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That sefer was called Svoras HaBeten (boich sevoros).
No problemo, Little Tzfardaya, “That word, at least to me, sounded a bit coarse, vulgar, something not edel.” –
Would you have also objected if a male used the sceenname “Moshe Pupik” or let’s say “Rabbi Golden Pupik”?/?
“what makes you so sure RGP isn’t actually Joseph?”
Maybe Mrs Joseph!
And RGP’s husband’s name is Shaul,
Could Joseph’s name be Shau?
Their last name: Golden, or
Goldenberg.
or
Goldenbergerer,..
or
maybe Miriam..Goldstein…Comedy: The debate on how Chabad holds about Zionism. 25 voices, 45 replies. LOL
Why is it so funny?
Because many threads have these people and their buddies calling Chabad “kofrim”, going against the 13 ikrim, not keeping halacha (sleep in sukkah, eat cake before davening), comparing Chabad to MO or even Notzrim…yet, these people must know the shitah of Chabad about Zionism. Why would it matter what a “kofer” thinks about Zionism????
Would it matter one way or the other what Reform holds about Zionism? (“Who would care to discuss: Are they pro or anti and why the change”)?
On the one hand, many consider Chabad as not part of Klal Yisroel, assume that is a position that a frum yid is allowed to have because he has a hetter for sinas yisroel, yet, he needs to know their shitah and get into a pilpul about their shitah!
Is that not totally comical?! LOL
The debate: RGP vs RG.
The P doe NOT represent “pick a nicer name”, but the original “puppick”Assumption? Let’s break it down. Screen name has three parts: (1) Rebbetzin – that’s ok; (2) Golden – that’s ok; (3) Puppick – that’s a problem, pick a nicer name.
ויהי שם לגוי מלמד שהיו ישראל מצויינים שם – “they were “goyim” there, this teaches us that those Jews were Tziyonim.”.
There are also fake Chabad in the coffee room engaging in low key missionary activity….watch out. The most gullible are recent BTs but others have fallen for this scam as well.
The Bible Unauthorized by A.H.Moose ends with “The End, T.G.” (presumably: Thank G-d as in Boruch Hashem Lolom Amen vAmen).
The original screen name was “Rebbitzen Golden Puppick”.
A mod decided that “pupick” (yiddish for gizzard) is not a nice name, hence the direction “pick a nicer screenname”.
Which begs the question: Was the edit due to the use of puppick in the context of a female, hence a tznius issue or was it the general reference to gizzard/stomach?
In other words, would a screen name like “Moshe Pipick” be allowed or would it also be censored?
Enquiring minds need to know.
Gadol – WHenn a yid does a mitzvah assay, he get a reward (s’char), when a Yid commits a lo saasay, he gets punished.
Helping yidden do mitzos assay only earns them rewards. If they didn’t do the assay, what’s the downside? They would get the s’char!
The real accomplishment is to prevent yidden from committing lo saasay, which is like rebelling against HKBH. That would accomplish so much more – saving yidden from sinning! Preventing onesh of Gehenim!
Imagine a mtzvamobile stopping yidden from eating treif! Stopping chilul shabbos! THAT would be FANTASTIC!
I like Chabad and they do wonderful things, but they could use some finetuning. I would be happy to offer my guidance which they sorely need.
RGP is on meds for multiple personalities.
The thread o “World Domination” got nuked after a lived short existence.
It exposed the actions of Chabad in its trajectory to dominate the world.
Probably ruffled some Chabad feathers.
Neville, so now that my membership at Chabad is expiring this month, you think I should renew it? There are many things they do that I don’t understand or agree with. Like I just discovered that after they stay up for Shavuos, they go to sleep before they daven shachris. (besides that going to sleep before shachris negates the entire purpose of staying up, it is also a serious halacha problem). I also don’t agree with many other things like having people put on tefillin in the middle of street near dog poop and ervah (of immodestly dressed women). Plus as I noted the lack of proper respect for many great Gedolim. On the other hand, there is much to admire about them, so the jury is out. It is not an insult to me to be called a Chabadsker, there are worse names (just don’t call me a Brisker!).
Neville – “it seems like Chabad’s views on Zionism are relatively in-line with the Litvish views”; “On this issue, Chabad sees eye to eye with the Yeshivish world.”
Moving away from theory and philosophy to practical:
There were fierce battles between Chabad and the “Yeshiva Party” representative in the Knesset (taking direction from our Gedolim, in particular, Rav Shach zl but also Rav Ovadia Yosef and other gedolim).
The issue came out in returning Land for Peace. Chabad view of “not one inch” especially since “Hashem gifted the Land in a miraculous way, we must not squander this gift”, which is a Religious Zionist/Nationalist view, while our Gedolim held there is no problem to return Land to avoid pikuach nefesh (and saving one soldier’s life that would be r”l lost in a battle is an olom malleh).
Chabad held that the Peace with Egypt is worthless, just a piece of paper, which the next ruler does not need to recognize, while giving up the Sinai is real and a huge loss (military and financial – oil fields etc). Our Gedolim held it is a worthwhile risk and strongly supported the Peace Treaty
Chabad tried to recruit poskim to strengthen their “daas Torah”, but the prevailing psak of Gedolei Eretz Yisroel was upheld. Isreal returned the Sinai to Egypt and signed a peace treaty with Sadat. We still benefit today from this Peace Treaty (based on Land for Peace).
History proved Chabad wrong on that issue. (Except that their shitah would apply to Gaza, but that was not the Halachic debate at the time).
too geshmak, do you apply such justifications to let’s say…kashrus?
Kids are surrounded by so many temptations of treif food outlets, better allow them to eat things that are only osssur m’drabbonon (chicken with milk) to avoid them eating a cheeseburger.
Let’s say…shabbos:
Kids get bored on shabbos, better that they play with muktza than use things that are melochos min haTorah.
Is that a cheshbon? If it isn’t for food, why is it a cheshbon for other areas of yiddishkeit?!The conspiracy deepens. Intrigue, mystery, drama, and dark comedy.
Muller report mentions Rabbi Berel Lazar, the Chabad Chief Rabbi (in a footnote) but we all know Chabad was behind it all. After all Lazar controls Putin while Trump is controlled by Shemtov, the Chabad Rabbi in Washington. They both have beards…see the connection! They are trying for world domination while infiltrating the Coffeeroom with Undercover Agent “Rebbitzen G” to recruit support for their agenda.
Neville figured it out. It’s all Chabad. They are everywhere. In 2020 they are placing the Rebbe as a Presidential candidate. Chabad Houses in each state are fully mobilized to conquer America. Rebbitzen G will be Chief of Staff. An Executive Order will be issued that all males must grow beards.
Genius.
I waa not talking HISTORY or founding if Conservative. My post was the origins of the Conservative “rabbinate” allowance to drive on shabbos. The “hetter” was exclusive to America and originally only for the purpose of driving to shul. The point is how lowering standards detoriate to total neglect of Torah values.
Snag Lachochma, in your own words “the funniest part is that he thought he could convince people he wasn’t a Chabadnik”. Putting aside your OCD about chabad (they are everywhere and control the world – every conversation leads to chabad), aside from that, you do imply that there were funny parts, by writing “the funniest part” is mashma that other parts were also funny but not as funny as the funniest. Yet now you complain of “too much litzones for comfort” – did you become uncomfortable? This too must somehow lead to chabad…maybe comfort has the same Gematriah as chabad. ..
Chill pill. The oleh said borchu which allowed you to sanctify Hashem’s name. He then made a brocha to which you were enabled to answered amen. Chazal say Godol ha’ona amen yoser me’hamevorech (your amen is greater than his brocha – but you were enabled by h uhh s brocha). Then because he made the brocha, you heard words of Torah. ..does the Oleh not deserve a great big yasher koach?! Look how much he did for you!
After reaching a state of anivus, I try to help everyone else become humble too.
Honestly, did I not say many times that I am publishing my sefer? I even had a thread about it! I was searching for a name :MiBeten Shaul” was suggested. Why the shock and surprise? With lots of money and tons of brains, everything is possible. Even in the world of trolls and goblins, I can be a leprechaun.
ZG, guess you never heard of דברי תורה משמחים את הלב, שנ’ תהלים יט פקודי ה’ ישרים משמחי לב, that is true simcha! (Hence, the halacha that one cannot learn as an Ovel or on Tisha B’Av – yet an Ovel may sing zemiros – ut that is from the Halacha part of Torah, which you never appreciated, and I don’t know a zemer that makes this point).
Too bad you denigrate Torah by saying compared to zemiros, Torah is c”v “butel u’mvutal k’afrah de’arah”, (like dust on the earth! mods – you allowed that?!), Nebech on you!!
אשרינו מה טוב חלקנו, ומה נעים גורלנו, ומה יפה ירושתנו
אשרינו מה טוב חלקנו that we are Yidden.
ומה נעים גורלנו that we are frum Yidden,
ומה יפה ירושתנו, that we are bnei Torah which is our Morosha K’hilas Yaakov.טַעֲמוּ וּרְאוּ כִּי טוֹב ה, taste it and you will see that iTorah is good and sweet.
There was this yid that was brought up with beautiful zemiros every shabbos, when he grew older, he completely left yiddishkeit, but still each and every shabbos he would drive to the chassidic shteibel to listen to his beloved zemiros. If only he would have had Torah to keep him pure.
syag, instead of me saying that I am thick skinned (a painted victim), would you be better pleased to know that I am Teflon coated (non-stick).
ZG, all fine and dandy for MEN, but women can’t join when there are orchim, so other than a sideline spectator, zemeros are not a participating activity for me, while divrei Torah remain an open season, to indulge, participate and wallow in delight.
syag – I left out a few names of my Gedolim:
HaGaon Rav Hershel Schachter shlita – I vigorously defended his kovod when someone posted demeaning words about him, qualifying him as a mere mashgiach on kashrus,
Also the great Tzaddik the former Satmer Rebbe Reb Yolish ztzl – I lambasted the poster that mocked him for making puns of Torah words.
These are gedolinm that I posted about and stood up for their kovod when someone dared mess with it.
And there are others.
Eli Y – you have introduced a new concept, “The Torah Troll”! Can we extend it to seforim, like a Trolling Sefer? (I am publishing a sefer as I posted several times: “M’Beten Shaul” (a possuk in Yona). The publisher didn’t like M’Puppik Shaul.
Everyone, buy the sefer!! Mention my name and YWN to get a 10% discount!
KY (Kiryas Yoel?) – Rav Hutner ztzl did not “encourage” boys (as they force boys in other yeshivos) to shave. Those that had beards he would sometimes fondly comment an expression from Zohar about beards.
I don’t know the facts but I would venture to say “he was learning at the Shabbos table” by himself, rather than sharing the beauty of his Torah with his son.
But in truth, history repeats itself.
Like the Sar HaTorah, Rav Shach ztzl, also Moshe Rabbeinu did not have sons that were learners. He taught the Torah to Ahron’s sons and THEY ere the ones that had the appreciation for it.
The GRA was against it. Talmidei HaGRA do not say it at all. It creates a hefsek in listening to the uninterrupted bracha. With the brochas that we hear we are yotzeh various things (like making 100 brochas a day). BTW, even Sefardim do not say BH uBSH when they hear someone make a brocha shehakol or mezonos on food, which does not follow their shitah! (As per Shulchan Aruch OC 124:5 they SHOULD say it!)
Let’s think this through. Suppose I paid for the advertiz=sing, now I am getting bonus publicity for the sefer…would that be uber-trolling or smart uber-business?
CA – no, it’s about ברכה הצלחה וברוך שפטרני