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  • in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962695
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    Sam: We don’t believe in papal infallacy – thats the other religion.

    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962673
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    Sam: There is a guy in Beit Shemesh who spit on a little girl because his rabbi said it was ok. If you want to be in the company with kooks like that then good for you.

    Why don’t you get some guts and go find out for the rest of us what infinite wisdom R’ Schachter used in paskining against a bais din. We are all waiting your response.

    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962671
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    Sam: I’m not sure what you don’t understand. Less then an hour ago you wrote “I know the case to which you are referring and I have not yet had the guts to ask anyone who was involved at the time how that was Muttar”.

    R’ Schachter has an organization that tries to shame men into giving Gitten, and by your own admission, against halacha. Which part are you having trouble with??

    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962669
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    Sam you don’t need to defend ORA and R’ Schachter because there is no defense!! To shame someone in public against the psak of a bais din is beyond comprehension. And for you to say “I have not yet had the guts to ask anyone who was involved at the time how that was Muttar” and to still defend them is just as unbelievable!! This issue is not about yes bugs or no bugs, this is peoples lives? Are you capable of understanding the gravity of the situation?

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    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962662
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    What the last two posts show is that each situation is unique and needs to be investigated to see who is in the right. The problem is there or organizations such as ORA under the leadership of R’ Schachter that don’t seek to find the truth – rather they push through their feminist agenda that a women alsways deserves a Get when she requests one. There are countless women who have a seruv issued against them – why does R’ Schachter and ORA not demonstrate against them? I would like to hear of the case where ORA found the women to be at fault? Does it make sense that the men are wrong 100% of the time?

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    Doswin you see the problem is not matter what facts you present about how wrong something may be people like Sam have the same answer “but a big posek said it was ok”. Sam if a posek told you to spit on a girl would you do that as well?

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    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962638
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    Sam2: Please enlighten everyone where in Shulchan Aurach it states that!

    in reply to: Would you ever withhold a ??? #962633
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    What I don’t understand is if a Bais Din requires a man to give a Get and he doesn’t – the community is allowed to pressure him into giving one. Where in halacha does someone have the right to publicly embarrass his relatives – which is akin to murder?

    I saw this guy with a hat and beard protesting and I asked him where in Halacha does it state that one can publicly embarrass the family of a man who refuses to give a Get? His answer scared me. “A Gadol said it was allowed”.

    Hashem YiRachem

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