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April 12, 2019 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm in reply to: What is behind Rebbitzen’s Threads and Postings #1714042
Mod 29, פסחים (דף סו ע”א): אם אינם נביאים – בני נביאים הם.
April 12, 2019 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1714041ubiquitin -(a) this isn’t really a case of davar yovesh; – where lchatchila one person shouldn’t eat all the ta
aruvos (even if botel); (b) we are not dealing with one person eating all the 61 lbs of meat (at one sitting) – we are talking about returning the “invested” pound of meat, which we (me and neighbour) all admit needs to be returned (but some CR posters like Meno and ubiquiten think I don’t need to return – which is incorrect but I love them!).;April 12, 2019 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1714021Indeed if you drop one basketball into my yard and there are a thousand identical basketballs (of equal value ), and we don’t know which is your ball, I cannot keep ypur basketball and MUST give you one back (only in The Laws of Sodom can I say on each ball – prove to me thsy this one is yours).
April 12, 2019 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1714015Really? This is not a case if “hashivaa aveida” that the owner needs to identify his property. Think about it – if I have a mountain of quarters and you drop your quarter into them, do you lose it – because you can’t identify which exact quarter is yours?! We are all in agreement that obe of these quarters is yours, they are all identical, I am required to give you one.
The same here with the pounds if meat. No shaylah that the neighbor must get back a pound of neat. The issue is if it should be kosher meat or treif meat.
April 12, 2019 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm in reply to: What is behind Rebbitzen’s Threads and Postings #1714013HowI got the idea? Nevuah. Now you know (but don’t tell anyone).
Avram in MD – “laws of kashrus become suspended due to the pikuach nefesh” the laws of kashrus are NOT suspended, rather, you do the “kal” first, to minimize transgressing (just like shabbos pikuach nefesh – you do the least ammount of issurim). So if human flesh is less ossur, that would have priority over more serious forbidden foods.
April 12, 2019 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1713988Meno – “She dropped a piece of meat in your pot, let her take it back.” She wants to take it back (any pound of meat in my pot) but I want to keep all the 61 lbs of kosher meat and give her back trief meat for her dog.
apushatayid – “the dog food is kosher lipesach? is chametz batil bishishim? – It was treif chopped meat purchased for her dog (not chometz, but I loath to say the term “kosher” l’pessach on it).
Toothpick17 – “You owe her the amount she lost. Why would it make a difference if it’s kosher now. You should owe her Treif meat” – she says, and I agree with her, that one of the pounds of meat in my pot IS hers, factually 1/61 of the pot contents is hers, which means I need to give her kosher meat.
Amil Zola –
“1) Why would you be cooking 60lbs of ground meat?” – cooking for seder in Nepal’ high in the Himalayas in the capital city of Kathmandu, over 2,000 guests
2) Why would your neighbor put her meat into your pot – the yenta looked into my pot while holding a pound of treif meat she bought for her dog, and being a klutz, she dropped it in the pot.laskern – “You cannot give the neigjhbor trreif meat as you cannot sell non-kosher meat” – one can give non-kosher meat to someone else, the halacha you probably refer to is that one should not have a business dealing in neveilos and treifos.
Avram in MD – “You should give her 1lb of meat from your pot, and you will still have 60lbs of meat in your pot.” That is what she wants, but why should I give her a lb of KOSHER meat from my pot? She put in treif meat – she should get back treif meat!
iacisrmma – “I am just wondering how someone can have so much mazel: matzah hidden on pesach? Waiter puts finger in soup? Treif meat falling into a pot that just happens to have 60 lbs of kosher chopped meat” –
…and people at kiddush chapping all the kugel and a serial shusher and being mekayem Ad Dlo Yada and learning Daf Yofi and being mesayem and writing a sefer…and sell my house and spend pessach in the sukkah…
I lead an “interesting” life (thank G-d the shadchonim don’t know who I am or my kids would never get a suggestion).
April 12, 2019 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm in reply to: What is behind Rebbitzen’s Threads and Postings #1713978…and I was certain you are a Chabadsker, while pretending to be non-Chabad, yet quoting Baal Hatanya…you know what? We are all frum yidden, and that is what matters.
I noticed on the thread “Why do we seclude ourselves from the world around us?” that someone was trying to fan the flame of pirud by baiting sefardi vs Ashkenazi, which has no shaychus to the thread, but simply to hurt feelings and create pirud among yidden. That is so wrong! THAT is trolling and should be blocked, but the poskim among the mods allow it. Why? I don’t know.
People love to take pot shots at chassidim vs misnagdim, sefard vs ashkenaz, FFB vs BT, Zionist vs Satmar, Telz vs BMG vs Chaim Berlin vs Mir vs Brisk. It is hurtful when they also mock the Rebbes. Rosh Yeshivos, Leaders etc.
‘כולם אהובים כולם ברורים כולם גיבורים כולם קדושים”
April 12, 2019 11:34 am at 11:34 am in reply to: Do I owe my neighbor kosher meat or treif meat? #1713922lasken –
1. “You only have pay the neighbor the price of treif meat” – the neighbour isn’t asking for cash, the neighbour wants a pound of meat returned from this pot, which is now kosher meat.
2. ” a mazik pays מה שהזיק ” – the neighbour was not mazik anything by dropping the treif meat into the kosher meats – everything stayed kosher, but the neighbour’s meat became kosher now, is he entitled to it?Lerntin – “Not sure your psak in the yoreh deah part is correct. It takes a while for that one pound to fall into the pot… while it falls you might have chaticha naasis neveila. Plus one pound of meat is difficult to get mixed in so quickly so it’s be’en… you are mechuyav to remove what’s be’en.”
– the question was one pound of treif chopped meat which mixes immediately into the pot of cooking 60 pounds of kosher chopped meat (which is a huge mixture). But even if it was 60 pieces of meat of kosher meat (e.g. steaks) and one piece of treif meat (steak) – a classic case of ta’aruvos (chaticha na’aseh neveila has no application here), if all the meat is mixed together and the issur cannot be distinguished (it is not b’ein) it is bottel and all 61 steaks or pounds of chopped meat are kosher.
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April 12, 2019 6:49 am at 6:49 am in reply to: Your children weren’t meant to be a korbon Pesach. #1713796Instead of an oven, we use a bar-b-que inside the sukkah (which can be left on for yom tov. The ventilation in a sukkah is better than a tent.
Besides, a sukkah feels so much more yom-tov-dik then a tent which is so weekday-ish.
iacisrmma – I will explain because you are unfamiliar with this area of Yoreh Deah. You keep bringing up the concept of cooking – bishul (probably from O.Ch. Hilchos Shabbos), which is unnecessary to make something ossur.
Heat (sometimes plus liquid, but not necessarily) is how flavours are transfered – which makes something ossur.
Therefore if you have a yad soledes bo coffee with milk in it and a piece of meat falls into the coffee – it becomes ossur, because the heated coffee absorbs the flavour of the meat (even if you remove the meat from the coffee).
Likewise if you have a bowl of warm yad soldes chicken soup (even keli shilishi, revi’ie, chamishi etc) and a some cheese fell into the chicken soup, it is ossur because the soup absorbs the flavour of the cheese (even if the cheese is immediately removed from the soup),
The concept of keli rishon, sheini, shlishi is a law in cooking: bishul, to acheive COOKING (like on shabbos, or to make wine mevushal, or to kasher utensils etc.
To transfer flavours of meat/milk or issur you don’t need to cook the ingredients together, the heat of yad soledes bo (110 degrees) is all ittakes to transfer the flavour.
Yoreh Deah is an area that rabbonim are more familiar with then balei batim (who know more of Orach CHaim halochos), so best get guidance in these halochos from a rov with semicha yora yora.
I have a proof that a living thing is polet/boleah – namely, a living animal/person will expell his issor and prohibit something else:
The knife of shchita, in Chulin 8b the gemara discusses that the knife needs kashering because it absorbed from the aminal during the shchita. Then the gemara questions, wouldn’t the knife anyway be ossur because it absorbed the hot blood which is ever min ha’CHAI (the living animal makes the knife ossur)!
This is a clear proof that a living animal would make ossur a hot soup by entering it – likewise, the waiter’s finger…
Maybe I should only eat eggs and cheese.
ubiquitin – indeed the Chasam Sofer begins with the Pri Megadem that a living thing is not boleah (or polet),…BUT then the Chasam Sofer concludes that a living thing IS polet and boleah – bringing proof both from the chicken that flew into the butter and the proof that his student R’ boruch found in a Rosh from the mouse that fell in a beer barrel ( עבודה זרה דף סח ע”ב) .
So that actually makes the question stronger: Does the waiter’s finger in the soup make the soup ossur???
iacisrmma – your comment about kli shaini or kli shlishi regarding bishul has no relevance yo ta’aruvos issur v’hetter. If a piece of non-kosher food fell into your hot soup, even if the soup was a “keli asiri”, the soup becomes ossur. The soup does not need to “cook” the issur (as per din bishul b’shabbos), it merely needs the transfer of flavor via heat and liquid (per din ta’aruvos and bassar v’chalav).
April 12, 2019 12:45 am at 12:45 am in reply to: Why do we seclude ourselves from the world around us? #1713721In the words of Billam (Numbers 23:9):
הֶן עָם לְבָדָד יִשְׁכֹּן וּבַגּוֹיִם לֹא יִתְחַשָּׁב.
THE PEOPLE SHALL DWELL ALONE
That is the definition of a Jew.There is a real company in Vicksburg called Troll Meds and that is what they sell. Really! Google it.
My husband שאול thinks there might be some people that would think it is disrespectful to him to call the sefer (מבטן שאול (שועתי שמעת, I can’t imagine why, but any voters?
The soup was bubbling hot and Hatzola treated the waiter for 4th degree burns (there is no pain with fourth-degree burns because damage to the nerves prevents any feeling) – definitely yad soledes according to most machmir shita.
Besides, Reb Moshe holds that yad soledes is slightly higher than normal body temperature of 99 degrees – not very hot at all! See Igrot Moshe Orach Chaim 4:74 bishul 103 that a temperature of 110 °F (43 °C) must be considered yad soledet bo as a matter of practice, he noted that definitive yad soledet bo might be as high as 160 °F (71 °C), and we go lechumra on either temperature.
ubiquitin – water used to boil live lobster be kosher – Yes if it remained alive. please provide a source so I can check.
Would the water be ossur if the lobster dies while it’s claw is being boiled vs water muttar if lobster dies shortly after it was removed from the water after its claw was boiled? (In our case, if waiter dies while his limb is boiled in soup – then soup is ossur, but if waiter dies from severe burns shortly after he is hospitalized, then the soup is muttar?
April 11, 2019 8:38 pm at 8:38 pm in reply to: Your children weren’t meant to be a korbon Pesach. #1713706A simple solution to the “pessach Crisis” – sell your entire house for pessach and build your sukkah in the backyard or driveway!
Live in a sukkah for the yom tov!
A few appliances like fridge and stove and a working sink in the corner and you are good to go! No stress! Ho hassel!
Forget hotels! This will be family time bonding. It’s like camping out!
Remember, sukkos was “supposed” to be in Nisson, but was pushed off till fall season.
Let’s get the hammer and nails and start building our sukkah.
“debate and entertain even off the wall”. my debates are most entertaining when I am off my meds or maybe when I am on my meds – not for me to decide.
April 11, 2019 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm in reply to: Are you really Frummer than others or are you Crum? #1713557iacisrmma – ” just like I dont dress like them I dont think like them on this issue.”
I was taken aback by your comment.
Haman (and every goy) says “yeshno am echad mefuzar u’meforod”, even goyim know that we are all one nation, we may be spread out and have differences but all recognize that we are one. Yet you say “them and us”.
Ture, yidden sometimes behave badly, but does that allow us to be “poresh min hatzibur”?
It is ok to say “ein dayosayhem shovos”, no two people think alike. Indeed Chazal say, just as their faces are not alike, so too their dayos are not alike.
But I am taken aback when you base your comment on their levush, which is their yiddish custom,. The comment seems in line with “lochem v’lo lo” (it is them but not me).
Are you saying that if live creature has an attached limb cooked in a soup – is not “polet” any “taam”?!
Any source for this?
Regarding human flesh, Yoreh Deah 79:1: Human flesh is prohibited by the Torah (as per Rambam, Hil Maacholos HaAsuros 2:3,Rema), but there are some who maintain that human flesh is not prohibited by the Torah (seeרמב”ן על ויקרא י״א:ג׳:א׳, Ra’avad, Rashba, and Rosh (5:19) agree with the Ramban) .
DY – “Human beings aren’t actually a b’heima t’meia. If the issur is kavod hameis,..”. so are you saying in a case of pikuach nefesh, one is better off eating human meat than a treif chicken?!
Jokes aside, the food at this fine dining place has a real human touch, but is the soup still kosher?
April 11, 2019 11:07 am at 11:07 am in reply to: Are you really Frummer than others or are you Crum? #1713459Joseph, Is it comforting to say “Over 90% vaccinate”?
1. Where is this statistic from?
2. Who qualifies as “chassidim”? Many Litvish Yeshoivos have large numbers of chassidic boys.
3. Is it not possible that the vast majority of “chassidim” have 100% compliance, while certain specific groups “the problem chassidim” have a near ZERO compliance?
4. 10% non-compliance is huge! It would mean that statistically, EVERY single classroom of 20-30 students has 2-3 un-vaxxed students! Every simcha of 150 – 250 people has 15-25 un-vaxxed attendants! At a wedding, each table of 10 has one person sitting at your table! Every minyan, store, bakery, resturant..has people that could spread the disease. Yidden don’t live on farms with very little social contact – we interact and our lives intermingle.
.ZionGate, the OP might have thought that “of course you first visit Kosel before you visit rebbe”, but what we think is often not what the Torah thinks, as I cited seforim about visiting kever of rebbe before kever of parents.
I actually get a thrill when I see how my “mind set” ( הסמ”ע (חו”מ ג,יג), דעת בעלי בתים היא היפך מדעת תורה. ) was not in sync with what halacha states. Even the simple egg which I think has no “issues” in halacha, becomes a minefield of halachic complexities worthy of discussion and debate.
Sometimes the simplest question are the most difficult to answer correctly (especially when we approach them with pre-conceived ideas). It is so much easier to brush them off by saying the OP is trolling or when frustrated that one cannot come up with a clear explanation, to proclaim that the Op is twisting and distorting halacha.
I opened a ffew topics that ask the simple questions that have no simple answers (e.g. Are women m’chuyov in Ad Dlo Yada on Purim, Why Aren’t Eggs Fleishig, If Moshiach Arrives Today – Will The Geula Be Delayed Till After We Do Bedikas Chometz At Night…). There is enough such material to fill a sefer.
Boruch M – if a rebbe get more kovod than a sefer Torah, why are you allowed to let a rebbe go into a washroom but you must not let a sefer Torah enter a washroom? (Now I am trolling).
מִבֶּ֧טֶן שְׁא֛וֹל is from Yona 2:3
ויאמר קראתי מצרה לי אל ה’ ויענני מבטן שאול שועתי שמעת קוליZionGate – I don’t follow your logic, A Noda B’Yehuda was mentioned. I provided the citation for it and added that it is contrary to Mogen Avrohom and all other poskim. I also wondered what that N.B. has to do with the OP question and the conversation. Am I missing something (I did remember to take my meds) or are you missing something?
April 11, 2019 12:20 am at 12:20 am in reply to: Your children weren’t meant to be a korbon Pesach. #1713225iacisrmma, are you certain your rov told you “Only rooms that you know had chametz brought into them need to be cleaned”?
Is it possible he told you, “Rooms that you are certain you did not bring in chometz – do not need to be cleanned”, maybe that is what the rov said? There is a huge difference!
In any event the accepted halacha is we also do bedika in such rooms, as stated at http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46447&st=&pgnum=115&hilite=
“All places that are used throughout the year that there is a possability that chometz was brought into them, require bdika. FN1. And even places that one is certain that chometz was never eaten there, still require bedika, because we are concerned that he entered these places while eating with chometz in hand and he forgot the chometz there.FN2”
FN 1 – S.A s. 431.ss.3 etc.
FN2 – Rav S,A. ss. 13, Kaf Hachayim ss. 25.Also you wrote, “If you never move your stove or refrigerator you dont have to move them to clean for pesach (as I heard from the poseik).”
I am certain you have a reliable possek, but maybe you misunderstood him, because that is not the accepted halacha as stated in
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46447&st=&pgnum=135&hilite=“A fridge, if it isn’t too much of a bother to move it from its place and check below it, one should do a bedika there on eve of 14 by candle as normal, but since it is difficult to do so much all on eve of 14, it is enough to clean the area beneath them well, preferably one should do so several days before pessach, by moving them from their place and cleaning there, and before returning to their place, to do a bedika at night by candle.” (Clearly the fridge must be moved, but no need to do so on eve of 14, it can be done prior, both to clean it and then to do a bedika under fridge).
I only write this so that other readers shouldn’t follow the halachos you posted without consulting a reliable possek.
April 10, 2019 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm in reply to: In the Purim Spirit: Women are required to Ad dlo yada 😂🤣😂🤣 #1713203Who holds that the melacha of planting on shabbos requires “Planting has to create roots “? ?? You wrote that “Planting has to create roots but many hold that it happens right away.”, so is there ANYONE that holds you are not oiver on planting on shabbos until it grows roots???
Is the French National Anthem considered a Lubavitcher niggun?
Thoughts on including husband’s name שאול in Sefer’s name
מִבֶּ֧טֶן שְׁא֛וֹלLaskern – you know the Mogen Avrohom s. 301, s’k 7 and s. 554 s”k 12 rules that there IS a mitzva to visit rebbe/tzaddik on yom tov, as do the overwhelming majority of poskim. The Noda B’Yehdah (Tanina, O.Ch. s. 940 is a lone opinion, and difficult to understand – especially that he does not mention the Mogen Avraham at all.
In any event, “ma shmita aitzel har Sinai”, I don’t understand the connection between your comment and the discussion of this thread Subject: “Who to visit first Rebbe or kosel” Are you trying to switch subjects?
laskern, an egg is porous, it is polet and bole’ayah. If the egg would be an eagle’s egg (ossor), the other2 eggs and the pot would be ossur. If there would be meat in the pot, the egg would have a din of meat.
Mods, what you all thought is a joke or a trolling issue, is clarifying everyday complex halachos about the simple egg, – which Wolf had with cheese this morning.
Is learning mussar (and in case you are Chabad – learning Chassidus) and following the teachings of mussar (or chassidus) – is that basics or is that אל תצדק הרבה?
Are the 613 basics? If so, one of them is “קדש עצמך במותר לך” – קדושים תהיו ? What do you consider basics?
#2 if obe egg is treif, the other two eggs would be ossur
lasjern, pls explain what you are answering.
laskern – ” If you mean what you said that we must have higher standards than the gemora and rishonim…אל תצדק הרבה don’t make yourself more religious.”
Seriously, how do you reconcile this with the concept of perishus elucidated by Sefer Mesilas Yesorim:
“והנה כלל הפרישות הוא מה שאמרו זכרונם לברכה, “קדש עצמך במותר לך” וזאת היא הוראתה של המילה עצמה, פרישות, רוצה לומר להיות פורש ומרחיק עצמו מן הדבר, והיינו שאוסר על עצמו דבר היתר, והכונה בזה לשלא יפגע באיסור עצמו, והעניין שכל דבר שיוכל להיולד ממנו גרמת רע, אף על פי שעכשיו אינו גורם לו, וכל שכן שאיננו רע ממש ירחק ויפרוש ממנו”.The standard required: והיינו שאוסר על עצמו דבר היתר, how does that fit with just keeping the bare halacha and no more?
Gerufa u’tmuna can be accomplished by any covering of the fire and he’ker – in past tin was used because it was cheap and easy to use, but any material (for safety – fireproof and heat conducting) can be used.
BTW – A layer of aluminium foil would not be “kosher” for a blech because it would be bottel to the oven (unless several layers are used).
I posted earlier that there is a strong reason to first visit the Rebbe (based on seforim cited), but I need to qualify that response: It applies if visiting for a bakosha (- which is most common and nearly anything qualifies as a bakosha).
However, if visiting strictly to give kovod (as a form of Ola Regel), then Kovod Shamayim would certainly come first because both the talmid/chosid and the Rebbe/tzadik are michuyav in kovod Shamayim.
Three serious questions:
1. I understand we are not choshesh of having a blood spot, but what if one DOES find an blood spot in one of eggs, are the other 2 eggs ossur and same, does the pot now need kashering? (if one is not maykil to rely on hetter that nowadays the blood spot is not real in cases of hefsed etc)
2. Explain please what you mean by “not a taam issue” – doesn’t the treif egg give out taam into water and into other eggs and into pot? (The shell is porous and the taam travels thru it)
3. Based on “Yisroel kedoshim heim”, why are yidden only concerned to prevent a d’oraysa by doing 2:1 bittul, and not concerned about drobonon to do 60:1? (Alternativly, is there an inyan to be machmir to boil eggs inbatches of 60:1?)Honest question. I know treif needs 60 (even though min hatorah 2:1 suffices), so if there is a real concern of a treif egg – especially if one is later discovered, ALL the eggs plus the pot would be treif unless there was a ratio of 60:1 kosher.
(Indeed some have the custom to use a special pot to boil eggs out of kashrus concer…not sure how that plays out practically if a treif is found).
The logic of first visiting the tzaddik is so that he can daven for you and be melamed zchus for you so that your tefilos at the kosel will be later accepted.
This logic is found in Sh”T Dvoray Emes s. 13, that one should first go to keveri tzaddikimbefore visiting kever of his parents because the tzaddikim will add zchusim to him in Gan Eden HaElyon, so that when he later visits his parent’s kever, he comes in a holier state.
The Sh”T Mishne Sochir (Y.D. 2, s. 238) writes the contrary, that one should first visit his father’s kever before his rebbe’s kever because by bakoshos of rachamim, the father has greater rachamim on his son then the rebbe.
This logic may apply too, that visiting the rebbe for bakoshas rachamim on his chosid/student may preceed before visiting the kosel for bakoshas rachamim.
(After considering the fact that HKBH is our Father (“bni b’chori Yisroel”), and a Rebbe is also a father to his student/chassid – still the wordly connection of a Rebbe-student is more apparent)
Then please explain why 2-1 is enough to nullify a treif egg?
Isn’t the requirement 60-1 to nullify?
(this, assuming an egg can be nullified, even though it seems to be a dovor sh’b’minyan which cannot be nullified)
Hope it wasn’t Green Eggs and Cheese, said Sam I am.
But if you let me be, I will try them, you will see.
Boiling three eggs at a time isn’t fun, for me to score bittul, I need 60-1.
“It has to be someone [or a cabal: ca·bal /kəˈbäl,kəˈbal/noun a secret political clique or faction] who is relatively learned [ah, the theory of relativity applied], probably went to yeshiva [or seminary], and yet uses that knowledge exclusively for trolling [unless he day job is a Rosh Kollel].” Brilliant.
Ah,a, so you “rely” on the rov, but there is room to be machmir and be “choshesh l’mi’uta” (worry about the minority that exist that are treif). – I stress as a chumra, which is what my point was all along.
laskern – eggs are sold by the dozen, דבר שבמנין לא בטל ברוב
Your heroics are commendable. You are a case study for Rabbonim to decipher. A complex Yid. .
I need a name for the sefer – a collection all my chiddushim, novel ideas and new approaches to solving issues. All the good names were used already. Open to thoughts? I am sure it will be a best seller.
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