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Mods, I think it’s a great idea.
Which might actually lead you to conclude that you should not go ahead with it.
If you follow my posts you may notice that they are most often of the minority opinion variety. Minority bordering on miniscule, I might add.
Postsemgirl +1 from me too
Guess that makes it +2
Looking at a beautiful piece of art can be like music for the soul. Try it once, on a day when you can find a calm moment to look, absorb and enjoy.
And did I see someone say Chocolate!!!
Shocked…
I’m curious what will happen when they try burning dumpsters and calling the police in chutz la’aretz Nazis.
If they are planning to move, their chutz la’aretz brethren might want to help them brush up on their social skills before they board their Delta flights.
Baal Habooze, glad you added that bit. It set the scene for such a nice picture of domestic Erev Shabbos harmony.
Hello mods. How are you today? Taking a bit of a breather? Off in the Caribbean?
Why do I feel like I’m having my CR coffee with a bunch of adolescent yeshiva guys?
Or is that what you meant by yeshivaworld in the first place?…
Breslever, “Just think about that.”-
It doesn’t require much thought. It’s simple math. Yesh Atid got 19 seats. UTJ got 6, maybe 7. Of course Gafni is dying to talk to Lapid. I don’t know what your exclamation marks are so surprised about. Gafni will talk to the pope if it gets him into the coalition, where he can keep an eye on the funding he wants streaming in his direction.
A better question to think about would be: Does Lapid have any desire to speak to Gafni?
WIY, I’m sure your wife wants you to enjoy her appearance and won’t wear sweatshirts if you find them unattractive. What I’m still not able to figure out is, excepting women whose husbands don’t like the way they look in a sweatshirt, why would anyone find it inappropriate clothing for a nice Jewish girl/ young lady/ old lady ?
And if we want to posit that they are not classy / lack chashivus and therefore are assur, what would be the hetter for wearing those favored articles of apparel of denizens of Willy & parts of BP- The Model’s Coat and the Turban ?
I must admit, though, there is a certain weird fascination one must have with people who can pontificate over the permissibility of women wearing sweatshirts, when we have a new (old) prez in the US and await the installation of a new government in EY.
P.S. MorahRach, I was also hoping I was right. But what if you are??
WIY, deja (already) vu (seen).
Deja vu.
You’re welcome.
Yes, Y. W. E., Thank you very much for keeping us informed!
I, for one, noticed the quick coverage. And I’m most likely not the only one.
Oomis, good choice not reading throught the responses. I can summarize for you- mostly the usual CR stuff about Trolls, Trolling, and who may or may not possibly be a troll.
Since you do seem to wish to respond to the OP, I wanted to comment on something you mentioned: “There was NO such thing as last names centuries ago.”
You are right about that. What you surely realize as well is that centuries ago, and even decades ago, it was not common for Jewish women to work in offices and businesses where there was a great deal of interaction with members of the opposite sex. Jewish women stayed home and took care of their home and hearth, as did most women. Before World War I it was not common to find women working, unless they were domestics, midwives, or teachers.
It can be problematic to try to extrapolate from what was common centuries ago to solve problems we face in the 21st century. That’s why it’s always good to find a Rav (or Rebbitzen if you prefer) to talk things over with when important decisions need to be made.
MorahRach, I always look at these type of “girls-shouldn’t-wear-sweatshirts” threads and figure the OP and most of the other posters are clowning around and kidding with us. I feel as if there should be a giant JK in the title. It’s so far fetched to imagine that anybody actually takes themselves seriously enough to decide it’s assur to wear random articles articles of clothing. What’s next? Pink mittens?
You, on the other hand, actually take the OP seriously.
So which one of us is right?
ilovecoff, I take it you asked your question seriously, and are not just looking to play around like some other posters.
As far as I know these products cannot be used on Shabbat. Please find yourself a real life Rav to ask this (and other) question(s). The CR is lots of fun, but while I’m not sure that it’s prohibited to use Chapstick and similar products on Shabbos, I am absolutely positive that it is prohibited to get Halachic guidance from CR posters.
To the eclectic Rebd,
Since it was apparently beneath you to attempt to enlighten me, (perhaps as a woman, better to keep me in the dark, uninformed?) I have found it.
Theurgy- A system of beneficent magic practiced by the Egyptian Platonists and others.
I can see why you’d want to avoid that while taking Challa.
Amazing how the posts here run the gamut from the illiterate to the incomprehensible.
No, he was worried about doing a mitzvah hoping for a “theurgic effect.”
And I’m still waiting for an explanation, lest I fall into the same (supposedly) terible trap.
I do what you call “the wave” exactly as I saw my mother do since I was tiny. Watching it week after week for years slowly makes it creep into the DNA. I suspect it’s the same for many women. But now that it’s my turn, while I can’t give a reason, I can tell you what it means to me. Hadlakas neiros Shabbos is a time for tefillah. As I light each candle I have in mind different people that are close to my heart. Then I gather them all together with my hands before I cover my eyes, so I can be mispallel for all of them.
Rebd, I too want to be sure that I’m not reducing mitzvos to some kind of ritual.
Can you please explain- What is a “theurgic effect”???
Popa, I think you meant to say, “so we Don’t continue…”
And RebD, you can join mine to the requests for a little clarification please, if you truly wish to apologize.
True akuperma, hereditary infertility sounds like an oxymoron or a logical impossibility. But there are in fact inherited syndromes that do decrease fertility in both males and females. I am hardly pretending to be an expert on these problems, and it would seem none of the other posters know much about them either. MomX wisely suggested that the OP speak to her ob gyn or family doctor. I’m not sure why there is so much offense taken at the suggestion that someone educate themselves a little before making a decision regarding a shidduch.
Thanks loca!
Laugh of the day!
To Yehuda Tzvi ben Elisheva-
Refuah Shleima!
Ukguy, your rendition of der rebbes niggun was Fantastic!
Me too.
Artiste, don’t worry about CAD, he’s being ridiculous. You’re not obsessing about whether or not the girl is a size 2; your concern is legitimate.
On the other hand, you just had a really bad idea. “… before I let him propose” ?? First of all, it sounds funny to hear that a grown man, about to embark on building his own home, needs to wait for you to let him propose. You’re his parent, I’m sure he loves & respects you, and there’s nothing wrong with discussing a shidduch proposal before he gets started; once he’s gone out already I would think you can trust him to base his decision to propose on his own intelligence, judgement and feelings. Second of all, when he’s ready to propose, there is already an emotional involvement on his part. This is not a good time to “bring up the subject.” This subject, or any other reservations you may have, can be discussed early on before there’s a chance you’re going to hurt anyone by mixing in.
Once your son is serious enough about someone to want to propose, you can keep your thoughts to yourself. This will be excellent practice for you in becoming a perfect mother-in-law in case the proposal is accepted.
ZahavasD, “Zhid” or a Jewish star on a Russian passport unfortunately proves nothing. The Russian authorities considered someone a Jew based on a Jewish last name, which usually came from the person’s father.
MomX, I haven’t seen you here before.
++1
Perfectly reasonable.
Artiste, I hope you do have that conversation Mom suggested. While it is certainly up to your son to decide how comfortable he is with the information you received, you are probably a better candidate for making inquiries with an ob/gyn. The likelihood your son has a relationship with one is slim. Ditto for the likelihood he”ll have the experience with these matters to know what / how to ask. When you have clear information it will be easier for both of you to work things out.
Wishing you much nachas from your son and, eventually, your daughter-in-law!
The only post that left me with a mild case of shock was the supposed pediatrician who suggested “they should let her sleep in it.” Bad idea in so many different ways! Anyone out there ever heard of parents behaving like that or a pediatrician who would suggest that it’s normal?
Hello again MorahR! “Don’t worry I’m not a monster”!! I, for one, don’t think anybody thought you’re a monster. Just new parents trying to find your way through the maze of sleepless nights and endless, often contradictory advice. Now it’s CIO, in a few years there will IY”H be other issues cropping up leaving you befuddled. Sounds to me like you love and adore your little boy and chances are he knows it already. So you already have the most important part of the recipe simmering deliciously.
Have a restful Shabbos!
And don’t forget to post in 20 years and let us all know how things turned out!
Good luck MorahR! Wishing you many restful hours (sometime in the future), and many happy years with your little guy. I wish I had some good advice for you. I was never able to listen to little ones cry it out. I wouldn’t be as harsh as smartc and call it abusive, as I have heard of other desperate, sleep deprived parents using CIO method, but I’m not sure it’s healthy for you or for your baby. One thing I would tell you, as eventually you may have new little screamers: Don’t let them sleep in your room past 6, max. 10 weeks. It’s so much easier when they’re tiny and you’re nursing to have them right next to you, but once they get used to it, Beware!
Sigh… smartc is right, it’s not easy to be a mother. But I have yet to find one who would give it up for all the money (and sleep) in the world.
DaMoshe has revived an old thread; reading some of the old posts made me curious- Do any of the posters have good news to share after all this time?
I was disappointed that a lot of the posts deal with the old- “my pain is bigger than your pain so don’t complain” routine. No sane person would mock or trivialize the pain of a person who is not blessed with the gift of children. But while admittedly not as tragic, surely we can understand the hurt of those who already have children but cannot have more.
The discussions reminded me of a shiva call I paid a while ago. There were a few siblings mourning the death of a parent who passed away at an advanced age. I couldn’t believe how many people felt obliged to announce that the aveilim needed to be thankful and happy for the many years they had with their parent. Some also had to add how unfortunate they themselves were for losing their own parent at a much younger age. I’m still upset with myself that I couldn’t find the right words to tell them to be quiet and allow the aveilim to mourn their loss; they can be thankful & joyous for their blessings some other time.
May the RBSO help all couples waiting for little blessings, those whose arms are still empty, and those who yearn for more!
MDG, if the subject is a mooser, then that big brown animal with antlers would clearly be a meese, don’t you think?
Haifagirl- Wow! That was an amazing itinerary. I’ve been to Israel many many times, but hardly spent any time at all in Haifa; always wished I could- it seems so beautiful!
I”ll be sure to take your tour guide along next time I go.
Just a question about the very beginning: “Take the #940 to Haifa.” I’m assuming your starting point is the tachana merkazit in Jerusalem, correct?
One dark Nittel night
With Fire I was praying
For the safety of Americans driving in Israel,
For Rebbes riding ponies, neighing
I tried a Chassidish Cheder
And the safety made me gripe
So I went to Touro College
But it just wasn’t my type
Schmendrick stopped posting
Shang chai closed down
So I stole some extra merchandise
It only left me with a frown
I got my haircut in Lakewood, Yeshivish-style
Put on my kippa, left on my date
The Kol Koreh says I gotta go
I mustn’t get there late!
Apushatyid, denied because your father wore a straw hat to the farher?? That sounds so disturbing. I’m sure you did ok, but what disgusting attitudes for a young man to observe! Not to mention your father!
I can’t think of a Yeshiva I know of that would do that. Mind if I ask, was it extreme “Willi – style” chassidish? Or did you live in Israel? I’ve found Israelis have very low tolerance levels for anyone who digresses a millimeter from their perceived “norm.”
Yekke2, your question about starting the night before at nightfall has been addressed. Not by any Shu”t I’m familiar with, but by an old badchan routine. Perhaps you haven’t attended many chassidish weddings’ mitzvah tantz this time of year?
Q. Farvooss on nittel, a goyishe choggeh (as in chag) do we begin the night before, and Peerrim, a Yom Tov bei Yidden, we celebrate the night after (the seuda usually goes on through the night of 15 Adar) ??
A. Veill nittel halt men nuch a Yid- (we celebrate after a Jew), and Purim we celebrate after a goy- (we’re celebrating the hanging of Haman) !!
147, I for one, do not think you & yours are out of the loop. My husband and I also know quite a few older (over 30) singles. I’d say the proportion among our acquaintances is about equal between men & women.
Anyone interested in adding their vote to the discussion?
While there possibly may be a greater number of older single women, there are still a large number of men who have not succeeded in finding their better half as well. I would have to conclude that there is more at play here than simple demographic issues. There is definitely a great need to give the problem some realistic appraisal & study, instead of relying on simplistic solutions that may possibly do more harm than good.
Hey Goq, how’d you know?????
haifagirl, your description of the game was excellent, but really?- “don’t listen to popa?” Why? His game sounded like a lot of fun.
What i wanted to know was- where can i watch a game?
2sents, sniffing is just their way of sizing you up and deciding if you are friend or foe. Not being human, they can’t judge you by the location of the creases in your black hat, the length and style of your sheitel, or the exact coverage provided by your snood.
Or (gasp!) the complete absence of any of the above.
The RBSO has provided them with a superior sense of smell, and that’s what dogs use to get acquainted. If you stay calm and let them do their job, they usually won’t bother you.
Miritchka, I don’t know exactly how many more there are like you, but I’m happy to give you my vote. Love dogs, love animals. But MorahR is absolutely right- “the frum world is inherently petrified of dogs.” Not sure I understand it either, but I’ve seen it many times. And I sometimes see young Jewish mothers pass on that irrational, exaggerated fear to their kids too.
(MorahR, I’d love to meet your dogs, but I know I’m not allowed to ask where they go for a stroll.)
Thanks for sharing, MorahR.
MorahRach, No, this is not the mindset of main stream yeshivish. If anything “main stream yeshivish” will show up on the radar slightly more respectful of their wives than general population.
We live in an interesting world. We can dance gangnam style at chasunas, but Henny Youngman is out of bounds (possibly because his name sounds feminine?). I vote we bring back H Youngman jokes. If we go over the cliff, there isn’t going to be any discretionary spending to argue over. We may as well have something left to laugh at.
Enjoy the sun!
Brace yourself for the onset of comments about: a)cheirem on Spain, b)how dare you, you should travel to the Holy Land etc.
D Bar M- You just got some seriously bad advice from downandin. Really bad!
Please do not ever “consider collecting with your wife and child” (4).
Never take your child(ren) with you. And if that means your wife can’t come along, then leave them in her care and go alone.
This is wrong on so many levels; I will leave it to certified mental health professionals with experience in childhood development to respond with specifics. If none join the discussion here, then perhaps you are acquainted with someone who can discuss this subject with you, or seek guidance from your Rav or Rebbetzin before undertaking such an ill-advised course of action.
I expected a thread about a disease I hadn’t yet heard of; “homidia,” maybe related to chlamydia…
Instead I get a sports section in the heimishe newspaper!
Mods, for the sake of a little clarity around here, can you at least correct egregious spelling errors in thread titles (while allowing us to run rampant with the language in our posts)?
Just when I was starting to get really uncomfortable with the tone of some of these posts, (as I sometimes do, I must admit, but you less than sweet & friendly posters can just tell me, “if you can’t stand the heat…”) along came Syag L and ended his (or her) piece with such a beautiful paragraph.
Thanks Syag!
Sorry Wisey, apparently Not.
Everyone but me appears to be ignoring you.
Don’t take it personally; that’s how the CR is, sometimes.
And I, unofficial CR champion of the underdog & the ignored, wouldn’t have the faintest idea how to help you.
Do you live in the area of Brooklyn/ Boro Park? There’s a linen store on New Utrecht under the train around 58-59 Street that has the most helpful sales people. Patient and will give you all the info you need. And will not try to push expensive or leftover linens on you. Just try to avoid days when they’re crowded & busy. If you show up a Sunday or two before Pesach they won’t have time to look your way.
Frum in the tum, I don’t know how to phrase this delicately, so I guess I”ll just be blunt-
I’m not a guy.
I’m just very careful not to let the eyelash extensions and garish nail color show through in my posts so the mods won’t delete me.
Seriously, what made you assume???