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Yesr -“They don’t actually believe what they preach”

Yes they do.

“No you didn’t find a case where they did. You didn’t even name the city or time period where it happened. You just gave some vague statement, etc.”

You sound like that there is No such thing.
But the reality is – there is.
People who deny things have Motives – What’s yours?!?

“America’s Most Wanted: The “Satan worshipers” who allegedly killed Kimberly Simon
March 10, 2010
I’ve been working on a Statement against violent crime and vandalism for the Church of Azazel. We absolutely need to finish writing this statement now, because, on Saturday, March 13, America’s Most Wanted will air a show about an old cold case of a murder committed back in 1985, for which the currently suspected perpetrators are a local group of “Satan worshipers.”
Previously another person, Steven Barnes, had been convicted of murdering Kimberly Simon, a 16-year-old who had been attending Whitesboro High School in Oneida County, New York, back in 1985. Last year, Steven Barnes was exonerated after having spent more than twenty years in prison. So the investigation has been reopened.
Suspicion now falls on a group of “Satan worshipers” who had been interviewed by the original investigators and who were not charged with the crime back then.
Here are some relevant news stories:
Satan worshipers possible suspects in Simon slaying by Rocco LaDuca, Utica (New York) Observer-Dispatch, March 9, 2010
Cold case gains national attention, News 10 Now, Central New York, March 9. 2010
America’s Most Wanted to air Kimberly Simon case on March 13, WKTV, Utica, New York, March 8, 2010
One thing strikes me as very odd here: 1985 was at the height of the “Satanic Ritual Abuse” scare, with Christian fundamentalist cops galore running around giving seminars on “Satanic cults.” Little or no serious debunking had been done yet. Back then, hardly anyone questioned the idea that if there were “Satan worshipers” afoot, they were most likely guilty of all manner of mayhem, killing thousands of people every year. That being the case, if indeed there was any valid reason to suspect these “Satan worshipers” of the 1985 murder of Kimberly Simon, why wasn’t this angle thoroughly investigated back then, of all times?”

You sound like the last line.
Maybe they were protecting the Kid Worshipers?!?

Yesr -“However, you own admission of ignorance coupled with the vague statements you are calling “facts” does. So you’re wrong.”

My admission of ignorance was only on this:
“referred to as the “satan scare”, whereby “survivors” of purported satanic human slaughter cults would recount their traumatic experiences, having supposedly witnessed suburban well-off families engage in ritual human sacrifice.”
I never heard anybody claim Something that is called “satan scare”, where they witnessed “suburban well-off families engage in ritual human sacrifice.”

I never heard of this.
But it’s common practice for Youth in Rural America to practice Satan Worship.
Like I said before they don’t usually kill anyone, but I found a case where they did!

Yesr -“There isn’t a single shred of evidence that there is, or ever has been, some massive underground cult of Satanists that routinely murder people. Satan panic, etc.”

Like I posted before, I don’t know anything about Satan panic, etc.
But there such a thing as Satan worship – it’s pretty common in Rural America.
The case I was talking about was a group of young people, probably in their teens.
They weren’t sure whether the girl was put on the Altar or they were afraid she saw them worship and thought she’d snitch.
Either way – she was murdered. I’m sure that there are more cases, but killing for Satan is Not common!

AAQ -” If they will not do anything else, give them things that might help even if unproven in tests.”

That’s your mistake.
Those drugs have many studies that they work.
What happened here in the US, Trump was trying to get a hold of this Pandemic, so pushed HCQ. This didn’t go well with Fauci, so he distanced himself.
The MSM & the Libs used this as an opportunity to make the treatment of Covid 19 into a political fight.
Once they got away with it, just like they got away with Stealing the 2020 election, this empowered them!
So they weren’t afraid to do the Same thing with Ivermectin!

AAQ -“If Lakewood board is control by frum public, could they do something like that rather than just cutting the funds?”

LOL.
Lakewood has a very big P.S. Budget.
They don’t cut funds but they increase them.
The reason being all schools are entitled to bussing including Frum ones, acc. to State Law.

Oh Jackk, -“If they can’t comply, then they will suffer the consequences.”

You’re so interested in protecting your DemonCrat Leadership – you didn’t even begin to understand my post!
I don’t care what happens to the City employees, but my point is the DemonCrat Leadership Don’t care about
Public Health!
Here it is again:
“So obviously the city government isn’t really concerned about Public Health, because come Monday morning they won’t have enough Essential Services!
So there will be a lack of police protection, lack of responding to Fires & Medical Emergencies.
Tons of garbage, which they’ll be Rats & Disease because of it.”

AAQ -“Current peak in Covid deaths in Us is going for last 2 months and is as high as last March and just half off December peak”

So the answer is don’t force people to Vaxx.
Give them a choice – Either vaxx or cheap repurposed drugs.

DY -“So, is it remotely possible that the common denominator isn’t the cost, but rather that they work? And that the reason they didn’t approve Ivermectin and HCQ is because they don’t?”

So I love these Government Sheep that come out of the Woodwork.
We discussed this back in the beginning of the Topic.
Did you go to C19early.com?
There are many Studies that those 2 therapies do work.
Btw, they work better Remedsivir!

The only logical reason that Remedsivir was approved and Not the others, is because some in the Government are getting Kickbacks!

Umm -“What evidence did Shimon Ben Shetach have? He hung the 80 women without trial.”

He had tons of evidence.
Like I previously posted to you – you spend too much time on the Net and not enough time in the Bais Medrash.

Oh Jackk -” he tried to sidetrack him about a document written by someone else. That’s definitely a sign that you have nothing.”

What you don’t understand or what you are trying to manipulate e/o here is very simple.
That document was from a US Attorney.
I’ll repeat it -” when Cotton brought up the letter from some AG that we should prosecute Parents for Domestic Terrorism, if that wasn’t from Garland, Garland should have immediately Fired him and possibly prosecuted him for Violating the First amendment.”

Anyone with a brain knows a US Attorney doesn’t do anything if it isn’t sanctioned from above. That means it came from the AG Garland.
He’s not stupid enough to not deny it.
If he would admit it, he could be prosecuted or be subjected to a lawsuit.
I think that this is just the beginning.
I think Garland’s Goose is Cooked!
These DemonCrats think that they can do whatever they want.
Just like any Dictatorship.
But Hashem put Trump in & he put in a Conservative SCOTUS.
It will first be Garland and then the Rest of these Political DemonCrats!
SCOTUS will stop them from Stepping on the Bill of Rights!

Akuperma -“The idea of zionism, from its origins in the 19th century, was to establish a place where Jews, etc.”

So what’s wrong with Uganda?!?

CK -“Recognize that you are blessed to be born into an affluent community and that not everyone is as lucky as you are.”

I never have seen a poster like you – that is Such a Racist against
Frum people!
You claim all of us are lucky to be born in our community.
That’s true; because of being Frum.
Your insuation that Frum people have money & others don’t is a false narrative. Neither me or parents were ever weathly.
But your Liberalism dictates that’s an excuse for Criminals, whether they’re Black or White.
As a matter of fact, I never heard of Frum poor people, that ever stole or committed Violent Crimes.
So wake up and realize that the DemonCrat/Lib philosophies are just manipulations and Lies on us Normal people!

CK -“Health; Make a cheshbon hanefesh. How often have you used or tolerated racial epithats in the past week; month and year? How often have you described or sat idly by as people described another people as chayos, behomos, monkeys, n-word, shvartzeh, cursed as slaves etc just based on their skin color. Be honest with yourselves and then look in the mirror and say that you are not racially biased.”

Look I don’t answer to s/o who hates all whites, esp. Frum Jews.
Again this post shows what you really are – a BIGOT!
I Don’t judge people because of their Color.
I judge them because of their Actions.
Because the DemonCrats are in Control in a Lot of States – They just didn’t prosecute, eg. Oregon almost 2 years of Violence, but very Few Prosecutions!
OTOH, one day of violence by Right-wingers – Congressional Hearing & Non-Stop Prosecutions, even for Trespassing.

If I was their Defense Lawyer, I’d defend them with – it’s illegal to apply the Law with 2 different Applications.
Do you DemonCrats expect to be taken seriously – when they’re promoting things like CRT so they aren’t responsible for their actions?!? Maybe that’s why they didn’t prosecute a lot of people during all the Riots the last two years?!?

CK -“If you were accused of a crime you would have pidyon shvuyim campaigns getting you the best lawyers in America. When a black American is arrested he is given a court-appointed lawyer”

You’re the biggest Bigot against White people that post here.
No one gets help for Committing a crime or alleged Committing one, whether you’re Frum, White or Black.
The only ones that get help in the Frum community is s/o is being persecuted for No good reason!
The only ones who get government lawyers to defend themselves is s/o who is Poor. No matter who you are.
Stop with the Liberal Lies & Nonsense!

Ubiq -“We need MORE CRT not less!”

I’m not going to argue, like Phil, that there is No systemic Racism against Blacks or anybody else.
Anybody who thinks that CRT is about Discrimination is Lacking in Intelligence.
Including all the DemonCrats that are all for it.

We have laws against Discrimination – they are called Civil Rights Laws.
I posted the definition on page 1.
You obviously didn’t understand it.

CRT is saying that White people have in their Original Make-up that they are Superior than Non-Whites.
This is obviously a LIE.
So if you promote the CRT LIE, you can’t be taken seriously.
If the Gov. forces this on people, this is starting a Civil War against our Laws.
Because the CRT is saying our laws are Not based on Justice, but on Race!

Ubiq -“I provided a defitnion. If you don;t like it you are free to provide your own.”

You provided a definition from Wikipedia.
It doesn’t have any intellectual value, because anybody can post there.

Here’s a definition from Britannica:
“Critical race theory (CRT), – intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.”

It doesn’t sound that anybody who believes in this is Playing with a Full Deck of Cards!
But the DemonCrat position is that this should be taught in all schools.
Please tell me how this definition is Logical or just based on excuses for Non-white people?!?

AAQ -“Don’t respond after reading the first sentence”

And I wrote this -“etc”.
Do you know what that means?

“In the Jewish community, I know people who were and who were not affected.”

That really wasn’t my point.
Do you anybody who died because of Covid 19?

GH -“Republicans simply walk out to block a quorum w/o providing a coherent policy rationale.”

That they learned from the Texas DemonCrats to stop the Quorum!

AAQ -“I looked at summary tables of studies that list effect, number of participants and in some case quality (low, very low), etc.”

So your answer should have been – No, I did not.
But instead you tried a manipulation.

Has this Pandemic affected you personally?
I know quite a few people that have died from it.
This government has a done a very Poor job, under Biden, to mitigate this Virus!
It’s just Vaccines, Renegron or Remdisivir.
That’s why you have the amount of dead people that you have.
And don’t come back and say the Pharmaceutical companies are making more.
We don’t Need more Expensive drugs!
We need Cheap, Repurposed Drugs that work against Covid 19!