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To Good Heart,
I fail to see the shailah here. What does helping someone have to do with tzinus? There are two sides to a carriage. I find it very ironic that people here are saying they only do what poskim tell them -Didn’t they hear the Kol Koray against the internet?! There are two Yetzer Horahs -the frumme and the freyeh one. Don’t listen to either!
To Mosh,
I personally don’t know any endocrine docs, but if you do a superpages look up, you’ll find 3 male jewish-named docs in the BP area. Not much of a choice, but at least there are 3.
To Metziut,
In most cases family and friends make better shidduchim,(than shadchonnim) in my case my family ruined my life. I think the best thing is to find your mate on your own without go betweens.
One of the biggest mistakes in life is to make generalizations. Not all men are un/insensitive, nor do all expect women to bend over backwards for them. Nor are all hypocrites when it comes to backgrounds. In relationships, you can’t focus on the negative, you have to focus on the positive. If you don’t learn this early on in life, you will have a misreable life. In our generation, we have somehow convinced ourselves that we are perfect and therefore need the perfect mate. If people would be honest and stop trying to hide all imperfections, married life would be happier for most people because they wouldn’t have too much expectation from their spouses. Plus, if you think you’re perfect, you will never be able to reach perfection because you won’t realize what your chesronos are -to try to correct them!
Every day they are coming out with new meds for type 2. There are so many- my head is spinning. If you aren’t able to keep tight glucose control with one, try another.
To SC,
People who are doing chesed at home aren’t posting that they are bored/ free time!
What happened to women running to do chesed?
To simchaallthetime,
While scientifically you are correct -you prove the point a little knowledge is dangerous. Type 1 diabetics are usually prescribed a set amount of insulin. The Mayo clinic says -“People with diabetes on rapid insulin meal coverage need to develop their skills at portion control so they can match their rapid insulin to the total grams of carbohydrate they are eating for better glucose control”. In other words type 1’s also need to be on a diet. If diabetics would follow your advice, not only would they have poor glucose control, a lot would go into DKA. So no, Type 1’s can’t have “AS MUCH SUGAR AS THEY WANT”. Even with the pump they wouldn’t have that tight control that they need.
I think that along with improving one’s mitzvos, whether bain odom l’mokom or bain odom l’chaveiro, it’s vital that the choleh makes the right histadlus. In our generation especially when there are a lot of medical options everyone all of a sudden becomes an expert. I believe the pt. should seek out the best; when it comes to cancer, the best is Memorial Sloan-Kettering.
Artsy,
Here is a list of treatments -I’d be suprised if you tried all of them:
Treatments for more advanced psoriasis include narrow-band UVB light, psoralen with UVA light retinoids (eg, isotretinoin [Accutane], acitretin [Soriatane]), methotrexate (particularly for arthritis), cyclosporine (Neoral, Sandimmune), infliximab (Remicade), etanercept (Enbrel), adalimumab (Humira), and alefacept (Amevive).
To prevent a hangover headache: Take a pill of Advil or two aspirin before you go to sleep -Don’t take any Tylenol!
Even if you decide to use chiropractic care (as opposed to oomis and others who think-even though I’m trained in conventional medicine -I’d be against it-you can try it. You will know if it works -if the curve becomes smaller.) I personally think you’re reading into the doc’s words too much -all surgeons say between 40 -50 you have to CONSIDER surgery. Bracing does work- if you look at the literature, but what usually happens is that the kids don’t wear it long enough. It should be worn about 95% of the day -a lot of kids take it off because of peer pressure. You have to have a honest convo with your kid and tell him/her that it’s either the brace 24/7 or it’s surgery. As far as second opinions go -my opinion is medicine isn’t a supermarket -you don’t pick and choose. But, how do you know who is right? In my opinion you go to the best. The hospital for special surgery has been ranked the best. They have a group of docs who work under the scoiliosis service. These docs are probably the best in the world or close to it. I would trust them for whatever they say and use them if they would recommend going for the surgery. They have a web site for info.
To here or there,
The only way you don’t qualify is if you’re making too much money. College isn’t a freebe for those that can afford tuition. Also, however you are paying your expensives now, is how you pay them while you are going to college. Financial aid isn’t supposed to cover your living expensives.
To here or there,
Your life is not over. You should go back to school. You can become a (even if you are male)nurse in 2-3 years and probably get a job even in todays environment. Hashem requires every person to try -sucess is up to him. Also, nowadays there is no such thing as near retirement age. Retirement age should have gone out the window when the life expectency increased in this country.
To tzippy,
Sorry to disappoint you, but the gedolim don’t differentiate between vaccines. Most medical professionals hold you should get vaccinated against H1N1.
Do any of you have one shred of proof that it’s dangerous or even addicting -smoking one day a year?
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To editor,
You seem to say everything I post is a personal attack on others. What about the guy who called people who smoke an idiot? You have to be evenhanded when you edit people. Most of my posts are mild compared to others here.
This is a thread about smokers. To say a negative comment about smokers in general is one thing. Personal attacks on a particular poster are another.
Here is a quote from your last deleted post:
“I don’t appreciate your accusations that are baseless…I hope you don’t have any children because if you don’t let them do anything they will rebel on everything you say.
I don’t know why you think you are a know-it-all. Do you have Smicha or a degree in psychology or medicine? The way you talk it sounds like you do!
BTW, if everything is Ossur, why are you on the internet?”
You can think what you want about the fairness of your posts being edited and deleted, but this subject is closed. Be concerned about the Derech Eretz of YOUR posts and not others, then your posts will not be modified.
If you poison them, you don’t have to worry about how to kill them or getting bitten.
I just let my fish (when I had them) die on their own. Why euthanize them -who said they’re in pain when they’re sick?
The gedolim held it was muttar, no matter how dangerous. The only reason you can say it’s ossur -is for the reason that I posted. As far as second-hand smoke, I don’t think anybody would matter, but that doesn’t make smoking totally ossur!
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You’re not getting the message. No personal attacks towards other posters please.
To 1st timer,
It’s not antibiotics, it’s anti-fungals.
There is a prescription product called Loprox -it comes in a lotion and in a nail lacquer. You have to file down the nail every so often, but it usually will solve the problem. This can take months or longer, but you don’t take it internally.
To mazal,
You used the wrong Tom Cat product, their poison works great. D-con poison doesn’t work so well. I think Tom Cat is just as good or better than an exterminator and definitely a lot cheaper.
To ydu,
I was never discussing the fact whether any store should sell tobacco products. If you feel that this should be illegal- lobby your legislators to make it illegal. What I was saying is that pharmacies are like any other store and they have the right to sell what they want. If you hold selling tobacco products is immoral, then this would apply to any store selling them, not just pharmacies.
Also, OTC products have all the drug info on the box; the books about drugs -like the Pill book for non-medical people are for prescription drugs.
I also said I don’t believe that someone who smokes once in a blue moon is considered a smoker! But my post was edited.
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Rav Moshe Feinstein Zt’l knew of the dangers and paskened it was mutter anyway. I tried to explain this in some of my previous posts. Just because something is dangerous doesn’t mean the Torah forbids it; there is a heter called “Hakol Doshin Bo” (Everybody does it). What I did say, was that I personally don’t believe that this heter applies anymore, because there has been a dramatic decrease in the amount of smokers since the time that Rav Moshe was alive.
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To ydu,
I never wrote the word “immediate” no where in my post did I say not to use alternative medicines. a pharmacy is a business. They are trying to make a profit, not just sell things that are healthy or help cure you. They sell a lot of products nowadays, not just medicines; as opposed to health food stores which are specialty stores servicing a certain type of consumer. Also, you don’t need a PDR to find side effects on OTC products, they are right on the package.
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To yankdownunder,
What is not so? Did you get offended that I didn’t mention alternative therapies? I didn’t mention any alternative products because I personally don’t know any that work on canker sores. I don’t think someone has to try all or any of the natural products before they seek medical care.
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To eelleerr,
You are wrong, if someone has ulcers that don’t go away with OTC products let them seek medical care -we have many options. But you are right that most of times they will go away by themselves or with the use of the OTC products. But if nothing seems to work seek medical care -we can help!
To anuran,
Logically you would be correct, but you can’t do anything illegal. So I see no problem if someone smokes once in awhile, as long as it doesn’t go more than that. It also helps lessen the taavoh, if I can smoke on Purim -I’ll see smoking isn’t the greatest thing since sliced bread.
5. Sue You.
To oomis,
We were talking if it’s similar enough to get the heter of “Hakol Doshin Bo”; it doesn’t have to be exactly the same. Also, as far as I know this heter only applies to smoking yourself -whether you are oiver “Guard your health exceedingly”, it doesn’t apply to smoking around someone else. If you smoke around someone else & they don’t want to breathe in second-hand smoke, there should be no heter. (Children we would assume don’t want to breathe in smoke -you don’t ask them.)
To oomis,
I agree with you- people shouldn’t smoke -I think I posted it many times. I also said if I was a Poisek, I would say it was OSSUR! But, my posts were discussing the Halacha aspect of smoking. The reason Rabbonim permitted it was because it’s more similar to crossing a street than it is to jumping off a building. So you can apply the heter of “Hakol Doshin Bo”. Granted, there are many reasons a person smokes, but the main reason is not that he wants to hurt himself as opposed to jumping off a building. You should know crossing a street is dangerous -I think there is a pedestrian accident every 45 minutes in NYC.
Why don’t you try salicylic acid 40% and pare it down with a blade once a week? The OTC acid isn’t strong enough.
To bombman,
I see you’ve been too long in Yeshiva. The reason that smoking can possibly be compared to crossing the street (even though I think you can’t compare it anymore -see previous post.) and not to jumping off buildings is because the purposes are different.
When you jump off a building -the main purpose is to hurt yourself (even if you think you can fly) -this is the basic purpose of your actions. When you cross a street- it’s to get to the other side. When you smoke it’s to enjoy the smoke. The Torah would never matter an action whose main purpose (eg. jumping from some high place) is to hurt yourself since you can use the stairs or elevator. In other words, normal people don’t jump off buidings just because they need to get to the ground floor!
To esu,
You missed the point -noone said not to look on the good days and use them as a building block.
To oomis,
There is a heter on the issur of “Guard your life exceedingly” that if everybody does it -you aren’t oiver the issur. (Like crossing a street, even though it’s somewhat dangerous.) Rav Moshe relies on this to say smoking is Mutter. My point is that was awhile ago, nowadays due to health concerns- a lot of people aren’t smoking, so it’s hard to make the claim of “Everybody’s doing it!”
To aj-brisk,
My point wasn’t to list names, but want I want to know is the reason they hold muttar? Is it still because Hakol Doshin Bo or for another reason?
To happiest,
Day to day isn’t that important, it’s the long run. Even people without illness have ups and downs. Make sure your meds are working and you are going to your therapist at least once a week.
To AJ -Brisk,
Can you quote me the names of the poskim that still hold Rav Moshe’s Psak still stands? I remember seeing it inside many moons ago and I remember him writing because of Hakol Doshin Bo is it muttar. That heter is very unlikely nowadays due to the fact many people quit and a lot less people are starting due to health concerns. It’s not similar to crossing a street anymore, were you can still say HAKOL Doshin Bo!
To 1st timer,
Probably M. furfur. Look at it with KOH. Then you can use either Selsun blue shampoo or a tar shampoo. You can also use Ketoconazole shampoo which will kill the M. furfur.
Agug -You can claim anything you want about obesity, but that doesn’t make it true. Stop spreading the lies -“it’s been proven to cause more sicknesses than smoking -it’s the leading cause of death…conditions in the world”. If you have even one scientific journal, article or source that supports your “facts” please post them. I know you don’t because I’m in the Health Sciences. When I was questioned about smoking addiction – I quoted the medical sources. (See coffee room – “Smoking habit”.) It’s not nice to make up facts, so you shouldn’t be wrong. BTW, do you even know what the leading cause of death worldwide is? It sounds like you are trying to manipulate the readers to your point of view. You want to smoke? Go ahead; many people do, but don’t make false claims just because you feel guilty. And no, I don’t believe you when you say that you’re a non-smoker. You lost your chezkas kashrus with all your posts!
Tamazaball -medicine is always practiced stepwise. If the weaker, OTC things don’t work, then you progress to the stronger things. I’m glad the OTC things are working in your case.
To Wahoo,
Check out these sites -they have many treatment options. Google – Plantar warts- Emedicine health. Plantar warts – Mayo clinic.
Yup, plenty of kids, bochurim, yungerleit and Rebbeyim have problems. In every group in this world there are mentally ill people. I haven’t found a group without some. But, my idea for therapists in the Yeshiva setting wasn’t for therapy, that- they can get elsewhere. And that would depend on a variety of factors what type of therapy they would receive- either group or individual. My idea was for the psychologists in yeshivas to do evaluations. Find out discreetly who indeed is in need of mental help.
To best bubby,
You don’t need a chemist to make it up -I’ve seen it already packaged OTC in some pharmacies.
To tamazaball,
If all these therapies don’t work, post it because I have a lot more treatments that I can let you know about.
It’s easy to cure the physical addiction. A Doctor, PA or NP justs writes a script and takes care of the physical part. What is hard is the psychological addiction to get rid of. Going to shrinks will help in this area. Like I posted before, there are many reasons you need shrinks in a Yeshiva, not just for smoking.
To bombman,
As it happens you are wrong!
“Nicotine addiction is classified as nicotine use disorder according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR).” (This is considered the bible on mental illness.)
“Addiction is marked by the repeated, compulsive seeking or use of a substance despite its harmful effects and unwanted consequences. Addiction is defined as physical and psychological (mental and emotional) dependence on the substance. Nicotine is the addictive drug in tobacco. Regular use of tobacco products leads to addiction in many users.”
From the American Cancer Society:
“In 1988, the U.S. Surgeon General concluded the following:
Cigarettes and other forms of tobacco are addicting.
Nicotine is the addicting drug in tobacco.
The ways people become addicted to tobacco are much like those that lead to addiction to other drugs such as heroin and cocaine
About 70% of smokers say they want to quit and about 40% try to quit each year, but only 4% to 7% succeed without help. This is because smokers not only become physically addicted to nicotine; there is a strong emotional (psychological) aspect and they often link smoking with many social activities. All of these factors make smoking a hard habit to break.”
To bombman,
You are arguing against the mental health community. I’m not part of them, but they hold addictions are a mental health catergory. Smoking is an addiction, not just a habit!
To compare obesity to smoking that it also should be assur is ridiculous. While I’m not advocating being overweight, scientifically we have never proven a direct link to life threating illnesses like we have with smoking. Did you know smoking DIRECTLY causes Heart disease and Cancer?!
I had a dog once on my porch. What I think happens is that it’s owner wasn’t too careful and the dog got loose. Dogs aren’t too bright and if they wander too far from home (in other words- got lost) they decide that your house is their’s. So they follow you and won’t leave. In other words they think you are it’s owner. I could have kept the dog, it’s even better than buying one because it’s already loyal to you. I couldn’t because I would be the talk of the neighboorhood, because very few frum Jews own dogs. Also, if you decide to keep it, maybe one day the owner will sober up and come looking for his dog. If he finds it, you will have to give it up and this will be very hard to do after you have grown close to it. So what did I do? I called animal control and they took it to the pound!
You can use Peroxyl -this has hydrogen peroxide in it, that the other posters mentioned, in a pleasant taste. You can swish with this a few times a day. You can also use Listerine. My advice with the Listerine is -instead of swishing with the whole thing (because it burns), put some on a Q-tip and dab the sore every couple of hours.