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As to #3, you seem to care, so I ask YOU, “why do you care?”
eddieParticipantI would recommend asking HIM about #2.
eddieParticipantI am just wondering why you are so worried about his middos, that you have to comment on a public forum?
eddieParticipantAAQ: I am not going to discuss your formula, as I fundamentally disagree with your premise as to how the full tuition amount is calculated.
As far as the tax receipt goes, that is a question for a tax attorney. As a layman, I would have serious doubts as to its legality, but I would be happy to to be told by someone knowledgeable that I am wrong, and it is perfectly above board. If that would be the case, Then I would agree with you 100% and please issue the requested receipt.eddieParticipantChaim87: We are in total agreement as to Govt programs.
Dr. Pepper: Please understand. As I said in one of my earlier posts, much of the costs of running the school remain the same no matter how many children are in the school. Once te classroom is opened, the costs are pretty much the same whether there are 5 children or 30 children. That being said, if a school has upwards of 1000 students, the income goes up at a much more rapid rate than the costs of running the school. All schools that I dealt with had under 250 students in total. Even with your 1000 students, if it is a far right school, I highly doubt that even if everyone paid full tuition, it would cover the budget.
As such, (even though Chaim87 would disagree, we can agree to disagree) my scholarship is not coming out of your pocket, you belong paying that figure anyway as it is not covering “your” portion of the budget. and since there is in most instances not dollar amount of total scholarships available, I am not taking away from your scholarship.eddieParticipantDr. Pepper: With all due respect to you, your calculation will not work. by average, if you were to calculate tuitions using your formula, a parent would have to pay approx. $40,000 per child. In most center-to-right wing schools this amount is not on the drawing board. So, I agree that if the school asks for $50,000 and someone actually pays it, they can request a charity receipt for the $10,000 difference. (Whether or not this is legal, I don’t know. You would have to ask an accountant or tax lawyer, of which I am neither).
AAQ: The ones who pay more are only subsidizing the ones who pay less if the ones who pay more are paying more than it costs to educate their own child. I don’t believe this is true in 99.9999% of cases. This is because full tuition is not made by taking the budget and dividing it by the number of students (see above) It is a number that the school feels that their clientele should be able to pay, for the most part. Of course, as we see by this thread, that point is subject to debate (that the parents should be able to pay that amount.)eddieParticipantChaim87: Just two points.
1) There is no such thing in most Yeshivos that says that if it costs 10K to educate a child, and I give one parent a scholarshp of 3K someone else has to cover the shortfall and pay 13K. It just doesn’t happen. The reality is that there is no expectation that tuitions will cover the budget. It is not even on the executive director/Board/governing body’s Channukah wish list. There is a tuition amount that is made up either by figuring out how much you can expect the average parent to pay, and work from there, or using a number that positively the most you can expect ANYONE of your parent body to pay, and let the parents fight their way down from there. But in either case there is no max scholarships that can be given out in total.2) With regard to Chasdei Lev and such programs, if you are going to hold that against parents and count it as income, then dont do the rabbeim any favors, all you are doing is giving them a way to have to pay more in tuitions. It is no longer a chessed/show of hakaras hatov.
Before you say that I am just someone who is a naysayer, just doesnt understand the problems that exist, I work for a Yeshiva, am grossly underpaid, did not send my daughters to seminary in Israel, and am paying almost $30,000 in tuitions. (I get no free tuitions, not even in the school that I work).
I do understand the problem, but not everything works by simple math.( see point #!- there is nothing on the other side of the equal sign).eddieParticipantI would just like to say that in Democrat NY State, the rule is to get SNAP benefits, all adults must work 20 hrs per week, even students. The only ones who don’t have to, is the primary caregiver of young children, which would be one parent. Even in the general public, the idea of the dad being the primary caregiver is becoming much more common. This is true even if all the children are in daycare.
May 7, 2023 7:56 am at 7:56 am in reply to: A Chief Rabbi Attends the Coronation in a Church? #2187727eddieParticipantInstead of all of this, why not call up the office of the chief rabbi of England and ask ? All of this bashing is irrelevant to any parties involved, and pure speculation as to his reasons for going. (Unless, of course, someone here is shooting for the position of the next Chief Rabbi of England, and is concerned about what to do if he is asked to attend an official ceremony in the church)
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