Geordie613

CTL, I’m sure you must’ve seen or been made aware of the cover story in last week’s Hamodia /Inyan magazine about the Shapiro family in New Haven. I have started reading it, and thought of you. Considering that, as far as we know, this may be your family, so without giving anything away; do you know this family? Have you got any nice stories about them?

Ohel Moshe is is still at 100-102 Leeside Crescent, although it is ka”h much bigger today than it was in 2013. Rav Stern is still the Rov, and if you need his phone number I could get hold of it for you.

agutyar, A Gut Yahr! (love the name:))
Don’t miss the point. No one says there were Palestinian. Before 1948, Jews in Eretz Yisrael were known as Palestinian. Arabs were South Syrians, or TransJordanian. Nevertheless, they were living there before the Old Yishuv arrived back from Europe.
No one here is arguing these points. We all agree. What we need to remember is where our right to live in Eretz Yisrael stems from. And that is our loyalty to the Torah.

You have to take his words in context, and I think he’s 100% right. According to YWN these are the two statements:
“The first important thing is that the State of Israel be a Jewish state, otherwise we have no right to conduct negotiations with the Palestinians – they were here before us, we removed them from here”
“If we do not have the historical right that the Jewish people have here, we have no rights.”
The explanation is, That the arabs were living in the area for hundreds of years. Even though they were nomads or wild tribes, they were physically in the area. What then gives us a right to settle the land, in many cases, removing arabs from their villages and towns?
The only right we have to the country is as a Jewish nation. We receive that right in the Torah. Therefore, we have to build it up as a Jewish country. Read into that, that we must keep the things that makes us unique as Jews. Shabbos, Kashrus, Sanctity of marriage according to halacha.
If not, what right do we have here more than the arabs? If the Torah gave us the right to be here, we have to respect it, or lose that right.

chabadgal, Come in January, there will not be a heatwave.

Hello friends.
BH Geordie613 is doing well.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1292942/watch-dramatic-rescue-fire-london-kosher-supermarket.html This building was managed by my old company in London before the company closed and I moved to Manchester.
RabbiofCrawley, of course I know Dayan Krausz and many of his sons and sons in law. He is not a Rt Hon, which is a title reserved for Her Majesty’s Privy Councillors (LB, you’ll have to google that, too complicated to explain). However, I would use Herr Rabbiner for him. He doesn’t walk too well nowadays, but I often see him at Mincha in Ohel Torah.

LB, and everyone else. I have explained this before, but No idea where. I use Geordie as I was born within Newcastle upon Tyne. Geordie is a term for the locals in that area of the North East of England. Not all Geordies are very poor, although any self respecting Geordie will be working class. I an of course slightly different as I am a Geordie613. (If Bobov can do it, so can Geordies!)
In the previous iteration of the YWN CR, we had subtitles. After 5 years I was finally awarded the title, ‘Malach of the North’. A quick google search of Angel of the North, will reveal a huge monstrosity, which stands at the Southernmost point of Gateshead, which lechol hade’os is just outside the Geordie area, looking south. It is one of the iconic symbols of the local councils of Gateshead and Newcastle, together with the Tyne Bridge.

LB, you may hear my accent in my words. It probably sounds like London, the accent is known as ‘Received Pronunciation’. Anyone who follows these forums will know that I was brought up in South Africa, and moved over 20 years ago. However, a geordie accent is very very different, and probably sounds like a foreign language to outsiders. In fact it developed from the Vikings who arrived and settled those parts many years ago.
I do imagine anyone else talking in the NY accent, with their ‘erbs and what not. Although Rabbi of Crawley probably talks in Cockney Rhyming slang common in Sarf Lundin.

We call them Ladybirds. Even though they are neither lady nor bird. Similar to pineapple, which is neither pine nor apple.

I have a consulate story:
When I was in the Mirrer Yeshiva, I needed my UK passport to be renewed. The UK has two consulates in Yerushalayim, one in Talpiyot to serve ‘West Jerusalem’ and one in Sheikh Jarrah to serve ‘East Jerusalem’. Of course the nearer one for me was Sheikh Jarrah. It was in 1997, so generally safe to go into the arab part of Yerushalayim.
I took a taxi from Shmuel Hanavi where it would be a 10 minute ride. The driver was shocked that this haredi wanted to go to Sheikh Jarrah, but laughed when I told him why. The UK has to maintain two consulates in Yerushalayim because of the status they hold the city to be. But the point of it is not so that Jews can go to the ‘arab’ consulate if it happens to be more convenient for them. I imagined that the embassy staff would be British and greet me with tea and scones. But, the staff there were arab and not impressed with my appearance, and clearly wanted me out of there quickly. Luckily, they sent my renewed passport out to me by post.

Does the US have two consulates in Jerusalem?

Don’t think of ‘Life is not fair’. ‘Life is unfair’ and it is not expected to be fair. The sooner we get that and live with it as a fact the better our lives will be in dealing with it.
In this world there are no answers, in the next world there will be no questions.

I’m finding this thread highly interesting for a foreigner. CTL, in my CR experience, has never become so emotional and forceful. It is obviously a big deal to him. When Trump won the election, I thought he won’t last out the 4 years. Let’s see what happens. My take is, how could the whole United States of America come up with two so unworthy (to use a kind expression) candidates in the 2016 election?!
Btw, chochom,
“I sincerely apologize for my egregious spelling mistake on Neil gorsuch’s name. בלי נדר it will never happen again.”
טובל ושרץ בידו. Gorsuch gets a capital G. Actually, so should Chochom.

Yes, I am, thank you very much.
We could hear the emergency vehicles in the distance last night. But didn’t hear what happened until morning. Terrible. We pass that way when we (occasionally) go shopping in town on the tram.

I was listening to a shiur by Rav Fischel Schachter who said among other things; In chutz La’aretz we have two days Yom tov. In EY they have Lag B’Omer instead. Until relatively recently, Lag B’omer was not celebrated outside of EY as it is today. The Rebbes in Eastern Europe did not have ‘Hadlokos’ as they do today, whereas in EY it was celebrated all the years.
People have been going to Meron for hundreds of years, but obviously the dangers of travel to what was a remote village, made it not the mass event that it is today until after the founding of the state.

Even if it may technically not be fraud or stealing, it is not yashrus. It can also be the start of a slippery slope into real crime. I have seen this happening. A bochur who in yeshiva started ‘selling’ glasses frames, ended up less than 5 years later behind bars for banking fraud.

That is the point. You spin them!

LuL, Sorry I wasn’t clear.
Yes, generally yeshivos in EY go back on 1st day and start learning 2nd day Rosh Chodesh. However, in the Mir, where I was zoche to spend two wonderful years, everything kicks off on 1st day Rosh Chodesh, whatever day of the week it is. I remember one year Rosh Chodesh was Friday Shabbos. In Gateshead the zman got going only on the Monday, after everyone travelled up on Sunday. I thought to myself. 10am Monday is 12pm in Mir. The daf (meaning the chabura that learns a daf a day which R’ Noson Zvi ztvk”l passionately promoted) are already deep into daf hey before Gateshead gets started. (I’m not having a go, I’m just saying how it is).

CTL, mazel tov on your impending simcha. That is very interesting to me. I grew up in Yeoville, and we davened in the Adath for a long time, before moving to Rav Sternbuch’s kehilla. The Kollel when you were there, would have been in Urania Street, in Observatory. I’m just too young to remember the founders of the Adath, but I remember and know the next generation of their children. They have largely left now some to EY, many in Manchester and other places. If you look online for the South African Jewish Life magazine archive, there is an article to mark the 80th anniversary of the Adath in the March 2017 issue.

Hah, I may see him before that. Did he drop any hints where he learns? Gateshead only go back tomorrow.

Thank you mik5

Yekke2, yes you may even know me. Sounds like one of the families that built the Adath in Yeoville, 2 of which live in Manchester now. I can’t think of any other South Africans born in Ghd who are my age here, but there’s lots of people here in Manchester, it’s growing all the time Ka”h. As they say, “Your cousin Chaim may know.”

Not afraid to date myself. I was 10 years old in 1985. Our non-Jewish schoolbus driver, Daniel, loved the tzlil v’zemer tapes (see, dated myself again).

WtP,
That brings tears to my eyes. I Looooved that song!

Yekke2, Cheelent! LOL

The previous Gateshead Rov said the brocho ‘She’cholak mechochmoso li’yerei’ov’ when Rav Scheinberg visited Gateshead.

No genuine Yekke would be so presumptuous as to call themselves Yekke1.

Sorry Josselle. Also, ‘Jekkisch’, surely?

Yosselle, You’re just not getting it. There are two Rabbonim in this town with exactly the same name. One of them had a nickname, presumably as a child, which for the purposes of this debate, let’s say is Benny. So people of the town, who wish to identify him, refer to Reb Benny, in addition to his full and proper title of Reb Binyomin Greenberg.

He doesn’t choose the name Benny, it is used for convenience by the people, in a respectful way to differentiate him from his namesake.

Capisce?