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May 28, 2013 1:54 am at 1:54 am in reply to: Using chessed vouchers for shabbos shoes๏ฟฝno. 2 #955947gefenParticipant
Zushy – as you see, I’m not the one who did the bold. I don’t know what was wrong with what I said.
95: Can you please tell me what was wrong with my comment? I truly have no idea!
gefenParticipantHealth – ur at it again. Surprise Surprise!
“It’s just the rule -there are exceptions to every rule!
other people would have said,”sorry”” I totally agree with Syag!
And your comment “Stop constantly looking to find fault in
everything I do.” is totally backward – you’re the one finding fault with everyone else.
Haifagirl: “I don’t need an apology. Health entitled to his (her?) opinion.” Hey she was trying to help you, and I agree with her. For a former Chicagoan, you should stick with us.
May 27, 2013 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm in reply to: Using chessed vouchers for shabbos shoes๏ฟฝno. 2 #955940gefenParticipantWe are not continuing the mistake of the other thread.
gefenParticipantZushy – thanks and welcome aboard the cr. And btw – impressive yichus you have!
gefenParticipantDY: Yes. I agree that we should do our hishtadlus to give an opportunity for all girls to get married – all the while recognizing that it’s completely up to Hashem whether or not it succeeds- and of course we always hope it succeeds. I intentionally left out the phrase “based on statistics”. This statistic thing just bothers me. Maybe it’s because I feel that some girls may lose hope because of it. And also because of what I said before – we cannot only go by statistics. I just cannot get with that mindset.
Having said that – I wish all the singles – young and older – much hatzlacha and bracha in finding their bashert. We should all hear lots of Mazal Tovs!
May 27, 2013 3:07 am at 3:07 am in reply to: I am not in high school anymore, Chessed is nice, BUT I need a parnassah! #955270gefenParticipantVogue: How about Chicago. There’s TI- a frum college for girls only. You can dorm there as well. You can also find part time jobs here as a start – as a teacher’s assistant. You can also put your name on a substitute list. Hatzlacha Rabba.
gefenParticipantDY: To answer your question, yes we are in contact with shadchanim and friends. I did say we have to do our hishtadlus (see one of my previous posts). But we also have bitachon and know that Hashem is the One in charge.
gefenParticipantShoe store assistant: Thanks. +1 to your post too.
gefenParticipantGolfer: “And in a mathematical equasion if they’re both equal then I think you’re wrong.” No they are not both equal. I repeat – Hashem is beyond statistics and mathematical equations (spelled with a t by the way). He is the One we must turn to. Period. BTW – can you explain how not believing in the shidduch crises and age gap would make one a koifer?
DY: apples and oranges. But if you’re going to make that comparison anyway, I would say, yes – Hashem is in charge of your parnassa as well. Of course one must do their hishtadlus to earn money and budget it correctly, just as one must do their hishtadlus in shidduchim. According to the statistic theory, there’s no point in working on shidduchim for the older girls if it’s already determined that 10% will not get married. Why don’t we just give up on the older girls?
gefenParticipantOk – I must admit I have not read all the posts here but I do feel the need to comment.
We just read in the Yated that 10% of girls at given time cannot be married. WHAT???????????? Why is everyone so obsessed with statistics? Statistically, the Jews should not even be around at all. Look how many nations, bigger and stronger, tried to get rid of us. If you only go by statistics, they should have been successful. No? So why weren’t they? Oh yeah – we forgot – there’s a G-d in this world who is beyond statistics! Why are we constantly taking Him out of the picture? If He wants someone to get married, they will. End of conversation.
gefenParticipantVogue – I can understand the teddy bears – they’re cute and cuddly.
But imaginary friends??? That sounds a bit over the top for that age group IMHO.
WIY- LOL. I was thinking something along those lines too.
gefenParticipantWe should put out an APB!
May 23, 2013 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: Family in dire health crisis in Lakewood area #954416gefenParticipantWhat a sad sad story! He should have a refuah shelaima! I will I”YH send in a check.
gefenParticipantMy charges were refunded to me B”H.
When I called one of the companies- landsend, they said that within the last day or two, they had over 300 such cases! They had to refund the money to all those ppl.
gefenParticipantRabbi Perfect: We had a similar situation a couple of years ago. Some woman called asking for my husband and I gave the same shpiel you did. “Oh so your the woman my husband’s cheating with?….”
I must say, I really had a good time with that! Of course my husband was standing right next to me and laughing the whole time.
I love having fun with these people.
gefenParticipantok – i’ll bite – what are you talking about?
gefenParticipant42: ^_^
gefenParticipant42: Yes the bank did cancel the card after i called them. I should be getting a new one w/in 7-10 days.
72: Now that you mention it, I do remember reading about that ID chip in cards and that ppl can easily access it. It’s probably too late to ask for one w/o the rfid chip b/c the bank is already processing my new one. But I will check out what you told me regarding punching it out. Very interesting. Thanks.
gefenParticipantsqueak – also with chase bank?
btw – when I spoke with one of the companies that charged me, they said the order was placed on line from an address
[email protected]. I had never heard of that one before. Has anyone here heard of it? (no the xxx was not part of the address, it was my name. whoever had my credit card # also had my name and made up an address for it)
May 20, 2013 12:23 am at 12:23 am in reply to: Ten things your teenage babysitter wishes you knew #1098574gefenParticipantmitzvahgirl613- I do agree with you. If the parents tell you they will be home at a certain time then realize they won’t be, they should definitely call.
May 20, 2013 12:14 am at 12:14 am in reply to: Ten things your teenage babysitter wishes you knew #1098572gefenParticipantultimateskier- If ur not joking, please don’t babysit. U sound a bit bitter or stressed out.
gefenParticipanttsk tsk ๐
gefenParticipant42- LOL
gefenParticipantVogue- btw – I was also a bit confused because I actually work for a chabad place so I thought maybe you know who i am.
gefenParticipantVogue – oh ok – now I get it.
WIY – I already contacted my bank and one of the stores that had a charge listed. It is all being taken care of. I was just wondering about it especially since someone else who also uses chase just had the same thing within the past few days.
gefenParticipantChabad calendar? Vogue – I really don’t get you at all. Just a few points for you; 1)Today was Shabbos, not a chabad holiday. 2) I am not chabad – not that it matters.
gefenParticipantVogue – ur point?
gefenParticipantEveryday is mothers’ day! And don’t you forget that! ๐
gefenParticipantMay 10th anyone? Come on. Surely someone can come up with something. Let’s see if we can get the whole month done. ๐
Btw- 42 and Syag; LOL!!!
gefenParticipantMod 42; +1000000
gefenParticipantA Modern Chasid – yes, I agree with sharp- how do you know what others are thinking?
a mamin – Just curious. Which news items “shocked” you?
gefenParticipantwritersoul and just my hapence: HUH?
gefenParticipantand tomorrow is the day the ship with mayonaisse sank. ^_^
gefenParticipantI do know a few of the posters here and they know me(and of course I know my kids sns but they haven’t posted in a while). I am very curious to know if I know any others, or if others know me.
Haifagirl, I’m one of those who haven’t figured out who you are yet? In fact I asked another poster but she doesn’t know either. I am sooo curious. How long have you been away from chicago?
Syag – if ur afraid to ask for opinions because ppl will know who the main players are, why don’t you use ur other (unused)screen name for that?
gefenParticipantOK – more “YES” answers.
ATTN YWN: Those of you in charge of the home page and pop up ads – HEAR OUR PLEA! (No -we are not davening to you – that we save for Hashem) But please get rid of those big ads that we have to “x” out in order to see your home page. Sometimes it even pops up more than once while I’m trying to read.
gefenParticipantT613T – Yes other sites have it too (though not ones I visit) but YWN never did before and IMHO I really feel they should stop. It’s really annoying. I don’t mean to sound so negative and rude. I hope I’m not coming across that way.
Happy Lag B’omer – everyone!
gefenParticipantok – So I see that so far there are a few who agree. How can we get them to stop?
Shall we rebel? ๐
Shall we boycott? ๐
Any ideas?
WIY – like ur idea. so let’s go to their website to shnor for ywn. it’s gotta be BIG BOLD pop ups!
gefenParticipant147 – I told him only to be chassidish TONIGHT. Then he and you can go back to being litvish.
syag – tell ur kids my son and i didn’t go either. not for the same reason though. we just didn’t go. in fact i asked him if he wants to find out if a certain friend was going and maybe he could go with him. (i now know that friend didn’t go either ;)) my girls and husband did go. actually we live close enough that i was able to hear the music from home.
gefenParticipantPopa -so become chassidish for tonight ๐
April 26, 2013 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042607gefenParticipantDaas- I don’t understand ur post to efshir. Can you explain or is it private? ๐ Or am i just slow? ๐
April 26, 2013 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042603gefenParticipantefshir – She lives in a different city, so they don’t see each other often at all. They do keep in touch via email and phone though. I hear you about being a bad influence. Baruch Hashem, my daughter is aware of that and is very careful. But as I said, it’s not like they hang out together – so that’s a good thing.
DaasYochid – Yes it would be unconscionable for someone to report what she said, but unfortunately it does happen.
April 26, 2013 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042600gefenParticipantwritersoul:
“Girls don’t violate tznius on a whim, or because it looks fun- they want to look pretty, and that’s how they think they can do it. Misguided, maybe, but I highly doubt this girl is malicious in her dressing”
I don’t think that goes for every girl who dresses untzniusdik as there are many who do it B’davka. They want to rebel or whatever. However, for the girl I am talking about, I think ur right. I believe she just thinks it looks good. She’s very very thin so of course most things look great on her. Of course, I don’t know her as well as my daughter does, but I think she’s basically a good girl otherwise.
So I hear the arguments that it shouldn’t matter what the boy is looking for (I think I said this already in one of my other posts). The question is about HER and her level of tznius. Got that. Also if my daughter would give info that’s misleading, ie; that she is tsnuisdik, and the boy is not like that, it could be potentially a bad situation.
So now my question. If my daughter tells the truth in as nice a way as possible (ex; to ask what they define as tznius, etc etc), and if the girl finds out what she said, how does she deal with the fallout if the girl gets upset with her?
April 26, 2013 1:41 am at 1:41 am in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042588gefenParticipantWow! I don’t think I ever started a thread that lasted this long. They usually die out after a day or two and maybe 10 posts. I am so proud that I actually started something interesting. ๐
(I hope they put my smiley face at the END of my comment this time instead of in the middle of my last sentence like has happened a few times)
April 23, 2013 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042552gefenParticipant“Anyway, I think we will go with chanasara’s advice for now.
It might be sound advice, but I just want to point out that you initially rejected the idea. I quote from your OP:
“If she would have asked the caller what he’s looking for, or say that there are different standards of tznius, that would already raise a red flag.”
Daas Yochid – you got me there! ๐
I guess after reading all the posts, I came to realize that maybe that is the best way to go. It just has to be done the right way. I believe chanasara worded it in a respectful and non-judgmental way.
April 22, 2013 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042538gefenParticipantchanasara; Thank you for your answer. That sounds like the best way to handle this.
DaasYochid; Right – I was not asking a halachic question (at least I don’t think I was). I just wanted opinions on this delicate topic.
However as others pointed out, Tznius is a halacha. Wearing tight skirts and not totally covering the knees is not tznius, and it really shouldn’t matter what the boy’s standards are. The question was “does she dress tznius”. However,I don’t agree with the comparison to the half Shabbos – texting situation. I see one as black and white and the other as possibly having some grey areas.
Anyway, I think we will go with chanasara’s advice for now.
Thanks everyone for your input.
April 21, 2013 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042530gefenParticipantI think we (my daughter and I) are more confused now than we were before. Although, we do hear everyone’s point here. It just seems so complex and confusing. But Syag (and others who said this), you are 100% right – tight skirts and showing the knees is NOT tznius. That is a fact. And you’re also right that the boy’s level of what is acceptable also does not determine what is tznius. So maybe I’m not as confused as I thought. It’s just finding a way to answer these questions that’s kind of uncomfortable, especially for a girl who is also in the parsha.
gefenParticipantI looked it up on youtube and found a few of them. It was special and moving but I wasn’t moved to tears as I thought I would based on what was said above.
gefenParticipantcan someone post the link?
we probably won’t allow it. sorry
April 21, 2013 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042510gefenParticipantDaas “Gefen, moot point for this case if the caller doesn’t know your daughter, but if she did, since tznius standards differ, she probably would be asking your daughter’s opinion according to her own standards.”
So my daughter should answer according to her own standards? Then the answer would be “No – she does not dress tzniusdik” but that’s the whole problem here, she doesn’t want to say that (and I agree with her). It’s so harsh. We are trying to find a nice way to put it without ruining anything and without sounding “holier than thou”.
April 21, 2013 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042509gefenParticipantDerech Hachaim – I hear you about being honest but saying “NO” seems so harsh. As I said, we don’t know what the boy in question is looking for. He might be ok with it.
Brony- Your quote says “always covers her knees”. I said “barely covers” There is a difference. But I do get what your saying about wording things in the best possible way.
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