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Btw- you do not have to tie up cardboard boxes. Fold them and put them in the garbage. We do this all the time and never once had a problem. But don’t keep them whole cuz then you might have a problem.
happiestMemberzahavasdad- I think you might be talking about Rav Dovid Goldwasser. He has a book out on ed’s too I think.
I had an ed in hs and my teacher asked our halacha rabbi (who is also a posek in the community and all around) and he said I wasn’t allowed to fast. Later I found out that from then on I wasn’t allowed to fast EVER again because if a person fasts for even one day after having an ed they might start to enjoy that feeling of being empty or of controlling the amount of food they put in their mouth. I didn’t listen to this and b”H haven’t had a problem with it but it definitely is something to think about.
Blabla- you can do it!! Stay strong, you can and will get over this!
happiestMemberDroid, they’re thinking that this is not his first time. There is evidence that he stalked other young boys as well and it is also said that that he probably got rid of evidence of what he did to little Leiby, a”h. I also heard from someone who was in on the details that we weren’t privy to know and he said things are being kept quiet about this issue so yes we don’t know for sure if he did it but chances are yes, he did and that there was a cover up.
happiestMemberfix-it-up, I think that most teens wouldn’t mind helping out. It’s a chessed. I know that if/when people call me to help out someone in a situation like or similar to yours, I try my hardest to help out and if that doesn’t work, I try to arrange for others to come by. It’s worth a try, no?
happiestMemberfix-it-up, is there anyway you can get some of the neighborhood teens involved? Maybe they can help with taking your others out so you can get that much needed rest you’re supposed to be getting. Or maybe they can help clean things up for you while you lay (or is it lie?) down. Things won’t be perfect because it’s not you doing it but it might make you feel better knowing that someone is taking care of something.
Anyway, refuah shleima and may the rest of the pregnancy go easy for you!!
happiestMemberThank you mods!!!!
happiestMemberI know I said I wouldn’t post on this thread anymore but being that no one else feels the need to, I think that I have to.
I just heard on the news that Levi Aron stalked other boys and that he tried to kidnap other boys before this. This makes him a pedophile.
I am begging everyone to not turn the other way when they know there is a pedophile/child molester in their midst. Please please report it to the authorities immediately. No one deserves to suffer from these people. I’m assuming that most people would feel very guilty if they KNEW that a certain person was an abuser and didn’t report it but then this abuser would either escalate to killing someone or the abusee would kill himself. I think people would feel very guilty over something like that. Let’s try to prevent that from happening!!
I hope this post gets posted… I know my last 2 didn’t get posted. I understand why, this is a VERY SORE TOPIC!!
happiestMemberI am definitely not overweight enough for surgery. I weight in the low hundreds but since I am built very small this is considered over weight for me. I know why I have gained weight, it is because I was on psych meds which made me gain a ton of weight. I’ve tried diets and exercise and feel like I’m at my wits end.
I’m going to do research into that Dr in Manhattan. I hope something pans out!!
Thanks for the ideas everyone!!
happiestMemberDon’t worry. I was under the care of a Dr when I was put on the Topomax. I have been on many diets under a Dr and nutritionists care. It seems like this is my last option…
happiestMemberActually terrified by it!!! I saw two right next to eachother. Very very scared!!!
happiestMemberI don’t want any of that acai (or however you spell it) stuff. They’re not safe. I’m not in2 herbal remedies or herbal medications. In my opinion (and my Drs’), they’re all fake and unsafe.
happiestMembermiddlepath, I wasn’t planning on posting again on this thread but I had to for you. I am so sorry that you have suffered thru this. All I can say is stay strong!!! I know it’s not saying much but I honestly don’t think that there is much that one can say in a situation like this.
You should have hatzlacha in your recovery!!! It’s not easy but it is possible. I am a true testament to that!!
Have a great shabbos!
happiestMemberthanks mod- you made my night:) lol.
happiestMemberSorry, dbt is dialectical behavioral therapy. It’s a little confusing and I probably wont do it justice so it might pay to google it but basically it teaches you coping mechanisms and all about being mindful and doing everything in the minute. Like not necessarily thinking too much ahead but thinking about getting thru the next minute. It is really interesting and really helped me a lot. There are different modules in it. I’m really not doing it justice though. It gives you exercises and breathing skills etc. I am really not a big believer in this ‘new age’ stuff, not a health fanatic and not into holistic stuff but I did this (finished it actually) and I am honestly a new person right now. It is something that I will take with me for life that can be used in any situation even for someone who is not mentally ill.
Wow, sorry this ended up being long… you can ignore it if you get bored of reading it:)
happiestMemberIf I’m not mistaken EMDR (eye movement and desensitization and reprocessing) is a type of hypnotist therapy that is used in abuse cases. I never really did research into emdr but that is the impression that I got. It helps the person remember incidences and with whom etc. I know of a couple of frum therapists who do this as part of their practice but it could be that since it’s for a health reason then it is allowed halachically but I would tell e/o to ask their own sheila of course.
happiestMemberTry coloring. I know it sounds really crazy but that’s what I did for a while when things were especially bad. My friend who is a social worker always told me to do that or like s2021 said run. She told me to do something that is mind numbing so you just will completely distract yourself.
Distraction is something they teach you in dbt (which I highly highly recommend!!!) I can give you other dbt tips too if you would like. They really helped me in my time of need.
Feel better and hatzlacha!!!!
happiestMemberI’m pretty sure mod80 thinks I’m a moron since I did kind of post a stupid comment in the ‘frustrating’ thread. I guess he has reason to think so since I did post it.
happiestMembermod80- good point. It didn’t make much sense. Sorry about that.
Listen, I’m going to say this. I can’t fight anymore with people. If they don’t want to admit or can’t see that it is as common as many people are saying it is then fine. We’re each allowed to think and see things differently than others. I am now officially taking a step back from this thread. Can’t say I enjoyed it while I was here since it isn’t a very enjoyable topic but thanks e/o for all your input.
msseeker- I can’t speak for minyan gal but your last statement does seem a bit harsh. My personal opinion though:))
happiestMembermsseeker- who said it is as bad as by others? It was said that it is rampant but no1 ever said that it is as bad as in other societies.
Also, ask any therapist, social worker, or psychiatrist. They will tell you that more than half their patients have some type of history of abuse.
happiestMemberoh… gosh. deizezooger, you burst my bubble:( But you do bring up a good point.
happiestMemberSooo funny. Someone told me that her locksmith came to put in a shabbos lock and asked her what she wanted the combination to be. She was having a hard time deciding so he gave her the suggestion of shabbos in gematria. She used it and then realized that probably everyone in the neighborhood who uses that locksmith probably has the same code- lol. I find this very amusing:)
happiestMember@aries- I didn’t mean to ignore what you wrote before. You are 100% rt about e/t you said. And I also want to say yaasher koach to you for starting an organization in relation to abuse!!!
Also, mod80. I think you’re being funny. These are well known rabbanim who are not talking about a regular spanking. I know that Rabbi Pelcovitz deals a lot with molestation and abuse related to that. For real, I think that many of you just want to stay naive and living in a little bubble which is fine with me but please don’t just assume that this is not a problem in our society/community because it is a MAJOR one!!!
happiestMemberReally strange. Apparently the mods deleted zahavasdad last post because I WAS NOT seeing things and just posting to the wall. You can ignore the first two lines of my last post since they now don’t make sense without her post there although I did think it was a very intelligent remark.
happiestMemberIMOP it is something you should use your brains about. If you are stuck in the middle of no where and it is past the hour that a towing company is open or for someone to come fix it then you can call Chaveirim if they don’t have set hours that they work.
happiestMemberzahavasdad, THANK YOU!!! I was trying to come up with a nice way of saying something like that but nothing was coming to mind.
I just want all of you to know that before I posted here I discussed it with a rav. I did not want to do anything against halacha. I was told that I am allowed to post (in general, not specifically on ywn) because it is those abusers doing the wrong!!
Again, I feel like whomever is saying that it is loshon hara, think for a second. If c”v it happened to your child or sibling, would you still think that it is loshon hara? Just curious to what people will answer to this…
happiestMemberSad. He was drunk and is now in lots of trouble. He faces up to 15 years in prison since he is charged with obstruction of justice and a couple of other charges as well. I’m sure someone will say that we don’t know the entire story which is true… we really don’t.
happiestMemberAny kin.d of abuse is horrible but what I’m specifically talking about right now is physical/molestation.
happiestMemberummm- I hear that Best Buy is very helpful with computer buying. My sis bought one from them and they were very helpful!!
happiestMemberI’m not saying that all of these at risk teens were abused but many of them were and if we’re at the point where we’re going to say that some of them make it up so we’re not going to believe any of them then that can be very detrimental to those who really were. observanteen- I’m not saying you are at this point I’m just saying that in general.
Also, I’m having a hard time figuring out how to write it but if according to this rabbi of mine many of the at risk teens have gone off because they were abused and the at risk community is so large, doesn’t this prove that the abuse “issue” (hate using that word for it) is more rampant then most want to believe? Don’t know if I’m making sense here. It’s pretty clear in my mind what I’m trying to say but hard to write in words…
happiestMemberOy!! Nebuch!!! I wasn’t going to say anything but I know so many because I’m a survivor myself. When I started figuring things out for myself I came upon more and more people who went thru the same or similar situations as me. Once your in the situation yourself, you come out of the little hole you’re living in and hear about more and more people who had this same experience.
I used to be very close with this Rabbi who does a lot of work with at risk teens (b”H I’m not). The first time I spoke to him he asked me if I had been hurt in some way during my life- then he corrected himself and took back the question and said I’m assuming it did happen to you. Apparently, it is so so common for him to hear of it in the at risk communities.
Something to think about- if the at risk teens situation is so rampant and many many many of these teens had some type of abuse experience (which is why they are at risk) then this problem also has to be rampant, no?
happiestMemberThis is an excerpt from Rabbi Horowitz’s website
“How many children are we talking about? How many abuse victims are there? I posed this question to the three experts mentioned above. Each of them responded by saying that there is no research that they know of in the frum community and they have no hard numbers. But when I asked if they would say that there are a) tens, b) hundreds or c) thousands [of abused children]
The 3 proffesionals that this question was asked to are: Doctors David Pelcovitz, Barry Horowitz, and Bentzion Twersky. All 3 who are prominent Drs in our community! If you’d like more proof, please let me know.
happiestMemberobservanteen, one of my friends got engaged a while ago (she’s married now). Whenever she talked about her chosson she wouldn’t use his name. She would say ‘the boy’ or something like that. I thought it was so classy of her, sensitive. She wasn’t sticking it to us that she was engaged and we weren’t. Yes she talked about it and it was ok with us but she did it in a nice way.
happiestMembershlishi, I am going to come back to you with #’s so that you can have exact evidence that this is a major issue in the frum communities!!
happiestMembershlishi- it is so rampant it’s sick!! I can tell you a list of 10 or 15 girls (girls, not even women yet) who were abused in their lifetime. There is a website started by one of these people for survivors, I will ask her how many people are part of that website as of now. You think it is not rampant because it is not talked about because everyone is afraid to talk about it. Oy, I’m crying that people don’t think it’s rampant. It hurts me sooo much!!!
happiestMemberBloomingdales online is the best out of all!!!
happiestMemberpopa- I actually hear what you’re saying. It really makes a ton of sense to me. Maybe that’s because I once (stil do?) have low self esteem.
and chein- I think I also understand why someone might rather it be an issue of self esteem rather than bad middos. If it’s bad middos then it says something about the person, that the person might not be a nice person or just plainly has bad middos but if it’s low self esteem then it means that they’re suffering (not sure if that’s the right word to use) with something that they themselves might not even know about.
happiestMemberThank you to all that agree with me. I was so nervous that no one did since someone disagreed with me, I was nervous that all people (or most) were of the same opinion as this person.
Do any of you think there is something that we can do about it? Besides for educating our children?
happiestMemberWIY- you are right. We definitely should give children ‘the talk’ but it should also somehow be brought up that if a family member is doing it they shouldn’t be emb to tell an adult. It is not their fault and they should not have to suffer alone!! I know so many lives that have been damaged (for good?) because of this. It hurts me to think about:(
happiestMemberI am having a problem with ywn on my blackberry torch. There are no words, just lines and more lines. I can’t click on anything…
I happened to be in the ATT store and asked them about it thinking maybe it’s a problem with my phone but they told me it has to be a website issue. Any way of fixing it?
Thank you in advance!
happiestMemberRecently, we had someone come collecting by us and when I opened the door I jumped a mile. I was totally not expecting someone black to be at my door. I am not racist I just live in a very jewish neighborhood and this is not of the norm. I felt so bad because he was wearing a yamalka and saw that I jumped. I gave him money and the next time he came, I was less taken aback so did not jump. I still feel bad about it though:(
happiestMemberthe Neiman Marcus cookie recipe is AWESOME!!!!
happiestMemberThank you whichever mod let this through!!!!
And aries- thanks for agreeing. Finally, someone does!
happiestMemberOk… here goes nothing.
It’s related to the topic of the dreaded “A” word- abuse.
It was said in the coffee room that it is not rampant and that it is not such a major issue in the frum community.
Here are my feelings on the topic.
It is rampant but it is covered up. But even if it wasn’t rampant even ONE case of it is a horrible thing especially since we are looked at as a nation even more closely than any other nation in the world.
Here is a quote from a Rabbi and a Dr that I contacted since I was very bothered about the fact that people think that it isn’t such a big deal in our communities-
“It is rampant. It is covered up. Even one case is one too many. We and the rest of the world hold ourselves to a higher moral standard. The Jewish community is on the verge of a “Priest Scandal, which the media will love to expose widely. We need to shape up and do it quickly before even one more neshoma is destroyed. My humble opinion and observations.”
Mods, I understand if you don’t let this through but it would really mean a lot to me if it was. You can close the topic afterwards if you’d like. I just really want my comments to be heard for once and for all. Thanks;)
For you, anything 🙂
happiestMemberI agree oomis. I had when people use the word retarded in their everyday convo. “She is acting retarded…” or “she is mental”. It bothers me cuz unfortunately there are people who really are and it’s just not a nice phrase to use in our everyday language. It’s a pet peeve of mine actually.
happiestMemberguess it’s just not something they’re willing to help in:( Sorry adorable! Wish I could figure out some way to make this work.
happiestMemberhmmm, thanks sister bear. I’ll have to check that out!! I’d rather the blue but definitely won’t complain if they have the green lol.
happiestMemberIt’s so annoying… we’ve been looking and looking for the blue Must gum and can’t find it anywhere. I think they’ve stopped making that and the green one too:( Nothing compares to the blue Must so it’s a little sad for us.
happiestMemberderech hamelech- I think you’re right about that. I definitely experienced it that way.
Mods, please? Sorry for being such a pest. I just feel like if I can help someone in a situation like this then I would love to do all I can!
Thanks:)
happiestMemberblabla, amazing!!! You are SOOO talented:)))
happiestMemberadorable- if the mods let me send it to you somehow, I’d love to tell you. My (former) therapist is amazing and very understanding. She also does DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy) but she does standard therapy too.
Mods, is there a way that I can send it to adorable?
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