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Mod -80 -“this point is not really arguable by anyone who has a depth of understanding of Torah and our history.”

No one was arguing the point of “Niskatnu hadoros”

“(in this case to say that our matziv of immoral taivah and weakness is less than earlier generations)is a terrible darkness and could never have happened before our time of massive foolishness and CHUTZPA.”

If someone else would have posted this it would have been deleted. “Kol haposel b’momo posel.” Btw, it’s a gemorrah that says the yetzer hora for Giluy Aroyos is less than previous generations. The gemorrah says Chazal destroyed the yetzer hora for avodah zorah and tried to destroy the yetzer hora for Zenus, but the world including the animals stopped reproducing. So Chazal blinded it. It’s now weakened. How is it weakened? There is no more taivah for relatives. But this doesn’t mean that the rest of the taivah for non-relatives is just as strong or stronger. It could be in a weakened state, even though it exists. In Yehdah’s generation the Yetzer Hora for Arayos was greater than later generations.

If you are Jewish -it’s a mitzvah to get married, even for women. This isn’t a topic for a frum site. Close the topic now -there is nothing to discuss.

OOmis – No Rov is condoning speeches for men and women to get to know each other. The shadchan in that senario just works with a small group of people to make shidduchim. They don’t do it on their own. I personally don’t see anything wrong with people doing it on their own. People can get to know each other in Coed schools or in the workplace.

OOmis – I doubt the Rov meant then and there. Just the shadchunnim at that shiur would make shidduchim amongst the group, just with members of that group. Then they could go out at a later time.

Pashuteh yid – Kamyan z”l used to say -“How are you mekadesh the Levanah- with Kesef, Shtarr or etc…?”

yitzy – And then what happens they get a nasty infection in their foot because they never cleaned it or went to a doc to clean it because they never felt it. You would be surprised how many patients are in the hospital for this reason. Also the diabetics don’t heal well. If the wound doesn’t heal, then the diabetics end up with amputations. This btw, is way too common.

Apusutayid -“Touro College is separate by design,because its what halacha wants, not because “that’s what the customers want”.”

Your story might be true that you heard, but it doesn’t mean that’s the reason. Touro made a school in Flatbush to cater to frum Jews, not because they held you can’t have a coed school, because they have coed schools. Once you have a separate school with mostly frum Jews, they weren’t going to change it to coed. There is no such halacha saying you can’t go to coed schools, that’s something you made up.

Dunno -“I don’t know who you’re in contact with but I have spoken to many Touro students who would love for it to become mixed.” It’s obvious that you asked a few guys in your class and they all said “Yea, sure.” Who said they really mean it? Secondly, if they do maybe their parents won’t allow it. If the reality was like you, the students would just go to Touro in Manhattan or elsewhere. Stop trying to say the school wants it. The school couldn’t care less. They are filling a void where the student body (whether themselves or their parents) insist on a separate learning atmosphere.

Dunno -You’re wrong. It is the students who don’t want mixed schools. (If not them, then their families.) Like I said before, if the students are more modern and want mixed schools, they can go to other Touro schools or YU or wherever. Don’t try to push your haskafos on others in the name of finding shidduchim.

Dunno- But I know. Most of Touro’s colleges are mixed and they have a hard time getting frum people to go to them, so it’s mostly goyishe students. They started the non-mixed schools to attract frum people to learn in a frum environment and BTW they are being very successful with this.

What is P3?

Josh -I’m looking for someone to give me some Maan -ya know anyone?

I unfortunately never found anyone to help me out in this regard. And as far as I know, there is only one company that sells oil even if there are two names. You might try Hess -I think he might deal with oil and no he doesn’t own Hess oil company.

Mod -80- You’re misunderstanding Philo. I understood it like you, but she says she didn’t mean it that way. Re-read her post. She just meant telling them to come in without giving them a choice, but no forcing, yelling or screaming. Hardly the connotation that comes to mind with her original description. That’s why I said literally, even though I didn’t mean literally as opposed to her exaggerated definition of the word “dragging”.

Forever 1- When did I compare myself to a doctor or specialist? Two posters here said I have no right to comment because I’m not at that level. So not true -I have every right to comment as a medical professional even if there are others on higher levels than me!

Cofeefan -You can ignore what I post just like I can ignore what you post. Mod- 72- I haven’t seen anyone “attack or put down people with diabetes”, like you say. And just because you don’t like what I say doesn’t make it -“unqualified “medical” advice”. BTW, Rebbitzen asked a question on page 6 -why don’t the both of you answer it?

When did I compare myself to diabetics? And you didn’t answer the question that I asked.

Maxwell -my other post was deleted -so I’ll try again -“Rav Aharon Kotler ZT’L made some kind of commitment not to allow English studies on the HS level in Lakewood. The exact details, and if this was actually a Takanah or merely a preference, is not clear and depends who you ask. In any case, Rabbi Elya Svei, Rosh Yeshiva of Philadelphia and a student of Rav Aharon’s, was asked why he allows English in Philly if Rav Aharon was against it. What difference can there be between the town of Lakewood NJ and Philadelphia PA? Reb Elya answered that he has no choice, and that currently, the Baalei Batim would not send their kids to the Yeshiva except under these circumstances.”

I don’t know why R’ Ahron held there was a difference between Lakewood and elsewhere, perhaps he didn’t want any high school in Lakewood. R’ Ahron held that you had to go to secular studies in high school.

The truth is R’ Ahron just didn’t want English in Lakewood, (or High School in general), but everywhere else he wanted. This is what I once heard -the 12th grade class of Philly near the beginning of the yeshiva didn’t want to go to English anymore and stopped going. R’ Elya said you have to go and they said no. So they went to R’ Ahron and he said 12th graders still need babysitters and can’t learn a whole day and they have to go to secular studies.

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Allsgr8 -So what’s the problem if the nerve endings are degenerated? Finish the explanation.

Maxwell -You keep contradicting yourself- First- “BTW, it is true that there is a heter to study secular subjects, only to the extent it is needed for parnassa.” This is obviously post high school, because high school students aren’t learning for parnassah. Then you say – “The prohibition to learn in Colleges”, it’s ossur to go to college, so where is this heter you’re talking about? Maybe you’re talking about learning cow biology, but what kind of parnassa would need that, a butcher? If you want to rant against something fine, but at least make sense. Many, many gedolim mattered secular studies in elementary & high school and quite a few mattered going to college. If you don’t want to go fine, but don’t make it out that there is no other shitta besides the ones you brought down!

BTW, In Lakewood this no high school english business only started when R. Burstyn wanted to open up a school. He went to his father-in-law (R. Nosson zt”l) and he said to do it without english. R. Ahron zt”l -all his talmidim who opened up yeshivos including high schools- all had English. None of them would have secular studies if it was against R. Ahron’s shitta.

Maxwell -There is a big difference in learning philosophy than anything else.

Maxwell- That’s the Rema I’m talking about. There is no such word in there that says or means curriculum. And I’m saying B’akroy can be everyday. Stop translating the SA the way that you want! Look in the Gra who says this comes from Menochos and Sifrie whom say that Torah has to be Ikkur and not Tefayloh. So as long as they don’t have Secular studies all day long and are shorter in quantity than the Torah limud, it’s mutter.

holtzichfest- It’s not bideeved to learn other chuchmas B’akroy; you made that up. And the English subjects that are learnt are probably not even considered other chuchmas.

Women are given Binah Yesairah, if people like you would post more often, then it might become contaigous.

Phil -“First of all, I don’t believe that kids under eleven years of age can be held accountable to know the time when they are expected in the house if all the kids are playing outside…”

Why not? A lot of kids start learning how to tell time at 4 or 5. Most will know by 8 or 9. If they come in once in awhile to cool off or to get a drink, then they have to check the time, like my kids did. If they don’t come in at all, you can buy them a wrist watch. Some are less than $10. If your 10 year old doesn’t know how to tell time, you can buy them an alarm watch and you set it to the time they must come in. This will teach them responsibilty. Of course raising children is full of challenges, but with thinking it through, these can be overcome. People shouldn’t throw their hands up in the air and say “I can’t”!

The problem is that you have to drag them in. Children when they go out should be told, they have to be back at a certain time. If they don’t follow the rule, there will be a consequence to their actions. The problem in our generation is that people are very lazy and don’t want to put in the time and effort into child-raising. So for example coming in the house at a certain time, they say why should my kids be the first ones in? All the parents say that except for the first set of parents who don’t care in the first place. As a parent, the job is to give over to your kids what you feel is the right thing. You think your kids don’t respect you because of all the whining, but in the long run if you stand by your principles, you will be the most respected of all the parents in the neighboorhood.