haskafah

Zoomer when did you become the poske acharon.
Reb Moshe ztzl you to have people come and show them there shavers. He was known to test them on his arm seeing how it cut the hair. There are 2 organizations that have poskim/rabbanim that check and create appliances for the frum vely. They have a list that give you the names of shavers they found to be acceptable. Paskin for your not evryone else.

There is an institute in israel that has a list of all shavers they consider mutar this is based on extensive research they have carried out
Zomet.org.il

So Reb Moshe didn’t know halacha.That’s news to me and many more people in here.
Do you think Reb Moshe would check electric shavers as he did by running then up and down his arm to see what it did to his hair on his arm. Yes the shaver was off. Do you think he would paskin which shavers were good if it wass issur min hatorah. I don’t think so.

Shuli what malacha do u do
Also i did say its interesting that rav dovid lebowitz son did not wear long till rav aharon kotler told him to the current 2 rosh yeshivas just put on long after rav shmuael told them to
Rav pam who was a talmid movak of rav david lebowitz never wore long
Rav moshes son rav david doesnt wear long one of the rosh yeshivas in passaic also doesnt wear long so thete must be something to it and rav henoch lebowitz only wore long at simchas shabbos yom tov otherwise he wore a dark gray suite for many years

Very interesting conversation. As far as i understand, theres a machlokes if you have what i can call detacted payos or the sideburns that go down your face by your ear. As far i can ascertain, the “attached” sideburns is what the non chassidc world held is halachic peyos.
Did you assume all of the gedolim you mention look like that in thete youth.Also a number of gedolim including rav pam rav rav David Feinstein and foe a number of years rav henoch lebowitz didnt ware long
Also, there is a mahalach and it pertains to many areas of yiddishkiet that once something is not done for lets say a hundred years so then that becomes the meorah or mahleach to do it that way.

All of what i wrote came from a gadol whos Tata learned in slabodka and his haskafas came from him

Shuali
I wish you did some research and look at pics before the war
Look at slbokda Keli and any prewar Yeshiva group pics the Rosh yeshiva might have pesos but almost no yeshiva litvak had pesos my Rosh Yeshiva was against this minhag bec it wasn’t the litvish minhag in europe
Amongst bachurim neither were just black hats or black suites

Mussar is not dead. Its the degree of emphasis that is different. In Yershiva Chofetz Chaim the mahlaeach is such
that there is a half hour mussar seder ever day and 2x a week there is a smooze. Sunday there is a half hour chzaros hasmooze. The derech of the yeshiva also is that when talmidmi get to Beis Medrash they have to say 3 smoozim a year that are there own orginal smooze. lastly, the become trained when saying a dvar torah it has to be done by saying a smooze not yeshivasha reid. There is a very specfic way the smooze is constructed. So while this might seem extreme others say smoozin and have mussar seder.

its the yeshiva world that has changed not the derech of slabodka,. Acoording to those very serious bnei torah some of whom are today a rosh kollel, rav and others from before long beach was black and white and what it is today were wearing colored shirts spitzy slick dressers as were most other yeshivas of the day. ive been told it was Rav Aharon who introduced the idea of black and white for bnei torah. As i remeber those days back when, most yeshivas let the bachrim wear colored shirts, in style suits and hats etc. yes even chervon yeshiva the mesivtah bachrim were told to wear blue shirts. till Rav Dovid Choen became the rosh yeshivah. Rav Avrahom Kanerak the perhaps last talmid still living from Rav Baruch Ber said white shirts have nothing to do with frumkit. Society deems it a more formal type of shirt.

I have dealt with and known bachurim for a long time. Almost everyone responding here are partially responsible for the Off the derech problem. Any bachur who has a good self esteem will drink responsibly and exhibit other positive behavior. Also, with the pressure put on the bachurim today and everything that they can do to relax even if it is haskaficly correct, is deemed asur. now you have these dimwits saying a beer is asur, going to bbq is asur, sports is asur , listening to Jewish music is asur( yes this does exist)a I’ve told my boys and others that come to my house Fri night having a beer or 2 with chulent is ok, having a bbq and drinking 1 beer is ok but when some of them came shabbos afternoon with a large tote of beer i took it away. I told them theres no reason to have beer shabbos afternoon. You got to show them how to behave and most will listen is said the correct way.