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yehudayona “This whole thread is fishy. While Michael Dell did donate land to the Austin Jewish community, there is a Modern Orthodox congregation on campus (with a YCT graduate as rabbi, FWIW). I also find it hard to believe that Dell would go from giving cash bonuses to giving one slice of pizza and some candy. If they decided they couldn’t afford bonuses, they wouldn’t give anything.

One other thing: calling Dell the third largest computer company is using a rather outdated definition of a computer company. It’s apparently based on Gartner’s ranking of “the annual worldwide market share of personal computer vendors includes desktop computers, laptop computers and netbooks, but not tablet computers.”

First off my boss make’s the orthodox shul pay to have space on the JCC campus, where all the other synagogues and temples got their own building on JCC campus for free, second off, U don’t know my boss the way I do, like my boss is very shy for instance, my boss did give all the employees for their annual hoilday bonus one large slice of treif pizza, a can of soda pop, and a few pieces of candy, because he went on the cheap, because the company’s profit’s were down, third off Dell is the third largest computer company in the world.

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Mammele Accepted. But somehow I still doubt you work for Dell.

I work for Dell.

RebYidd23 Why on earth (or otherwise) are you quoting the whole of what anyone else posts before responding?

So that they will know that I am responding back to the comment they made to me.

Mammele Accepted. But somehow I still doubt you work for Dell.

I work for Dell.

yytz It sounds like he’s not really discriminating against you in the sense of treating your poorly, not giving your raises, etc. If that were the case I would simply try to find another job.

In the meantime the best you can do is be a kiddush Hashem. He thinks frum Jews are backwards. But if your attitude and behavior is better than his, then perhaps he will rethink his hostility, and he will be open to taking on more observance (and even perhaps realizing the error of his heterodox ways).

So do a great job, be super respectful to everyone, refrain from expressing any conservative political opinions (which will probably just make him hate you and stereotype frum Jews more), etc. Pray to Hashem in your own words that you can be a kiddush Hashem, and that he changes his attitudes. Hatzlacha!

My boss is a republican, he even gave $250,000 to former Prez George W. Bush’s reelection campaign.

midwesterner So the CEO of the third largest computer company in the world is depriving you of a whole slice of kosher pizza? Big deal! (If your annual bonus is really just a slice of pizza and a can of soda, maybe you should try somewhere else.)

There seems to be some disputes in how to define who is the third largest computer company in the world, after Samsung and Apple. Some say Lenovo, others say Xiaomi. Both are based in China and both have Chinese CEOs.

My boss just gave all the employees a large slice of treif pizza, a can of soda pop, and a few pieces of candy for this year’s holiday bonus, my boss usually gives all the employees money for the annual holiday bonus, but this year my boss decided to go cheap, because company profit’s were down, Dell is the third largest computer company in the world, the CEO is Jewish.

Daniel Q Blog Reb Golem Gorilla (is that what G&G stands for?),

Your added comment that he is a yid and an ‘affiliated’ (perhaps heavily so) yid is a major difference.

Though I have not personally dealt with one in a business setting, they are unfortunately notoriously the hardest because you stand as a representative against who they are (or so they think).

Another important distinction is how long has he been your boss. Did you move into a higher position and now have him as your boss – or switched companies – or this is a long standing problem.

My suggestion (if it is relatively new relationship or gig) is stick to your Torah guns. Find reasonable, healthy parameters for your frumkeit vis-a-vis what food you eat (and how you attain said food), how to fit in mincha into your schedule, how many hours before Shabbos to leave, your Chol HaMoed/Purim/Fast Days schedule etc. Figure out what you are comfortable with (probably good to include your Rav and wife in the brainstorming), and just do it. Keep at it, do your thing, and of course do a great job at your job. Of course, that is easier said then done – but if you have come to the conclusion that you are reasonable (and you are), and you are who you are (and they technically can’t stop you) – then that’s that. Over time, I assume that the tensions will mellow, and perhaps a mutual respect can develop. Reb GG does this, I don’t like it, but what I am supposed to do about it.

Another thing is be aware of your boss’s life. There could be a time that comes up where you can slip in a nice thought or what have you – and it could melt the ice very quickly. In addition things likea fresh box hamentaschen on (or around) Purim, Happy New Years cards on Rosh HaShana etc. might be taken the wrong way, but if done without any sense of frummyness also might over time be a good way to connect.

Hatzlacha,

DQB

Yes, my boss is conservative jewish, and he says to me ” Orthodox Jews are backwards”, besides that when he gave me and all the other employees are annual hoilday bonus, he gave us for it, one large slice of treif pizza, a can of soda pop, and a few pieces of candy, when I and all the other Orthodox Jews requested that he get us a kosher slice of pizza, to accommodate are kashrus need’s, he refused to do so.

RebYidd23 How did he become your boss?

I am a top computer engineer at the third largest computer company in the world.

oomis What on earth is that?

Matzolah is matzo granola.

DaasYochid Do you have $10? You can lease it back for 99 years.

It doesn’t work like that, the 200ft of land for the next 198 years, is my neighbor’s land.

Popa bar Abba: In Israel the problem is that most Jews turned down the opportunity to return when offered, and the Arabs then moved in (we welcomed them as liberators – it was the Romans they expelled). The Arabs have been there for over a millenia (compare that to America where even in downtown Jamestown, Europeans have been living there for barely 400 years). In no other country has a claim of indigenous peoples been taken seriously when the dispossesion occured so far back.

GolemGorilla: akuperma You have a malpractice claim against your lawyer if he didn’t appeal to the next highest court. And as long as you sue (file a lis pendens) you can probably block the other side from selling or mortgaging the property since the person won’t have clear title. From your description of the legal system, it seems you don’t know much about law and have been exploited.

I already had to foot the whole entire courtroom bill because I lost the suit against my neighbor, infact I had to pay my neighbor’s lawyer’s bill too because I lost the suit, that’s besides having to pay the whole entire courtroom bill, I just don’t have the money to pay for another lawyer to sue my lawyer for malpractice.

popa_bar_abba It’s a moshol.

The land is Israel, and the zionists leased it from us by asking the UN.

(And the thread gets interesting)

It’s not a moshol, this really happened to me.

lior You’re saying that you own the land but this other guy leased from the State for $20 land that you legally own? This sounds highly dubious.

It’s a state land ownership law, to me it doesn’t make sense either, it’s kinda like the ridiculous gasoline law in NJ, that u can’t fill up ur own car with gasoline at a gas station, that instead u have to have a gasoline attendant at the gasoline station fill up ur car for u.

dash So who is the fee simple absolute owner?

Unfortunately technically my neighbor is the owner of the 200ft of my backyard for the next 198 years.

the goq If they sold it to him i guess its legal.

It is technically “legal”, the reason he got the 200ft of land thru the land office was because the neighbor across the street was a lawyer and he used her advise on how he could get the 200ft of land, without letting the next door neighbor know about it at all, she told him two ways he could get the land that way, the first way go file a neighborhood petition, which means he would have to convince everyone in the whole entire neighborhood to sign the petition saying he gets to have the 200ft of land, or he could just go down to the land office and pay $10 to get a 99 year lease on the land, he opted for the second way to get the 200ft of land, and paid $20 at the land office to get a 198 year lease on the land.

Rebbe Yid They give good soundbites, and for every one that they serve, you’ve got to swat it back at them. If you miss just one, then all those observing the debate will be influenced by them. Seems awful risky. Might be better to talk to Jews on your own turf, not by playing the missionaries’ game.

Rabbi Singer doesn’t just give good soudbites, he gives emes, I recommend u watch some of Rabbi Singer’s many debates with Jews4JC and the sorts on YT.

Littlle Froggie From what I know, one doesn’t have to be such a baki in Tanach, just an extra measure of common sense. And knowing Mefarshim, Rishonim etc.won’t help a bit, they’re at a different “angle”, they’re not exactly “gores” the Rambam, Rishonim, Chazal etc.

You have to know the best way to size up your fellow and “explain” it to him / her, that carefully or randomly skewed “verses” don’t in and way shape or form refer to that individual. Any normal, sensible, unbiased court of law would trash out all “proofs”…

And then discuss the nature of his birth… (actually those “verses” have now been discontinued.. even they realize how utterly foolish it is..)

Unfortunately Jews4JC is very good at enticing, also they have a slush fund full of cash numbering to the tune of $13,000,000 a year, cause it is part of the Evangelical group which is the largest Christian denomination in the USA, they make up half of all Christians in the USA, the Evangelical group’s goal, and it’s main fundamental tent of their belief is to convert all the Jews to Xianity, so that JC comes a second time.

BarryLS1 I’ve seen a few of his debates a long time ago.

In ur opinion, do u think Rabbi Singer is a very talented counter-missionary?

Popa, but isn’t Rabbi Tovia Singer a Cohen?