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Ubiq -“Are you switching tactics, first you argued for a week or so, that I DID lie becasue there was a “hearing””
Yes, when s/o makes a Broad Statement, that SCOTUS won’t hear the case, it includes all definition of Hearing.
Unless you specify which definition that you’re using.“now you are saying you didnt call me a liar.”
No, never. Why don’t you read my post?
I wrote -“Where did I call you a Liar – post the quote.”
This isn’t -“now you are saying you didnt call me a liar.”You have to Learn Reading Comprehension!
“I don;t know what defitnions you mean.”
All definitions of the word “Heard”.“EXACTLY fabrication is a LIE…”
You simply have No Comprehension!
From previous:
“So at the time of your post – it was a Lie of Fabrication!”
Because no one could know the SCOTUS would say on the case, maybe they would declare it Moot, maybe they would give a Writ of Centorarti.“why are you so scared to asnwer simple direct questions ?”
No, I’m not.“? its bad enough to lie, but cmon don;t lie to yourself. Try to learn”
You’re the only one on this thread that keeps on Lying!
Don’t put your problems on Others!Ugh
CA -“How about saying it like this that Hashem gave us hard labor to take us out after 210 years (according to one way of learning, according to the other way it started from Yitzchak)”
You sound like it’s Not a Half Dozen eggs, but it’s 6 eggs!
Ubiq -“On Dec 20’th I said her case won’t be heard by the supreme court.
You said “Ok – she isn’t Lying – You are!”What’s wrong with that statement?
If you look at the Your posts before that – you use the word “lying & liar” time after time.
Now you have a problem when s/o says that about you?!?
Are you for Real???“You can use whatever definition you want. But you should apologize for having called me a liar, when I was using the correct definition .”
Where did I call you a Liar – post the quote.
Are you talking about this?
“On Dec 20’th I said her case won’t be heard by the supreme court.
You said “Ok – she isn’t Lying – You are!”If yes, by saying it won’t be heard – this Includes all Definitions, unless you specify which one!
So stop trying to Manipulate e/o, Mr. Compulsive Liar!“The Court usually is not under any obligation to hear these cases”
“you say you use your own defitnion, fine.
But you can’t fault me for using the Court’s definition.
so I wasn’t lying when I said there wouldn’t be a hearing. There wasn’t”No one is faulting you for that.
But I faulted you for saying a Lie of Fabrication!
If you forgot the Definition – look up a few lines.“Same for “lie of fabrication”
“by definition, it HAS to be a lie. Otherwise it is not a Lie of fabrication, it isnt a lie at all itfi it isnt a lie.”Ok, here it is again:
So at the time of your post – it was a Lie of Fabrication!”
See the word “Lie”?!?
Again:
“From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication –
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”You have a Very Big Problem admitting that you did Something Wrong!
“Still waiting for apology”
The only one that should give apologies is You – for all your Manipulating Lying!!!
Ubiq -“You say I lied, even though I told the truth. You mentioned (after 25 or so posts arguing about the definition of “hearing”) that you are using a special definition of lie that you call “lie of fabrication” To back up this definition , you brought used psychology wikia as a source (As if that trumps any of the numerous dictionary definitions I provided)
Under this defitnion, from the source YOU provided they have an example of a “lie of fabrication” (again, which is what you are accusing me of)”Enough with your Manipulation!
I don’t fall for it, & I don’t think other posters will either.
I don’t care how many posts later that I explained that there isn’t one definition of Hearing.
I was using the other one.
So as long that there is a correct definition – I can use it.
You’re so obsessed with finding others wrong, you can’t accept that I wasn’t wrong, but you were!” (As if that trumps any of the numerous dictionary definitions I provided)
Under this defitnion, ”
Yes, it does. I told you before that the Lie of Fabrication, is defined in more than one place.
Your defense is Ludicrous!
You separate the word “Lie” and “Fabrication”.
This is classic Manipulation!
I’m not defining “Lie” or “Fabrication”!
I’m defining Lie of Fabrication, which you have done in your Statement!
This is a Psychological Definition, not a General one.
And Btw, it’s defined in many Psychological Sites and/or Texts.Ubiq -“and the part that would have that trump The Government’s own website which says EXACTLY as I’ve been telling you”
I answered this already –
SCOTUS is a Court of Law!
Why would you think differently?
It’s just the final court.“The part that would apply that definition to a conference, which is NOT a “proceeding before a court”.”
Stop pretending that you’re a Know – it – All!
Definition of Legal Proceeding:
From Legal Insider:
“Legal Proceeding means any action, suit, litigation, arbitration, proceeding (including any civil, criminal, administrative, investigative or appellate proceeding), hearing, inquiry, audit, examination or investigation commenced, brought, conducted or heard by or before, or otherwise involving, any court or other Governmental Body or any arbitrator or arbitration panel.”“No this one , posed now for the 7th (!!!!) time,:
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place”I guess – that you can’t take a Hint!
I’m Not answering those questions.
You can ask direct questions on my posts!
Not Moshol questions.CA -“Health,
Come again?”Hashem said at the beginning that we will be in Golus for 400 years.
So why weren’t we?
Because Hashem changed it to 210 years because of Hard Labor.
We were supposed to have 400 years of regular labor, but if you make it Much Harder, you can Condescense the time.
It came out to 210 years!Ubiq -“Our conversation was about scotus. So any otherdefinition you invent is irrelevant.
You said the conference is a court case. This was wrong.”I forgot, you have No Reading Comprehension!
Is SCOTUS a Court of Law?
From previous:
From the Encyclopedia Brittanica:
“Hearing, in law, …. In common usage a hearing also refers to any formal proceeding before a court.”
What part of this Definition that you don’t Understand?!?“Would love to continue this conversation, but to help you you’ll have to answer my question”
This question?
“when someone submits a statement as truth, ” – NO my statement wasn’t a lie it was true.”
“without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”I answered it for you before – I’ll do it again:
“Again, it wasn’t based on any Fact at the time that you posted it!”“You were sure of it, you lied you made it up.
Some would say this is a “lie of Fabrication””No, I didn’t!
When s/o thinks something and doesn’t say or post it – is No way a Lie of anything, because your Not telling anyone else!
I’m Not going to be your Dictionary!
You are Mekayim the Mitzvah of
“וְהִנֵּ֥ה עַם־קְשֵׁה־עֹ֖רֶף הֽוּא”.CA -“where פרעה made the work harder in מצרים that also brought the geulah”
Not really.
Hashem didn’t really change the time of Geulah.
What he did was change the 400 years to 210, because he made the work much harder!Yid1818 -“I am interested in your comments”
I found another Goyishe Prophet that just said in 30 days – Biden will be dead and Trump will be President again!
Remember, it’s not me, I’m just quoting s/o.
I guess you don’t have the internet, so I did it for you.Ubiq -“US courts -The Court usually is not under any obligation to hear these cases”
“The court does NOT hear al cases. they decide which cases to hear. The ones they decide to hear are granted a writ of Certiorari.
Most cases, including all related to the election are denied, menaing the court declines to hear them.”One of your few True statements from a Compulsive Liar!
“I thought we covered this already”
But unfortunately you Never understood my posts!
I’m Not a Shrink, so I don’t know Why!For a Know – it – All, like you, you’d think that maybe there is more than one definition for “Hearing”?!?
From the US courts.gov, that’s talking about SCOTUS is one, but I was using the Other One.
From the Encyclopedia Brittanica:
“Hearing, in law, a trial. More specifically, a hearing is the formal examination of a cause, civil or criminal, before a judge according to the laws of a particular jurisdiction. In common usage a hearing also refers to any formal proceeding before a court.”“Nothing wrong with making a guess….But there is something Wrong with doing a Lie of Fabrication!”
“whats the difference? I don;t follow”For the Word “Guess” – look in any Dictionary!
Why do you make me repeat myself?!
Ok – One more time:
“Lets see how my truthful statement “The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”
“When you keep trying to defend yourself, it seems that you’re trying to Manipulate that it Wasn’t a Lie of Fabrication.
Yes, it was. Because at the time of your post, No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.
So at the time of your post – it was Lie of Fabrication!”
Again:
“From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication –
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”Ubiq -“Part of his role is presiding over the conference in which they decide what cases to hear”
I told you quite a few times – they hear every Case!
“I don’t get it if you say all those people (” a lot”) just took the same blond guess. even if yo usay the weren’t sure (as if that changes anything) whatever power the used to “realize” what was happening I used the same power”
So sad. Nothing wrong with making a guess.
But there is something Wrong with doing a Lie of Fabrication!
I guess you forgot by now!
So go up a few lines.“you’ve been posting mostly gibberish this entire thread.”
Not me.
Your posts have gone to the Dogs!“1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it
3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)
4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”Why don’t you quit already?
Do you want to make sure that every Single poster can’t take you Seriously anymore?!?
To be honest – I once did.Ubiq -“so it was true. not a lie”
Stop changing the definition of a Lie of Fabrication!
How come that you won’t admit that you keep on doing this Abnormal Psychological Behavior?!?
At least you answered this –
“are you going to continue with your Denial & keep on trying to Manipulate e/o here?!?”“It was absolutly based on fact.”
Now this is an Outright Lie!
Who are you Fooling, besides yourself?!?“John roberts has been around for a while. The way he thinks and feels is well known to those who follow.”
So he’s the only one on the Supreme Court?!? There aren’t 9?!?
LOL.“It wasn’t a blind guess” & “It was absolutly based on fact.”
Did you actually write both of these?!?
LOL!
I could go on & on, but I’m scared that I might “Split a Gut”, from your Absurd Posts!GH -“Sadly, there is a fringe segment of the political FAR right evangelical wing that truly believes that the Orange-haired melech h’malachim came down the escalator in a Fifth Avenue condo building with red and white flags”
I, who have listened to the Far right, Never heard anyone claim that.
Well maybe some Nut Job. One or two guys are Not a Fringe Segment!
But to put that on the rest of them, shows how desperate you are!
This goes to Show e/o – when the Lib Leftists have No Rational answer to their way of thinking – they Resort to Conspiracy Theories!Ubiq – Since you have No Reading Comprehension, I’ll explain it to you!
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, ” – NO my statement wasn’t a lie it was true.”
It became True later on, at the time you posted it no one could ever know if it was or not.
“without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.” This might fit I was as certain as can be, but obviously not 100% in the sense that “anything is possible”
I just addressed this above.
It definitely fits.” Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact.” My statement was based on fact.”
Again, it wasn’t based on any Fact at the time that you posted it!
It came true later on.” Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”” My statement was not made up”
You made it up, because you Guessed what the SCOTUS would do!
So, are you going to admit that you told a “Lie of Fabrication”, or are you going to continue with your Denial & keep on trying to Manipulate e/o here?!?
Ubiq -“In your book this is a Lie of fabrication. Even if they do” (they won’t), you don’t KNOW that they will.”
You have No Comprehension of the English language.
“it could be, because eventually they incorporate Subject Meanings into Regular Dictionaries.”
I didn’t say for sure that this will happen!
What does “it could be” Mean?“is a defintion you made up (and sort of found a source that part of which kind of sounds like what you claim when taken out of context)”
No, actually I quoted from 2 psychological places, & there are more.
So I really don’t think you’re a Know – it – All.
But you’re welcome to make yourself Foolish!Ubiq -“I’m still working on the “lie of fabrication ” stuff could you help me out”
For the hundredth time – it’s Not a regular definition, although it could be, because eventually they incorporate Subject Meanings into Regular Dictionaries.
The “Lie of Fabrication” is a definition in psychology.
To be more specific – it’s a Definition of Abnormal Psychology!Participant -“whom are these prophets receiving prophecies from”
Explain your question.
Who’s Odom & Noach getting prophecy from?!?Huju -“his is the only one that is not substantially stupid.”
I guess that you Libs are still in Denial that Biden isn’t Senile!
My post was true.
Why don’t you read the News?
“President Joe Biden appeared to forget the name of the Pentagon and the name of the Secretary of Defense on Monday.”Samthe -“Wer ess zogt der waist nisht, wer es waist der zogt nisht”. He will come at the RIGHT TIME”
The Gemora says they asked him & he answered “When your Teffilos will be heard”.
The way for Teffilos to be heard – is to do Teshuva.Ubiq -“and , as mentioned in that same comment, is WHY “They won’t [hear the case] as I’ve been trying to tell you for months. (as in fact happeend)”
E/O thought that, but you decided to inform e/o.
Btw, they Did Hear it.
Stop thinking that you’re a Know it All.
You think that Only you know what’s the SCOTUS gonna do, but you never took a case to them, like I did!“Why mention “opinion”?”
“becasue you have a loose grip on realty”LOL!
Don’t put what you do on me!
The reason I mentioned “Opinion” from you later on that page, because even you realized there was something Wrong with your first paragraph!
I still think that you’re in Some Sort of Denial!Let me me reiterate to you:
You have abnormal psychological statements – in this case it’s called the Lie of Fabrication!Lakewhut -” Who’s running the white house?”
He is.
But he forgets to take his Aricept.
Now the President needs to appoint an Official that his only job is to remind the President when it’s time for the next Dose!Se2015 -“The only real goyishe prophet, bilaam, is said by the medrash to have engaged in bestiality with his talking donkey”
He was Not the only one mentioned in the Torah.
How about Odom, Noach. There are probably more.
I was talking about in our Generation.Ubiq -“so for example. If two friends are discussing whether a case will get heard, and one insists it will and the other says “no it will be dismissed as being moot”. first guy says “it will be heard you are a liar”
It’s very hard to converse with you, because you constantly Lie!
Yes, we did have a back & forth about the word “Heard”.
But what you’re posting Now is a complete Lie!
Let me refresh your Memory.
The Very first time you mentioned the word “moot”, is the following on page 3:“Even if someone was in denial until now. That denial should be gone. The Supreme court doesn’t hear cases that are moot, ie theoretical cases with no practical ramification (Article III section 2 of the constitution limits court’s scope to “cases & controversies” . Any election litigation is now theoretical Biden won (even if unfairly) There is a zero percent chance that the case will be heard.
Zero”Then you posted this:
“When case will be thrown out as moot (previous statement was fact, this is opinion (for now)).”Why mention “opinion”?
Because you started feeling Guilty on your First Paragraph, because it was a Lie of Fabrication!“becasue Im curious to what extent you will go to rewrite reality”
It’s a Shame that you keep trying to Manipulate & Change the Reality!
Yid1818 -“I am interested in your comments”
Clement (a Real Goyishe Prophet) he said that there will 2 Presidens at the Same time. Obviously it hasn’t happened yet.
But his other prophecies came true. Like he said they will Scream Impeach 2 times and that time Trump wasn’t in Politics.
He also said Socialism is Evil. Just like what the DemonCrats believe in Nowadays and the way they Apply it.
Namely LGBQ… Rights & So on!Ubiq -“The definition of “liar” is clear I quoted multiple dictionaries
You quoted several sources that didn’t contradict anything I’ve said As explained at length on multiple occasions”Idk, how you claim to have Higher Education, when you don’t understand things that they teach in Elementary School?!?
Definitions are based on the Subject.
There are regular definitions and Subject definitions.
For example, Computer science has a word called Byte.
The “Lie of Fabrication” is defined in Psychology, Not in Regular English. I’ve posted this definition already many times!
You keep writing your Nonsense.
Is it because you’re Clueless or keep on Trying to Manipulate E/O?!?Oh Charlie, -“Taxes are not only mutar they are mandated by the Torah and the Rabbis. See what Rambam says about what happens to people who don’t pay their taxes.”
And what does the Torah say about a government that Levies Immoral Taxes?!?
Either you know very little Torah or you’re trying to Manipulate E/O!Ubiq -“LIAR of fabrication. – See if you can spot the word that excludes truth”
Your Manipulating Skills won’t work with me!
It’s So sad that you’re so used to behavior like this.
It’s a Shame no one ever stood up to you, until Now!Like I wrote previously:
“You quoted the definition of a Regular Lie.
My definition was on a Psychological Pathological meaning!”Ubiq -““I’m sorry I called you a liar, when you told the truth”
That’s you to do – Stop Lying!
“Yes becasue I was certain (as near certain as humanly possible for such a prediction)
AND was right.”
Just because we’re right – Doesn’t mean that your Not a Liar of
Fabrication?!?
Did you pass Elementary School?
Because you have No reading comprehension!
Go back and try to Understand those definitions.Ubiq -“you say “No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.”
yet earlier you said: “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”
“All I did was tell you what you later acknowledged “a lot of people realized””I’m Not doing this anymore!
I’m Not your Kindergarten Teacher!“truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”
Why do I have to explain you simple things?!?
This statement -“The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”, is saying for Certain!I realized this “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”
But if I would have posted it – I’d say – I think a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved!Ubiq -“Lets see how my truthful statement “The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”
When you keep trying to defend yourself, it seems that you’re trying to Manipulate that it Wasn’t a Lie of Fabrication.
Yes, it was. Because at the time of your post, No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.
So at the time of your post – it was Lie of Fabrication!Again:
“From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”
From Vocabulary.com:
Plausible:
“If something is plausible, it’s reasonable or believable. Things that are plausible could easily happen. A woman becoming President is very plausible. A giraffe becoming President is not.”“So the fact that it came true, doesn’t mean that you’re Not a Manipulative Liar!”
Robertw -“increasing taxes”
Even though I personally will benefit, but it isn’t Moral!
They love to take other people’s money, in the form of Taxes, that will make them popular.Ubiq -“Exactly as Ive been telling you “A fabrication is a lie ”
You forgot to quote the whole line.
Don’t worry, I’ll do it for you.
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”“while we are quoting excellent sources lets define lie (noun)”
Like I said – you’re a Manipulative Liar!
You quoted the definition of a Regular Lie.
My definition was on a Psychological Pathological meaning!
“From Psychology.wikia.com”
“Fabrication”Ubiq -“authorativie website to try to save face.
and it only makes you look worse”I did look for it and you are clearly a Manipulative Liar!
I take that as a Threat -“it only makes you look worse”.When you posted that SCOTUS will declare it moot, it was a Lie of Fabrication!
From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”From Vocabulary.com:
Plausible:
“If something is plausible, it’s reasonable or believable. Things that are plausible could easily happen. A woman becoming President is very plausible. A giraffe becoming President is not.”So the fact that it came true, doesn’t mean that you’re Not a Manipulative Liar!
Oh Charlie, -“That is not clearly a fact.”
That’s what happens with DemonCrats, you treat the DemonCrat Leaders as G-d!
What Cuomo did wrong, is Not the number of deaths from Covid-19, but he had NO business sending them there, especially when he had the Mobile Hospitals from Trump!Ubiq -“Lol if by “Lie ” you mean be correct. then you are right, almost nothing you have said on this thread has been true.”
Ya See, I’m not like you that has to always to be correct, as long as I don’t end up being a Liar.
Ya See, you can end up being correct & a Liar.
To me – Lying is much worse than always being Right!
That’s why I said go Learn some Mussar – your priorities are Messed up!“when you really meant “I think theres a good possiblity you are right but don’ t be so sure” is hilarious.”
When I talk to people that just need correcting – I’d talk like that.
When I talk to Ballai Gaiva, it’s more Strong!“They listed ” “8 different lies people tell:”
“These are different types of “lies” Not different types of truths
a Lie by definition is something not true”I know that you won’t ever admit that you’re Wrong, but here’s what they wrote:
“The Lie of Fabrication”
“Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”At the time you made the Fabrication, you didn’t know for sure that it would come True!
Eg. S/o says Joe stole a bike & later on you found out he was correct.
S/o says SCOTUS will declare a case moot & later on you found out he was correct.
Both of these cases are the Lie of Fabrication!
It’s sad that you can’t see beyond your own Nose!Ubiq -“even after I told you they would. yo udindt say maybe I was right, but I didnt know for sure.”
I don’t lie, like you do.
Just because I thought it was a good possibility, I’m not going to agree with s/o who wrote that he Knows for Sure!“If it isn’t a lie, it isn’t a “lie of fabrication”.”
I didn’t write that – Hopeline did.
“8 different lies people tell:
Take it up with them.
Since you’re the Know – It – All.“Lol! An example of the defitnion.”
Your lack of understanding of Simple things is amazing.
No where does it say – it’s the only example!“Every time the weather report says “there will be sun tomorrow etc” It is a lie. Even if they were right. since obviosuly they cant be 100% certain.
Is this what you are saying?”Stop proving that you can’t Comprehend Very Simple Things!
I’ll answer this time, but no more.
I’m Not your Kindergarten teacher!
E/o knows when a weather man makes a prediction, that it’s just that.
No one thinks it’s definitely gonna happen.
But your post was different than e/o’s thought process.
E/o thought that SCOTUS could rule that the case is moot, but you said they will!
This is a Lie of Fabrication!
Instead of thinking what to post to me Next – How about picking up a Mussar Sefer?!?Ubiq -“I already told you why that defitnion didnt help (namely it is a type of LIE ie it is a type of untruth, what I told you was true.”
You keep saying that I should apologize.
No, you should!
Almost e/o knew that they could declare the motion as moot.
So what was your intention to your original post?!?
Again you don’t understand Simple things.
It was a LIE, at the time of your OP!“You cut off the end of the defintion there “…Fabrications are extremely hurtful because they lead to rumors that can damage someone else’s reputation. Spreading rumors is not only a lie but is also stealing another’s reputation.”
Of course I cut off that part!
It’s Not part of the definition, it’s an example.
That example doesn’t apply here.As much as your Gaiva doesn’t let you admit that you’re Wrong – I’ll repeat it:
“The Lie of Fabrication”
“Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”Ubiq -“Yes I know what happened.
But the court DID declare it moot I was right. I am not familiar with a defintion of “lie” that would include my having told the truth as being a “lie” simply becasue you don;’t thik I should have been so sure.”Yes, this is called Lying!
I’m not sure why you do it, but I posted a theory above:
I’ll quote it again:
“Black lies are about simple and callous selfishness. We tell black lies when others gain nothing and the sole purpose is … to gain something we desire (increasing benefits for ourselves).”From the Hopeline:
“8 different lies people tell:
The Lie of Fabrication
Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”Just because it became true, at the time you told it – it was called “The Lie of Fabrication”!
Oh Charlie, -“The Democrats are not the fools here.”
From above:
“Biden opened up the US to e/o, while other Countries aren’t.
Why aren’t they?
Because the more people you let in – the more spreading of the Variants.
They don’t have a Vax against AIDS because of too many Variants.
I guess Biden wants Covid19 to be like AIDS!?!
But he’s NOT Senile!”Ubiq -“A hearing involves “evidence and/or argument presented” before the judges. Not judges reading motions or petitions on their own.”
Yes, that’s your mistake!
It doesn’t have to be presented at the time of Hearing.
As a matter of fact, it’s usually way before the Hearing!
But you are correct, it is presented by the litigants.“are you using your own definition of “Liar”?
What definition of “liar” are you using?”There are 4 types of Lies – White ones, gray ones, black ones, red ones.
You did a Black one:
From Changingminds.org:
“Black lie:
Black lies are about simple and callous selfishness. We tell black lies when others gain nothing and the sole purpose is either to get ourselves out of trouble (reducing harm against ourselves) or to gain something we desire (increasing benefits for ourselves).” (Me – like pretending to be a Know – It – All.)
“The worst black lies are very harmful for others. Perhaps the very worst gain us a little yet harm others a great deal”From previous:
“I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie – it’s possible there are exceptions in this case – Not to declare that it is Moot!”Lakewhut – You forgot the main thing.
Biden opened up the US to e/o, while other Countries aren’t.
Why aren’t they?
Because the more people you let in – the more spreading of the Variants.
But you can’t criticize Biden, because he’s a DemonCrat!They don’t have a Vax against AIDS because of too many Variants.
I guess Biden wants Covid19 to be like AIDS!?!
But he’s NOT Senile!Ubiq -“you can’t have a “proceeding before a judge” if there are only judges.”
They do this all the time.
People make motions and later on the Judge reads them and decides the next step.
It’s happened to me dozens of times.
It’s obvious that you never had a Court case!“This is EXACTLY what happens. (there is no court case, there are no hearings) they read the motions and make decisions”
You have to read the legal definition. This is called a hearing. Yes, when e/o is present it’s also called a hearing.“you called me a liar for my correct prediction”
I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie it’s possible there are exceptions in this case Not to declare that it is Moot!
“At conference could they provide a ruling on the actual case. IE overrule or uphold the lower courts decision or are there limits on their “judgement” ?”
Technically they could, but they have their Rules – one day for conference, and one day for arguments.
Ubiq -“There is no “proceeding before a judge” on conference days.”
Yes there is.
Stop pretending that you’re a Know – It – All.
You surely don’t know anything about Law!
Reading a Motion is a type of Proceeding!“You say the court “heard” the case.
Yet they denied Certiorari (do you argu on this fact as well?)”They did both. You refuse to comprehend that they don’t judge up on the case, until it was Heard.
They read the Motions and make decisions, like whether to Grant Certiorari or not.“What would have happened if the court granted Certiorari. In other words LEts’ say Gorsuch , ALito and Thomas convinced 2 others that they should take the case.
Would would that mean? they agree to hear a case they already heard?”So what?!?
Now they are interested in Oral Arguments and/or More Evidence, before any Judgment!Ubiq -“The court did not hear the case .
It is on conference days (NOT argument days) that Certiori is granted/denied . note Judges conference is PRIVATE. “According to Supreme Court protocol, only the Justices are allowed in the Conference room at this time—no police, law clerks, secretaries, etc” (source UScourts . gov)
There is no hearing, there are no arguments. The Justices discuss cases that had been heard and whether should hear others”You have a very Short memory.
Remember this from a few posts ago?
“Actually your definition of “heard”, is Not the Legal Definition!
From dictionary.law.com:
Heard comes from Hearing:
“Any proceeding before a Judge or other magistrate, w/o a jury in which evidence and/or argument is presented to determine some issue of fact or both issues of fact and law. Etc.”
So they heard the case on the day of a conference.You wrote -“It is on conference days (NOT argument days) that Certiori is granted/denied”.
So do they come to the conclusion?
They don’t flip a coin to make this decision!
I’ll tell you:
They read the case and they make decisions on it.
This case had the evidence in the motion and then they decided that they will give a Judgment of Moot!
So they did Hear the case, even though you keep Lying, like this -“The court did not hear the case”.I gave you the definition of “Hearing” – 2 times already.
I know that you are having Trouble differentiationing Between the Layman’s definition and the Legal definition!
And like you said -“and if you have any lingering questions I’ll of course gladly answer”!Ubiq -“YES! nailed it “….in which evidence and/or argument is presented …” EXACTLY right. A confrence in which the judges discuss among themselves whether to accept the case (whcih is what happened Feb 22), with no evidence or arguments presented. Is NOT a hearing.
It was originally scheduled for Feb 19. Have a look at SCOTUS’s calendar 2/19 was NOT an argument day (argument days marked in red) it was a conference day (marked in green) There were NO arguments there was no evidence presented.
According to the Defitnion YOU provided it was not a hearing.
Hopefullly Health, if you have the tiem to read the correct defitnion of hearing provided by Health, you will see it says exactly what I have been saying. and not as Health has been wrngly claiming that the case was heard.”It’s Sad that you can’t understand Simple things!
A kindergarten kid has More understanding than You!“with no evidence or arguments presented. Is NOT a hearing.”
How many times do I have to tell you – that the Motions contained the evidence and they read the Motions?!?
“Have a look at SCOTUS’s calendar 2/19 was NOT an argument day (argument days marked in red) it was a conference day (marked in green) There were NO arguments there was no evidence presented.”
Again, you so don’t understand Simple things!
An argument day is when they declared a Writ of Centorari.
In a conference day, they could have a Hearing.
And that’s what they did and then they made a Judgment to dismiss the case due to Mootness!Ubiq -“You did not say “Oh but it still will be heard” , that redefitnion of “heard” only came later.
Instead you said I lied when I said the case would be dismissed. you cited Goyish prohpets to back up your claim .”There could be more than one reason that the case will be heard. I listed one at that time & another later.
“To which you replied “I think this is another one of your Manipulating Lies!” AFTER I explained it will be dismissed as moot”
Dismissing a case that it won’t be heard, is Not the same as dismissing it because it’s Moot!
“no I told you what heard meant, and you made up your own defintion not found in any dictionary.”
Actually your definition of “heard”, is Not the Legal Definition!
From dictionary.law.com:
Heard comes from Hearing:
“Any proceeding before a Judge or other magistrate, w/o a jury in which evidence and/or argument is presented to determine some issue of fact or both issues of fact and law. Etc.”So you do this a lot – Most posters are Not in the Legal field, so you can Easily Manipulate them.
That’s why you can post this -“no I told you what heard meant, and you made up your own defintion not found in any dictionary.”
So you see it’s Not my definition, but you used the Layman’s definition.
The reason, I suspect, was to Manipulate e/o that you are Never Wrong because you’re the Know – It – All!!!