Blanche!
We post plenty of your insults (probably too many). This is a RESPONSE to an insult, one I had thought to delete but figured you might accept the mussar better from a response. Hoping one day to see change…
Kollelman -“Since insurance companies cannot reject pre-existing conditions, their risk (and with that, the premiums) has gone up significantly”
You hit the nail on the head!
Why should e/o else pay because you got AIDS?!?
This is worse thought processes than Communism!
Let them become broke and then they will get Medicaid!
Dbrim -“I hope you take great pride in your tolerance for pay-for-play Palestinian-loving criminals – maybe you could extend that tolerance toward Health just a bit – after all, it’s not as though he’s rioting.”
Thank you!
yichusdik -“You ask about supporting a candidate who supports killing babies in the ninth month. Just because Donald Trump and his allies framed the discussion that way (effectively so – they got many voters to see it in their well crafted frame too) doesn’t mean it is accurate. Take the point in the second or third debate where Trump lambasted Hilary for supporting abortion until the last day of a pregnancy. She should have called out his absurdity.”
I really have a hard time responding to your posts!
I think that somehow you were very mislead!
I watched some of the debates and I heard her say she believes in partial birth abortion even in the 9th month!
If you don’t know what that means – look it up or ask s/o!