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I appreciate the response i got from zahavasdad.
I have to agree with pba that to an extent, most of our info is anecdotal. We don’t have any sociologists in place conducting interviews & compiling data.
And to ambp, this may be harsh and get my post deleted- but that is THE most ridiculous post i have seen on the CR. Too ridiculous to respond to.
I was curious if y316, who started all of this had any answers for me?
So interesting to her from you, y316. Would you say that you grew up in what we call an “MO” home? More YU than BMG? I find a lot of people try to convince me that more rightwing homes & yeshivas are far more likely to produce kids with OTD issues. Would you agree?
Also interesting to me that you made it sound as if you left more because of the attractions of what was “out there”, than because of digust or discomfort with what you experienced at home & in yeshiva. Is that correct?
What do you think parents can do to keep their kids from leaving to the excitement of what they can find out in the world? Better to shelter them? Expose them? Talk to them? What do you think of all the talk these days about electronic media and keeping kids away from it?
How do you help teens & college kids deal with things you struggled with?
1 cup flour
1 cup sugar
1 cup blueberries
6 eggs
What? 6 eggs? Sorry! Gotta run out to the supermarket…
Hello!
5 — FIVE hours!
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Yekke, that is one tough nafka minah.
I won’t even attempt to answer the question.
LOL
Every creature was endowed with whatever it needs to fulfill its purpose. So if woman’s purpose is to be an ornament, to have children, and to sew, why was she endowed (“Vayiven ess hatzelah”), from the moment of her creation, with bina yiseirah?
Great comment, 42.
Not sure if mods are interested in anyone else’s comment on their comment.
What i’m interested in, #42 is how did you let choppy’s comment through?
A bit overdone, no Choppy? You don’t have to agree with everyone, but sending them off to gehinnom?
coffee addict, in one word, $$$$
I’m so sorry to hear, w or w. I guess you, as the Yiddishe Mamme, will have to do the davening for both of you for now. Hopefully not for too long.
And i have to agree with Sam. Don’t let societal pressure regarding dress codes let you lose sight of your child behind the jeans or tee.
Thanks for the tip, moski. Sounds Great!!
Glad i joined…
Ok, zahahvasdad, i think i got your point. Rav Hutner was freed by military might. Or, as you prefer, Military Might. But which military exactly? Jordanian? So how does that explain the need for the IDF? Au contraire. I think it supports the opposite position. The Istraelis stood by unable to help as the hostages were deep in Jordan. “Harbei Sh’luchim laMakom B”H”. And in this particular case the Israeli army was not chosen to be the shaliach.
Sam2. “Hakol kol Yaakov vehayadayim yedai Eisav.” See what various mefarshim say on that passuk in Bereishis.
Rav Hutner was saved “by the army!!!!” ( exclamation marks yours, rabbiofberlin) ????
The planes were blown up in Jordan and the hostages eventually released.
Please explain: what exactly was the involvement of the IDF?
Write or wrong, you’re still his mother in spite of everything, so follow your heart.
Just a thought- bribing him to go to Yeshiva when he hates going there, probably won’t accomplish much. Ditto for bribing him to get up on time for (even a late) Shachris. Many teenagers have a huge problem with waking up on time; even solid learning bachurim, and even those in the secular world where the issue is a job or school and there is no zman tefillah. Maybe you can try to encourage him to attend minyan for mincha and/ or maariv, and show your appreciation when he goes. I know there is the issue of zman tefillah in the morning, and tefillin, but at this point in your life Shachris may be a losing battle. It may be helpful to ignore what’s impossible and focus on what might bring you AND your son some satisfaction.
You must be kidding!!!
Must have been one Heimishe carnival!
Simcha 613, is it really true that in the army you are “doing less of a service for Klal Yisroel”?
If we agree that earning parnassa can be done bederech hateva, then can we perhaps agree that in the IDF we might be contributing our hishtadlus to saving lives bederech hateva? (Of course we are in agreement that our hishtadlus in both areas is only our human effort, and the direct benefit or yeshua is not in our hands.)
And if we are contributing to saving even one life, isn’t that worth at least as much, I’d like to say far more, than the salary we get for working?
Gotta love that word, geshmack.
Yekke2, now that we’re done with “heimish”, time for you to start a thread on what makes someone really “yeshivish”. Even if you are a yekke.
Wow ZeesKite! Sounds so nice! A whole big happy family of people who drink coffee and post comments on the CR!
Who pays the mortgage & takes out the garbage?
Ha! I notice those of us who are humorously challenged (is there such an expression?) call zichmich when we need a laugh. So I’m not the only one…
Hope zichmich doesn’t feel we’re taking advantage here. Making demands on his time and not contributing.
Sorry, zichmich. My talents, if you can call them that, apparently reside elsewhere. And your posts are always good for at least a smile, if not a full burst of howling laughter!
Interesting question.
Interesting answers.
Seems to me similar to the question those of us not privileged to live in E”Y ask ourselves. To chutznik posters who struggle with the question of army or kollel in theory only-
Do you choose work to earn a living or kollel? And do you feel there are any parallels between your decision and the decision of those who choose between army or kollel? Or are they totally unrelated?
Zabachur, no fine tooth comb necessary; and anyway, i already put mine away for the evening. I couldn’t agree with you more (and your spelling wasn’t bad either). Some of my favorite friends & relatives wear colored shirts. Seriously. The problem with girls dating is that: a) some of them are really young & shallow, and b) shidduchim can be very confusing and it can be very hard to figure out the true nature and hashkafa of a person, so girls may instead focus on the external, less meaningful things that are easy to see at a glance. Personally, i love the look of a fine white shirt l’chovod Shabbos & YT, but shirt color is a poor yardstick when measuring the quality and character of a person.
Gosh shticky guy, i just can’t argue with your reasoning…
Zeliger, no, you should not be concerned. The key word (or phrase) here is, as you wrote, “as prescribed by my doctor.” Ssri’s are commonly used, can be very helpful, and are usually safer and have fewer side efects than other antidepressants. As long as you are under a doctor’s care there’s nothing wrong with taking them, and i would never suggest otherwise. You may need to be patient and wait some time to see results, but you will hopefully find they improve your quality of life. If you are not satisfied with the results, your doctor may eventually change the type of drug or dosage. You should absolutely not stop taking them suddenly.
But there are too many people out there who pop pills that have never been prescribed for them, or in higher doses than have been prescribed for them. They can do real harm to themselves. Those are the people i was addressing.
For the newcomers, does anyone care to post the unforgettable sad sordid saga of Joseph?
And, always runs, i thought my name was actually pretty descriptive, in case you’r trying to picture a poster…
Hi Zeeskite! Yes, i noticed this is the YW CR. I’m new here, and figuring things out. Now you have me confused. As a longtime honorable member, surely you’ve noticed that there appear to be entire threads getting all excited about the use, or misuse, of an apostrophe! So is the YW CR rule: anything goes (as you kindly pointed out) as long as it doesn’t involve puctuation marks?
Nope, ilc, don’t think you’re wrong. We have the letter of the law- the Shulchan Aruch, and the spirit of the law- what some call the 5th volume of the Shulchan Aruch. One might argue that it goes against the spirit of the law.
Getzel, in der hitz, ich gei shvimmen. I wish…
Getzel1, so i come back to the CR, and i see you said in one line what i tried to say in a whole long megillah! Thanks, or in case You are heimish, shkoiach!
Ohr chodesh, you are wrong. A heimishe yid might or might not believe in Daas Torah &/or have a strong mesorah. Shticky there’s nothing sad here, because most people know that heimish doesn’t mean superior or more frum. Heimish people have parents or grandparents who came to America from Eastern Europe (Poland, Hungary, Romania, what used to be Czechoslovakia) after WWII. They still preserve some of the behaviors, minhagim, recipes, and Yiddish vocabulary of their ancestors, but they pick and choose which they like best. As an earlier poster pointed out, they may insist on mitzvah tantz as if it is halacha l’Moshe mi’Sinai, but discard most or all of the chassidishe levush (shtreimels are so uncomfortable in the heat). It’s always interesting to notice at weddings how many heimish mitzvah tantz families, have both parents walk the chosson and kallah to the chupa, instead of the two fathers walking the chosson etc as their heimish grandparents most certainly did. In the sense that we realize that the closer the Dor is to maamad Har Sinai the greater it is, and therefore our ancestors’ minhagim are precious and it is our duty to preserve them, we can say that heimishe people are good people. I find it is a beautiful thing to hear children sing zemiros Friday night that their great-grandparents sang before Churban Europa. On the other hand when we notice that heimish people may cling to their potato kugel and galleh with a tenacity not quite matched by their insistence on maintaining the zeideh’s nusach tefillah or attachment to his sefarim, they might make us laugh, or raise an eyebrow here & there.
Sorry, i love coffee, (btw, i love coffee too), i did not mean for you to take me That seriously. I was not paskening from a Halachic standpoint. I am a trying-to-be observant, Orthodox Jew. (I will have to find time to read up on CR threads to determine whether i am yeshivish or heimish.) I am not an expert in Halacha. Not by a long shot. So when i say something is “assur”, i am speaking based on my own perceived laws of mentshlichkeit, courtesy & consideration to others. It would seem to me that double dating transgresses “Mah d’alach snei, l’chavoroch lo saaveid” & “Veahavta l’reiacha kamocha” but those are very poor transliterations. Sorry again!
SiDi,
Ditto.
Dating more than one?
Assur.
Absolutely.
Too many reasons to list.
Please NO stories about extenuating circumstances.
And by the way, one of the reasons OOT girls may find they have a hard time getting dates, is that the boys know they come in and “serial” date. The boys hate this.
MorahRach, your husband ” where’s colored shirts ” ???
Ouch! That hurt!
Wow! Must be nice to be part of a real kehilla, like in the olden days. Most communities today are so fragmented and divided, it ends up being every man for himself! Pity i don’t see myself crossing the ocean to Gateshead anytime soon.
Hope all of you out there are having a relaxed day. Kudos to choppy for taking control & getting some real help! I was upset to read a poster say casually he/she would just take a Xanax. Bad idea. Don’t play with meds, please!! If you’re under the care of an MD and having prescriptions filled by a reputable pharmacist who talks to you, fine. Otherwise you”ll just make a total mess of your health and your life. In my work as a health care professional i see too much of this to keep quiet when i read a comment like that.
The most expensive no iron are the ones that last the longest & look best, like brooks brothers and other higher end labels. They have to be handled very carefully, remove from wash machine immediately, put in dryer 5 minutes, hang right away carefully.
So the choice is yours- spend a lot of time & money on the shirts, or spend money on the cleaners weekly. On the other hand there’s something about the look of an immaculately pressed white shirt that just says something, no? (Hopefully you think it says something positive, which is what i meant. Not trying to raise the ire of the anti-white shirt brigade!)
Challa will stay just as good if you freeze after baking. If you know you will be freezing challa, bake through first time around, but remove from oven before you have a very dark, well done crust. Seal tightly in plastic bags. When you remove from freezer, shpritz challa with a little water & put into hot oven on heavy duty foil or cookie sheet immediately. Very hot- 400-425 F for short while (10-15 minutes) or medium hot- 325-350 F for longer. Some family members tell me they like it even better than fresh. I prefer lower temp, as at higher temperature you need to keep an eye so you don’t burn the crust. Probably best not to remove challa from freezer and leave it sitting around at room temp.
Hi meidel! Mazel Tov on your recent marriage! To help make your new home a place of shalom bayis, peace & tranquility, why don’t you hang pictures of gedolim that are meaningful to you & your husband? Gedolim with opposing views, as you put it, are likely to have had followers who turned the opposition into something more belligerent & less spiritual than may have been intended originally. Especially now, during the 3 weeks, we should avoid putting our differences & machlokos out there for everyone to see & discuss. Good luck decorating!
Choppy, I”ll accept ideology for weltanschauung, even though the meaning encompasses more than just that, but scahdenfreude is absolutely not glee. Freude is happiness, or glee if you prefer; schadenfreude is something else entirely. Anybody else?
Why are the all the CR insiders ignoring Salad is not Salad etc, while having fun? (How do posters decide whom/ which posts to overlook?) Just to come clean and be truthful- Yup, i had the same question…
Goq, you must be right. And to make up for it, they’re all sleeping late!
Hello zichmich! Thanks!
Glad to hear! Keep us posted, classicalmusic!
sm29, you forgot the first, most basic thing children need- Love. Affection, touch, attachment to at least one primary caregiver, are basic needs for normal psychological development of a child. There have been may studies done on this; the oldest I am aware of was on war orphans in England during the 1940’s. Children cannot thrive, physically, emotionally or cognitively, without love.
Haifagirl, liked your post. Conjured up a great image. Pass that tomato sauce! But I can’t agree about the precision of English. Do you understand many languages? English is no match to some others. For starters- can anyone find me the English equivalent of these German words: “weltanschauung”, and, my favorite, “schadenfreude”?
jr123, you’re kidding, right? Ever been sick?
Question #1: Is it permitted to ask moderator a question?
If Yes, then-
Question #2: Which of the names of spices in Ketores “recipe” means cannabis?
Zichmich, where are you??? This is the thread i visit when i need a pick-me-up!
I see some posters here very easily offended, so to all the rest of you- Thanks to all of you too!
Just trying to get back on track, can we leave the pontifications and recriminations regarding Yiddish for a different thread? Erev Shabbos, and a hot one at that, is a bad time to get all tzuhitzt (pardon the Yiddish) over things!
Putting aside Lashon Kodesh, which is of course in a class of its own; even from a secular standpoint no other language’s grammar can compare to the perfection of Dikduk-
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