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Give Me a BreakMember
Doc:
Who said I would read your comment?
Give Me a BreakMemberThere’s already a thread about this, written by the great and holy Joseph:
Y.W. Editor, can you merge this with the above stated thread?
Give Me a BreakMemberItzik_s:
“BS”D
No. Source: From the fact that Noach was only permitted to kill animals because he spent many sleepless nights over the welfare of the animals, so they were indebted to him.
Sorry but this is completely krum. Where in the world did you get this from? A quote out of context from a medrash? You know full well that we do not pasken or hold according to anything remotely related to this.”
See Rabbeinu Bachaye, Parshas Acharei Mos.
havesomeseichel:
“Food for thought:
If you are worried about the animals being tortured during shechita, think about what the goyim do to their meat! We make sure that the knife is sharp enough so it cuts easier ect while they might hack it a few times (sorry for being graphic).
Furthermore, one of the “most humane butchers” in America is the shechita house in St. Louis…
(Sorry about my title- I didnt realize the pun when I wrote it… Just noticed it now when rereading my post before I sent it in…)”
I never said that gentiles CAN eat meat!
Give Me a BreakMemberAlso, how does $1,200 cover the costs of a kid?
Give Me a BreakMemberPlease give me some examples of what you mean by “flipped.”
Give Me a BreakMemberlammed hey:
“Note to moderator:
About time.”
Time for WHAT?
Give Me a BreakMemberBumblebees, genus Bombus, have also been hit.
Give Me a BreakMemberdovix1985:
You’re crazy. If they’re paid, they have no right not to host him. I’ve never been to the Grand Hyatt in New York, but I’ve been in the D.C. one.
Give Me a BreakMemberanon for this:
Pro-choice generally means the right to abort, not the right to give birth, which is inherent.
Give Me a BreakMemberFeif Un:
And gentiles are not held responsible for things other than the Seven Noachide laws, and if abortion isn’t murder, then there isn’t anything else assur for them which abortion falls into.
Give Me a BreakMemberintellegent:
“anon for this,
Firstly, please explain how we can use skins of animals for Mitzvos without torturing and/or killing them? Are we to look through the forests and find animal corpses with salvagable skins on them? Or maybe “Give me a break” will tell as that there are some shitos that allow human skins to be used?”
Without torturing them, not necessarily without killing them. Now you understand? And no, I’ve never heard of a shita that allows human skins to be used, but I’ve never heard of anyone that says you CAN’T use human skins. So there you have it.
Itzik_s:
“If you truly believe what you say, you belong in Cheirem.
BS”D
Not cheirem, Chelm. “
Why?
“BS”D
I have explained why the Korban Pesach was allowed – we took good care of the animals,
so they owed us their lives.
Source? Medrash Shtussim Rabim perhaps? I would mention what letter goes before tzaddik in the siman that you need to look up in said sefer but this is a G-rated site. “
No. Source: From the fact that Noach was only permitted to kill animals because he spent many sleepless nights over the welfare of the animals, so they were indebted to him. Very few slaughter animals today are in any way indebted to us, and, if anything, we are indebted to them because of the horrendous torture we put them through from birth to death.
Give Me a BreakMembermariner:
I know, but as they say in Gemara, it’s a docheik lashon.
Give Me a BreakMemberJoseph:
I would.
Give Me a BreakMemberJewess:
I have explained why the Korban Pesach was allowed – we took good care of the animals, so they owed us their lives.
Too bad you can’t part with your animal products.
Give Me a BreakMemberHow about if we start this up again?
Give Me a BreakMember“Physical discipline” in Yeshivos? Don’t you mean “Child Abuse in Yeshivos?”
Give Me a BreakMemberintellegent:
Where in the Torah are we “encouraged” to eat meat?
Give Me a BreakMembermdlevine:
But how does that prove the CHIYUV of tznius?
Give Me a BreakMemberIs that the latest?
Give Me a BreakMemberhavesomeseichel:
Care to vote for me on the “Should pro-freikeit commentors be given a voice?” thread? I’d appreciate it.
Give Me a BreakMemberSJSinNYC:
What’s your Rabbi’s name? Dr. _____?
I’m not about to trust a rabbi who I don’t even know over the most prominent scientists. Sorry.
Give Me a BreakMemberanon for this:
I realize that, but the tone of the ad implied a pro-choice agenda.
Give Me a BreakMemberhavesomeseichel:
“3. Is your comment that it is not murder according to halacha or your emotions? Besides, Obama wants 3rd trimester babies to be aborted and it has been noted that when the child somehow is not killed and lives (is BORN)- they are thrown away to die.Left alone, without food, water, incubators, or a caring hand. Not given the proper care they need to live, when they could live just like the thousands that are born prematurely every year… Now, is that not murder?”
My comment is based on my emotions, as I do not use the halacha as a reference guide for the whole country. But yeah, 3rd trimester abortions ARE murder. But so far it’s illegal.
“2. A mother who does not want to raise their own child- something is wrong….”
That is false. Besides, in these cases the woman is not really interested in child-rearing – it’s just the byproduct of something she IS interested in. And are YOU basing that on your emotions?
Oh, I forgot – you’re still unmarried.
Give Me a BreakMemberInternet vs. Yiddishkeit? I’ll take Internet.
September 22, 2008 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm in reply to: Should pro-freikeit commentors be given a voice? #626056Give Me a BreakMemberPashuteh Yid:
Give Me a BreakMemberHere’s a personal story – last night, my neighbor had an opossum in his yard. One of the kids did something that shocked me. As we were watching the opossum in the garbage can (that’s where it was stuck), one of the neighbor’s kids came over to us. He says, “I called 311 and they said they’re sending someone over soon.” Okay, good enough. But then he did a most disgusting act – he took a second garbage can and placed it inside the first, essentially crushing the poor creature. Is this how our kids are brought up? (The boy in question was a Chassidishe Jew.) Total apathy for another creature.
To make a long story short, a friend of ours, who believes in animal rights (but doesn’t throw things on people who eat meat and wear fur), came to the rescue. But she requuired that all the kids back off (because they were noisy as heck) so that the opossum shouldn’t freak out. Not one kid moved. Even after she got the opossum out, kids were making jokes like “Let’s give it a cat to keep it company” and ridiculous nonsense. When our friend asked the kids if they heard the babies crying, one boy piped up “Yeah, I hear them.” Of course he didn’t.
Sick.
Give Me a BreakMemberSarah:
I know, but it’d be nice if we could get back on topic.
Give Me a BreakMemberWhy?
Give Me a BreakMemberhavesomeseichel:
“How can you be a frum Jew (and I am making an asumption there that you are both) and belive in abortion? It is MURDER and is against halacha!!”
First trimester abortions are NOT murder. Besides, you’re a woman. Don’t you ssympathize with other women who don’t wish to carry a baby to term and through life?
{I’m NOT a woman.}
Give Me a BreakMemberJust don’t eat too much!
Give Me a BreakMemberintellegent:
I didn’t say it’s not true. I’m just interested in ascertaining the source.
Give Me a BreakMemberintellegent:
You really didn’t read my comment. I said quite clearly that the animals of those times owed their lives to people, which is CERTAINLY not the case today. “Do you think that Hashem CH”V does not have the strength to tell us not to do something that He’d prefer we don’t???” Sure he does, but don’t forget, we are ALLOWED to.
Why do I belong in cheirem?
Give Me a BreakMemberGood point. But although I have the “audacity” to look on Britannica.com for a picture of Sarah Palin, YWN should post a picture of Palin for all the “tzaddikim tehorim” who won’t veer away from the kosher YWN.
If the ad is for an organization that is hoping to stop abortions, why is the ad “PRO-CHOICE means THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE?”
Give Me a BreakMemberThe pro-choice ad’s back on – I suggest you take a good look.
Give Me a BreakMemberJust to clarify: “Apis mellifera” is the scientific name for the honeybee – “apis” means bee, “melli-” means honey, and “-fer-” means to produce. Thus, “Apis mellifera” – “honey-making bee.”
Give Me a BreakMember000646:
Thank you for the defense. But I think it’s hopeless to argue with “mariner.” Don’t forget that you’re a “kofer” too.
Give Me a BreakMemberJoseph:
Yes, thank God I still have a vivid imagination.
Give Me a BreakMember“Doe anyone know when raisin Challah is supposed to be used?
Is it Rosh hashanah? Simchas Torah? Purim?
Any clues?”
Whenever you want, I guess.
shindy:
If you leave the bees alone they won’t sting. Also, bees aren’t flies – they eat nectar, not leftovers.
Give Me a BreakMember“Is 3 Cups of Coffee a Day Too Much?”
Yes.
Give Me a BreakMemberHill of Beans:
Zionism is dead? Since when? Among the “yeshivishe velt?”
Give Me a BreakMember000646:
Maybe the sun really DOES go around the Earth, and the telescopes at NASA are all wrong?
Just kidding. I am a “believer” in neo-Darwinism as well as a lover of animals.
Give Me a BreakMemberWhere does tznius come from? Who says?
Give Me a BreakMember“Why Yidden are the BEST!”
I dunno, why?
September 21, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm in reply to: Mochel Loch… time to forgive and be forgiven! #1184850Give Me a BreakMemberI don’t know who you are, so I’ll say this: Mochul loch.
Give Me a BreakMemberYou people are veering SERIOUSLY off topic.
Give Me a BreakMemberWhoa! Don’t go crazy! And you don’t have to publicize it.
September 21, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm in reply to: Is it the correct thing to have takanos for weddings? #623096Give Me a BreakMemberAnswer to your title – no.
September 21, 2008 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm in reply to: Should pro-freikeit commentors be given a voice? #626054Give Me a BreakMemberWhy aren’t I getting any votes to include me on this wonderful list?
Give Me a BreakMemberMutar.
Give Me a BreakMemberI read the AP article. It would be in your best interest to remove it.
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