That’s funny, Lilmod – but I can see how our screen names can look similar… Now I have to check out Golfer’s posts to see if they indeed are a similar style.

If you were confused by my post here – I moved to Israel pretty recently, so that may not have jived with whatever profile you have of me. 😉

Joseph, that observation may be accurate at the men’s side, but I’ve never seen more chareidim than other populations at the Kosel at the women’s side. It is beautiful to see how all types of Jews from every type of background, ethnicity, etc. come together to pray to their G-d at the Kosel.

I hereby nominate Charlie Hall.

every person still needs to do their hishtadlus (part) in life & “a person cannot-just sit back & (not work or go tot the dr. if sick)-depend on miracles

Well, MA, learning Chovos Halevavos when one should be going to the doctor is relying on miracles.

(It is a beautiful sefer, but not a cure for depression!)

Avi K, I’d just like to point out the irony in your post:

…Why are you generalizing?

Of course, I was accused of intolerance,as is the way with leftists

I found it pretty funny.

I think Shopping613’s idea was a good one. You may enjoy Rinat Tzipporah’s program very much. I can’t give any links, but try googling it.

Your rav is yeshivish?

Do you think yeshivish only means not talking to guys, dressing modestly, and not watching movies or TV?

It is a whole lifestyle, based on an entire philosophy and derech.

(Hey, chassidish people generally don’t do those things you said you don’t do. So technically you’re chassidish too now, no?)

Uh, Sparkly, didn’t you say in at least 3 threads that you are MO?

Are you sure you are ready to get married?

Marriage is <b>not</b> something that is a solution for “I’m at an impasse in my life, so why not get married?”

Sparkly – I know that, that’s why I said that Pninim probably wouldn’t be a good fit for you age-wise (even though you would probably enjoy the classes).

The girls I know from Midreshet Rachel are all smart girls who have graduated from college or are deep in middle of their college degree. My friends who went there are all in their early to mid twenties.

Sorry, I am a frum girl and I am not desperate to get married. In fact, I have said no to many shidduchim the past few years since I don’t want to get married yet.

That is a big overgeneralization.

Lilmod, I think Pninim is only geared for post high school girls.

I am sorry you are feeling so much pain, but your post has a narcissistic tone to it, as do many of your others.

I only have one suggestion for you. And that is, look into yourself when hearing of such tragedies. Not into others.

Sparkly, that is totally and utterly subjective.

It is the equivalent of me telling you, “Sparkly, pharmacy ISN’T a good job.”

You can say that you personally think teaching isn’t a good job. But blanket statements like that, especially without backing, show a lack of open mindedness. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but opinions are not facts.

Lol, Syag, I think it was inspired by a different thread that was started a few minutes before this one.

Sorry Toi, I don’t remember if I did or didn’t. I do remember being pleasantly surprised at how fast everything was working – I had filters before that really slowed things down. I suggest you contact Webchaver directly and ask them that, they have helpful, fast support there.

Sparkly, I have no idea what kind of MO you are.

The only thing I know in relation to you and MO that you seem to think that MO is “less” frum than chareidi, and that their halachic shittos are less legitimate. I don’t think that my path is less frum than chareidi, and for me, I am more frum with this approach than I would be if I was chareidi. The reason I chose this path was not to “get away with things”, but to have a truly authentic Judaism that resonates with me and enhances my avodas Hashem.

Right wing Modern Orthodox.

I do come from a BY (Bais Yaakov) background, and appearance wise look like a BY graduate. I’m talking hashkafa here.

Web chaver, and they have a cloud filter. I don’t think I had to download anything when I had it, and it didn’t slow down my computer or internet, unlike other filters I tried.

What do you mean by frum?

Larger yarmulka, more chumras, a connection with Hashem, more chitzoniyus, more pnimiyus?

MA- “if you are truly trying to be pure & righteous then you will be fortunate to find your zivug on your first date you try otherwise it can take much longer THAT CHOICE IS UP TO YOU.”

Source?

To answer the OP, I think that the concept of having a “bashert”, with which many people mean a perfect fit where they will always be gloriously happy and loving, is illusionary and can lead to dangerous imaginary thinking.

I don’t know if there is a concept of the one and only “bashert”, but what the word bashert has come to mean, no, I don’t think so at all. And I think it distracts some people from investing the hard work it takes to make a marriage successful, because “We just argued – what does this mean? What if he’s not my bashert?” The whole concept of bashert is ridiculously romanticized imvho.

Are you okay now?

Joseph, I don’t know which MO and chassidish people you hang around with, but the ones I interact with have slightly different ranges.

I was once by a chassidish family’s house – quite ‘with it’ people, not hardcore chassidish, and the mother was sighing sadly about her single nephew. “It’s heartbreaking!” were her exact words to describe his single status. I was thinking about her nephew, and pictured him as a 28 year old boy whose classmates were all married. Then she said, “How can he be twenty and still single? He has a heart of gold!” I was quite flabbergasted – talk about culture shock! When I asked, they told me that the boys in his class started getting engaged at 18, and now he was one of the last ones left.

Based on other experiences, I do think that many chassidish people would start considering young adults “older” at 21. But it’s different in every circle, and if a girl is 20 but almost everyone in her grade is married, and some had already gotten engaged in 12th grade, then she would be considered “old” as well.

As far as MO, most MO people I know are just starting to get married at 26, which means that it is hardly considered ‘old’.

In case my quotation marks haven’t implied as much, I find this whole concept of 20 somethings being considered old ridiculous, but whatever.

You can join online forums where your target audience hangs out, join in the conversations and become a liked member, and mention your websites where helpful and appropriate. This takes time to build up though.

You can also try getting picked up with someone big on social media who has a similar audience by following them, commenting, sharing their content, emailing them to tell them how much you appreciate their work, and then once you build a connection, introducing them to your websites which they might feature.

You can also try a promotion exchange – connect with similar websites where the people you want to come to your website are looking, and do a blog tour.

Hillary is not an ideal candidate by a long shot. She is not a saint and I don’t love all her views.

But yes, she is qualified, has experience, and is not a dangerously unstable person like Trump who has not a shred of diplomacy or political experience.

I can write an entire discourse on my reasoning and back it up with facts and analysis. Yet honestly I am thoroughly sick of this entire election and therefore will probably not engage in this thread any longer. I was just bothered by the OP putting frum in quotes and mocking people’s religiosity based on voting choices.

zehu.

They are allowed to, technically, but it’s terrible genetically. Inbreeding can cause many genetic problems.