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SC – Now why would you think that?
Dave Hirsch, blueprints, and Yochie,
I think WIY, TMB and Joseph are all one in the same.
Mods, please correct me if I’m wrong!
SJSinNYC – Oh, what does it stand for then?
popa_bar_abba – Sorry about the confusion because of the different fonts. The quote starts from research and ends with lifetime. What he is saying is that “binge eating” & overeating aren’t the same thing. Overeating is mentally normal, while “binge eating” is not. You might not have realized, but using the term “eating disorder” for overeating -states by medical definition that overeating is a mental disorder, which it is not!
Why did they have to classify “binge eating” as a separate mental disease? Because they found Bulimic patients who would just “binge eat”, but not “purge” (get rid of it somehow). So they decided to give it- it’s own classification. This isn’t what you call “Overeatng”!
Homeowner – I’ll answer you, even though you obviously didn’t read the posts. Both Popa and Kapusta said overeating is an eating disorder. I did quote Dr. Walsh about overeating, which he says is normal. You’re the lawyer, so you have no clue when it comes to health. My post was to inform people that overeating isn’t an eating disorder. An eating disorder is a mental disorder and that is what I was coming to refute. I never said overeating isn’t a health problem; obesity affects about half the population. It just is that half the country isn’t crazy. (Until half the pop. has legal degrees.)
Midwest2- `”you weren’t reading my post. I specifically referred to situations where the guy is 10-15 years older than the girl. You said that your grandparents WERE THE SAME AGE. That’s a different case altogether.
We’re talking situations where the guy is old enough to be his own kids’ grandfather.”`
I did read your post. You didn’t understand mine. When it comes to life and death, there are no hard and fast rules. Even without being in the medical field, I know many young people who have died. If two people get to know each other and like each other, who cares besides you and a few like you, what their age difference is? Acc. to your train of thought, just for example, (in the CR there has been a lot of discussion regarding smoking), smokers shouldn’t get married, even if they are the same age as the woman because they are going to die much younger than her!
anon for this –
Just to clarify, are you saying that any woman who outlives a husband of similar age caused him to die?Not all of them -a portion of them. And don’t ask me how many, I never took a poll. The gemorah calls a woman who three of her husbands died a “Katlonis”.
To those saying overeating is an eating disorder, you are Incorrect:
“Research that has come out since the last major revisions to the DSM 15 years ago justifies the classification of binge eating as a disorder in its own right, says Dr. B. Timothy Walsh, a psychiatry professor at Columbia University Medical Center and chairman of the eating disorders work group for this version of the DSM.
The DSM is known as the bible of mental illness. These are the ones who classify what is considered a mental disorder. Overeating might be unhealthy, but it isn’t a mental illness, unless the person engages in “binge eating”!
Gabboim -Even though I’m fat, balding and divorced, I’ll settle for a good-looking (not beautiful), never-married girl!
OOmis – I haven’t addressed you in a long time, but since when is it now taboo for an older guy to try and get a date with a younger woman? In my opinion, it’s polite to say to the guy -“No thank you”. This is the preferred torah way. Instead of detesting other Jews, it’s more polite to say no and not be Oiver “Lo sisna”. They wouldn’t be so disgusted if they immediately let the other party know the score. They wouldn’t bottle up their bad feelings. It would bother them a second with a “Eew”, and then they would forget about it. Your definition of being polite, only causes the male to keep trying, and then this causes the female to build up more resentment.
Ima -It is a mental disorder, you can’t pick it up, like a cold. Sometimes people exposed to different environments, like anxiety, such as school pressure, peer pressure, will develop mental disorders, if they are pre-disposed to mental illness. There are a lot of factors why someone develops mental illness. If the child/girl is very calm, collective type, it’s unlikely for this to happen. If the girl is more high-strung, there is a greater possibility. These disorders need to be handled by mental health professionals, whether before seminary or during.
havesomeseichel -The way I understand genetics, with DY, there will be less carriers. And I have a college education in the health sciences. Please explain your way of thought.
Midwest2 –
Another angle: women significantly outlive men of the same age. A man who marries a woman 15 years younger than he is will leave her a widow for at least 20 years.These are the women who cause the early demise of the man. My grandfather outlived my grandmother by a few years and he was sick first. And they were the same age. There are good women out there.
Divorced_Guy – Forget the plus 7. I’ll stick to half my age.
And if you are, chances are that they are being extremely picky, because I am sure they are being redt to many many girls.This statement is true for about half the older guys. The other half during their twenties- people have spoken bad about them and whether this was L.H. or Motzay Shem Rah, they have been locked out of the shidduch scene. Like one poster said, if these men have money, it might be different, but unfortunately for most this isn’t the case!
I see nothing wrong with women marrying older men, provided they are women, not girls.
Phil -It has also led to L.H. and Motzay Shem Rah! So unless someone is so sure of themselves, they should stay away from this trait. It should not be different than the Din of Ahvack Loshon Hora!
Jose-
I see all these mentions of the issur for smoking. Can anyone refer a written psak or teshuva to that effect? I would like to read what is written there.R’ Moshe Zt”l whose teshuva all you people quote that it is mutter to smoke says clearly it’s ossur to start.
As a matter of clarification, venishmartem meod lenofshoseichem is an asay. Vlo sosuru achrei levavichem is a lo sasayWhen I learnt in Yeshiva, I was always exposed to second-hand smoke. I don’t know of one smoker who will not smoke in the presence of others. R’ Moshe only Matters smoking for oneself, he doesn’t Matter second-hand smoke. For a person to expose others to second-hand smoke, as far as I’m concerened this is Rehzicha, a lot worse than “Vlo sosuru …”!
flowers- Your mistake is -if the physical harm is Ossur, then you are also doing spiritual harm to yourself!
Popa -For you to equate obesity with smoking is plain silly. Not all the times does obesity cause disease. It’s a co-factor for heart disease. No, I’m not advocating being overweight, but smoking causes directly many diseases such as heart disease, cancer and not just lung cancer. Go to the gov. web sites and you will find many more statistics on smoking. I recently heard a lecture from an oncologist who said if everyone would stop smoking today, in 60 years from now, we in the medical field would still be dealing with diseases from smoking! We don’t have enough health dollars to deal with this kind of burden on our health system.
frumladygit – I will repeat my point as many times as necessary -as long as people like you don’t get the point. Since patients have options and are not forced to get medical care, if you don’t like the fact that OB’s offer when needed, procedures, please use a midwife. You obvoiusly are taking a risk if a complication occurs, but those who want to use them are willing to take this risk!
ryphque- We in the US have midwife options; there are people here who give birth underwater. But what we don’t need is people who don’t opt to use midwives and then complain about their medical care! They should move to countries like the UK who have socialized medicine, perhaps there they will be happier with their medical care.
Daas Yochid- I didn’t fantasize and I didn’t buy a ticket. I still have that dollar in my pocket, but a lot of you don’t. And the two main winners were on the west. No major lucky guys here in the east.
The wonderful doctor who delivered my children was ethical and responsible, as well as being a top-notch doctor. She is known to work very hard to avoid c-sections unless absolutely medically necessary.I would say most doctors are like this!
bh18 -Money doesn’t buy happiness. That’s what Anna Nicole Smith did. She ended up with money, but money is what her son used to buy the drugs he OD with. And she followed suit.
wanderingchana –
I don't know why they couldn't provide this care in the hospital.She probably was in a Hick hospital, where they don’t have a lot of basics.
It cost hundreds of dollars more to transport her on a stretcher than a wheelchair, so until the end she being transported in a wheelchair.Since the hospital had to pick up the tab of her transport, they were doing it as cheap as possible.
wanderingchana- The definition of a pt. with bedsore(s) is that the pt. was neglected. My only question is was your grandmother bedridden or not. If she was, perhaps she had the ulcer at home?
An aunt who has worked in a nursing home for decades said, "once (bedsores) get that big, they don't recover" and she was rightActually, she’s wrong; nowadays we have ways to treat these. Nursing homes that have pt’s with bedsores are bad because they are negligent in pt. care. Try to avoid putting your loved ones in these types.
Cedarhurst- True, but why did he leave bais din and go to the goyishe courts, before finishing in bais din?
the.nurse –
So please don't bash either one. People can make their own well thought out, researched decisions.You are typical of someone who comes in the middle, but doesn’t read all the posts. I never said people shouldn’t have home births. If you would have read my first post, my beef was that people complain about what the medical personnel do for them and they still continue using them. I think this is hypocrisy, since there are alternatives, like midwives!
Ben Levi -Do you know why it lost in appeal? Are you going to tell me now that the appeal’s court is also anti-semitic? You either don’t know all the details or you are witholding them. It seems that from Nononsense’s post that the man’s side isn’t on the up and up!
havesomeseichel -You are correct, but I was bringing the numbers as another point that doesn’t add up. All those frum people at that demostration knew why he is withholding the get, but came anyway. This is a national case -the NY times picked it up. To say so many don’t know about the shabbos issue or don’t care about it, is far-fetched. My point is there is a lot going on that noone knows about, so people reading this case should not jump to conclusions!
Mod -80 –
on the other hand there are some terrible unnecessary things that go on with hospital births. for now the best answer is a compromise. a birthing center that is truly understanding of the process, a midwife directed birth, or an ob who has some sense,...I know you’re a physician and I’m just a student, but what area are you trained in? It sounds like you’re in peds. Doing my OB rotation, not that long ago, I tend to differ on your opinion. Most unnecessary, and I mean Most, is caused by the patient, not the doctor. We live in a society of immediate satisfaction/gratification. There are patients who tell the OB -schedule my C-section on Thurs. because on Wed. I have my hairdresser appt. and on Fri. nite I have to be at this party and so on. These cases of unnecessary procedures have nothing to do with the provider; maybe once upon a time things were different. My mother told me when she delivered, the standard procedure was you put the mother to sleep and when she woke up -you already had the kid.
SJS –
Hospitals are not these sterile zones we think of them. There are sick people there. Your home is generally safer.I never had this misconception, maybe you did. Neither does anyone I know think this. Where do you get your “facts” from?
Health, there is a high corrolation between elderly in hospitals or long term care facilities developing increased colonization of c. diff, causing extreme diahrea and often death. But feel free to say I am blaming this on medical negligence.Maybe it has to do with that a lot of these pts. are on antibiotics? Maybe the antibiotics are necessary for the pts.? It’s usually the doctors that practice primary care, eg. pediatricians, internists, etc., who prescribe unnecessary antibiotics.
Since you feel the way you do about medical personnel, esp. that we are always negligent; Feel Free not to use us. You can deliver at home; if ch’vs you or a family member get sick, you can self-treat or go to someone who practices alternative medicine. But don’t ever go to a regular doctor or an emergency room!
AOM -the truth is everyone has Chessronos. It’s only with the chessed of Hashem that people get/stay married. Esp. the way we find our partner -a couple of dates- that’s all. It takes a least 6 months of full time living with someone to get to know them. Maybe that’s why the Torah says Nokkey Yeyeh L’baiso Shana Echus. It might take upto a year to get to know one another. It takes a lot of Siyata D’shimaya, and this is what I’m hoping for. And no, I’m not advocating dating for long periods of time.
Popa & Ben Levi- Not to argue on the Bais Din, but being through a divorce myself, something sounds fishy to me. Here is a lawyer who either agreed or was forced by the court to start his weekend at 6PM Fri. Did he mention the Shabbos issue to the court? I would have and I’m not a lawyer. Even if you tell me, that it was an anti-semitic Judge and he/she ruled against him; did he appeal? Something is wrong because the Judge wanted to give him parenting time, obviously, but was he/she made aware that it’s not really parenting time? It just seems also strange that you can get out 100/200 people to demonstrate against him- if she has done something against our religion. There are missing pieces that have not been brought out in the media.
Itche – No joke. I was in the hospital a few weeks ago during a rotation and everyone was watching Dr. Oz’s show, because an employee was the contestant. One of the questions he asked was -“What is better bottled water or filtered?” He answered -“filtered”. Because a lot of bottled water is just tap water. Some tap water has caused cancer. Nowadays, there is nothing that is totally safe! Henay Lo Yonum V’loyeeshun Shomer Yisroel.
Make sure the kid has the sound of a barking seal otherwise it might be epiglotitis (drooling and sitting up/tripoding), a medical emergency!
Croup- If the steam from the bathroom doesn’t work, the kid has to be nebulized with epi (plain or racemic) and then given a steroid.
It’s already two years and I haven’t started yet. I don’t want to make the same mistakes over again. I know that there are people who marry -divorce, over and over again. Not for me.
SJS –
Hospitals are disease ridden. Many people go in for simple procedures and contract terrible diseases (my grandmother went in for surgery which was BH successful, but contracted c. diff and died from it).This is true; hospitals are full of disease; it’s called nosicomial infections. Again, someone making a generalization from a one time incident. Unfortunately for you -C. diff isn’t one of the organisms under this category. It’s actually an bacteria that lives in people’s gut. When the flora is decreased in the gut, usually because of antibiotics, this bacteria can cause disease. Another know-it-all blaming the hospital and the medical professionals without even knowing any basics. There could have been negligence in your grandmother’s case, as in any case were things have a bad outcome, but the way you presented it shows no negligence!
coffeeaddict –
Health - I am not "one of these doulas" as you put it.If you would have been, at least your opinions would have been somewhat quasi professional. You are just someone who feels they have been burnt by the system. Even if what you say is true (we don’t know because you didn’t even give us your version of what happenned, let alone we haven’t heard the other side), your personal story doesn’t make this the case all the time. A lot of your so-called statistics you don’t even bring any proof for. Eg.:
You haven’t brought any proof for this statistic except for one frum doctor once saying so. Before you are motzay shem rah on medical professionals, find out the truth. The truth is most OB’s don’t work alone and they do rotations for weekends/holidays. So almost all don’t care if someone delivers on the weekend. If a doctor comes in to deliver a kid on fri. and it’s not progressing, they don’t have to hurry it up like you say; all they do is leave and have the doctor who is on call for the weekend take the case. Why does everyone become a know-it-all because of their experience?! Like I said before, if you don’t want a procedure, use a mid-wife! They can deliver at your home, birthing center or hospital.
flowers – I don’t disagree with your post, but you misunderstood MY Post. After reading coffeeaddict’s post (who is probably one of these doulas) you would think every medical professional wants and are doing unnecessary procedures. Most of us are ethical and don’t do unnecessary procedures. The point I was making -is that time and again when the doctor decides it’s necessary for the patient to have one -the frum lady most of the time starts with this screaming they don’t want it and it’s not necessary. If you don’t want procedures, even when deemed medical necessary, then don’t use doctors, use midwives!
TMB or WIY (whoever you are) -What would R’ Schach or R’ Elya say about someone who is always on the net? Would you think they would hold such a person is better or worse than a college guy?
Eclipse -one thing I learnt in life – is that no two cases are the same. A person has to have an open mind. While I believe you that you and your friends got a raw deal -I also got a raw deal from my ex-wife. Not all cases are like yours and not all are like mine. Each one is different. There are bad people from both genders. One is not better than the other.
I hope they got a second opinion. What is the Cobb’s angle?
Actually in Balto. they have something called a birthing center which is a place to give birth by midwives in a home-like environment, but isn’t a medical center.
I find the posters above are typical of the avg. frum woman. But to me it seems a little bit of hypocrisy. These women want the best OB doc, but when the doc decides to do a procedure, they all scream I don’t want it -it’s not necessary. If you don’t want to have any procedures use a mid-wife, not a doctor; that is the difference between the two!
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PB -Your posts are so outrageous, I don’t even feel they deserve a response! But I’ll answer this one- “even if your wife did abuse you, the fact that you are “bashmutzing” her the first chance you get, does not show that you learned the lessons from your first marriage.”
Please show me anywhere in any of my posts I said anything negative against my ex! Where did I say that I was abused? Also, why don’t you learn halachos of LH? If you can’t possibly know who the person is -it’s not LH.
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SJSinNYC- That’s the problem with most people, you read into things. Where did I ever post, people shouldn’t help out abused women? Don’t ever become a judge, because your emotions will cloud the truth!
AinOhdMilvado -You might have a point there. Since only perps can carry, maybe everybody should go with vests, helmets and goggles. Our country is becoming the Wild,Wild,West due to the liberal criminal laws of our country!
Aries- “That is why professionals need to get involved to weed out the unsolicited advisors with the wrong advice!”
Oh, professionals were involved. This person was bashmutzing me way at the begining, when my wife still loved me. The last counsellor we went to, I didn’t like so I didn’t want to go back. I got my wife to agree to go to someone else. Then this person came along and convinced her that if I wouldn’t go to the one I didn’t want to, then I was playing with her and she shouldn’t go to anyone else. The one I didn’t like wasn’t our first counsellor, we had been to a few prior. My point is that even though there are men who abuse their wives, there are women who abuse their husbands. I don’t think it’s only 5% like a poster said. Also, there are many women who cry wolf. Let’s say a woman wants out of the marriage, but they want to win in court, sometimes if they use the abuse card, they gain a lot more than if they didn’t. And unless the man has good representation, they can convince the judge. Some men can’t even afford any representation like Cantoresq posted!