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2scents -“Thats what this is all about, you getting burnt from the Frum PC?”
Let me explain – I believed the Frum PC about Hatzola & I used them. Consequently they were negligent and the family member didn’t survive. And it wasn’t just one mistake, but many!
CAD -“the correct answer is Proctalgia Fugax, with its one study showing effectiveness of Salbutamol (Albuterol, it’s more common name in the US)”
Stop with your misleading – there is only Anecdotal evidence:
From fpnotebook:
“No proven Management.
Medications with Anecdotal success:
Albuterol MDI
Catapres 0.15 mg bid
Cardizem 80 mg PO bid
Diazepam (Valium) at bedtimeProcedures that have been studied with varying success:
Sacral nerve stimulation
Pudendal Nerve BlockManeuvers that anecdotally interrupt spasm:
Sit in tub of hot water
Apply ice to peri-anal area
Finger placed inside Rectum
Rectal suppository (e.g. Preparation H)”CAD -“The others are not current”
“Delusional……. but anyway.”The reason I wrote it’s not current is because of this:
I had to go to WikEM to find the source!
“Braman SS. Chronic cough due to chronic bronchitis: ACCP evidence-based clinical practice guidelines. Chest. Jan 2006;129(1 Suppl):104S-115S.
Aagaard E, Gonzales R. Management of acute bronchitis in healthy adults. Infect Dis Clin North Am. Dec 2004;18(4):919-37
Tan T, Little P, Stokes T. Antibiotic prescribing for self limiting respiratory tract infections in primary care: summary of NICE guidance. BMJ. Jul 23 2008;337”
The third one is the most current!
I’ve been proven right again.
Some posters like to prove Chazal was right when they said Chutzpa Yahski.ky -“but I know at least 3 people who have been suspended / under observation by Hatzola for infractions.”
I never said that they didn’t throw out people. Stop with your lying. As a matter of fact, I posted a case were they threw out an EMT for snitching to a Rov about a loss of life.
You could continue to use them, but the reason of my posts is to warn people!
I believed the Frum PC, until I got burnt.If I was running them – hundreds would be removed and e/o would be on camera.
I know you can’t control your rank-outs, but if you decide to respond – try to do it civily.CAD -“.. or the AAP guidelines….or the ACCP guidelines!!!! HAHAHAHA Medscape!!! You crack me up Now you’ve proven you’re a total fraud. A cut and paste web doctor!!! You go ahead and follow “medscape” for your prescribing guidelines…… Hahahaha!!!!! And get a good lawyer while youre at it….youre gonna need one!!! Medscape…….that is teriffic!!!!”
I really don’t know if you practice medicine or once did. But if you do, it shows your incompetence!
The reason I used Medscape, instead of the others, is because they are basing their site on the UK guidelines for Acute Bronchitis, which is current practice. The others are not current.CAD – I’m a honest guy – I didn’t know off label use for Ventolin. But I went to Wikipedia – and they used it as an upper in the Olympics. Also used as tocolytic. Research used for other things.
Ky -“But only because I have not heard any actual complaint. So there is nothing to defend them about or against.”
That’s because you’re so attuned with yourself – you didn’t read my posts!
From page 5:
“The only case of termination that I heard is when an EMT on Hatzola was working with H Medics & and they let the guy die! This EMT went to a Godol for a Din Torah. And the Medics & the leadership were opposing him – so they they threw the guy off!”
Do you need to have the details? And there a lot more cases that I know about.
So keep on playing Russian Roulette, but don’t say that you weren’t warned!Meno -“President Trump linked vaccines to autism on the campaign trail, advocating against “one time massive shots.”
I actually agree that’s not a good idea to give one time massive shots, but the link to autism is ridiculous!
Ky -“But I am defending Hatzola
So your claim that only someone in Hatzola would defend them sorta falls flat.”Granted that your not on Hatzola or their controlling commitee – so why in the world would you defend them? This is a matter of life & death, and if I thought H was capable to do a good job – I would use them for my family. Esp. if you claim that I’m not a medical professional! Why would I call EMS?!?
Hatzola is quicker – most of the time.Ky -“We have a lady (health) who”
I’m Not gonna read the rest of your lies, but I told you many times – I’m not a lady but a male!
So I guess that you’re not that smart – that you can’t remember simple things.Avram -“From what I understand, Ezras Nashim dispatches EMTs, but they don’t provide transport to the hospital, so I have a hard time ascertaining for what situations they intend to provide service. If it is simply to guarantee a frum female presence on the first responding medical team during an emergency, then they should instruct patients to call 911 or Hatzola first, to avoid any delay in transport.”
I’m Not a member of EN, no matter what the posters say. The purpose of EN is to provide a female presence in the case of childbirth. Most cases of childbirth are not life threatening, No matter how the posters demand that they are. So the creation of EN makes sense. If emergency transportation is needed – EN will call EMS. That’s because Hatzola refused to work with them!
Ctrl Alt Del – From Health -“Tell me – when do you treat Bronchitis with antibiotics?”
“Oy……amateur hour. A real giveaway of your internet doctor status. My baser temptation would be to thoroughly embarrass you, with a query that isn’t Google-able, and would lay bare your ridiculousness, but I’m not. Simply because….sometimes you avoid doing things because it lessens you personally. So I am choosing not to lessen myself.
Oh, and PS: short and sweet answer…..you dont.”To E/O – I wanted to see if this guy who claims he knows more than me, is being truthful.
The question I asked was very much to differentiate whether he’s a medical professional or just knows a little, like a paramedic.
It’s quite obvious – he’s Not a medical professional!
He does make a good English teacher. Most Medical professionals in our day and age have a hard time with English.
The answer he gave was a correct answer for a layman!
But the answer for a medical professional should have been like this :
From Medscape:
“Antibiotics, however, are recommended in patients older than 65 years with acute cough if they have had a hospitalization in the past year, have diabetes mellitus or congestive heart failure, or are on steroids.[20]”
Also, antibiotics are helpful in a patient with Chronic Bronchitis, who presents with acute symptoms.IMHO, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
Avram -“Give me two million dollars and I’ll tell you who I voted for!”
By any chance – do you post by any other SN’s?
“I included it as an example that opposition to vaccines is coming from different parts of the political spectrum.”
That’s my point – I doubt he is really opposed. So don’t try to politicize it!
This is purely Medical Science.Avram -“President Trump linked vaccines to autism on the campaign trail, advocating against “one time massive shots.”
Question – Did you vote for Trump?
If not, why are you quoting his absurd comment?!?
He is an actor – not everything he said is 100% truthful.CAD -“At some point I figured you to hold some sort of allied health degree….I’ll stick with that for now. Maybe some sort of technician? Some type of imaging maybe?”
So Mister Know It All – What are my 2 other degrees?!?
“What’s clear is that you haven’t the foggiest idea about how EMS really works, your critique of Hatzolah is amateurish and sophomoric,”
Now Tell Me again – why are you defending them – if you’re Not a member?
“and ive established (for myself at least) that your grasp of critical care is junior grade. (Old conversation we’ve had), as for me, Ive made my credentials as clear as I can (within privacy limits) in older posts.”
Oh that’s right – you said your a PA in an ICU or are you the guy who’s a Medic that lives in Monsey?
Either way – do you have 3 degrees to claim you know more medicine than me?!?CAD -“and ive established (for myself at least) that your grasp of critical care is junior grade”
LOL – All ACLS & ATLS is just memorization! Tell me – when do you treat Bronchitis with antibiotics?
Ubiq -“This EXACT question has been posed to you dozens of times.”
Aren’t you glad that you found out about 1 of my 3 degrees & it didn’t cost you a penny?!?
“It’s cute that you demand honesty of others when you keep repeating this obviously bogus claim (aside from many other lies you’ve been caught in including in this thread that demonstrates it isn’t just me who sees through you)”
Why do you keep calling me a liar?
Is it because you can’t find my SCOTUS case?
I offered to give it to you for 2 million – so how can you say I’m lying?
The truth is – I had a case, but since you proved to be a pain to me, for years, I refuse to give it to you for free!!!Hml – Sorry for your Tzoros! But thanks for posting. I believe the anti – vaxxers are mentally ill or they were so spoiled as kids or even as adults, that they think if vaccines aren’t perfect, we must do away with them!
CAD -“Which really leaves us at the conclusion that: you have some personal bias against Hatzolah that colors your outlook. And having that bias is ok, as long as you’re intellectually honest with yourself and own up to it and not try to clothe it with an air of respectability and authority.”
As a Frum Yid it bothers me to say nothing about their medical care! So of course I have bias.
“Now, given the wealth of information you do NOT posess, I feel this is a mismatched battle as you are unarmed.”
Now why in the world would you make such a comment?
I was a paramedic. And I have 2 other degrees in medicine.
So I’ll repeat – “So why are you defending them?”
Now what degrees to you possess?!?
And try to be honest, if you are capable!Ky-“Man up and say
”I was wrong ”
It won’t hurt as much as you think”I just proved that I was right when I posted -“The only other way to know about their religion is if you practiced it.”
So – Man up and say
”I was wrong ”.
It won’t hurt as much as you think!CAD -“even if you think you do because you’ve taken ACLS a few times.”
Stop with your lying – what do you know about EMS? You’re an eye doc?!?
Are you Mod 80 along with Kluger yid, Ubiq, Feivel, etc.?
And I thought only Joseph played these games!
I guess it’s BORING in the Nursing Home.Yidd23 -“Other EMS can’t cause death–they don’t show up until that’s impossible”
Stop with your lies & sarcasm. Tell them to your wife, if you have one.
CAD -“And how would you know this?”
Any problem with any EMS Call becomes News. It’s Not hidden!
“You are welcome to disagree with facts and statistics, but it certainly doesn’t paint you in a rational light”
What doesn’t paint me in a rational light?
“you mean Hatzolah members, but I am not one.”
So why are you defending them? Unless you’re a Wannabe & gonna show them this YWN topic.
“then you have a moral and ethical imperative to report that.”
Who says I didn’t?!?
“Otherwise you are complicit.”
What??? You obviously don’t know American Law.
“if you did, didn’t understand the nature of what was being done.”
LOL. With this line you surely belong in the Chevra!
You’re right – only they know medicine & I don’t.
You’re getting funnier by the minute!CAD -“What Hatzolah offers is at the very least, on par with any EMS system.”
That’s where I disagree! In the case I just mentioned, the Goyim would get rid of them & maybe other consequenses. And I know of other cases where your group caused death – first hand knowledge!
ky -“Interesting how you had no response to the main thrust of my post”
Ok – here goes:
“I studied their religion”
WHY – It’s Avodah Zora?!?
“I have a neighbor who practises that religion and we argue religion all the time
Same as above but with a coworker”Why waste your time discussing Avodah Zora?!?
ky – “Doesn’t that sort of disprove your point?”
How??? Most people are clueless – when it comes to the practice of medicine!
Unless you will claim that anyone who practices medicine (Eg. Doctors) in the Frum Community must be competent.
There is No such thing as incompetence!CAD – “.it must not have happened,”
That’s your False assumption.
“or was some sort of cover up”
This I believe! Just like I posted in my previous post to you!
Why didn’t they throw the Medics out, instead of the EMT?!?CAD -“to practice under observation, to restriction of privileges, to suspension, to termination.”
LOL!!! You must be a Hatzola guy. The only case of termination that I heard is when an EMT on Hatzola was working with H Medics & and they let the guy die! This EMT went to a Godol for a Din Torah. And the Medics & the leadership were opposing him – so they they threw the guy off!
And btw, it wasn’t me – like I posted many times – I never joined them!APY -“Most people in NYC, for example, call 911 in an emergency, not 230-1000, doesnt make them right either.”
And most Frum Yidden, call Hatzola in an emergency, Not 911, doesn’t make them right either!
ky -“I don’t judge the religion by the crazies.
I judge by the entirety of the religion. And theirs doesn’t make it to first base. On merit! Not based on a few nuts.”The only other way to know about their religion is if you practiced it. DID YOU?!?
Ubiq -“why not sue then in scret supreme court, so nobody can find out about it?”
From this comment it’s obvious that you never found out about my discrimination lawsuit. I thought
that you were going to ask real lawyers. Or for 2 million – I’d give it to you!
HAPPY SEARCHING!CAD – “Having participated in almost every aspect of pre-hospital care, public, private, and volunteer, I can safely say the rate of incompetence amongst all agencies is pretty constant”
This I agree with. But other agencies have options that deal with incompetence. They have supervisors and lawsuits. Try suing H & keeping your kids into Frum schools!
CM -“isn’t going to up and disappear because you don’t like them.”
It has nothing to do with me right now. But I’m letting people know that sometimes when something doesn’t feel right – it isn’t! Don’t keep it to yourself, just because it isn’t PC!!!
APY – “Only a fool will judge an organization made up of thousands of members based on interaction with a handful”
So would you say the same thing about the Missionaries that go around? I mean maybe X-ianty is right – because most people in the US practice it? This is just an illustration about your Genius Statement!
doomsday -“Had the mother gotten harmless Chicken Pox as a child she would have had Permanent Lifetime immunity. Understand?”
I just proved in my previous post – acquiring Chicken pox doesn’t provide Lifetime immunity. UNDERSTAND?!?
KY – I just figured it out! You’re Feivel, Mod 80, Ubiq, etc.
doomsday -“If the mothers got chicken pox while pregnant its because they got the chicken pox vaccine which is TEMPORARY IMMUNITY while getting chicken pox give you LIFETIME IMMUNITY”
Stop with your lies!
Why do you keep changing your screen name?!? Last time it was “Chance”?
From Google:
“Shingles – A reactivation of the chickenpox virus in the body, causing a painful rash.”
I’m Not going to address your other post – because people like you can’t be changed!ky -“There is no issue mentioned there.”
Of course Not!
Facts are irrevelant to guys like you!
Who do you think you are?!?
Why would I mention them on a public forum?
Now start helping your mother or your wife for Pesach.ky – “How do I access that post? I am clueless to these things.”
Here it is – I did you a favor. I didn’t copy the whole post – that you will have to go to see it.
“Ahron -“NY Hatzoloh responds to over 70,000 calls a year and is equipped to treat all kinds of medical emergencies. They are governed by state protocols as are all NY ems systems.”
That’s nice! A lot of people like to play Russian Roulette. How many of those 70 grand are real emergencies?
I admit they do save lives. Nowadays they train laymen to use AED’s, it doesn’t mean they are medical professionals when they regain a pulse, etc…”kj – “Call it what you want it’s still ossur”
And being on the internet is even more Osser!
So why are you?!?
Stop with your hypocrisy!kj -“Your all missing the point, its completely assur for a jewish woman to act in a movie which will be viewed by men”
It’s documentary, not a movie!
And being on the internet is more Osser!“But the lawyer doesn’t listen to those who try to convince her that “when it comes to speed and strength, men are superior.”
That theory was thrown out when the Fire Depts. started to take in Women.
KY -“Really? I just scrolled through all your comments on this thread. There is not a single one there that provides any reasoning or facts to back up your open animosity to Hatzola.
Just saying”First of all, post to me with your other SN, so I know who you really are.
Reasoning is in this post:
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Facts are irrevelant to guys like you!Ky -“a little respect for the readership here”
NOYB -” I really want to know, what’s your issue with hatzalah?”I discussed this already many times. In this topic & a topic called “Hatzola”, and elsewhere in the CR of YWN. I see No point in rehashing time after time!
2scents -“You have no clue who I am”
I have question to you! Did you ever get on Hatzola of Monsey or not?
ky -“that would indicate lashon hara
machlokes is only one issur.”It’s not the first time I discussed H in the CR, so continuing with this discussion is making more Issurim!
“so badmouthing a group of jews without providing any bacground of facts is not fomenting machlokes?”
It was for a Toileles. Providing more info – is just getting more response from them & their supporters.
klugeryid -“health do you mean lashon hara?
because detailed information would possiblyn mitigate that
whereas plain negativity is simply lashon hara with no redeeming qualities”NO! Machlokes. I guess you are Not like your SN!
“um,, yes. chazal seemed to think so.”
I wasn’t talking LeHalacha. This isn’t a Halacha Forum. And btw, with Shabbos, YK, Etc., you have to be Meiat. It’s not a clear cut Chillul Shabbos like a heart attack!
And anyways I was talking according to medicine.BTW, are you a Hatzola member?
NOYB -“Health, what exactly is your gripe with hatzala? I don’t really care if you dislike them, I’m just wondering why”
Are you Joe? I thought that they warned you about multiple SN’s?!?
ky -“Can you provide some detail?”
It’s very hard to answer your question, because of the negative implications. We are talking about many Issurim. I personally don’t call Hatzolah, in most cases. I call EMS. I grant you H has a quick response, but that is only a Small part of EMS!
Joe -“Does anyone think there’s anyone crazy enough to call Ezras Noshim instead of Hatzalah in c”v a potentially life threatening labor situation?”
Your posts are getting funnier by the minute! Tell me – is Labor a life-threatening situation in most cases?!?
YM -“Health, you’ll defend anyone who’s against Hatzlah.
Sour grapes, you”I didn’t come here to bash Hatzola, but unfortunely this topic was started to bash EN!
Stop with your hypocrisy!
This was my first post on this topic:
“Why do you make an assumption & ask it in the CR?
If it’s true, ask the leadership of EN, not the CR! I smell an agenda!”