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Jakob
Contact the chabad house on Ocean Highway…they have minyanim on Shabbos (especially durinjg the summer and into the fall) but probably don’t have regular daily minyanim
to ballabuste….
Chazal bring down that having grown ups around exercising parental authority has been shown to be detrimental to spontaneity, development of an “individualized hashkafha” and an overall downer for bochurim looking to escape the rigor of heavy duty shteiging during bein hazmanim
To Baal Boose:
As Bill Clinton would say, it really depends on what you mean by “reasonable”….if your bochur is studying at a yeshiva in EY and is home for the yom tovim he can perhaps legitimately argue that he will get up for shachris sometime in the early afternoon to take advantage of the reverse time difference with chutz la’aretz
Most of the yiddeshe mosdos and media reinforce the Moed Mania by hyping special concerts, theme park trips and other “unshteiging” type events. I’m not making any value judgements and probably lean in the direction of thinking that 8 straight days of yom tovish observance would challenge the attention span and hashkafah of even the biggest masmidim…..
We’ve developed a minhag of carving faces in the esrog motzi yom tov and hanging out by the front door like the goyim do with their pumpkins…much more challenging given the smallrt scale…use a hobbyist wood carving knife…most difficult part is getting the payos likelike
If you go back, don’t get tempted by the gratis “Swedish meatballs”….the meat does not have a good chassideshe hashgacha…..the gravlax looks tempting but there is still the inyan of whether the salmon were inspected for tiny worms…However, the bottled water has a circle “M”.
Usually, the editors are accused of hating Satmar so I guess this is part of affirmative action
Sort of ironic that many of of today’s generation of future talmeidi chachamim grow up thinking about Moed succos in terms of trips to one of several theme parks and partying at all-nighj simchas beis hashoeivas more akin to Purim Sheini. The blurry line between “kodesh” and “chol” seems to have morphed in the wrong direction.
To Joe:
Sure….the gabbi sheini stands by the entrance to the ezras nashim with a list provided by the mikvah lady and checks off each woman before allowing her to partiicpateTo Little Know….
They didn’t invent “bein hazmanim” until long after the time of the mishna….There are a number of MO shuls where women dance with the torahs on simchas torah in the varbeshe section of the shul with a mechitza blocking the view. Maybe we should start a website listing those shuls just as we have websites for everything else ….as to why a woman would want to show her ahavas hashem through dancing with a torah, ask a woman…..
Yekke 2 asks: “Explain, in your own words, what you feel the function of bein hazmanim is?….”
For those who don’t take the admonition of “V’hagesa bo yomam valaylah” literally, it means the reality that there are yom tovim, which require preparation time everyone from the Rosh Yeshiva, the many rabbonim who may be magid shiiur down to the workers in the chadar ochel to the janitors who sweep the floors in the beis medrash. These same people have families and require time off for rest and vacation The reality is that even the most dedicated masmid needs a break. You cannot shteig 24x7x365.
The general inyan that one should “hasten” to perform a mitzvah would suggest davening earlier and not waiting for the latest possible minyan for a bochur to daven….normally, at the yeshiva, he could roll out of bed and be in the beis medrash for davening within a few minutes…at home during bein hazmanim, that time line is obviously longer. As a practical matter, unless you live within a few blocks of a shul which has non-stop minyaniim right up until z’man, this entire thread may be irrelevant
Perhaps there is some special “dispensation” for the yeshiva talmidim from the mashgiach ruchani to sleep in on Friday AM if one were out late Thursday night attending a seudas mitzvah (aka Chulent night at the local chassidish place) …my recollection is that they had a hard time getting a minyan on Friday am at the YU dorms….maybe not an issue for BMG in Lakewood (or perhaps its just lousy NJ chulent)
Rav Gavornlik argued that when possible (such as during bein hazmanin) when they have the flexibility, yungerleit should consider davening vasikim to show the discipline…sleeping late to the last minute before z’man shachris is not respectful and more attuned to a college kid on spring break partying late and sleeping in the next AM with a hangover.
To I Know Little
You say there is lots of other stuff worse than guns than kids should know about. Perhaps you have a different philosophy but some of us believe its better to empower our kids with age appropriate information on subjects we wish they never would encounter but know they will . As you correctly note, kids today cannot be kept locked away in some “safe room” with no exposure to all sorts of pritzus and painful images. Do you think its worse for them to see fundraising pashkavelim with pictures of starving children or elderly begging for tzadakah outside of the shul or beis medrash than girls dressed in less than tziniusdik outfits on 13th avenue on a warm Shabbos afternoon or a gay couple holding hands on Eastern Parkway? Giving them the information how daas torah deals with these “inappropriate” issues and visuals is much better than keeping than in the dark and forcing them to confront these issues with no understanding or prior discussion.
Perhaps you should ask why decorating the sucah or ANY other task not specifically mandated under Halacha is defined by gender? Whoever in the family (husband, wife or both) who have the time and requisite skills to perform a task is the one who should do it….too many household tasks get stereotyped by gender unnecessarily. Men are perfectly capable of doing the laundry, cooking for yom tom or toiveling new dishes. Women can build a sucah, buy seforim for the kids or help the kids with their homework, whether secular or limudei torah.
A 3 minute or 3 hour shiur/shmooz/dvar torah etc. is for the same purpose….to instruct and share daas torah with the listeners…..the same inyan can be addressed by magid shiur A versus magid shiur B in vastly different ways and levels of detail and repetition ….sometimes, what was expected to be a relatively brief 30-45 minute shiur can go on for an hour or two simply because the rav may have interim thoughts tangential to his main point that he wishes to share, the talmidim take him off on some tangent or he wishes to drill down into much greater detail to make the same point in different ways
Also, many shuls sadly now have armed security (typically off-duty police officers from a local jurisdictions). I’ve discovered that having these police stationed at shuls offers an opportunity for close (one on one) informal interaction with the daveners and their kids which typically does not arise in normal street situations.
Has anyone considered tofu and arugala salad for simchas torah? much healthier then either chulent or cholopchis (aka prakas)….
Unless you’ve kept your kids hidden and locked away in the basement for 15 years (and you are guilty of child abuse) any normal frum kid would see guns on the street every day while walking to and from school (police, security guards etc.), on the media, in play guns they are given and in school while studying history or any subject in which modern warfare is addressed. Otherwise, its a great question.
Traditional Ungarishe recipe for Chalchopkis is to hollow out a large head of cabbage, stuff with a 5lb bag of sugar (remove bag first) and then bake in a 375 degree oven for 45 minutes. Garnish with a teaspoon of rice and ground beef before serving.
I’m not sure how many esrog trees from the seeds of the original Chazon Ish tree in BB are producing esrogim but from a purely objective and technical perspective, are these esrogim any more “hidur” than those from Italy or other locations??? And is there any price at a which the concept of hidur mitzvah gives way to the notion that the price is simply “too high” ?
If Mir teaches in English/Hebrew because a majority of its talmidim come from the U.S., than it would make sense for other yeshivot/kollels in EY to mandate that after a certain date, anyone who is a magid shiur present in Ivrit…there should obviously be exceptions to the rule for older rabbonim for whom giving a shmooz in ivrit would be challenging so Yiddish could be accommodate with simultaneous translation for a new generation of ivrit-speaking ynungerleit
Just a matter of time before this nitwit blames yesterday’s mass murder on the immorality of the residents of Las Vegas and the pritzus the City is known for (like he implied for the Orlando shooting, and other tragedies).
Obviously, there will always be “weapons” (Trucks, improvised explosives, etc.) available to a deranged murderer or terrorist that can kill multiple persons but automatic and semi/automatic weapons provide a more lethal and efficient path. Of course, the Trumpkopf in chief will pandor to his NRA constituents and accuse anyone calling for any limits on gun control as “politicizing” this tragedy. Note, that his statement carefully avoided calling this a “terror event” since that might offend some of his followers.
Joe….don’t believe everything you read…there is considerable debate among chazal and more contemporary meforshim as to the underlying cause of churban bayis sheini, and even those Chazal who mention priztizus were more nuanced. Also, this was in the historical context where the role of men in both the initiation and perpetuation of what was then called “pritzus” has changed and men today are recognized as much of the cause of the problem and thus part of the solution. With that thought, look in the mirror and a g’mar tov.
Joe and jake….attributing churban habayis to sinas chinam arguably makes sense under daas torah…..attributing tropical storms in the eastern Caribbean which arrive with clockwork regularity and intensify in cycles every few years to some unidentified need for tshuvah by the tzibur for their actions (e.g. yidden voting for Trump, Toevah marriage and other abominations) puts you guys in a rarified atmosphere of naviim that I wouldn’t subscribe to. BTW, there was more pritzus among the men just prior to Chruban bayis shaini than by women but I guess you guys don’t read history.
Keeping a mikvah clean, pristine and sparkling is essential to assuring that those who might not feel the obligation to toivel keep coming back, especially the less frum who take personal hygiene and cleanliness very seriously and would be turned off by anything less than 100 percent clean and well-maintained. The latter takes NIS/$$ which they don’t print in the back of the mikvah.
Joe….”no Jew should antagonize our temporary hosts by telling them we are their equals or that this isn’t their country more than ours….”
Yes, we should confront our hosts and tell them loudly and forcefully we ARE their equals and this IS as much our country as theirs, and we will push back against anyone who acts to the contrary.
Sure Joe….evern a broken clock is right twice a day……there is a game played by some to attribute and rationalize everything that happens to some variation of hashgacha paratis, whether it a routine, normal event or some natural disaster or tragedy and conclude they know that its the Ebeshter warning his hidden to “fix their behavior”. Perhaps what needs “fixing” are those who claim to know what is Hashem’s intent.
Many “young women” shop in the “young men’s” department for certain types of clothes whose styles are really gender neutral but they claim there is better selection and better fit. This is one of those few cases where there is a per se inyan of “beged ish” since the young men are really shopping in the men’s department (or are they?)
Joseph
For most normal yidden who have a family and job, life is already a treadmill with trying to get the kids off to school, getting to minyan a few times a week commuting to and from work, having dinner with the family, helping the kids with homework, caring for or checking in with elderly parents, etc. Toiveling at mikvah “every day” is not a realistic option for 90 percent of the frum tzibur.He doesn’t tell you that the mikvah in Austin charges $100 per toivel…(and that doesn’t include a towel or the gratuity for the mikvah lady)….
worshiping or venerating ANY physical image, representation or whatever is assur so you guys can dance on the head of a pin but the outcome is still the same ….lo taaseh lacha pesel v’chol tamuna……
Akuperma
“Senator Moore is as deplorable as they come, and its time that the deplorables (which includes us, like it or not) have a representative in the Congress.”
The last time someone used that argument in relation to a Southern Judge was when an incredibly undistinguished judge (Harold Carlswell) with strong racist and misogynistic credentials was nominated to the Supreme Court to replace Justice Abe Fortas. In defense against charges that Carswell was at best “mediocre”, Senator Roman Hruska, an equally undistinguished Nebraska Republican, passionaltely made the following argument
“…. there are a lot of mediocre people [in the United States] and we are entitled to a little representation too, aren’t we…. We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos [on the Supreme Court}.”I won’t bother commenting further on this jerk….I think the Senate would be better off with Judge Judy
Hey Sam…his comment was “God and Country in that order’ and executive branch should nullify any law that violated Christian beliefs….cabinet officers must affirm a belief in “a Christian-Judaic God”, a tzelem in all public buildings, etc….
So the chidush is that in lieu of Yiddish, English or Hebrew, rabbonim from all segments of Yiddeshkeit, both Chassidish and Litvish, Ashkenaz and Sphardishe, should come together at an asifah at 770 EP and declare that going forward, all yidden should learn and converse only in French, s’il vous plaît
I don’t mean to disparage anyone whose hashkafah dictates having some hashgacha on everything, just that for a large percentage of frum yidden (or at least many considering themselves frum) and who also believe they are reasonably observant on matters of kashruth, they wouldn’t think of going thirsty because they couldn’t find a bottle of spring water or filtered water with chassideshe hashgacha. Obviously, when you move to “flavored” waters, special energy drinks, etc, some hashgacha is definitely required
For the same reason we don’t put a plumba on a potato
Demonstrating again the “greater fool theory” of marketing, there are several brands of water with some claim of “hashgacha”…..perhaps they are concerned about rumors that certains brands of bottled water are used for avodah zorah or the Chelmer Rebbe’s inyan regarding “mayim yisroel’ versus “mayim stam”
Don’t buy it!
In the context of looking for problems, there are well over 7,000 brands of shampoo on the market including well over 1500 varieties certified vegan (no meat or dairy derived products). Thus, your question is a great shailah to debate between musaf and mincha yom kippur afternoon if the d’var torah is boring or otherwise troll here in the coffee room. However, it would be irrational to presume the question is relevant in any other context.To Yiiddeshe Kop
More than four million yidden living in heretz hakodesh speak Hebrew including most of the gadolim living in EY. A large percentage of Israelis are also fluent in English. Its embarrassing when you see videos of some of these “asifahs” and speakers get up to the podium in front of thousands and cannot communicate in either Hebrew or English so that their message is intelligible to all the attendees.
Ask some of our Landsmen in Stamford Hill and Golders Green in the UK how much it is costing them to follow up on Nigel Lefarge’s decision to leave their old Europeaneshe Unioneshe shul and daven without a minyan in the future. The bill from the EU for costs incurred while they were still “members” is estimated to run anywhere from $50-90 billion dollars.
The point is that there may be practical considerations governing severing a relationship with a shul. Payment of dues for the full year is clearly one concern, especially if the shul relies upon dues to pay the Rav, etc. Also, in some shuls, you may have multi-year pledges to the building fund, etc. The shul possibly got a mortgage based on these pledges. Finally, if there is some aspect of the davening you find problematic than it makes sense to at least alert the Rav so he may consider possible changes, or at lease know about how some of the tzibur feel.
“If the new Shul has more talking and you’re changing because the old Shul became a crowd of older mispallelim who you have little in common to socialize with, so you want to go to Shul with a younger crowd you can shmooze with, that would seem to be unjustifiable.”
Agree on not changing shuls to schmooze more or better quality scotch in the Kiddush club…However, if you have kids and the tzibur of the old shul is increasingly geriatric, than changing shuls to a younger crowd so that kids have friends going to the davening and have special programs for the kids on the yom tovim might be a legit reason to consider changing.
To RebYid…
Obviously, it depends on the picture….if the picture was the usual stuff kids draw in school, no problem; if it were to be an image of some goiyeshe god, than probably not a good idea