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Yesr -” I claim that Donald Trump is guilty of inciting a riot and should be held responsible for the deaths of five people, the injuries of more than 100, and millions in property damage. Why not try him in court? If by the end of the case, no guilt is found, then he’s innocent!”
Trust me – they would – if they could!
I posted many times the Actual Law of Inciting to Riot!
What Trump did or said, didn’t even come close.
Why don’t you get your knowledge from the actual Law itself, instead of from the Fake Media?!?Ubiq -“Excellent thread”
Yes it is.
Especially how I pointed out that this is a typical Injustice, just to appease the Woke Mob!“And just to be sure he was dead he continued to hold him there AFTER Floyd was unconscious”
And Btw, I answered this already.
You have to learn how to read posts, not just the Liberals!
“He was following Minneapolis Police Protocols at the time of Floyd’s death.
Even though he should have removed his arm at the time of Floyd’s unconsciousness, he was looking at the bystanders to make sure he wasn’t attacked!”
This is a Good Legal Defense!Avi K -“Health, if someone did not think that his life was in danger and he killed someone would it matter that his life really was in danger?”
Why do you think that I have to respond to you for a question directly, when I addressed this to other posters?
Obviously you weren’t a defense lawyer.
Yes, anybody trying to restrain a resisting Perp – their Life is in danger.
What part of the Bronx are you from?“In any case, from the record that definitely does not seem to be the case. Floyd was handcuffed at the time.”
I answered this 2 times already.
Why don’t you read all my posts?!?
“He had to restrain a violent Perp.
They thought the Perp was presenting with Excited Delirium.
Which means they think – that they have Super- Human Strength.
5 cops sometimes can’t even restrain such a criminal with just Handcuffs.
These cases usually Require a Hobble Restraint & a Spit mask!”Next time – watch all the videos.
If you do, you’ll see the record isn’t an accurate accounting!Avi K -“Health, by not claiming in at his trial he effectively admitted that it was not”
The title of this topic is “According to the Torah,”
Btw, it sure seems that the Defense Lawyer did a lousy job!
RE -“Health, three other cops were there besides Chauvin, so argument of his strength does not stand”
I addressed this already.
It would behove you to read my whole post before responding.
Unless you want to look Foolish in Front of everyone!
From previous:
“Which means they think – that they have Super- Human Strength.
5 cops sometimes can’t even restrain such a criminal with just Handcuffs.
These cases usually Require a Hobble Restraint & a Spit mask!”Oh Jackk -“That is EXACTLY what happened here.”
Name the Crime – Mr. Lib Liar!!!
Arresting a Violent Perp is the Cops’ job!
You libs think that the Job of a cop is to be a Meter Maid.“You see it differently, but you are not the judge or the jury here. They saw all the evidence presented and concluded that he committed a crime.”
They were Compromised.
Even Goyim know that there is such a thing as Negious.
That’s why certain High-profiled cases are usually moved out of that Area!“The idea that he was prosecuted and convicted to appease the woke mob is simply a lie.
It also flies in the face of the history of cops being ruled innocent by a jury even when there is tremendous pressure to convict. Amadou Diallo, Rodney King, Eric Garner , etc …”You Libs aren’t even embarrassed to post Bald- Faced Lies.
I’m not going to discuss those cases, just going to refute your Lie!
You sure have selective memory when it comes to Court Cases.
How about the case with OJ?
Do you agree with the Jury that the prosecution was tainted against OJ, because he’s Black?!?GH -“The “forensic audit” is a joke but allows some Arizona Senate wingnuts to establish their Trumpkopf bona fides”
If you don’t believe in Forensics, then you must believe in the fact Chauvin’s trial was Injust!
Because who said that the Cop killled him?
A Forensic Expert from NY.
So either you’re a Hypocrite or you Believe in Forensics, but are too scared that Biden didn’t win the election in Arizona?!?CA -“I nominate health”
LOL.
First of all, I’ve been posting while Trump was in office.
I don’t think a President has the time to Twitter and peruse the CR.
2nd, I’m much more Conservative than Trump is.RE -“Health, I get more and more surprised by what you say. According to your Torah view a cop who is there to protect people can kill them and we cannot prosecute him.”
Don’t put words in my mouth!
You can prosecute a Cop if they commit a crime.
Chauvin did a good job.
He had to restrain a violent Perp.
They thought the Perp was presenting with Excited Delirium.
Which means they think – that they have Super- Human Strength.
5 cops sometimes can’t even restrain such a criminal with just Handcuffs.
These cases usually Require a Hobble Restraint & a Spit mask!
Chauvin was prosecuted & convicted to appease the Woke Mob & the DemonCrats who rely on their Vote!Huju -“According to Minnesota and US law, which (i) over all, has been good for the Jews, and (ii) has actual jurisdiction over Chauvin, Chauvin was not allowed to kill Floyd. Chauvin goes to jail”
Typical Lib Lie!
Minnesota does Not have the right to Violate Chauvin’s Rights.
He was following Minneapolis Police Protocols at the time of Floyd’s death.
Even though he should have removed his arm at the time of Floyd’s unconsciousness, he was looking at the bystanders to make sure he wasn’t attacked!
According to the Torah, anyone involved with the prosecution of this Cop, is Oiver the 7 Mitzvos B’nai Noach!Bk613 -“Some times I wonder how your mind works”
And I wonder if you have a Mind?!?
Avi K -“Chauvin did not claim that his life was in danger.”
He doesn’t have to.
All he has to do is Act!
See my post above: 1967258DovidBT -“I think he requested a change of venue, but it was denied.”
It was denied by Cahill, the main Judge.
It should have been Appealed!From Minnesota News:
“There is a substantial possibility that any criminal trials of the four former Minneapolis police officers charged in connection with the death of George Floyd on Memorial Day evening will be moved out of Hennepin County. That potential was manifested in remarks by the current presiding judge in Hennepin County, Peter Cahill. At a preliminary hearing a couple of weeks ago, the former prosecutor told the lawyers and their clients that he may change venue because of unfavorable pretrial publicity generated by statements made by high-level officials, including Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and, more recently, Police Chief Medaria Arradondo, terming the incident a “murder” and proclaiming the guilt of the chief perpetrator, Derek Chauvin.
But the potential for tainting the jury pool is not a one-way street. Comments about the evidence in the case made publicly by two of the defense attorneys earlier this week prompted Judge Cahill Thursday to issue a rarity: a gag order barring further extra-judicial remarks by counsel on both sides of the case, coupled with a repeated threat of moving the case elsewhere to facilitate selection of an unbiased jury. Etc.”He didn’t stand a chance in Minneapolis!
They are/were concerned with Rioting, more than any Justice for the Cops.
Welcome to the New Woke U.S.!Meno -“It is clear from this that the mitzvah to kill a rodef is only in order to save someone’s life. It has nothing to do with justice.”
He definitely was a Rodef.
The cops were trying to arrest him.
He resisted them.
He could have killed a cop – that makes him a Rodef!
If he wouldn’t have resisted, then he wouldn’t be dead!CA -“Health you can’t believe yoshke is god and then say those that don’t believe in him are the chosen people
It doesn’t make sense”It’s Not my job to defend them, but obviously you nothing about Xianity.
A lot of them believe in the Trinity.
That means there is a G-d.
And there is a Holy Spirit. (Don’t ask me what that means.)
And G-d had a son named Yoshke.Ubiq -“Regardless when that month started, at thsi point it is over (since you said it over a month ago)”
That’s your mistake. I never quoted him when the month will start.
“At any rate though. This prophet who you give credence to.
Is he a deaf, a kid or crazy?”Who said that applies to Goyim?
Prove it!RE -“See how Rav Hoffman feels about it at”
Yes, go to that article and read Millhouse’s comment there.
He makes the most sense!CTlawyer -“Traditionally, police were known as PEACE OFFICERS, charged with upholding, preserving the PEACE”
This is correct.
“Law enforcement officer is a terrible term to use when referring to police.”
No, it isn’t.
Neither calling them Cops or Police.
The reason is because the Public should be able to differentiate between Local, County, State & Federal jurisdictions!CA -“Health you contradicted this statement of yours
They believe in Judaism and Xitianity.”I answered this already!
I explained their beliefs.
From my post Above:
“They believe in Xianity, but they acknowledge that we are the Chosen people.”
This was an explaination of my previous post.You gotta read all my before questioning them!
Ujm -“The jury was intimadated by the mobs waiting to riot, loot and burn if the desired guilty verdict wasn’t achieved. So the jury complied under threat”
Any decent Defense lawyer would demand that the Trial take place out of Minneapolis.
He didn’t stand a chance for a Just Trial!ENS & AAQ – Are you the same guy?
I’m sick of YWN allowing posters Multiple SN’s!
I think Ubiq has a Few.Now to answer:
I’m sick and tired – teaching Am Haretzes Torah!
The reason that Peshara is recommended is because it creates Sholom between e/o.
But the Strict Halacha is the most Ethical!
Our Torah is the epitome of Ethics!Go back to Yeshiva to learn some Torah before posting again!
Ubiq -“when is it up?
On 3/18/21 you said “One Goyishe Prophet said that within a month, Trump will be President again.
I believe it’s possible, but not probable.”
When did that month (or 15 days start) ?”I’m not sure.
The same guy said it will be up in 15 days a few days ago.
So give it some time.Btw, I’m not him.
You can post to him on his You Tube channel.Ubiq -“Whether I got the timing you meant right or wrong is completely irrelevant (I don’t listen to fake prophets I was going by what YOU said)
Bottom line is the prophet you quoted (and said you thought might be telling the truth) was wrong (exactly what dat you realized he was wrong doesnt change the fact that he was wrong)”Obviously I got the timing off.
We’ll have to see if the “so-called” prophet is right or wrong.
The time is Not up yet!CA -“So they don’t believe our religion is right”
Why would they?
They have a different religion.CA -“How do you believe both religions”
They believe in Xianity, but they acknowledge that we are the Chosen people.
Maybe they think that Jews will one day recognize that Yoshka is Moshiach.
I’m just guessing; I don’t know everything about other Religions.But one thing I see in Posters here – they don’t know a lot about our religion!
ENS -“Somehow strict halacha in your view takes precedence over ethics.”
This statement of yours, just now, shows how little Torah you know!
People who follow the Torah, know that what ever the Torah/ Halacha says is the most Ethical!
It’s other Religions that think Ethics aren’t part of their Laws.So what religion do you follow?!?
Ubiq -“The prophet who you quoted on 3/18
DEMOCRATS CHEATED, BIDEN WON
that “within a month, Trump will be President again.”
This prophet was wrong. Is he still a prophet? Is he a liar?
At the time when you thought he was worth listening to, that he might be a real prophet.
given that prophets are deaf kids or crazy, At the time which did you think he was ?”I hate repeating myself, but for you – Why Not?
“That was a different guy.
Btw, he just said in 15 days – Biden won’t be President.
So you got the wrong count when the 30 days started.
We’ll see if this guy is real or Not.”“1) the prophet who correctly predicted that Trump will be impeached twice. Was he deaf a kid or crazy?”
Who said any of those?
Maybe that Gemorrah is only by Jews, not by Goyim?!?
When you posted your post about SCOTUS – you just posted that you’re a Novi.
So are you deaf or a Kid?!?
Or the other one???TVOP -“I don’t think Chauvin will be found guilty of all the charges the Woke Mob want him to found guilty of.”
Sorry, I was right!
“They also will probably find Chauvin guilty to appease the Woke Mob!”You are probably living in 1980.
This country has gone Down faster than a Speeding Bullet!ENS -“These nonsensical debates here are an embarrassment”
The only embarrassment is your lack of Torah knowledge!
“Well I guess the Republican party supported Trump, a billionaire, who stiffed many a worker under the guise of bankruptcy laws, directly keneged Halacha. Actually, very severe halacha the GOP and many of you apparently celebrated him violating.
So lets quit with the who is against the Torah.”LOL!
The one issue that e/o agrees that applies, to Jews & Non-Jews, is Din Dmalchus applies to Money!
So you clearly see the people who Don’t keep the Torah are DemonCrats, Not Trump!Why don’t you get your Torah knowledge from the Bais Medrash and Not from the Internet?!?
Ubiq -“You call them “prophets” are they Deaf, Kids or Crazies?”
Well one prophet I answered -“Btw, he just said in 15 days – Biden won’t be President.
So you got the wrong count when the 30 days started.
We’ll see if this guy is real or Not.”And I answered about another prophet -“But if their prophecy comes true – they are real.
One prophet said that they will Impeach the the President. He said Impeach Impeach, two times.
This came true with Trump!”So the only prophet that we know for sure is crazy – is You!
CA -“The פסוקים in דברים י״ג:ב-ד says “when a prophet comes in your midst and gives a sign and says let’s go worship other gods don’t listen to him because ה is testing you”
“It seems like you’re failing the test”It’s obvious that you nothing about evangelical xitians!
They believe in Judaism and Xitianity.
They never said Jews should leave their beliefs.
If I were you, I’d be more Scared about Liberal Jews who are pushing more & more Jews to the Left!
(That means that they are doing more & more against the Torah.)CA -“I don’t think you understand what a נביא שקר is”
I understand, but maybe you should go Learn some Chumash.
It says clearly what it is!Ubiq -“what if, hypothetically a person predicted that , I don’t know , say that the Supreme court will dismiss a case as moot. If that were to come to pass, would that predictor be a prophet?”
Now you’re claiming you said that because you are a Prophet!
This I could believe, because Nevuah in our Generation was given to Deaf, Kids & Crazies.
I don’t think that you’re deaf or a kid.
That leaves one Choice!DovidBT -“The Torah says that laws should be applied equally.”
Some people should have Eved Cananny.
In the US, it’s illegal!
So the Torah doesn’t believe in Equity or Equality!Oh Jackk -“It’s the republicans who release cops who kill innocent civilians.”
Stop with the Lib Lies!
Not one person killed by cops was innocent!
Maybe they shouldn’t have been killed, according to American Laws, but they all were Criminals.
Maybe you libs should promote Torah laws with regards to Breaking the Law?!?Ubiq -“Or was that a different wrong guy?”
Mike Lindel is a businessman and not a Prophet!
He owns My Pillow.
He’s a patriot and that’s why he decided to show the World how the DemonCrats Stole last year’s election!Participant -“in fact they’ve disproven themselves. Biden is in office now? remember what you used to drivel not so long ago?”
That was a different guy.
Btw, he just said in 15 days – Biden won’t be President.
So you got the wrong count when the 30 days started.
We’ll see if this guy is real or Not.Participant -“you said on another thread they get their prophecies from hashem (thank goodness). did you ask them for a mopheis? ”
I don’t know them personally.
But if their prophecy comes true – they are real.
One prophet said that they will Impeach the the President. He said Impeach Impeach, two times.
This came true with Trump!Smerel -“How else can you explain their obsession with him and blaming him for everything after he is long out of office?”
I got news for them – M. Lindel says Trump will be President this coming August!
He claims that last year’s election was stolen for Biden by the Chinese.There’s also a prophecy that there will be 2 presidents at the same time.
I’m going for Trump.
Who are you going for?RE -“The ACA (Obama Care) was instituted recently, what have the Republicans done for the poor?”
What has the DemonCrats done for the Jews?
Don’t worry – I’m gonna post it!
This will prove – your obsession with the DemonCrats is like Avodah Zora!From VOX:
“How America’s rejection of Jews fleeing Nazi Germany haunts our refugee policy today:The St. Louis: the ship the US turned away:
On May 13, 1939, 935 people — almost all of them German Jews — set sail from Hamburg, Germany on a ship called the St. Louis. The St. Louis was headed for Cuba, but for most of the Jews aboard, the ultimate destination was the United States. Most of the passengers had applied for US visas, and were planning to move from Cuba to the US once a visa became available for them.In early June, negotiations stalled and the St. Louis was ordered to leave Cuban waters. It turned toward Miami instead.
US officials had already announced that the ship would not be allowed to land. And when the St. Louis got within a few miles of Miami’s harbor, the Coast Guard started tailing the boat to underline the point.
The US could have agreed to allow the passengers of the St. Louis to land and wait in America for their visas to be processed. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who a few years later would use an executive order to round up tens of thousands of Japanese Americans and put them in concentration camps, could have ordered that 900 German Jews be allowed to stay. He did not do so. FDR’s defenders (like his presidential library) stress that he never issued a “specific or official order to turn them away.” But he didn’t have to. His government was doing that for him.
254 of the passengers on the St. Louis died in the Holocaust.”
“Congress rejected a bill to take 20,000 Jewish refugee children”:
“Wagner-Rogers bill”:
“The bill’s supporters simply couldn’t marshal the support to counterbalance those arguments. And again, President Roosevelt declined to take a stand — and let restrictionist opposition carry the day. First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt supported the bill, and FDR gave her permission to advocate for it as a private citizen. But she didn’t. And FDR himself refused to take a stance on the bill. When a member of Congress wrote asking what his position was, his secretary filed the inquiry as “File: No action FDR.”When the Wagner-Rogers bill was taken up by the full Senate Judiciary Committee, committee chair Richard Russell — a Southern Democrat from Georgia who would later, during the civil rights era, become the Senate’s most powerful segregationist — amended it so that the 20,000 Jewish refugee children would count against the German immigrant quota for the year. This totally defeated the purpose of the bill, and the restrictionists knew it. It passed out of committee on June 30, but no one was interested in pushing it into law anymore, and no further action on it was ever taken.”
Do isn’t -“Daunte Wright, the 20-year-old Black man shot by a police officer in a Minneapolis suburb Sunday afternoon, had an open warrant for his arrest related to an aggravated armed robbery attempt when he was killed, according to court records.””
Don’t worry – Justice will be served!
The Muslim Minn. AG (the good friend of Minister Farahkan) has charged the lady Cop with 2nd degree Murder.
I wonder if any of his Bros were arrested for all the Rioting Last year?!?Hopefully the lawyers on her defense team know Law better than her.
What I would say – she shot him on purpose (No taser) because he’s has a weapon – the car. This is a good defense, especially when cops are trying to arrest him. They shoot many criminals in cars when they are pursuing them.
No weapon needed, just the perp has to know that they are trying to arrest him!Oh Jackk, -“America is a nation of laws.
Meanwhile , people who actually attacked the capitol and killed policemen are just a bunch of patriots who never would have thought of doing any harm.”Hey Jackk – Did you ever hear of something called the Constitution?!?
If you didn’t, I’ll tell you one part – All laws have to be applied equally.
So while the Looney Left is still Salivating about Jan. 6, what happened all last year?!?
If you forgot, the Looney Leftists rioted all last year.
How many were prosecuted for Attacking Federal Buildings?!?
And Btw, that’s what the Capitol is!
If you’re claiming that there was Sedition – you have to prove that.
Just like the Government would have to prove that with the Rioters in Oregon!YH -“The officer mistook her gun for a taser!!”
I agree with the Perp’s father – he said he don’t believe that she didn’t know.
She’s a cop for 26 years.So why did she lie & resign?
Simply, because a few blocks away the Muslim Minnesota AG is prosecuting a Cop for doing his job – by arresting and doing an accidental killing of a black man.
In the Lib minds – it’s better to leave the Black Man alone.
Who cares if he’s paying with Rubber money and will drive under the influence (which we now know is drugs)?!?Rightwriter -“Again, experimental vaccine means just that.”
Exactly. There’s a choice in this Country – some want to take the Pizer or the Monderna.
You can take nothing.So a New case of a cop killing a black man.
So what are the Liberals, like Biden gonna do?
I have it – No more Cops.
All stores should give everything for Free!
Only white people should pay for items.
This loonecy will make the whole world run here.
Thank you Libs!Smerel -“Rav Yaakov Kamestsky said that there may or may not be living creatures (animals) in space but there can not be people like creatures with Bechira because Hashem would not have created people with bechira with giving them some sort of guidance and Zos H’Torah Lo T’hay Muchlefus.”
I wrote this above:
“Humans are so far behind in intelligence – they pose no threat to these Aliens.
They’re probably one step behind Angels.”The reason that Humans have Bechira is because they aren’t too smart.
Any being that has intelligence, knows that there is a Boray Oolam.
Yes, there are life forms in this Universe that aren’t Malochim or Shaidim.
And they actually come to visit in Area 51 in Nevada.Look I understand why the Government kept it a secret all these years.
Most people can’t believe that there is a Boray Oolam, let alone there’s creations that have intelligence.
Chazal say Niskotu Huh-Oolam, you see more & more lack of Sechel in this World.
How could a person become President when he lost an Election?
I understand countries like China, Russia, etc., where it isn’t a Real election, but the US was a Free country for White people for 200 years!
Hashem won’t allow this Country to continue with the Extreme Liberalism that is taking place after the first impeachment of Trump!Orech Din -“Yeah… no. Restoring congressionally mandated funding to the poor and starving that we (Israelis) would rather not have grow into terrorists does not violate anti-terror laws. YWN “news” is little more than fictional propaganda so don’t take anything it says outside the yeshiva world seriously”
This is a fact – that the money given to Palistinians, for whatever reasoning, some of it ends up in Terrorist hands.
So stop believing the Lib Lies!
Biden is supporting Terrorism, no matter how you cut it!“Antivaxxers are like people who worship AZ.”
My abreviation was AZ – Avodah Zorah, Not Astra Zenica!
DovidBT -“That may be true, but the prosecution has argued that the police have a responsibility to do all they can to keep a person in their custody healthy, especially if he’s restrained, i.e. in handcuffs”
I believe that you are trying to be honest, Not like the Libs here.
You probably have no idea about police procedures.
Handcuffs are very little restraint.
Now if he was in a hobble restraint, then the prosecutors would have a good case!
But this case is about giving in to the Woke Mob, nothing to do with Justice!Oh Jackk -“Both autopsy reports concluded that floyd died due to Chauvin restraining him in a way not consistent with guidelines”
Stop with your Liberal Nonsense!
Cops have to do whatever they can to restrain a violent criminal.
And what Chauvin did with the Neck restraint was part of the Police protocol at that time.
They only removed this protocol, all over the US, because Floyd died when a cop used it!