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Just one quick story about a short skirt. I was at a Chinese auction. The woman in charge was wearing a skirt that just covered her knees. Barely.
The problem was she was standing on a stage. Those sitting in the first row could see halfway up her thighs. Luckily there were no men there. But it was still not appropriate.
One must be careful to consider where one will be when choosing what to wear. Something that may be okay in one context might not be in another.
Why is this thread so negative? “Tell the girls not to [insert whatever here].”
How about doing something positive? How about having tznius fashion shows? Make tznius clothing look attractive and the girls (and women) will want to wear it. How about ads for tznius clothing in magazines geared to women? If all girls are exposed to is from the secular world, and they have nothing to compare it to, where is the choice?
Dr. Pepper and FrummyMcFrum:
Perhaps I’m being dense from lack of nourishment today, but I don’t understand what your answers to #2 have to do with chutz la’aretz.
Why would it require extra strength to pull someone out of the water, as all bodies are buoyant?
I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing it may have to do with the frum women wearing robes and such when they are swimming. Add the weight of those water-soaked clothes, it may require extra strength.
As I said, I don’t know, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that were the case.
I am so glad I live out of town. But I still don’t understand why Eretz Yisroel is “out of town.”
The people I know who don’t use vinegar also don’t use lemon juice. They use orange juice in their salad dressings.
Do you know what a prutzah is? If people really understood then they wouldn’t toss this word around as if it were nothing.
Thank you SJSinNYC for being the voice of reason in this discussion.
I absolutely disagree. This reminds me of when I was learning triage. The rule there was “do the greatest good for the greatest number.” If accepting one child now means 50 children will lose their education in the future, it isn’t worth it.
Show of hands: How many people who CURRENTLY live in Eretz Yisroel and regularly travel on buses would prefer wi-fi on intercity buses? How many people would prefer an updated fare system?
My hand was raised for the first. The fare system works fine for me. If somebody has proof that the current method poses a safety hazard, please cite the source.
It would be nice to have wi-fi when I’m traveling between cities, which I frequently have to do for work.
. . .and almost into the Pentagon. . . .
Several religious “junkies” hopped on three planes and forced them to be crashed into three thousand of our loved ones.
They actually did crash into the Pentagon. And there were four planes. The only reason the fourth plane didn’t crash somewhere in Washington (presumably the White House or Capitol) was because the passengers fought with the hijackers and crashed the plane in Pennsylvania.
I’m extremely confused.
According to the OP, wi-fi will be offered on intercity buses. The drivers are very rarely collecting fares while driving on those buses. And what that has to do with wi-fi still escapes me.
And while we are on the subject, does anyone have any knowledge of Egged’s safety record? Are we just guessing that fare collecting is a problem, or do we have some information to back it up?
Interesting that some people here don’t think it’s a safety issue. Many years ago (more than I care to admit) I had a friend whose older sister was taking a class at night and had to drive to and from school. There was no such thing as cell phones in those days. Her parents did not like the idea of her being alone at night so they got a CB radio for the car so she could contact them if the car broke down or if anything happened. If nothing else, if gave the parents peace of mind.
Many years ago (not as many as the first story) I was driving home late at night. My car broke down. There were no cell phones in those days either. I was not in the greatest neighborhood, and there were no payphones to be found. Luckily there was a residential hotel and the people were nice enough to let me use their phone otherwise I would have been stranded.
I got my first cell phone several years ago when my father a”h was living with me. If he needed to contact me, I wanted him to be able to. Without a cell phone how would he reach me when I was in the car or at a student’s home? (Don’t say he could have called me at their house. It wouldn’t have been fair to make a man in his 80s have to keep track of my schedule.)
Finally, one day I was in a cell phone store getting my boss’s cell phone repaired. There was a man their (not frum) buying his son a cell phone as a bar mitzvah present. I must admit I thought it was ridiculous for a kid that age to have a cell phone. I thought it was ridiculous until I heard the father say, “Now we’ll be able to talk to each other without your mother’s interference.”
There are many reasons to have cell phones. If you don’t want one, don’t have one. If you don’t want YOUR children to have one, don’t get them one. But please don’t impose your made-up chumrahs on others.
I cringed at the headline but the OP made me shutter.
Did you really? Totally close down? Wow! Quite a reaction. At most, I would have expected a shudder.
First of all, in regards to shidduchim, you have to be comfortable with the person you are marrying. If you aren’t going to be comfortable with a BT, don’t do it. Same thing if you are a BT and you aren’t going to be comfortable with an FFB.
I had an FFB friend (she’s now happily married to another FFB) who told me when she was dating that she would never marry a BT. My response to her was, “Aren’t glad your father didn’t feel that way?”
I’ve googled myself. I was surprised to find so much stuff, but I shouldn’t have been. I have had some stuff (mostly letters to the editor) published, and I have been active in politics. What was interesting, however, was unless I added the elected office I held as part of the search, it didn’t come up.
Is that the only obvious mistake you noticed?
Are you referring to the poor punctuation, the run-on sentence and the misplaced modifier?
And unless the city won’t do something drastic, pple just won’t change…
You’re right. The city should do something drastic . . . remove all the traffic signs and signals. In cities in Europe where they have experimented with the removal of traffic signs and signals, based on the the theories of Hans Monderman, they have found that the rate of accidents are reduced and drivers start behaving better.
When a friend of mine got engaged to a Sefardi she asked our rabbi about having me over on Pesach and he said she should keep one or two pots separate for non-kitniyos.
Yanky55:
I support your decision, no matter what it is.
As someone who is quite experienced in doing a seder by myself, I can tell you from my experience the hardest part is dealing with all the people who either a) pity me, or b) try to make me feel guilty.
I would much rather be alone at a seder that goes at my pace, and follows my minhagim, than to be a seder with other people who give me a hard time for drinking wine instead of grape juice, or for drinking the entire cup, or for eating a full shiur of matzah, or for wanting to wash for urchatz. And yes, these things all really happened, and all in frum homes.
Several years ago, a few days before Pesach, I went out to eat (didn’t want to ruin all my hard work in the kitchen) and ran into a woman I know. While we were discussing our Pesach plans, she mentioned that she was spending it with her parents, and was a bit disappointed.
“I was really looking forward this year to doing it the [edited] way, really suffering. But my mom can’t live without her [don’t remember the brand] cakes.”
I thought she really had the wrong idea there. If Pesach is about suffering, where is the simchas yom tov?
I’ve been to families for sedarim. I’ve done sedarim alone.
I was very fortunate to find a family that does a great seder and once I found them I went to them for every seder.
Now I’m in a new city. And I remember my experiences before I found that family and how many really, really bad sedarim I had to endure. This year I’m doing my seder alone.
The Wally Test
1. Write your name in the square provided. What square?
2. Take two apples from five apples. How many do you have? 2
3. Do they have a Fourth of July in England? Yes
4. If you had only one match and entered a dark room containing an oil lamp, a
newspaper, and some kindling wood, what would you light first? the match
5. A farmer had 17 sheep. All but 9 died. How many did he have left? 9
6. How many animals of each species did Moses take into the Ark? None
7. A plane full of English tourists flies from Holland to Spain. It crashes in France.
Where should the survivors be buried? Nowhere, unless you’re really sadistic.
8. If a redhouse is made of red wood and a whitehouse is made of white wood, what
is a greenhouse made of? glass
9. If Mr. Jones’ peacock laid an egg in Mr. Brown=s garden, who is the rightful
owner of the egg? The National Enquirer! Peacock’s can’t lay eggs.
10. Mrs. Taylor’s bungalow is decorated entirely in pink. Her lamps, wall, carpets,
and ceilings are all pink. What color are her stairs? Depends on how you define bungalow. In some cities bungalows have stairs.
11. If you drive a bus with 42 people on board from Boston to Washington, D.C.,
and drop off 3 people at each of six stops and pick up 4 people at half the stops,
when you arrive at Washington 10 hours later what is the driver’s name? Don’t want to violate the anonymity of the CR. Sorry.
12. Write this down as one number: 15 thousand, 15 hundred and 15. 16,015
13. What do Kermit the frog and Attila the Hun have in common? Their middle name.
14. What do you sit on, sleep on, and brush your teeth with? oomis said “hand” and that’s what I was thinking, too.
15. How many times can you take 3 from 25? I think this is a trick question and it’s after midnight and my brain has already shut down, but I’m going to say 1?
When all else fails, ask. So I did. And here’s the answer I got from my rav:
Of course a Jew should assist another Jew! I don’t remember any commentators saying that a man/woman is patur from the mitzvah aseh of azov tazov!
So I guess that means I get the guy who has good middos AND follows halacha. And volvie gets what?
the guy who “politely states that according to his Rosh Yeshiva, it wouldn’t be proper” is the one I would want as a son or son-in-law.
And I am grateful you are neither my father nor my shadchan. I’ll take the guy with the good middos.
I would be amazed if the halachah was anything other than to help. I’d love for someone to find a source in either case.
Is that the same question as a man not helping a woman who’s drowning? I believe he is called a pious fool.
Tznius doesn’t enter into it. A Jew needs help, so you help him.
Wow. “The New Math.” Haven’t heard that song in years. Really brings me back.
I’m not sure I ever heard “The Menu Song,” but I just listened to it. Not his best work in my opinion.
My favorite will probably always be “The Elements.” But he’s got a lot of good stuff.
Don’t give Volvie a hard time. He has who to rely on. Rambam said women should leave the house only once, or at most twice, a month.
I have a headache, so I may not be thinking too clearly, but isn’t that a straight line along the y-axis?
HIE: Read back a few posts. It looks as if we’re looking for 42.
Not here. We like to keep our afikomen at a reasonable hour. 🙂
from d a: Did kapusta take 35? If not, the.nurse can’t take 36 and areivimzehlazeh can’t take 37!
from kapusta: nurse, just for that, you’ll have to buy your own birthday present. Sorry :-/
It seems to me that kapusta gave a de facto acceptance of 35. Therefore areivimzehlazeh is really 37.
I also say “hello” (or more likely, “shalom”) to everyone I interact with. And I say “thank you.”
I have a couple friends in a different neighborhood, so when I got on the bus to take shalach manos to them I handed a shalach manos package to the bus driver. He didn’t know how to react. Apparently I was the only person who realized he had to work on Purim.
So, yes, Jews being nice to each other apparently is amazing!
And that is the saddest commentary of all.
Haifagirl, so they’re not using “amazing” the way it is defined in the dictionary. It’s become slang for something beautiful.
There are two parts to communication: 1) sending a message and 2) receiving a message. If the message you send is unclear you can’t blame the receiver for not understanding.
Abraham Lincoln once asked some people, “How many legs does a dog have?” Of course they answered, “four.” Then he asked, “What about if we call the tail a leg?” Then they changed their answer to “five.”
He replied, “The dog still has four legs. You can call the tail a leg, but that doesn’t change the facts.”
So you want to use “amazing” to mean “beautiful.” Can I also choose different meanings for words?
amuboolite is a pretty common word.
I used to have one of those! I gave it up. I’m much happier without it. I love Egged!
This sentence took me quite a while to figure out, and I still can’t figure out the last word. Any help? And in terms of the hypothesis, I think it needs to be pretty common words that people will automatically recognize rather than very hard words like these.
The last word was obfuscated.
As to your comment about it needing to be pretty common words, the “study” cited did not say common words (cleaned up):
I’m sorry you don’t think hypothesis or obfuscated are common words. I guess we hang out in different circles.
And further, I can’t believe somebody at Cambridge University would use what when the proper word is which!
love is one of the most beautiful things to see and experience and when people see it they are touched.
Yes, love is beautiful and touching. But is it amazing?
causing great surprise or sudden wonder.
I would hate to violate the CR rules by posting a web site. However, you can Google Ulpan Or.