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It’s very sad that the memory of such a great Tzaddik is being degraded, abused and shamed in this way.
I find it appalling.
And hold the ever vigilant Mods responsible for letting that ugly “Ratover…” comment through. You are correct. Edited further.
If anyone in CR Land has real, solid, biographical info on this Rav (I have some info, but not enough for an authoritative post that will do justice and be totally accurate) I would very much appreciate if they’d let us all know exactly who this Tzaddik was.
Ahhh…
Sigh of relief.
Thanks, IChutznik.
I was waiting for a comment like yours.
Let’s not compare the winding, twisty, hilly, steeply sloping, narrow streets of Yerushalayim to the flat streets of Brooklyn, neatly laid out in a grid.
A grid that turned into a chaotic unplowed mess the last time we had a major storm.
BSteak, just because you can spell Minneapolis, doesn’t mean there is such a place.
And DaasY, you’re right about Lakewood, but please don’t forget Monsey and Monroe.
Oomis, you’re very lucky that when you dated the boy your Rebbetzin suggested, he took his yarmulke off. A lot of people with serious problems (religious issues, health issues, emotional issues and others) don’t make such a clear display of them on a first date (or unfortunately sometimes even a tenth date).
A shadchan looking out for the welfare of the person they’re suggesting dates to, should at least try to be informed before they redt the shidduch. A lot of shadchanim will sing the praises of the person they’re redting without knowing any details, just to “make the sale.” They’re so excited to set up a date that they”ll cheerfully go ahead and say whatever they think it takes to get a yes.
If the shadchan is completely open about having almost no info and redting the shidduch solely on the basis of a hunch, while warning the recipient of the suggestion to investigate carefully, then there’s no harm done.
And if Poster would have approached her friend by saying that she was suggesting a boy’s name but had only heard of him in passing and didn’t know the boy or his family at all, she might have saved herself a headache.
Oomis, if you’re referring to something determined according to Halacha, not a minhag, (for instance zman of shkia or tzeis) then that is why what you have observed is acceptable. Sephardim follow the Beis Yosef (or Bet Yosef) in matters of Halacha, and women married to Sephardim do the same.
DaasY, if you only knew what a good cholent I make you wouldn’t hope I’m not your wife.
Oh, sorry, that was a different thread.
Good for you Torah6!
And good for your parents!
And if this thread proves anything at all, it’s that ALL Jews, flaming hot Chassidim, refrigerator cold Litvaks, and those lost under the iceberg of assimilation-
All take their food very very seriously.
Must be something in the Mesorah…
Torah6, just in case you don’t get out in the snow to buy your simmer ring before next Shabbos, the trick to getting the pot clean is not to be in a hurry. I’m not talking about the slovenly homemakers who leave the cholent pot putrefying until Tuesday; just have a little patience. Scrape out as much as you can. Cover bottom of pot with your favorite cleanser. Add boiling water. Ignore overnight. Most, if not all, the goonk will lift right out. A few good strong scrubs with a nice piece of steel wool and some more of your cleanser and your pot is as good as new.
Now if those seminaries popping up like mushrooms after a summer rain would just teach all you young ladies a thing or two, there would be no need for cholent instruction on the CR.
And the good members of the CR could find more time to discuss…
Hmmm…
What exactly were the burning issues here before I got my head stuck in the cholent pot?
Sorry chacha, I see you’re not getting much info here.
I don’t know much about bais yaakov intensive either, but I have to tell you- the name is just so off-puttingly awful to me.
Bais yaakov intensive???
The mental image it conjures up is not a place I’d set foot in.
Can they maybe come up with something a little more user friendly?
Simcha6, when we’re observing Mitzvos, we’re not looking to do what’s meaningful for us, or enjoyable, or logical, or fulfilling. We’re just trying to do the right thing.
Minhagim follow the husband; the exception, as DaasY explained, is in observing women’s mitzvos, where a woman follows her mother’s minhagim.
Hi Miritchka!
You are not being ignored.
I gave you a detailed answer to your question.
Now I’m wondering how cholent instructions could have offended a Mod.
The ways of the mods are mysterious.
And sorry, miritch, but I’m just too lazy to post all over again.
You think maybe the mods like “chulnt” not “cholent”?
If the mods do not have enough time to read the longer posts we will sometimes mod around them -29
MAZEL TOV!
Yes, seuda is usually right after Bris after davening.
Fleishigs- traditional (seudas mitzva etc)
Milchigs- goes over better with the guests in the morning
And try to focus on the beautiful Simcha. Don’t let yourself get stressed when your heart should be full of happiness!
I hear you DaasY.
But I’m giving my vote to Torah6 on this one.
Emphatically, strongly, totally agree with you, Torah613 !
Popa, that’s pease porridge, like oomis told you.
Pease porridge is a goyish substitute for cholent. A poor substitute, I might add. Made with split peas cooked to a slow simmered mush, or some such.
Miritchka, you answered your own question-
Leaving pot of cholent on stovetop on high for 4 hours-
Bad idea!
On stovetop, do not leave on high. Bring ingredients to a slow simmer on a medium flame, then leave on very low flame- just high enough to keep cholent barely at a simmer. It also helps to use the blech from the start, instead of just switching the pot onto a blech before Shabbos.
I understand in your particular situation you had to pour the whole mixture into an empty pot, but if you decide to make stovetop in future-
Start by heating 2-3 tablespoons (canola) oil in pot. Saute chopped onion and fresh garlic in oil (sprinkle with bit of salt and paprika) on slow flame for a while. Then add other ingredients. (A nice “well- marbled” piece of flanken or other meat will keep the cholent from sticking to the pot, but may cause the concoction to stick to the arteries, so I hesitate to recommend.)
Stovetop cholent does have a tendency to stick, but if you follow these directions, it shouldn’t be too much of a mess. And, comments are welcome, but most people do agree the stovetop is better. You just don’t get that real depth of cholent flavor out of a crockpot!
Lipa on Broadway ON CHANUKA.
That would’ve been great.
Pity he couldn’t do the show then.
I could just see the editorializing…
Almost as entertaining as the show.
Or maybe more.
LOL, Popa.
I’m thinking you should consider the profession for yourself.
You can be the first Mekubal to offer those cyber monday deals.
And Tzfas is such a beautiful place to live.
Those views…
Correct, Little Fro,
Once again.
Perhaps you should consider a name change. A Frog is a creature of very limited brain function.
I see there are no Chaim Berliners here.
Looks like they all took the internet ban seriously.
Or the CR is just not worth their time.
Truebt, if you are what your name claims, is it possible there’s a little reverse discrimination going on here? Are you sure you want to lump all FFB husbands and mothers-in-law into one intolerant, intransigent group?
Torah6, I’m confused.
I’m a woman.
I love using my siddur. I’ve been using the same one for years, as I usually daven at home. (Most women I know don’t attend minyanim b’tzibbur on a regular weekday.) But, my attachment to my siddur notwithstanding, I’m not sure how a siddur can be sensitive, or insensitive, to me. My siddur is in every way just about the same as all the siddurim printed in the nusach I daven; it has the same words in it as the one my husband uses.
How can a siddur be sensitive to me?
Care to explain?
Torah6, we’re all sitting here waiting for u to type that last L !
Here – take it and end your post already.
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Thanks, oomis!
I didn’t like the suggestion that a BT and an FFB shouldn’t marry. We have enough phobias and and biases clogging up the shidduch pipeline without adding another one. Especially one that doesn’t make sense (in most instances).
But I couldn’t post my disapproval with the credibility you bring to the table by having (GASP!) actually gone ahead and married a BT. I’m sure the 2 of you have a beautiful home. And hope you continue to enjoy a wonderful marriage for many years to come.
Vogue, “all you guys are doing is bashing me…”?!?
Clearly you can’t be bothered to read your responses.
Turn down the volume for 5 minutes and do us the favor of taking the time to read what we took the time to write.
Vogue, I really feel for you.
What Veltz M explained is true. There’s a lot of dishonesty and masquerading (not just on Purim) in “frum” society. There’s also a lot of emphasis placed on things that are silly and unimportant. The games played in shidduchim can be especially offensive.
It would be a terrible thing if all of this pushes you away from the strides you have taken to keep yourself from going off the derech.
“To thine own self be true.”
If you really are a straightforward person, then don’t feel, as Veltz M told you, that you’re out of luck. If this is who you are then be honest with yourself first. Concentrate on the parts of Yiddishkeit that are truly essential and that resonate in your heart. Focusing on what music you listen to is not one of the fundamentals of Yiddishkeit. Find meaning in serving your Creator to the best of your abilities, in caring for the Neshama within you, and in observing the Mitzvos, such as Shmiras Shabbos, that define you as a Jew. Try to find like-minded friends, and try to find it in your heart to forgive the people who want to box you into their idea of a nice bais yakov mold, and out of true fulfillment in being the good person you are.
Have any of you done a side by side taste test of Chobani, Mehadrin, Norman’s, Greek yogurts?
(Please don’t make me add this to the list of questions-left-hanging-unanswered on the CR. It’s getting too long…)
If you wish to know Yaakov & Eisav were 3
If you want to be a member of SUC
If you’re in the midst of divorcing
Or perhaps Greek yogurt you’re sourcing
Then come troll the CR with me!
Holy b, to answer your question- Yes, this does make sense. But I wish you’d have done some proofreading; your ” % ” showing up in odd places had me confused.
Akuperm, on the other hand is not making much sense. Are you suggesting we wait until the kids are adults to straighten out things between them and their fathers (or mothers, in some cases)?
It’s important to do everything possible to maintain a warm, loving relationship between the children and both of their parents (unless we’re dealing with a psychopath, or other severely disturbed parent), the mother’s anger notwithstanding.
Husbands and wives both play their own ugly, indefensible games in the midst of a divorce- husbands by withholding a get; wives by withholding child custody and/or visitation. Unfortunately, both sides sometimes play the game of poisoning the child’s relationship with the other spouse.
There is definitely a need for intervention by Rabbonim and mental health care professionals to the advantage of both parents and children. The solutions are not simple. And finding them in an online discussion, or even in the pages of our venerable magazines, is highly unlikely.
Thank you for clarifying, Josh.
However, as I mentioned, it would be inappropriate to equate BMG with any other place, no matter how holy, or to equate the BMG community with any people who preceded them. The feeling they project is that they are in a class and category of their own, above all others and above reproach.
The rest of us should take heed.
LAB,
Just a friendly reminder- it’s almost Chanuka. Meaning, Purim can’t be far behind (even in a leap year).
Sincerely hoping you”ll remember what you told Chiyenna…
I know you know your videos are excruciatingly funny. What you may not know is how many of us out here you’ve kept breathing through some incredibly tough times. Deepest, heartfelt thanks!
(As for Justin B, I thought finding a rhyme, any rhyme, for b’tzibbur was amazing!)
The introduction to the video states that Israel has a higher poverty rate than any of the European countries, such as Greece, facing a severe recession.
Can anyone think of a reason why this is so?
Josh31 that was a great comment. Insightful and thought-provoking.
But I’m not sure I’m ready to equate BMG and the Bais HaMikdash.
zen3, I never buy brussels sprouts. I was always sure it would be impossible to check them for bugs. Do you (or anybody else out in the CR) have any idea how to handle brussels sprouts? Your baked sprouts idea sounds delicious and I’d love to try it.
QuestionForY, let me get this straight-
You posted 2 years ago, ruminated on the post for 2 whole years, and then woke up one morning and decided to post a clarification??
I’m not sure why it bothers you to see people connecting to their Creator, but this article might interest you. Tehillim is actually a beautiful form of poetry.
“Our findings suggest that the stress-releasing effect of guided recitation of old poetry can lead to a deep relaxation afterwards,” Dietrich von Bonin of the University of Berne in Switzerland and Dr. Henrik Bettermann of the University of Witten/Herdecke in Germany told Reuters Health in an e-mail interview.
“This effect could be beneficial not only in stress management but also for the prevention of heart disease and other illnesses related to irregular breathing,” they added.
After reciting poetry, the study participants’ heart rates slowed to match their breathing rates in “harmonic interaction,” according to the authors. Further, this effect persisted for up to 15 minutes after the recitation exercises, the investigators report in the International Journal of Cardiology.
No similar effects were observed when the individuals engaged in everyday conversation, the researchers noted.
SOURCE: International Journal of Cardiology 2002;84:77-88.
T613T, I have nothing to add to the serious discussion you started here, and to the numerous posters who took the challenge and weighed in on your question. I did want to tell you that the title of this thread is my absolute favorite ever in the CR.
Do you like writing enough to venture out of the CR?
It would make an amazing title for a new novel, heaped in glossy piles in the window of my local Judaica store.
I can just see it-
“Tzidkaniyos Wearing Leather”
The thrilling new novel by Teesix Genendel Koffrumann.
You won’t make this Chanuka; maybe next year?
Newhus, Congrats on your recent marriage!!
Forgive me for making assumptions, but I’m thinking if you got married, you’re an adult.
If so, you’re not the little boy who went shopping with his mother before Shabbos and chose the candy corn, And the twizzlers, And the marshmallows, And the sour belts. The choices are tougher now. And you might not be able to get every single thing you choose.
In the example you gave us, it seems pretty clear, you can have the smiling, happy wife, or the wife who scrubs and shines your floors.
Pick one.
The choice is yours.
StreeKgeek,
Considering the little exchange we had in a different thread, I find this one so impressive.
Wow! I’m awed. And wish you lots of Hatzlacha!
And just by the way, agreed, Taanis Dibur is probably not the way to go.
My apologies, streekgeek.
Streetgeek, Texting???
Am I missing something here?
Thelittleiknow, your screen name is inaccurate. You seem to know a lot. And thanks for sharing it.
keepitc, “usually the problem is them”?
Wrong.
Haim Sabato is in a class by himself. His books are beautifully written and authentic. So much of modern “Jewish literature”‘seems contrived, and tries, mostly unsuccessfully, to copy themes and plot lines from contemporary authors. Mr Sabato’s style is uniquely his own and introduces you to a world of characters you”ll think about long after you put the book back on the shelf.
jfem, your advice is sensible. But a superficial scroll through this old thread will show you that you’re not dealing with sensible people here. People who leave used tissues on a table inside a shul are obviously not considerate or normal enough to take your good advice.
Pity!
My niece’s neighbor’s friend is a sweet frum bright not yeshivish tzanua girl who is looking to grow and prosper.
Just wondering- can she get into 1 of the top seminaries from the (endless) seminary threads with a BTL???
Goq, Great idea.
Mods? Anybody? How do we set this up?
Apushata, crisis’ comment was not foolish and infantile. It was classic hate speech.
And the Goq is never foolish or infantile.
So you’re wrong on both counts.
a)
Crisisotw, stop trying to be cute, and don’t try to fuddle and muddle your original comment into something less than it was:
an expression of bigotry and mockery.
I disagree with WIY, and prefer that you don’t spout your indecent comments anywhere.
Veshinantam le’vanecha.
This whole thread was worth bumping for shticky guy’s comment.
What if the mother heron was flying home to its nest with freshly chewed baby duckling parts for the baby heron chicks waiting hungrily for their dinner?