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ps: Feif Un sorry i didnt realise you said grammar, when get heated up i sometimes mis read words… im sorry that im not perfect in grammar but thats not the skls fault its a personal fault.
first of all for your info mazal77 im also spharadi, and tg my mom has taught me to cook very well, ive had many compliments about my cooking…. thats besides the point.
oki feif un about gemmara, i tg have a really good relationship with my dad and bn able to learn some sugias in gamara with him, and i understand y girls shouldnt learn gammara, cos eventhough im able to think more like a boy and my rabbis tell me i souldve bn a boy and bn able to learn gamara women usually tend to get more emotional and cant figure out halacha in that way, and i know girls dont like the sound of that but its true…. about tanacha and that stuff, im sure you know how much mussar and hashkafa you can learn from every word, eventhough girls dont learn gamara they still wanna know where halachot are from and so on, it help have the right intention to do things…. how are we ment to have the right hashkova eitherwise? brainwashing? i know personally if i didnt learn with meforshim and learn things by heart it wouldve bn harder for me to learn where things are from and understand them properly, but thats a personal perspective….
anyway im not sayint that you shouldnt have home ec at skl, on the contrary i had lessons at skl but the main part of house hold lessons should b learnt at home, if a mother doest know its up to her to find a way to teach their daughters whats nb in the house, its up to the mother to b able to take what the girls learn in skl and teach them to incorperate it at home….
besides the fact that you all against the bj system but i dont think any yeshiva bocher would marry anyone less than a bj student, if the girl went to a basic hashkofa skl that taught etiquet and cooking only they wouldnt look once never mind twice, no matter how good her kesher to hashem, so deap down everyone knows the importance of the hectic sylebus of the bj system…
I can’t talk for all the seminaries but as for Machon Raaya…The “non-traditional BY girl” comment has to be explained.
All the girls there are Bais Yaacov minded,with the correct hashkafas and strong values. Most went to BY schools and are all solid, good girls.At the same time they would probably be classified as “out of town” due the fact that everyone is very open minded and intelligent, not only in Hebrew studies but in English as well. Graduating w/ high averages and AP classes in various English studies, all the girls are intelligent In The Box AND Out of The Box thinkers. It is a bit of a mix, ranging from actual “out of towners” to “out of countryers” and brooklyn(yes that’s in-town).
The school itself is on the academic side(which you probally knew already) but at the same time the pressure is minimal. Yes there are a lot of teachers and preperation and Hachana but it’s all quite bearable once everyone settles into the school year. I would not quite equate it with BJJ on that point alone.
The girls in BYMR know how to have a good time and the school itself arranges many trips(bi-weekly trips w/in the city+tiyulim+Shabbatons) and activities for the girls which are quite enjoyable. There is a lounge and excercise room (and the food and snacks are GREAT!) and every staff member is warm and caring. *One of the biggest praise for the school would probably be the amazing staff members; teachers and hanhala alike.
Bottom line: It’s a Bais Yaacov school but with a bit more room, very intellectual with a small, close knit, group of girls and a fantastic staff.
-sidepoint: When they say the school is textual they mean it! They do A LOT of inside work and prep for class. But not everyone that came was nesc so textual and at this point (almost 2 months in) most said that they are definatly getting better at it and actually doing quite well in that area. So if you are not so textual…that changes!
hey i didnt manage to read the whole thread but ive read most and im really upset with what everyone is saying… i as a beis yaakov girl find is so important to learn torah and really delve into it…. the reason that we need that now in the 21st cent and not b4 is bc we have yeridat hadorot, if girls dont learn more, the jewish feeling will b left out at home…. from where i come from i know many ppl who didnt go through the ‘modern’ bj system and their house is devoide of the ‘torah air’. there is so much tuma in the world now that we have to give the equivilant amount of kedusha…. yes its imoportant that we learn things thatll b usefull at home and i agree that this is a great prob in the us, and something should b done about it, but if the mother doesnt have torah how could the children fulfill ‘al tishkach torat imecha’
now-days there is very little siadadishmaya of the mother, and a woman has to work for it…
yes i did learn home ec. at my school but that could b learnt from home, thats really the mothers job, and everyone who complains that the school doesnt teach their daughters to cook, should involve them in the kitchen themselves.
sara shneira’s vision was so that the girls would b able to have a torah’s education, not HOW TO B A GOOD COOK!
hey i just wanted to say that i dont think that theres a time span to when ppl date… i know of two couples, one that went of 5 dates and the other for 4 years…. and b’h they both happy couples, as they torah sais, col echad al pi darcho…. it wasnt only talking about education… but the whole way a child leads his life includint marrige….