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Wolf – I never said 7 years isn’t long enough to formulate an opinion. As a matter of fact people here I’m sure, gave opinions who never stepped foot in the place. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but someone’s opinion of a place who spent a long time there is probably more valuable than someone who only spent 7 years there.
Proud mom2 -I never said Lakewood is a great place to live. I just made a suggestion about Lakewood. I don’t think either are great places and definitely not NY. EY ain’t bad, but it won’t be great till moshiach comes.
Allsgr8 -Not everyone who practices medicine is a doctor. EMT’s, NP’s, PA’s, certified midwives, nurse anesthesists, all practice medicine and aren’t doctors. But I get your point.
Phil. -I do agree that all the BT makers and orgs. that there are -I find a lot of them are good at it, but then they throw the BT’s to the wolves so to speak. I don’t agree on giving up on people who are going or are OTD. I feel it’s more important to stop people from going off than it is to make BT’s!
Justsmile613 -7 years is not a lot of time. Why don’t you compare prices? The COOP is much cheaper, even though Seven-mile is much nicer. I personally like Balto. more than Lakewood, but for reasons beyond the scope of a public blog.
Aries -Thank you -I know I need it.
justsmile613 -Did you or do you live there? And for how long? I know plenty of people who moved from Ballimore to Lakewood. (Not than I’m promoting Lakewood.)
“Everyone gets along” – A little bit of an exaggeration, wouldn’t you say?
“There is NO machlokes between different types of Yiddin” -Yea, because there is only one type -Litvaks and Yekkes. And how much do you think rent in Lakewood is? And what’s so great about Seven-mile Market over -let’s say the COOP? The COOP is cheaper.
Wolf -“And, interesting enough, there are some portions of our community where ONLY a sheitel is accepted. Lubavitch comes to mind.”
Also interesting enough, I know women from Malachim (an offshoot of Chabad), that will only wear Tichlach!
Move to Lakewood, like everyone else.
Mod -72- why would you delete it? It’s much healthier to be skinny
Dave Hirsch -While you are correct in your statement -many poskim did assur shaitels altogether. Maybe the reason was because they knew that one day people would wear these long shaitels to make themselves look better than if they would go with their hair uncovered.
You aren’t allowed to lie about a shidduch, but you don’t have to offer the info -they have to ask. Saying tell me about him/her isn’t called asking – they have to ask specifics. Also telling white lies or outright lies -if the person is made to think differently than the reality it’s Genevas Daas. All the cases of the gemorrah that’s mutter fall under Sholom. Redding a shidduch and lying doesn’t fall under the catergory of Sholom.
Forever1 -That’s why I said “usually”!
Allsgr8 -Most people have type 1 from a young age -therefore it helps them stay skinny.
Aries -It’s not up to me now, but it will be soon and I’m not becoming a doc. But, I doubt I’ll go into surgery, probably some sort of primary care, eg. Internal med, ER or maybe allergy.
That’s what great about being a type 1 instead of type 2. The type ones are usually skinny.
Aries -” They will not do surgery on obese people who refuse to or will not follow a regimen they give them to lose some weight on their own.” Nor should they, but what they are looking at is the commitment more than the weight loss. But, there are a few people who say they will do all the things they are supposed to do after surgery, but don’t. The doc isn’t a policeman.
“Your brain will tell you that you are full but if your emotions block your brain signals and you keep stuffing yourself you will throw up and the fact that you are heaving can cause physical complications to your surgical site, not to mention your esophagus. And then what happens to an emotional eater after they throw up? They will sit down and eat again, throw up again, eat again etc.”
Again, and this is why you need a multi-pronged approach. If they don’t go for therapy and to a dietician, these problems can occur. But these reasons aren’t enough to tell people don’t have the surgery, because most people are at the end of their rope. Sure you’ll find people who get around the system, but that’s not enough to say -No one should go for this surgery!
Everybody -please use spell check!
Coffeefan -There aren’t that many frum singles in medicine believe it or not.
Ben Levi -Wrong post. I was talking about this one: “There are many possible problems with therapy and therapists! Therefore, there should be a stigma for it! Therapists are the answer to have more freedom to do forbidden things (TV, movies, internet, etc.) while trying to prevent the destruction they cause! There are times therapists are needed but it is way over used! Another thing, adding vinegar to the best wines will ruin it no matter how much you paid for it! So to, taking goishe psychology courses will affect your hashkofos no matter how big a talmid chochom you are!”
Go out with men who work in medicine -since they already have experience dealing with sick people. (Sick -as in diagnosed with medical issues.)
Jewish courage -I disagree. If the therapist is a frum yid- he will remain with his Torah haskafos. Who gave you the right to passel all therapists? While you did get a lot of support from bloggers -you still wrote Motzay Shem Rah!
Aries – I don’t know what you’re talking about -lose weight first? They come for the surgery because they can’t. I never said they need a one -on -one trainer -you said that. Here are some requirements from a lap band web site: “Your serious weight loss attempts have had only short-term success.
You are not currently suffering from any other disease that may have caused your excess weight.
You are prepared to make major changes in your eating habits and lifestyle. You do admit “they have a therapist and a nutritionist on their team “, but the patient doesn’t take advantage of them. Like I said the doctor isn’t a policeman. The doc makes sure all this is in place, but he isn’t going to force you to do the right thing -this is up to you. As far as exercise is concerned, you don’t have to prove this as far as the doctor is concerned, but if you want insurance to pay for it… Insurance requires you to prove you have been seriously trying to lose weight -i.e. exercise, diet pills, diet books, weight loss programs, food plans. If you can’t prove that you have been seriously trying to lose weight, good luck on getting them to pay for it.
So what about women going to spend the evening with friends at a restaurant stam a zoi, not for an occasion, is this mutter too?
Aries -You missed the point – No reputable surgeon will do either procedure, if the patient hasn’t already tried all the things you mentioned. Patients who get surgical clearance are at the end of their rope. What sometimes happens is -the surgeon asks about these things and the patient says “Of course I have.”, but the patient really hasn’t or hasn’t tried hard enough. Like I said before, the doctor isn’t a policeman; if you lie, you are only hurting/fooling yourself!
Two of close relatives of mine had cancer. Now bli ayn hora, both are B”H fine. CA isn’t a death sentence anymore! Also, care has to be invidualized; not everything needs Sloan-Kettering Medical Center.
Forever -Allsgr8 listed two. Here’s more: fast heart rate (first slow), high bp (first low), breathing fast, pale, palpitations, weakness, twitching, nausea & vomiting, air hunger. Possibly convulsions and/or coma later.
Allgr8- And I thought rebbitzen was talking about going out for the first time after she was diagnosed as a diabetic. I guess my mind is too much on medicine.
Tralala- Winkies are a bad idea. They sell glucose pills in the drug store; this way you know how much sugar you’re getting (mg/gm).
Aries -“If the person has terrible eating habits, this isn’t going to help her because she will be sick after the surgery. She will continue to eat poorly and throw up after eating. She needs to work with a nutritionist and a therapist to understand why she is sabotaging herself. She would probably be better off paying for a personal trainer to work one on one with her to make sure she gets into an exercise routine she enjoys and can stick with and an eating plan she can enjoy and stick with.”
While you’re correct with all these things, usually the patients have tried all of this and now they are out of options. You must continue to do all these things after the surgery. The surgery is in addition to all these things. What happens is the patient wants to blame the doctor when things go wrong. The doctor did tell the patient all these things, but the patient got lazy and stopped all what he/she was supposed to do. It’s like a smoker who gets medication for his habit. If you don’t get rid of the cigarettes, nothing will ever work. The MD/PA/NP isn’t your policeman. Also, the lap band is safer than gastric bypass surgery.
Everyone speaks loshon hora and has sinas chinum. Just because everyone does it, doesn’t make it right. This is why we are in the 9 days!
Chance – why start another thread just to push your conspiracy theories on others? You have posted in many different threads the same nonsense. Not only are you doing a disservice to yourself, but you might be hurting other people. A friend of mine got the mumps because of the epidemic going around the frum community recently because the original person wasn’t vaccinated. The diseases that we vaccinate against can be deadly, but you seem to turn a deaf ear to this!
Yes, milk has protein in it. An interesting fact about coffee, if it’s caffeinated -Caffeine can cause hypoglycemic symptoms even with a BS at 75 -80 mg/dl.
I wasn’t saying frei people don’t deserve to have chessed done to them; I was saying if somehow you knew 100% that they didn’t deserve it, I was giving a reason to do it anyway.
Allsgr8 – I’ll try and answer you now. Protein can be converted to sugar. I posted this before. This usually occurs during a fasting state, but doesn’t have to. Maybe when you eat chicken -your body digests it slowly and then uses the protein to build other protein. But, when you eat eggs, your body quickly digests it and all of a sudden you have a lot of protein in you -some of the protein is used for your metabolic protein needs and the extra is converted to sugar like I expained in previous posts.
Why should we do chessed to a frei person if they don’t deserve it? Why on Purim does it say “Anybody who sticks out a hand -we give them money”, the rest of the year we are allowed to look if they are indeed needing of Tzedaka? The answer is (that I heard), on Purim a lot of people ask for things from Hashem more than the rest of the year. The day is M’sugal for our tefillos to be answered. But Hashem always judges us up Midda keneged midda, what if we don’t deserve the thing we are asking for? Therefore, we don’t ask a person collecting Tzedaka on Purim if they deserve it -so when Hashem judges up on Purim -he will say midda keneged midda -just like that person didn’t look at the poor person before he gave him money to see if he deserved it -I’ll also not look at the person who is davenning to me to see if he deserves what he is asking for. The same thing with a frei person -if we don’t look at whether they are deserving of the chessed, but do it anyway -then when we need a chessed -Hashem won’t look at us to see if we deserve it!
As someone who works/trains in medicine, and has experience in EMS, while these are good ideas, they are definitely not the most important. As far as Ice is concerned, I never had to look up phone numbers in a cell. Almost 95% of the time emergencies occur in their own home or business, where there are people who know the victim. Any notifications are usually done by them.
I’ll tell you what will make a difference to victims that can be done by bystanders. If everyone would know CPR and first aid, this can really make a difference in emergency victims lives. When you say seconds count -this cuts down on those seconds. And when I say know CPR and first aid, I don’t mean someone who took a course umpteen years ago. You must refresh (take a refresher course) every one – two years, depending on whether you have AHA or ARC certification. All other certifications follow either AHA or ARC guidelines. I hope you will never have to use them, but if need be, at least you can feel you did whatever you could to help out!
“I will not get into how my freinds and I helped a friend that went OTD without any alterior motives, we just felt compasionate for her because she was in a very bad situation.
We went out of our way for her, but there was no thank you no appreciation, her basic manners were lacking. So of course, some will say, yeah well she was hurting, blah, blah and she could’t even say thank you, blah blah blah. My freinds and I felt washed out and used and just stopped giving.
So the truth is if you don’t expect too much from people you can’t get burnt. Yes, that sentence was a mistake on my part because some people don’t expect basic appreciation in return for their work.”
Perhaps you meant well, but maybe your friend didn’t take it that way or maybe it didn’t come out that way. The world is full of well meaning people who end up doing a lot of NOT nice things!
Oomis and others who know or know of people on drugs. Most drug addicts will not recover. Some will remain sick, others will die young. The methadone clinics don’t work. There are a few medical professionals who use different drugs and they are much more successful. I personally have trained by one of these Docs.
Allsgr8 – I had a very long post, but with one not so nice line in it. They deleted the whole thing. Maybe if you ask them -they can edit it and put it up. If not I’ll answer you in a few days when I have time.
Surgeons are like the highest paid professionals in this country. I would never work in surgery. They give up their life for money. They have no life besides sugery. At least their family have a good life with all that money. Do you work to live or do you live to work?
DH -There are plenty of right wing political gedolim who held going to college was mutter. Don’t ask me to name them. I don’t want to be oiver l’fnei michshol -You might come to mevazeh these gedolim and end up losing your chelek olam habah. There is a reason that Chaim Berlin, Torah v’das and Ner Israel allow college, besides others. It’s not even the Rosh Hayeshivos nowadays, this Shailoh was presented to gedolim probably before you were born.
mdd -So how did you become frum?
Allsgr8 – I did answer you, but the whole post was deleted. Maybe YWN can start editing the posts instead of deleting all of it.
Mdd -You obviously didn’t understand my post. Why don’t you have your Rabbi who made you frum, to explain it to you!
MDD – Wrong -That one case made me realize that when the torah says “Oobmechut Hameshulush Lo B’mehara Yenawsake” (A rope with 3 strands doesn’t quickly get untied.); this can be applied to a FFB marrying a BT. The FFB is more likely to be anchored in his/her religion!
Forever 1 -The first question I would ask is -Do you eat/drink (even a little) on the fast days?
Mdd -I didn’t pass judgement on all BT’s. I just said BT’s should marry BT’s. You, on the other hand, just passed judgment on all FFB’s. BTW, I know a lot of BT’s. Just in general, I don’t think a lot of people in our generation are given very hard nisyonos because I don’t think most of them could handle it.
Speaktruth -You’re still looking at the world with rose colored glasses -I’m past that stage.
Mdd – A lot of reasons. The main one I feel is because of someone I know. A couple -BT & FFB had bad nisyonos in life. The BT wasn’t able to withstand due to the fact that he/she wasn’t anchored as well as the FFB. The BT reverted to the way he/she was. The FFB remained frum.
Allsgr8 -This is the last time I’m responding to you. You seem to have a hard time listening to someone other than yourself. I know what the treatment is for DKA, but the discussion was -are there other treatment options? And the answer is in the affirmative.
The body will produce glucose from its’ own proteins during a fast after a certain amount of time of fasting (gluconeogenisis). The body can also use proteins that you injest to produce glucose (Also gluconeogenisis). (See previous post how this works biochemically.)
Ballei Mussar say in order to be bechira -a human can’t know there is Hashem -that’s why it’s a belief. No creation would dare break any of the Torah if Hashem was as clear as night and day. That’s why animals (on their own) and malachim can’t sin -Hashem is clear to them. That is the purpose of this world to get schar for keeping the Torah and ch’vs punishment for not. If Hashem was clear to every human -there would be no purpose to this world. It says Tzaddik Bemunoso Techyeh -It is only with emmunah does the Tzaddik live. If it was that everybody knew clearly -then everybody would be a Tzadik -it’s not possible otherwise.
1. Rosh yeshiva 2. Kollel 3. Moderator for YWN. Nothing else even comes close.
I wish I didn’t go to college and I’m still waiting for that Gvir (rich guy) to give me his daughter and support me forever!