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Ubiq -“also note: as usual you havent actually answered my question here it is again: “how does saying the words Islamic and Terrorism together help?”
I answered this already – here it is again:
“It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology!”
“Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?”
“Well mostly becasue they are. But ok, i’ll bite where are they based. LEt me guess on the grassy knoll or maybe in imaginary supreme court”
“I’ll post the answer below.”
“answer to what?”
This -“Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?”
Here it is again:
From the news yesterday:
“Former President George W. Bush has told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that he was “frustrated” when the U.S. pulled troops out of Iraq in 2011, clearing the way for ISIS to be formed from the remains of Al Qaeda in Iraq.”
“Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.”
“That’s because…”
what? we were safer under Obama because Bill Clinotn dint think Islam terror was a threat. Does that make sense to you? becasue that is what you wrote.
thr bottom line is we were safer under Obaam than Bush so your critiscm of “failled liberal polcies” doesnt hold much water”
Oh, of course it does, but you’re trying very hard to disillusion everyone!
My point was – it wasn’t Bush’s fault, that we safer under Obama than him! It was the fault of his predecessor – Billy Boy!
But keep dreaming that the libs will protect us from our enemies!
“You need ground troops!”
“Yes but we still need allies in the region where basis are eg Kuwait, Saudi Arabia”
We don’t need those allies!
Iraq would have begged us to help them to defend themselves against ISIS.
Ubiq -“Dont bombs give that message in an even better way than saying the magic words “Islamic terrorism”?”
Your Idol Obama & the DemonCrats keep trying to push that lie on the American people!
“Lol, look at a map ISIS is based in IRaq, what look whose airspace is needed, look where US bases are.”
Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?
I’ll post the answer below.
“Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.”
That’s because the DemonCrats, like Bill Clinton, didn’t ever think that Islam Terror was a threat to the US!
Why do you believe the liberal propaganda?!?
To answer your question:
Bombs are not the way to destroy the enemy!
You need ground troops!
From the news yesterday:
“Former President George W. Bush has told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that he was “frustrated” when the U.S. pulled troops out of Iraq in 2011, clearing the way for ISIS to be formed from the remains of Al Qaeda in Iraq.”
Yidd23 -“Health, why is your idol Trump any better than Obama?”
He’s not my idol!
Because he’s actually doing something to protect our country!
Ubiq -“And how does saying Islamic Terrorism together help?”
It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology!
“Other than turning away Muslim alies that we need what purpose would it accomplish?”
More jokes! We don’t need the so-called Muslim allies to protect us!
“BTW “straw man” sine I see you couldn’t be bothered to look it up is
“an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.”
Nobody suggested letting in “ALL so-called refugees” certainly not on this thread, sinc eit isnt the topic at hand. and not on any other that I can recall”
All the liberal policies have done nothing to protect us!
This includes the Obama’s policies!
You liberals just don’t get it!
“I would never. compare the two. Even the comparison made ealrier between Trump and 3rd graders is insulting to third-graders”
Your insults to our president is typical of DemonCrats/liberals, when they don’t have a logical opposing argument, they resort to insults!
Ubiq -“On this thread we were discussing Trump’s refusal to condemn terrorism when doesnt fit with his xenophobic worldview”
That’s funny! Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together!
So talking about straw-men, you and him are the kings of it!
Stop trying to equate your Idol with the President!
Our president is taking a tough stance against Islamic Terrorism, while the liberals, like Obama and France, are still trying to appease the Muslim world!
Ubiq -“You need to brush up on your French History”
Stop with your Liberal propaganda!
Most of the terror were from Muslims.
It didn’t matter which party was in charge!
Do you think that the liberal policies’ of letting in all these so-called refugees is going to have more terror in France or less?!?
Shopping -“Meaning they had to say goodbye to not getting a guy who didn’t come with “issues””
What kind of issues? Some are non-negotiable; others are just fluff!
YY -“No one from the right wing was impressed by this lunatic’s action!”
You just proved my point. I was talking about using violence and no one was impressed to violence against Muslims!
The left are in cahoots with the Muslim terror!
Look what just happened in France. S/o finger was sawed off.
Things like this didn’t happen, when France was more Conservative!
Shopping – “Health, I know of girls who can’t get a regular guy.”
So why can’t they lower their standards?
I’ve been around awhile, & from my perspective, I know a lot of marriages, some who had the top reputations, but the woman had to divorce him. OTOH, there are a lot of guys, who were just plain, but they make great husbands!
Bochur -“Health do you think that’s the way it should be? That a girl should have to lower her standards because of something she did in 10th grade? Even though now as she is would be deserving of the best”
The lowering of standards are not reality. People speak bad about e/o, boys and girls. That’s what I mean – lowering the level of people she should go out with!
Shopping -“It’s so interesting you find it hard to date. I hear the opposing side, girls claim that they make one mistake in 10th grade and everything is over.”
What do you mean “everything is over”? That they can’t get the most popular boy?!?
Well, fyi, nothing is really over, but they’ll have to lower their standards in order to get married!
YY -“Let me see if I get it. If somebody who commits an act of terror is a right winger or he “doesn’t have a violent organization,” he’s not a terrorist, so Timothy McVeigh was not a terrorist and neither are the lone-wolf Palestinians who attack Jewish targets. Is that what you’re saying?”
I don’t remember the McVeigh case, but the so-called Palestinians are definitely doing it for political gains!
Read the definition that I brought down above again!
No one from the right wing was impressed by this lunatic’s action!
YY -“What makes you say he’s a lunatic? He seems like a run of the mill white supremacist”
The funny thing is – it’s not the alt-right that’s into all the violence recently! It’s the new called Bolsheviks aka liberal left.
That’s why I said he’s just another lunatic. He doesn’t have a violent organization.
OTOH, we see daily violence from the extreme left!
YY & Ubiq – (I’m being redundant.)
“Sorry Health!, I don’t currently have access to any third graders, but there might be some CR readers who qualify. Can anybody explain how a terrorist act can not be terrorism? Apparently news it’s obvious”
From Webster’s – “Terrorism – the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal”
That guy in Canada was a lunatic! He couldn’t accomplish any goals.
OTOH, the king of terrorism – Arafat was able to accomplish many goals!
For instance, the world accepts another 2 state solution; disregarding the previous one (Palestine and Transjordan)!
Now go back to your primary goal of putting down President Trump, with other complaints!
YY -“Health!, could you explain how a terrorist act is not terrorism?”
I’m not explaining something simple! Why don’t you ask a third -grader?
According to you – you can ask President Donald Trump!
Ubiq -“Is that about right?”
Very good! You’re starting to get it!
Ubiq -“Health
People have to earn respect. Calling Trump a “third grader” is insulting to third graders. If I had a third grader who treated people the way Trump does I would smack him upside the head (not literally, but thats beside the point). that he tricked millions to vote for him doesnt change that one bit.”
That’s the problem with you liberals – you just don’t get it!
IDK if some voters were tricked, most like his agenda!
“Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!”
“I responded to that point already of course you ignored it as you always do and as Trump does when pointed out over and over how wrong almost everything he says is)
Here is a reminder. YOU criticised Obama that he “couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!”
IT seems earlier you viewed the job of President as handling Terrorism that occurs abroad. And I dont disagree. With Great power comes great responsibility.”
I did respond to that – I said it wasn’t terrorism, but a terrorist act. Just like he doesn’t respond to homicides everyday in this country!
Ubiq -“To you that is the same as denouncing a terror attack?”
Of course not! But with your obsession to putting down our president, you deliberately forgot one major difference!
Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!
So when Chicago and it’s State are not doing their job, it becomes his responsibility!
YY -“Health! I show respect to those who have earned it. I deliberately called Trump a boy because he acts like a spoiled third grader.”
You’re not the authority who decides who gets respect or not!
The people in this country are, because they elected him commander and chief.
I even gave respect to Clinton, even though he was impeached!
Where did you go to school? Because you never were taught basic manners!
Ubiq -“more lies. First of all Trump isnt a conservative.”
It’s all relative. He’s more conservative than a lot of posters here!
“Lol he HAS commented on Chicago homicide! I guess it isnt “obviously bad””
Your posts are getting more manipulative by the minute!
I actually wrote this:
“Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago EVERYDAY?!?”
YY -“Anyone who criticizes your boy Trump is a liberal. The Koch brothers and John McCain must be liberals.”
First of all, he’s not “my boy”!
Didn’t they teach you in Yeshiva to have some respect, if you went to Yeshiva?!?
IDK who Koch bros are, but McCain is definitely liberal!
Ubiq-“Got it. Because trump is to busy to comment on a terrorist act that isn’t terrorism.
What with all his important comments regarding snl and the terrible events in sweden tthe night before his nuremberg rally. who has time for a few dead people that aren’t white”
It’s unfortunate that people like you can see no good in conservative people like President Trump.
Btw, he doesn’t comment on things that are obviously bad!
Maybe he should name all the victims of homicide in Chicago everyday?!?
Ubiq & YY-“It isnt, but it is “abroad”
Remember when you said “Your idol Obama, couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad”? (it wasnt that long ago, see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/if-im-not-antisemitic#post-647794)
Health, I know trying to convince you of the obvious is like spitting into the wind, but here goes. Trump rails against Islamic terror all over the world, including places that didn’t even have it (e.g. Sweden). But when an Islamophobe massacres worshippers in a mosque in Canada, he doesn’t let out a peep.”
To you liberals – who said it was terrorism, even though it was a terrorist act?!?
I think it was the act of a crazy person!
But don’t let up any chance to demonize our President!
LB -“But he says America first. People hear that and associate “White people” first.”
They’ll do anything to knock President Trump.
“There were swastikas all over NY subways recently. I don’t know how frequent this is but the president’s silence in antisemitism is taken as support.
He had a chance to say something against it and instead spoke against Jews.”
It’s not his job! Speak to Cuomo and D’Blasio.
“It’s not like his words and behavior have no affect on the states and their success at mitigating the threats.”
I have no idea what you’re talking about!
Ubiq -“Unless of course by handle you mean ignore as he did after the shooting in a mosque in Quebec.”
Well I didn’t know Quebec was part of the United States!
“As for Obama, why is he my idol?”
What do you mean? Don’t you idolize all liberals?!?
LB -“The frightening thing is that he already handled dealing with terrorism by saying that if anything happens chas v’shalom then it will be the judges faults.”
He’s right!
“Seriously he set himself up for not taking any credit if something happens and surely he will find a way to shrug off responsibility even if the source of terror isn’t someone from the outside.
You’re giving him a lot of credit Health.”
That’s your biased opinion!
“Also the point is that he is not doing anything to help stop the rise in antisemitism. Is he?”
It’s not his issue. Go ask the governors’ of the states in where that’s occuring!
LB -“In Dec. I asked my doc and she poked it. It was still tender. In January I got an xray. Didn’t show anything. Doc called with results and said that maybe I need an MRI.”
Where do you live (city, town,etc.)?
She’s right – you do need an MRI!
Nechomah -“Yes, Health, but a fracture of a toe that is not very painful and she could walk on the foot would not likely need more than a supportive comfortable shoe (not that she would be wearing flip-flops in the winter) and a pain reliever. What else would a podiatrist or orthopedic surgeon do for it?”
You meant well, but the way a medical professional looks at the situation – is not what it probably is, but to look at all probabilities. And to determine that – you must do a x-ray!
Because of that, there is the slight possibility of the need for internal fixation.
And as a side topic, it seems that she doesn’t have insurance.
I haven’t been there in a long time, but what I remember is that Kupat Cholim is pretty cheap. Not having money is not an excuse for not seeking medical care!
Ubiq -“what do you think of the rise of antisemitism?
I oppose it. there easy done
but of course Trump cant handle that”
You’re right. He couldn’t handle it.
But I’d rather have a president that can’t handle this, but is able to handle the terrorist threats.
Your idol Obama, couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!
Nechomah – “I don’t know if all podiatrists are created equal, but I would prefer, as suggested above, to see an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in feet. Yes, they do exist. I used to work for one. He’s an excellent doctor.”
I don’t know if all orthopedic surgeons are created equal, but I would prefer to see a podiatrist!
“When you give the details that you banged your toe, it sounds to me like you have what they call in Hebrew a “shetef dam”. What I think that means is that you have some internal bleeding (bruise) going on there. The bang you gave to your toe broke some small blood vessels and they bled, creating the purple color and the swelling. I would say that if your toe is very painful (like you can’t walk on it or sleep at night) or crooked, then I would go to Terem and have them take an x-ray (they would figure out from your story that it was not an infection or ingrown toe nail but possibly a fracture). If it is neither extremely painful nor crooked, then I would wear some comfortable shoes, keep your foot elevated when you can and take an anti-inflammatory, like Advil or Neurofen to help reduce the swelling and pain. If you do this for two or three days and the pain gets worse or does not improve, then I would go to Terem and have them take an x-ray.”
Thanks for your non-medical opinion (even though you worked for a surgeon), but it can be a fracture without a lot of pain!
Some Common Sense -“(to Health – you do make a good point. However, we are aware that a purple toe could be many things – gangerene, warfarin-induced, an extensive bruise among others. We take a history and make a recommendation – which could very well be “See a physician – I will not recommend anything over the counter.”
My post wasn’t in anyway against Pharmacists, but the trend nowadays to use you guys as PCP’S.
I’m not sure why this phenomenon is occurring!
Perhaps it’s lack of money or insurance, or perhaps it’s laziness or something else (which I can’t think of)!
WtP -“Disclaimer: Do not take this as medical advice. This was given as friendly help from a non-professional who has experience with stubbed toes”
Because it’s not! You see there was a reason I wrote to see a podiatrist. She doesn’t need to pay money to see a doctor or a nurse, just for immobilization. She could tape it herself!
Now back to my point – you need a x-ray, because sometimes rarely, you need an Orthopedic surgeon or a Podiatrist to do “internal fixation”!
You just proved – why you can’t take advice from the internet!
Bk613 -“What’s so special about feet?”
The profession was separated from regular medicine from Time Immorial.
From Wikipedia:
“The professional care of feet was in existence in ancient Egypt…
29 -“Well you must have some cadillac insurance. Rare is it that you can get a green light for a specialist to look at a toe and determine if it requires ice, antibiotics or an x-ray”
I actually just have Medicaid. One good thing about Medicaid, is that you don’t need referrals for almost any Specialist!
A bad thing about Medicaid is that a lot of doctors don’t accept it!
I just had to find doctors in Lakewood that did.
And the funniest thing is they are very good docs’; even better than the ones that don’t accept Medicaid!
29 -“C’mon Health, that’s two for two!!!! You don’t go to a podiatrist for an injury, you go to a doctor who determines what needs to be done. I am pretty certain you wouldn’t need a podiatrist unless it is determined that it is a break that needs setting. Any infection or typical fracture would be handled by a doctor.”
That was years ago; I don’t where you live but here in the US – Podiatrists practice all medical & surgical problems of the foot.
The times I banged my toes, it was 2 times a fracture, one time it wasn’t, but all times I went to the Podiatrist.
I didn’t practice on myself!
29 -“And Health – I am surprised you would even be agreeing to that!!!!”
Well I don’t agree that pharmacists or lightbright should practice medicine; but she got most of the diseases correct!
LU -“There is a Frum emergency medical place within walking distance so I guess I’ll head over there tomorrow.”
I looked it up. Haddasah does offer podiatry. You need a podiatrist.
They will take US dollars or Shequalims for payment!
Good luck.
C’mon Health, that’s two for two!!!! You don’t go to a podiatrist for an injury, you go to a doctor who determines what needs to be done. I am pretty certain you wouldn’t need a podiatrist unless it is determined that it is a break that needs setting. Any infection or typical fracture would be handled by a doctor.
LB -“Why is it swollen? Do you know or have any hypotheses?”
I actually practice medicine, but you and your pharmacist are doing a decent job. It could be more things, like a fracture or gout.
LU -“Anyone know?”
Don’t they have podiatrists in Israel?
mentsch1 -“Health
Regular dentists are capable of doing regular extractions. except it was already stated that the tooth is impacted.”
You must have missed my last post.
Here it is again:
“Surgical extractions commonly are done by oral surgeons. However, they are also done by general dentists.”
LB -“Pulling a tooth that is sticking out from the gum isn’t the same as slicing into soft tissue to extract wisdom teeth.”
From Colgate’s website:
Reviewed by Columbia University – College of Dental Medicine
“There are two types of extractions:
A simple extraction is performed on a tooth that can be seen in the mouth. General dentists commonly do simple extractions. In a simple extraction, the dentist loosens the tooth with an instrument called an elevator. Then the dentist uses an instrument called a forceps to remove the tooth.
A surgical extraction is a more complex procedure. It is used if a tooth may have broken off at the gum line or has not come into the mouth yet. Surgical extractions commonly are done by oral surgeons. However, they are also done by general dentists. The doctor makes a small incision (cut) into your gum. Sometimes it’s necessary to remove some of the bone around the tooth or to cut the tooth in half in order to extract it.”
LC -“Health, are you sure you don’t teach in a progressive,liberal university? Someone disagrees with you so you issue personal insults. I’ve had two impacted wisdom teeth removed. On the first, I naively followed my dentists advice that he could do it ( he used your argument). However, this turned out not to be a routine extraction.”
I never said that there is no purpose for Oral Surgeons.
In your case you’re the one that made the mistake.
This doesn’t mean that regular dentists aren’t capable to do simple extractions!
LC -“Health, that was lousy advice. Would you have a general surgeon replace your knee with an implant?”
Stick to your political views! At least they’re coherent.
You just believe another poster because she insists she’s right.
Oh Btw, many dentists remove teeth it’s their theorim of practice!
Litvos -“He referred me to a maxillofacial surgeon specializing in third molar removals.”
If your insurance will cover it or you got a lot of money to throw around, go for it.
If not, go to another dentist. A lot will pull teeth, especially molars. It’s a lot cheaper than an Oral Surgeon!
Yidd23 -“If tigers go extinct, how will we describe them to the children of the future?”
I’ve seen an extinct tiger in the museum. It was a fake Sabertooth tiger. As a matter of fact, in Disney world, they have robotic Dinosaurs that move around!
ZD -“Better to say nothing.”
Are you familiar with what the bishop said about the Holocaust?