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I would put the Dr. in his 40s or perhaps 50s.
WIY, Why it should be very simple: just look out for the guy who always Davens in the front in Shomer Shabbos, and who is carefull not to walk in front of others during their Shmone Esrei. I just don’t know if you are still there by the time I show up, when I go there. That means that you’re definitely not the guy collecting:)
Chazal aren’t telling stories, they are teaching Torah. Often you’ll find different depictions from different places in Chazal. In the Medrash you can see more to the conversation that Reb Yochanan Ben Zakay had with Vespasian, than what the Gemara mentions. It is not a contradiction of the facts, it is merely a difference of depiction. Each one is pointing out the important facts.
If we would read about our time in Chazal, we would also be surprised at what is left out. As the Maharal often explains, what we see in the Gemara is Chazal’s perspective of what is important and noteworthy.
It may be that Avaraham Avinu said those words exactly, and it can also be that he didn’t even mention those words at all. Chazal are telling us what his answer was, in essence.
To further explain this concept, if I were to tell you that a fence tells you not to enter, even if it is very simple to step over it, you wouldn’t ask, ‘but a fence can’t talk!’ Actually, a fence can talk, albeit it can only say one thing. It also does not have a choice to say it or not. Often, something is considered said, when actions are what spoke it.
Nobody listened in to the conversation of Avraham and Eliezer. Chazal knew what the reason is that he didn’t want to be Meshaddech with him. Chazal also Darshened from the Pesukim that Eliezer hinted that he would want to be Meshaddech. The answer is implicit in Avraham Avinu’s actions. Eliezer might have understood himself or he might have not. If the latter was the case, then Avraham Avinu answered him, surely in a nice way.
By the way, it says that after this Shlichus, Eliezer’s status was changed to Baruch. So it definitely wasn’t a personal insult. It was a Yichus issue. We find in the Gemara an instance where a Talmud did not want to marry his Rebbe’s daughter because he felt that his Yichus is better.
If you want a quick fix, plastic table cloths are pretty good insulators, and you get to keep the view.
When Chazal say what he answered it is not a quote, it is his reason and therefore the root of any response he said no matter how he said it. He might have told him, I love you very much and you’re a great guy, but there is a certain Yichus problem which is not your fault at all.
Why should he be worried about an adult? It was bad in his eyes to send out his son. Hagar was Sara’s maid
There is a concept of Yoshav Velo Avar Aveira, but that’s only when the situation comes up and you refrained because of the Mitzva. It could be that even if you can’t do it, but you have in mind that you will not do it now because of the Mitzva, it also has merit. I think I once heard of something like this.
The idea of Lefum Tzara Agra doesn’t negate S’char from a Mitzva that was easily come by – it only adds to it.
Thanks, Pashuta Yid. Very powerfull.
Other than focusing on the reasons for going off, which are as many as there are people, we can focus on the routes to going OTD. Either Emuna starts to go or interest in the outside world gains a bigger and bigger place in the mind or the Taava.
Each of these things target different situations. What makes someone susceptible to any of these could be anything, but the challenges available are pretty specific, and can be addressed. The Gemara does say about the Taava of Arayos that it takes the person till the end. It doesn’t say about Lashon Harra that thinking about it is worse than doing it.
Sacrilege. (fake), MosheRose?
Does embarrassing someone in the CR count?
But isn’t that the best thing for the human race? I mean, instead of bad genes laying dorment for generations, let nature root it out right away! This should be good German logic.
SJS, why are you talking about commitment and coercion within the framework of a regular legal agreement of money and medical decisions? It should be an option to have again agreements and one way agreements, too.
If they want to they can make a new kind of arrangement without any mention of marriage that would be exactly what you mention, a legal contract for visitation and inheritance. The document should work for siblings and dogs or caretakers. The fact is, they are after the Marriage title. They are actualy after the Marriage Institution. So look at it this way: We, the people at Marriage Institution, want to keep our institution running. You can open your own if you so desire, but don’t knock down my time honored institution.
If the government sanctions this redefinition, it is the new norm. Government is not your quiet neighbor. It is the creator of standards, or breaker thereof.
I’m considering Tumtum as one Kasha (not anymore) and Aylonis as a second.
While I consider the first Kasha answered, the second one is definitely a hard one. It was an attempt, not definitive. Anyhow, not necessarily does it have to mean that there was nothing at all. It could be refering to essential parts.
Thanks Venish, and I fully agree with your serious note. As I wrote earlier, when I couldn’t stand the Hashkafos in the other site, I stopped going there. It just doesn’t make sense that he would consistently post the same thing.
- Cooking with a microwave. Since cooking in direct sunlight is Muttar because it is not Derech Bishul, although cooking by something heated from the sun is Assur. So is a microwave the new Derech or is it too similar to other methods and therefore has a Din of Tolda Dechama or is it Muttar?
- Is it Doresh El Hameisim to communicate with a spirit through white noise?
- Would one put on Teffilin on an artificial but fully integrated arm?
- Is pressing buttons on an electronic device Assur on Shabbos? Is any closing of a circut considered Nolad, Tikkun Manne, Makka Bepatish, or Binyan; or only turning on the device?
With regard to Tumtum, Tosafos in Yevamos 64, I think, says that obviously that was resolved by the time they were married. The point is more that anyone that was that way can’t have or is unlikely to have children. As far as Ailoness goes, perhaps it is still possible to have a cycle with out being fully equipped.
He didn’t ignore it. He wrote that he sees now that there is a Hetter but he will continue to be Makpid Keshuras Haddin. V’tavo Alav Bracha.
As a rule, if you want people to admit to you when you are right, you have to allow them. If they know that you’ll laugh and say, “See? I’m right and you’re wrong!”, they’ll just refrain from admitting. Just as you must be a gracious loser, so to must you be a gracious winner. Ben’fol Oivecha Al Tagil.
Now let’s see if we can figure out what his other screen name is. Is it one of the moderators, just to add some spice to the conversation? Hey, y’know? It’s growing on me. Why would the moderator let such a conversation go on if it’s not really him, and the Moderator is the only one who took him really serious! McCarthyism?
Check the Midrash.
Do you work for the KGB?
mw13, you can’t make up my position and then argue with it. I did not mention what you said in my argument, and you did not refute or mention what I wrote. Only helpful Helpful addressed my last point.
BeHappy, are you mosherose? We are discussing a screen name, and are trying to decide if he is for real or not. Am I falling into a trap by answering you?
Strong instead of B, And EM instead of I.
It’s very improbable that he is genuine. He doesn’t join any conversation, or say anything other than his rubber stamp. Also, someone that has such different views than the whole crowd and doesn’t find any like minded comrads, would leave. When I saw how the other site was full of Hashkafos that I despised of, I left. Neither would he have kept quiet on this thread (now it’s too late).
I wonder if he has another screen name in which his Dr. Jeckel side gets to have a say.
He doesn’t sound for real. I forget which thread it was, but there was a discussion questioning a Halacha and he posted his rubber stamp there, too. Even someone with extreme Haskafos knows that Torah is to be discussed.
The kind of person that makes people feel good is the one that actualy means it. That is the real trick: to first tell yourself or think so in the first place, and then tell the guy Devarim Hayotzim Min Halev. I know people who spray wonderful words at everyone, and I have a very hard time talking to them. You just know when someone is saying something because the words are nice.
WIY, Is it a valid conversion if he thinks it’s fine to pass in front of someone Davening :?)
island, there was a large
To those who don’t understand or have a problem the original question,
This is a term that people use. The question is, what is its usage. I don’t recal using it myself, because it’s not a ‘real’ description. But I would say that it refers to the kind of person who has his own ambitions, the person who isn’t afraid to keep himself company. This is much more than just saying the truth or not being two faced. A person is more of a real person, so to speak, when his actions are based on his own plans and he’s aware of himself. The opposite of this is someone who always tries to elicit a laugh from anyone; who in a sense doesn’t live for himself; who depends on others for his identity.
Look, that’s a possible distinction, but not the kind that you make up without a Kasha to answer. I think the ball lies in your Rav’s hands.
Just a thought: Although many of us have a hard time keeping a focus on the meaning of the words, we are still aware of who we are praying to and standing in front of. We still want him to listen, and we say at the end, Yihyu Leratzon Imrei Fi. Therefore there is no reason for the Shechina not to be there. In other words, although you stopped thinking about De’ah, Bina and Haskel, you still think about Baruch Ato Hashem.
But do you agree at least not to knock people over?
Also, it is Assur to knock over someone Davening, even if you are already passing through. I think we can all agree on that one.
The Gemara says already that we don’t have Kavana and the Halacha exists nevertheless. But, I have heard numerous Heteirim through the years. There are stories of Gedolim who stayed out of Shul until everyone finished.
There are a few things involved here. Walking in front is Assur because of Kavana. Passing through or sitting, for a non-Mitzva is a problem all around because of the presence of the Shechina. Perhaps the less Kavana someone has, the less you have have to worry about the first part but the second, albeit less Chamur, problem still exists.
There is a concept in other areas of Halacha that you can’t Assur someone else’s property. I’ve heard this applied to our topic, too. In the isles and even near other places, when the person is sort of stepping into others’ territory, he is giving up or can’t Assur his 4 Ammos.
We can always see Medakdekim being careful about this, but it’s hard to give numbers because most people stay by their place throughout the Tefilla.
Also, learning the Halachos gives you a connection to the time.
Vegetarians is a much better example than your women and black examples. However, the issue here is that we are not stopping them from doing what they want – the equivalent to stopping us from eating meat, we just want to keep our own turf, too. We, the normal people don’t want the government sanctioning the breakdown of the concept of a normal marriage. Like I wrote earlier, they can get their visitation and inheritance rights without doing this. The only reason they are being so vociferous about it is to make US teach OUR kids that our own values aren’t true.
I get the feeling, SJS, that you feel that you owe the world everything for the fact that you are Jewish. While I am thankful for the tolerance America offers, I don’t have that complex.
One more point is not to evaluate yourself during Shabbos, asking yourself what you are presently feeling. Sometimes after the fact it is easier to look back and realize how wonderful it was. Focus rather on how to utilize this holy time, and that makes the Kedusha a part of you. Hashem gives up these feelings sometimes to show us what we can reach. You didn’t falter by not retaining it – it was a gift of being to gain a real live understanding of what levels there are to attain.
May your life be filled with Kedusha.
Because it’s a waste of a thought if you don’t ‘get the message out.’
Sometimes I feel like I’ll actually make a difference. It’s also fun, of course – it’s like giving a speech without having the fright that comes along with it.
Maybe we can start a thread on Would You Be Willing To Divulge Your Identity. After some shouting matches and a few silly statements and jokes that fall flat . . _ would you be willing to still show your face?
mosherose to the rescue!
And you don’t believe in Mutav Sheyapil Atzmo Letoch Kivshon Ha’eish, that it is worth throwing oneself in a fire rather than to embarras someone.
The three things that the Gemara mention where it is permitted to lie are cases of humility, modesty and consideration. To transgress an Aveira in order to say the truth is ridiculous.
According to psychologists (and common sense, of course), lack of discipline to our children causes a disconnect rather than a connection. The child doesn’t feel that he is living up to a standard and is left on his own. When you demand something from him, that is a psychological grasp, or holding his (mental) hand.
In the same vain, we feel Hashem’s love when he answers our Tefillos, but there is also a very strong and close connection to be realized when we get a message of discipline, too. For example, once I was in a rush and therefore didn’t want to go a little out of my way for someone. As I went on my way the road became blocked, and I ended up having to go down that same street that the person wanted to go. This is not a Ness, but when it happens right away and in the manner of instant feedback you feel the closeness of Hashem as a father guiding His son.
Why is that a Stira? Everything is planned, but for some there are better plans.
I never saw someone be Modeh in the CR. Is it just a trick to get me to be Modeh :?)
I agree that it is of marginal importance but I wonder if it is really global or just regional, or perhaps a global shift. It seems that whenever there is a heatwave in one place, somewhere else is getting its coolest record. Besides the fact that the data was found to be rigged, the real estimate was for one or two degrees change over a century. Therefore, how can they declare on hot days that it is a display of global warning?
WIY, Oh so that’s you?
Reb Menashe Klein writes that there is an understanding today when someone Shtells in middle of nowhere or even in a packed Shul, that it isn’t his space and people may pass. I think there are others, too, who pulled up Heteirim.
First of all, perhaps you are not aware, but they are very aggressive. They made the schools change their books to redefine family. They would go after anyone who publicly denounces such activity. In Europe, a preacher was sued or arrested. My main issue is the fact that they are making the general public redefine something which is against their morality. All those abilities that you mention can be granted by consention forms, and if not, I’m fine with changing that. But we don’t have to hinder our morality. Remember, we aren’t against a people, we are against a behavior.
Do you have any problem with those who call themselves Messianic Jews? I do, and I believe I have a right to. It is highjacking something which belongs to someone already.
They hated Jews. That’s all. They knew that we don’t believe in their beliefs, and that bothered them. In America it was decided, for the benefit of those who were tormented in other lands, to tolerate someone who doesn’t hold your beliefs. They never agreed to accept that Christianity was wrong! Neither would they tolerate us redefining Christianity as The Religion of Plunder.
That is bad news. You just dismiss a Gemara like that? I would much faster dismiss something from the Moreh Nevuchim, like most of Klal Yisroel. The Rambam himself doesn’t use what he wrote there, in the Yad.
Anyhow, the Rambam starts off by bringing alot of Pesukim showing that everything happens for a reason. Then he says that this is only for humans – there is no Gezeira from Hashem specifically on any specific animal or leaf that it should fall or be caught. Then he goes on to say that since the special Hashgacha is due to the Sechel, it follows that the more you got the more Hashgacha you’ll have. For an example, he mentions the special Shmira that the Avos had. Then he mentions that Risho’im lose their Hashgacha, they lose their Shmira, and will certainly get hurt soon enough. What you wrote here, to someone else, is the outlook that the Rambam attributes to Aristotle.
What the Rambam writer about Risho’im is nothing new. It is a Pasuk, Vehelachtem Imi Bakkeri… This is also with Din. It is in fact what Chazal say about Mipi Elyon Lo Tetzei Haraos. Whenever something bad happens, it wasn’t Hashem’s hand punishing, it was Hashem leaving the culprit alone.
If what you say is true, we wouldn’t make a Birchas Hagomel. You would have to thank Chance instead of Goodness.
Another point: The Mekubalim say that even what the Rambam says is a Mikre, is also from Hashem. This too is not necessarily refuting the Rambam’s words. They also would agree that there is no Gezeira on each leaf. Being, though, that Hashem made the world and its weather and all the randomness comes from Him. So the idea is that ever thin that happens is Hashem’s plan. Even, and especially, the Mekubalim agree that there are Mazalos at play. Yet they still say that everything is from Hashem.
There goes that silly argument about blacks and women… Explain please, what is moral about not giving blacks an equal footing? I’m talking about wanting to stay up, while you talk about wanting to stay down. Besides, blacks and the others are a people who were singled out unfairly. This is a behavior which we don’t have to accept.
Again, and again, nobody is denying any rights, we are denying redefinition of morality. Who exactly was born with the right to change everyone else’s values?