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The same way the Rema understood it when he wrote the Darkei Moshe.
HaLeiViParticipantMore than that. It’s a rant against a very widespread misreading that, as is customary for Ameratzus, is plastered in your face.
March 21, 2017 6:28 am at 6:28 am in reply to: Just testing the various “allowed markup”s ☑️❎🆙 #1240000HaLeiViParticipant<code color=red>How does code show? And does color work in this way?
March 20, 2017 10:44 am at 10:44 am in reply to: Just testing the various “allowed markup”s ☑️❎🆙 #1239224HaLeiViParticipantThe link contained JavaScript to pop up an alert. Any well-made forum that allows links would make sure not to allow script, which can be devastating. Just checking.
Anyhow, what does that checkbox do, that notifies about follow ups? There is no Reply button. Is it about any future posts on that thread?
March 20, 2017 10:20 am at 10:20 am in reply to: Just testing the various “allowed markup”s ☑️❎🆙 #1239232HaLeiViParticipantIf it is an easy adjustment, I’d suggest allowing the dir attribute to blockquote and other tags. When you write Hebrew, the last period comes out on the right side. Although the browser is smart enough to show rtl characters right-to-left it doesn’t know to attach that last period to the Hebrew.
But until then, we can just add the ‏ (Right Left Mark) at the end. Thus we get:
טקסט שלם ימין לשמאל, כולל הנקודה.But allowing align=right would complete the picture.
March 20, 2017 7:13 am at 7:13 am in reply to: Just testing the various “allowed markup”s ☑️❎🆙 #1239066March 20, 2017 7:13 am at 7:13 am in reply to: Just testing the various “allowed markup”s ☑️❎🆙 #1239065HaLeiViParticipantWhat good is the class=”” option if we don’t get to put in our own styles?
Now, let’s see if dir is supported. That would make Hebrew come out normal for a change.
בא ונראה מה תיעשה בכיוון האותיות.
HaLeiViParticipantAnd I believe in Spontaneous Evolution. In fact, so spontaneous that it took place in six days.
HaLeiViParticipantIf you need the real answer, it was already supplied by chesedname.
HaLeiViParticipantmyfriend, it’s not really that much. In the database there will be one more field by each name showing how much his hits are worth, and another field in the comments table recording how many hits were recieved.
As far as being abused, perhaps. However they can always give it a try, or you can make a newcomer have a very low rating.
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HaLeiViParticipantIf they can’t be consistent then there another (complicated) method. The comments should go up right away, at least when all moderators are signed off. Every logged in user will find a button near each comment that they can click on to consider it inappropriate. If it gets three hits then it will have to wait for the mods. Additionally, for more realistic purposes, every user will be secretly saved by the mods or whoever how trustworthy they are, in their eyes. When a comment gets ten points off it goes. Trust points can be based on how often this user had to be edited and how angry he/she gets at other commenters, and how many times the user clicked wrongly on a comment and so on.
HaLeiViParticipantHey Moshe, if I were a motorotor I’d get dizzy pretty fast.
HaLeiViParticipantSoRight, if someone comes to you and cries that they are in trouble, you say, how do I know you’re telling me the truth? I don’t understand why you feel like you are fighting a holy war over here against a victim of that circumstance?
HaLeiViParticipantYes, it says specificaly about a Busha that it clears the record better than anything. I just wonder what the ‘eraser’ looks like.
HaLeiViParticipantWolf, save me a good place.
HaLeiViParticipantIt’s weird that basic concepts in Yiddishkeit are up for grabs, and people would rather think up original meanings or depend on a Pasuk when there are Sefarim available. It’s fine if you found an approach that you can relate to and you go by that, but to say you saw a word in the Pasuk or just what sounds sweet is where the trouble starts.
The Rambam didn’t make his Hilchos Dayos based on articles that he read or an inspirational email he got (that originated from a Christian website). He was Me’ayin in the areas of the Torah that those Midos can be learned. The same goes for all other Sefarim that deal with De’os. Even though you’ll find quotes from outside of the Torah, that is for technical support. They checked those opinions first against the Torah. They through out the window anything that didn’t echo the Torah’s perspective.
HaLeiViParticipantI’m talking about a Moredess. She gets a Get, just not a Kesuba.
December 6, 2010 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm in reply to: help, can I design pritzus clothing to sell to goyim? #721993HaLeiViParticipantBeing that you mention that you have a daughter at home, you actually don’t want to work from home. Perhaps you can get yourself a private office someplace.
As someone else here pointed out, even if it is technically ok, we wouldn’t want to have our hands in Tuma. However, Parnassa is not something taken lightly, even in Halacha. Perhaps Chazal were refering to this case when they said Pshot Neveila Bashuk V’al Titztarech Labrios.
HaLeiViParticipantmdd, the entitlement that you are refering to is about getting a Kesuba for her Get.
December 6, 2010 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm in reply to: help, can I design pritzus clothing to sell to goyim? #721991HaLeiViParticipantI’m talking about being Machshil them with Arayos, as in Eishes Ish. I don’t think there is a Chiyuv of Tznius for it’s own merit. That has to do with Vehaya Machanecha Kadosh. Hirhur, though, probably is a problem.
December 6, 2010 3:13 am at 3:13 am in reply to: help, can I design pritzus clothing to sell to goyim? #721987HaLeiViParticipantI think that it might be Muttar if you stay within the boundaries of what is already considered normal and decent. By non Jews there is also an Issur of Lifnei Iver when we are talking about something that they are Mechuyav. The thing we have to know is are they Oiver on these things that are Parutz by them already.
HaLeiViParticipantYeah, the book is about the 5, 6, or 10 most amazing Jews. Two of them are him and his wife. It is filled entirely with stupidity, like everything else they ever sent around. I only wonder if anyone educated ever converted without force or pressure.
HaLeiViParticipantReb Moshe told a Rav that being Mattir a woman to her husband is as important as being Mattir Agunos.
Does a Cherem on a man actually ban his wife from Shul?
HaLeiViParticipantIsn’t he assur to her during his Cherim? That might be a good enough reason to ask for a Get.
HaLeiViParticipantChazal say that an animal doesn’t attack a person unless he appears to it like another animal. This is what Baalei Musser usually bring up, to point out that most people don’t have one. The fact that Adam was created that way doesn’t mean that we all have it regardless of our actions.
Would you say that Lo Sallin applies to any human being? How’s about Hassoter Loyo Shel Chaveiro, and welcoming a guest, do they also include all mankind as if you did so to Hashem?
I’d agree that there are different explanations, or different levels of understanding it; according to the level of understanding, it applies to different people. The Maharal on Avos, after a threefold Biur, writes that it only applies to Klal Yisroel but everyone has something. Any human is created in the same shape, hence they also look like the Tzelem Elokim. The Mishna says Chaviv Ha’adam because it wasn’t given to Klal Yisroel per se, but only to the ones on the level of Adam. What does mod 80 hold?
HaLeiViParticipantI think most people do it, albeit subtly. Watch the eyes of a crowd when they are listening to a vivacious person relate a story in a very animated way. Their eyes open wide with his and their jaws drop when his does. Also, friends seem to pick up each other’s laugh.
HaLeiViParticipantIn the link that huh? so kindly supplied, that was the case. My issues with that was that his Kasha on Reb Moshe is based on a his own brand new Pshat that he learned into the words of the Rambam. From the Gemara there is no basis for his explanation/Kasha. His own Heter is also a little puzzling. He wants to consider someone about to die as a Mechuyav Misa. How does that differ from someone that would without a doubt be killed by the enemy surrounding the village, where we aren’t allowed to give him up?
To add a little to the subject, the Gemara seems to say that the reason we would kill the fetus to save the mother is because it is not yet considered a full fledged person. The Rambam however, says that we kill it because it is Rodef. Rabbi Akiva Eigger asks this and says that although killing a fetus would not beget a Misas Beis Din, it is still a transgression of Retzicha. Therefore the Rambam says that we would kill it as a Rodef. Reb Moshe points out in another Teshuva that a Treifa has the same Halachic status as a fetus. Therefore in the case that was discussed then, the Baby A, who was definitely a Treifa, and a Rodef can be killed to spare the other one. Reb Moshe didn’t say this because, probably, in a different Teshuva, he answered the Rambam differently, that when they are co-existing side by side then neither is the Rodef. Whereas, however, it is still a fetus he is being the trouble maker. In the above link he seems to differentiate based on if it is depending on the other, and that makes it not be side by side.
HaLeiViParticipantWhen one dies, that can cause the other to die. Would he be called a Rodef by dying?
HaLeiViParticipantAnd how do you know that they have a Tzelem Elokim? It’s not even a definite fact that every Yid has one. Yes, it’s true that they are Hashem’s Maase Yadayim, but don’t stretch it.
Why do you feel that you have to find an excuse to behave appropriately? What’s wrong with the simple requirement of any human being to act like one?! The same reason you expect any non Jewish person not to spit you in the face or to cover his mouth when he sneezes or even not to steal, is the reason why you behave accordingly. The reason I stop by a red light is the same reason the guy on the opposite side does, not because of Dina Demalchusa – which doesn’t really apply here anyhow. That is what Reb Shlomo Zalman and the Mirrer Rosh Yeshiva were saying.
HaLeiViParticipantBeing that this is a discussion of what factors are in play, and we are not trying to figure out the bottom line, we can go on. Fast, close the thread before someone has the chance to answer.
HaLeiViParticipantWIY, Where does the Pasuk refer to anyone but Klal Yisroel as His children?
HaLeiViParticipantHuh?, Huh?
HaLeiViParticipantWhich one would be the Rodef?
HaLeiViParticipantLike Tosfos says, it takes alot for a whole paragraph to fall in. Most probably the other Nusach was changed to match the other Midrashim.
I had to write this, because there is no way to delete a double post.
HaLeiViParticipantIf you think I wasn’t talking to you about disregarding Rashi based on your values, which is true, why do you respond to that?
The Gemara also has some differences in letters in the Torah. Did you ever see Rishonim saying it is wrong? We say it is different.
I’m aware of the fact that there was a different Seder Olam in France than the one in Bavel at the time of the Geonim. Somebody tried quoting Tosfos as saying that there are conflicting versions of it, and that is wrong. Personaly, I would give more validity to the one used by the Rishonim rather than something we came across, being that they edited out what they saw fit and we can assume that their Nusach was chosen and perfected by them.
Then there is the aspect of Hashgacha. Just as we say that Hashem is present in Beis Din, so too do we apply that to the Torah of the generations. We cannot disregard a Rashi no matter what. Chazal say that Hashem quotes the Chachamim, even though the reason for Machlokes is the lack of passing the Torah down. What caused it is one thing, but now it is Torah that is a product of Torah Lishma and is added to and a part of the ever growing tree of Torah. When Rishonim argue on Rashi they don’t say he is wrong, they use the term, it does not shine. We seldomely find ‘wrong’ in the Rishonim or Acharonim, even in the face of alot of proof.
So, while it is fine to point out that there are different Nuschaos, there is a way to approach that without saying that Rashi is wrong. Talking like that is what got you responses saying that you have no idea who Rashi was, which of course we don’t, and other derogatory statements (besides for your political leanings, which seems to be the worst sin). Our approach to Torah is not like a professor browsing ‘texts’. It’s our Torah and our lifeline and our connection to Hashem.
HaLeiViParticipantTosfos says that the Seder Olam says that she was three. Tosfos actually goes ahead and says that it can’t even be a mistake in the text since the whole conversation there is explaining how we get age. He only says that there are other Midrashim that argue.
I don’t understand how you can say about something that Rashi brings and accepts, that it doesn’t make sense on the basis of your “advanced” moral standards. If only you would have been around in Rashi’s day you coulda taught him a thing or two.
HaLeiViParticipantActually, Rashi had access to more Medrashim than we do. Keep in mind that many Sefarim were lost when they were burned in france. Also, Rashi didn’t depend on what was in his local library. He travelled alot. I found Rashi using a Russian word to explain a Pasuk, and Polish too. You can’t just dismiss a Rashi off hand, even if it doesn’t fit your fancy. Before wondering how Yitzchack was able to marry her, did you stop to think that no one in her family objected on the grounds of her age? They asked her and valued her position.
The Meinekes is probably her caretaker.
We must realize that although you can find that a Rishon wasn’t privy to certain information, like text or science, what he writes is Torah. In other words, when you find a piece written about the four elements, although these are not considered anymore to be the elementary basics of matter, we learn and revere what he writes. If a Tzadick were to pass a painting, and he would comment on it and point out rome great idea that we can learn from that piece of art, we listen to what he says, which is truth, but we don’t delve into that artwork. So the Rishonim utilize the current science for purposes of Torah, and we learn and internalize that Torah, because it is Torah Leshma and written with Ruach Hakodesh.
Tosfos says that the Medrashim argue on this. How to reconcile that with Eilu Va’eilu is a different topic. However, we don’t pick sides, we learn all of them because they are all Torah.
November 28, 2010 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145710HaLeiViParticipantYes, I understand that. I was talking about those who are to be found there today.
When the 4 captive rabbis where redeemed, there was obviously an already established Jewish community there in Spain, which would show that they got there before the end of the Geonim period. Although, the fact is that there aren’t any known Rabbanim before that time in any other land. This could be likened, however, to the situation in America, where the Torah came long after the Jewish communities.
As an interesting fact, I read in a Jacob Marcus book a letter that an Arab man wrote to his brother, in the time of the Amoraim, describing a boat ride. The captain was Jewish and on Shabbos he refused to control it. This Arab hung his sword over the captain’s head and threatened his head, but he ignored him and learned from a scroll. Then, when a storm came and became dangerous, the Jew said that now it is a matter of life and death and he may now control the skipper.
It seems from here that Yidden were all over the place at that time already. Also, you see how the Jew knew not to take an Arab seriously. Another thing I saw in this letter was his overblown description of the terrible events that happened then, and that you’ll never believe it had you not seen it yourself. I guess now is not the first time they’ve been feeding the media.
HaLeiViParticipantAlong the lines of WIY, I’ve heard of such questions as isn’t this an unnecessary Ness. The thing is that the Menora is a unique Keli. The Gemara says that Hashem, who shone light on up for forty years, doesn’t need us to give him light. The purpose the Menora is to show that the Shechina is among us, by the daily Ness of the western candle not going out until the next day’s lighting. In the second Beis Hamikdash, this Ness did not take place, so obviously the lighting was sort of a Zecher of the Ahava that was shown to us.
At that point, where the Yidden were Moser Nefesh for the Mitzvos, Hashem decided to show us that same Ahava. That is the Menora in its real, original glory.
HaLeiViParticipantRamchas, thank you. That is really good.
HaLeiViParticipantFirst read the online version of The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion. Why reproduce it here?
November 28, 2010 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145708HaLeiViParticipantI think it’s the other way around: after the Girush, many Sefardim went to arab lands, perhaps including Persia.
November 28, 2010 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145706HaLeiViParticipantWell we know that many Yidden were taken as slaves to Rome. Also, Rome had a system where it was not too difficult for slaves to become freed. We find in the Mishna references to a a Jewish community in Rome. As to the rest of Europe, it was all Roman Empire territory. Once Charlamagne ruled, he united all of Europe. Being that he was the best king that Europe saw down until our time (besides of course, King Christian of Denmark), it makes sense that the Jewish community expanded throughout Europe. But, admittedly, this last part is only speculative. Actually some families have a Mesora that they have been in Ashkenaz since Churban Bais Rishon.
November 28, 2010 7:40 am at 7:40 am in reply to: Dealing with difficult or annoying people: My theory #713739HaLeiViParticipantWhat DovidM is saying is also at the root of certain behaviors that Yidden have that outsiders can’t stand. We act toward each other in a sort of sibling fashion and some people take it to the outside world, too. This is besides the cultural differences that we have.
This summer, after what I thought was a friendly chat with a shop owner, I realized that I was annoying him. When this situation repeated itself, I came to the conclusion that I was obviously getting too personal, something that would make sense with another Yid. It never occurred to me before, but I was forced to realize that I am part of a different culture and I still have more to learn about this country’s culture.
November 28, 2010 4:59 am at 4:59 am in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145705HaLeiViParticipant1- That’s interesting. I never heard that Torahs Kohanim is more Meduyak than Tosefta.
2- As to your second point, your point is true but the example is either a mistake or a typo. The Zohar Hakadosh says not to wear Teffilin, while without the Zohar Hakadosh we would probably be all wearing Teffilin on Chol Hamoed.
3- I wasn’t calling Torahs Nigle an offshoot. On the contrary, that leads you to the direct will of Hashem. I was refering to reasons given for Mitzvos. For example, if Shabbos is all about remembering the 7th day, why don’t we just eat a big cake shaped like a seven and then go to work?
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November 26, 2010 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145702HaLeiViParticipantIn your second question, I’m not sure what you mean by the difference between Mirashei Aggada and Toras Kohanim. The differences I see are that Medrash is not necessarily written by Tanoim or even Amoraim; it depends on which Medrash. Also, Medrash is not as clear of mistakes as the other Seforim that were constantly learned. Lastly, we don’t Pasken from Aggada.
This last idea has a few parts to it. First of all, as I wrote earlier, we can’t act on what we see as the reason for a Mitzva, since we never can get to the bottom of it with Sevara. We were given the rules and ways to derive the proper Halacha from the Torah. In fact, as the Maharal writes, we go the opposite direction: First we figure out the Halacha, and from there we gain an insight into the reasons for the Mitzva.
Second of all, Aggadeta Gemaros aren’t sifted and ground by Chazal. Therefore, we can’t be sure we really know when and where to apply it.
There is of course the famous reason too, that often times it is not meant to taken literally.
Of course nothing takes away from a clear cut Gemara (usually). However, when something is not discussed in Bavli, we follow Yerushalmi. If it isn’t discussed there either, than we’d follow Medrash, too. The Rambam even Paskens sometimes like a Torahs Kohanim rather than a Gemara. The Or Hachaim explains that the Rambam held that the Amoraim didn’t have the whole Torahs Kohanim, and had they seen it, they too would have agreed.
One more thing. Let’s keep in mind that all Mitzvos have a reason in Sohd. Even when Reb Shimon argues with another Tanna in the Mishna, we don’t say that since Reb Shimon knew the ‘real’ meaning, we should listen to him. As mentioned above, the Halacha is known from the regular ways, the 13 methods. Reb Shimon Bar Yochai, who excelled in Sohd, was able to know the hidden meaning behind the Halacha. That means that ‘after class’ he would tell his students the hidden reason for the Halacha as he Paskened and the hidden reason for the Halacha as his friend Paskened.
Now we can get back to the issue at hand. If the Zohar Hakadosh differs from the Gemara, we obviously Pasken like the Gemara. The thing gets sticky when we have Rishonim that already Paskened a certain way and then the Zohar Hakadosh was found. The Metzaref Lechachma, by the Yashar MiCandia (or Canadia) – Reb Yosef Shalom Rofei (lived around 1550) – writes that when the Halacha is already established, we must follow the established Halacha. Otherwise, we listen to the Zohar Hakadosh. When the Zohar Hakadosh says directly to do or not to do something, that for us is not following Sevara. As to how Reb Shimon Bar Yochai was able to say what to do based on Sohd, it says about him, Bechal Besi Ne’eman Hu.
By today, it sort of breaks down to how Sohd oriented you are. Some people ignore any Zohar Hakadosh until some Posek will quote it. Others follow it with a similar approach as the Metzaref Lechachma. Those who relate more to Sohd will follow Sohd as much as possible. This is where the Teffilin on Chol Hamoed comes in. If not for the Zohar Hakadosh, the usual rules of Paskening would have everyone donning Teffilin on Chol Hamoed.
One more thing: Following Sohd is not totally like acting on an Aggadaic, philosophical, Drush, Psychological, sweet or simple reason. Sohd is an understanding of the ‘real’ reason. However, we still always keep in mind that the Mitzvos are much deeper than our understanding. Although all Torah Lishma is real of course, the other explanations are like offshoots of the main trunk, while the Sohd is the trunk. Therefore, those with a true understanding of the Sohd, can be Machria the Halacha toward the Sohd.
November 26, 2010 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145701HaLeiViParticipantThe Gemara doesn’t discuss it. What I was getting at in my unkempt posting was that it is not a matter of ‘Halacha’, only of effective Teffila. In that case, we look to those who know the ins and outs.
This is not the only issue pertaining to Teffila where we find this. The long Teshuva in the Chasam Sofer about the correct Nusach for us (Sefard or Asahkenaz) does not deal with Halacha per se. He only discusses the Tzinoros, the heavenly paths that each tribe has. The Ri Migash writes about adding parts into Teffilos, that it is not a problem, as long as you keep to the rules of Brachos: The end must match the beginning and the Sheim Umalchus etcetera. So there really is no Halachik (Nigla, solid and absolutely required) issue about the Nus’chaos. Therefore, the discussion is on the basis of what is correct to do.
HaLeiViParticipantI had another take on the difference between the two times that Moshe came: The first time, they took his word naturaly, like anyone in a dire situation that grabs onto any hope. Hakadosh Baruch Hu didn’t want our Emuna do be based on something like that. Therefore, he purposely sent Moshe at that time although he knew that it would backfire. This dashed all natural grasping-on-hair hopes. Now, Emuna was something to be learned and acquired. This Pshat can be read into the Pasuk as, and they didn’t listen to Moshe out of short breath and hard work [like last time].
HaLeiViParticipantPeople seem to appreciate it more when you say “It’s not about you, it’s just that my religion…”
Perhaps you might want to say, “It’s not about HATCHOO! you…”
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