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A 3 minute or 3 hour shiur/shmooz/dvar torah etc. is for the same purpose….to instruct and share daas torah with the listeners…..the same inyan can be addressed by magid shiur A versus magid shiur B in vastly different ways and levels of detail and repetition ….sometimes, what was expected to be a relatively brief 30-45 minute shiur can go on for an hour or two simply because the rav may have interim thoughts tangential to his main point that he wishes to share, the talmidim take him off on some tangent or he wishes to drill down into much greater detail to make the same point in different ways
Also, many shuls sadly now have armed security (typically off-duty police officers from a local jurisdictions). I’ve discovered that having these police stationed at shuls offers an opportunity for close (one on one) informal interaction with the daveners and their kids which typically does not arise in normal street situations.
Has anyone considered tofu and arugala salad for simchas torah? much healthier then either chulent or cholopchis (aka prakas)….
Unless you’ve kept your kids hidden and locked away in the basement for 15 years (and you are guilty of child abuse) any normal frum kid would see guns on the street every day while walking to and from school (police, security guards etc.), on the media, in play guns they are given and in school while studying history or any subject in which modern warfare is addressed. Otherwise, its a great question.
Traditional Ungarishe recipe for Chalchopkis is to hollow out a large head of cabbage, stuff with a 5lb bag of sugar (remove bag first) and then bake in a 375 degree oven for 45 minutes. Garnish with a teaspoon of rice and ground beef before serving.
I’m not sure how many esrog trees from the seeds of the original Chazon Ish tree in BB are producing esrogim but from a purely objective and technical perspective, are these esrogim any more “hidur” than those from Italy or other locations??? And is there any price at a which the concept of hidur mitzvah gives way to the notion that the price is simply “too high” ?
If Mir teaches in English/Hebrew because a majority of its talmidim come from the U.S., than it would make sense for other yeshivot/kollels in EY to mandate that after a certain date, anyone who is a magid shiur present in Ivrit…there should obviously be exceptions to the rule for older rabbonim for whom giving a shmooz in ivrit would be challenging so Yiddish could be accommodate with simultaneous translation for a new generation of ivrit-speaking ynungerleit
Just a matter of time before this nitwit blames yesterday’s mass murder on the immorality of the residents of Las Vegas and the pritzus the City is known for (like he implied for the Orlando shooting, and other tragedies).
Obviously, there will always be “weapons” (Trucks, improvised explosives, etc.) available to a deranged murderer or terrorist that can kill multiple persons but automatic and semi/automatic weapons provide a more lethal and efficient path. Of course, the Trumpkopf in chief will pandor to his NRA constituents and accuse anyone calling for any limits on gun control as “politicizing” this tragedy. Note, that his statement carefully avoided calling this a “terror event” since that might offend some of his followers.
Joe….don’t believe everything you read…there is considerable debate among chazal and more contemporary meforshim as to the underlying cause of churban bayis sheini, and even those Chazal who mention priztizus were more nuanced. Also, this was in the historical context where the role of men in both the initiation and perpetuation of what was then called “pritzus” has changed and men today are recognized as much of the cause of the problem and thus part of the solution. With that thought, look in the mirror and a g’mar tov.
Joe and jake….attributing churban habayis to sinas chinam arguably makes sense under daas torah…..attributing tropical storms in the eastern Caribbean which arrive with clockwork regularity and intensify in cycles every few years to some unidentified need for tshuvah by the tzibur for their actions (e.g. yidden voting for Trump, Toevah marriage and other abominations) puts you guys in a rarified atmosphere of naviim that I wouldn’t subscribe to. BTW, there was more pritzus among the men just prior to Chruban bayis shaini than by women but I guess you guys don’t read history.
Keeping a mikvah clean, pristine and sparkling is essential to assuring that those who might not feel the obligation to toivel keep coming back, especially the less frum who take personal hygiene and cleanliness very seriously and would be turned off by anything less than 100 percent clean and well-maintained. The latter takes NIS/$$ which they don’t print in the back of the mikvah.
Joe….”no Jew should antagonize our temporary hosts by telling them we are their equals or that this isn’t their country more than ours….”
Yes, we should confront our hosts and tell them loudly and forcefully we ARE their equals and this IS as much our country as theirs, and we will push back against anyone who acts to the contrary.
Sure Joe….evern a broken clock is right twice a day……there is a game played by some to attribute and rationalize everything that happens to some variation of hashgacha paratis, whether it a routine, normal event or some natural disaster or tragedy and conclude they know that its the Ebeshter warning his hidden to “fix their behavior”. Perhaps what needs “fixing” are those who claim to know what is Hashem’s intent.
Many “young women” shop in the “young men’s” department for certain types of clothes whose styles are really gender neutral but they claim there is better selection and better fit. This is one of those few cases where there is a per se inyan of “beged ish” since the young men are really shopping in the men’s department (or are they?)
Joseph
For most normal yidden who have a family and job, life is already a treadmill with trying to get the kids off to school, getting to minyan a few times a week commuting to and from work, having dinner with the family, helping the kids with homework, caring for or checking in with elderly parents, etc. Toiveling at mikvah “every day” is not a realistic option for 90 percent of the frum tzibur.He doesn’t tell you that the mikvah in Austin charges $100 per toivel…(and that doesn’t include a towel or the gratuity for the mikvah lady)….
worshiping or venerating ANY physical image, representation or whatever is assur so you guys can dance on the head of a pin but the outcome is still the same ….lo taaseh lacha pesel v’chol tamuna……
Akuperma
“Senator Moore is as deplorable as they come, and its time that the deplorables (which includes us, like it or not) have a representative in the Congress.”
The last time someone used that argument in relation to a Southern Judge was when an incredibly undistinguished judge (Harold Carlswell) with strong racist and misogynistic credentials was nominated to the Supreme Court to replace Justice Abe Fortas. In defense against charges that Carswell was at best “mediocre”, Senator Roman Hruska, an equally undistinguished Nebraska Republican, passionaltely made the following argument
“…. there are a lot of mediocre people [in the United States] and we are entitled to a little representation too, aren’t we…. We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos [on the Supreme Court}.”I won’t bother commenting further on this jerk….I think the Senate would be better off with Judge Judy
Hey Sam…his comment was “God and Country in that order’ and executive branch should nullify any law that violated Christian beliefs….cabinet officers must affirm a belief in “a Christian-Judaic God”, a tzelem in all public buildings, etc….
So the chidush is that in lieu of Yiddish, English or Hebrew, rabbonim from all segments of Yiddeshkeit, both Chassidish and Litvish, Ashkenaz and Sphardishe, should come together at an asifah at 770 EP and declare that going forward, all yidden should learn and converse only in French, s’il vous plaît
I don’t mean to disparage anyone whose hashkafah dictates having some hashgacha on everything, just that for a large percentage of frum yidden (or at least many considering themselves frum) and who also believe they are reasonably observant on matters of kashruth, they wouldn’t think of going thirsty because they couldn’t find a bottle of spring water or filtered water with chassideshe hashgacha. Obviously, when you move to “flavored” waters, special energy drinks, etc, some hashgacha is definitely required
For the same reason we don’t put a plumba on a potato
Demonstrating again the “greater fool theory” of marketing, there are several brands of water with some claim of “hashgacha”…..perhaps they are concerned about rumors that certains brands of bottled water are used for avodah zorah or the Chelmer Rebbe’s inyan regarding “mayim yisroel’ versus “mayim stam”
Don’t buy it!
In the context of looking for problems, there are well over 7,000 brands of shampoo on the market including well over 1500 varieties certified vegan (no meat or dairy derived products). Thus, your question is a great shailah to debate between musaf and mincha yom kippur afternoon if the d’var torah is boring or otherwise troll here in the coffee room. However, it would be irrational to presume the question is relevant in any other context.To Yiiddeshe Kop
More than four million yidden living in heretz hakodesh speak Hebrew including most of the gadolim living in EY. A large percentage of Israelis are also fluent in English. Its embarrassing when you see videos of some of these “asifahs” and speakers get up to the podium in front of thousands and cannot communicate in either Hebrew or English so that their message is intelligible to all the attendees.
Ask some of our Landsmen in Stamford Hill and Golders Green in the UK how much it is costing them to follow up on Nigel Lefarge’s decision to leave their old Europeaneshe Unioneshe shul and daven without a minyan in the future. The bill from the EU for costs incurred while they were still “members” is estimated to run anywhere from $50-90 billion dollars.
The point is that there may be practical considerations governing severing a relationship with a shul. Payment of dues for the full year is clearly one concern, especially if the shul relies upon dues to pay the Rav, etc. Also, in some shuls, you may have multi-year pledges to the building fund, etc. The shul possibly got a mortgage based on these pledges. Finally, if there is some aspect of the davening you find problematic than it makes sense to at least alert the Rav so he may consider possible changes, or at lease know about how some of the tzibur feel.
“If the new Shul has more talking and you’re changing because the old Shul became a crowd of older mispallelim who you have little in common to socialize with, so you want to go to Shul with a younger crowd you can shmooze with, that would seem to be unjustifiable.”
Agree on not changing shuls to schmooze more or better quality scotch in the Kiddush club…However, if you have kids and the tzibur of the old shul is increasingly geriatric, than changing shuls to a younger crowd so that kids have friends going to the davening and have special programs for the kids on the yom tovim might be a legit reason to consider changing.
To RebYid…
Obviously, it depends on the picture….if the picture was the usual stuff kids draw in school, no problem; if it were to be an image of some goiyeshe god, than probably not a good idea
Yidden already have enough chumrahs w/o having to postulate a new “shteeble hopper rule”. There are legitimate restrictions that chazal bring down regarding a shul’s ability to “fire” its Rav; there is no restriction I am aware of that limits the ability of a davener to “fire” its shul and relocate to another. There are limits stemming from the inyan of “aseh l’cha rav” that discourage venue shopping among different rabbonim to get the psak din you want on a particular issue and encourage us to establish a relationship with a local rav/posek for all our questions. That doesn’t mean over time you cannot change your shul (and by implication, your rav for those of us for whom the rav of the shul is the rav we use for any halachic questions).
Outside of the yamim noraim when the shul if full and there are generally no available seats, if you walk into shul and someone is in “your” seat, and that person is not a regular, one would generally just sit elsewhere where a seat is available and avoid the awkward request to tell someone to move elsewhere. There are times where common sense and the desire to make a strange yid feel welcome and avoid embarrassment should take precedence over your “entitlement’, whether real or implied.
If you voted for racism, xenophobia, msycoginy and vulgarity, you are a winner…for a change, a politician who is delivering on what he promised…
Lets just ignore “morality”….if there are those who somehow get some kind of sick and perverse psychic satisfaction from theorizing or postulating the enslavement of other human beings because there is some predicate in the torah or Talmud, we should definitely cater to their needs and indulge them. Why not start a thread on when/how its OK to administer summary capital punishment against another yid for violating one of several prohibitions
Obviously, the answer is contextual…..if a shul were to post a picture of Trump in the lobby as a sign of respect, there is little likelihood (with the exception of a few resident Trumpkopfs) of such a picture triggering any concerns of avodah zarah. Likewise, the obligatory photo of the Rebbe, TZL, in many chabad homes is no more or less avodah zorah than the guys who run up and down Eastern Parkway with yellow flags singing “Rebbe is Moishiach”. Same, I’m sure for other chassidus where I’ve seen playing cards (like baseball cards) with photos of their rebbe and other rabbonim in that Chassidiseshe Court. Not sure about Litvish practices on photos but just about every Livtvish home has family photos on the wall
There is a lot of back and forth regarding shuls where someone has some actually “entitlement’ to a seat by virtue of some sort of purchase or endowment of a specific seat (although most MO shuls only “sell seats” for the yamim noraim). For example, when I go to a simcha at a Young Israel somewhere, I rarely have encountered anyone telling me “that seat is taken” by someone not yet in shul. I’m certain that other shuls the issue is as much an entitlement by virtue of years of having sat in the same place rather than a financial entitlement to the seat. However, some of the comments seem to conflate the two different situations.
“since he has been “good for the Jews”, we shouldn’t complain
Yes. we should just keep quiet until we wake up one morning and read his latest tweet about yidden.
“:Speak to Hashem like you would speak to a king or other important person”
If the purpose of tefillah is to engage with the Ebeshter, than there are times where you would speak slowly and pause to consider your thoughts and at other times, speak excitedly and more quickly. It would seem a metronome could make it more likely that your davening would be more mechanical and less from the heart and with less kavanah.
You can read anything you want into any natural event. When you get to olam habah, please post here and let us know if you were correct in your speculation as to the REAL reason why the Ebehster took the action he did. Per my prior comments, I’m skeptical poishete yidden can postuate a cause-effect relationship or point to a specific message from shamayim for even tragedy that occurs.
To Gerodie13:
Great minds think alike….Chazan Lubelsky’s website is what I was referring to above….I discovered his site last year while searching for something similar….He is from London but now lives in Zurich. He has an absolutely wonderful voice, with great articulation of the words of the tefillot without excessive chazanus that frequently makes it difficult to understand. His melodies are so true to form and evoke the memories of what most of us relate to for the yamim noraim.
Meno….”we” obviously have a (reading) issue…I’ve read multiple stories on this and other frum websites about efforts to restrict expansion of frum neighborhoods, location of shuls and mosdos etc., many of which focus on the “excuses” provided for blatantly anti-Semitic efforts to exclude yidden…first and foremost are that large frum families somehow don’t keep up the properties or are not good neighbors. sadly many of these allegations come from other jews in the same neighborhoods. As to my “hated” of religious yidden, I’ll just wish you a g’mar tov and leave it at that.
I don’t know if the Mods will allow a link….if not, just google “nusach and yom kippur mincha” and this link to recording from a well known UK Chazan will appear….
Avram…..agreed that everyone’s body clock is different but you have to start somewhere. This guy acknowledges he is a “big night owl” and thus another option would be to go directly from the late-night pizza place to daven vasikim….but not sure that would work well either.
I cannot think of a more “over-analyzed” photo than the one shown here…you can probably put a million different captions on the photo to make whatever point you wish to make and have some basis for your spin…
It is as much as a mitzvah as would maintaining a non-historic home in good condition with attention to its appearance and how it affects neighboring homes. We read here frequent complaints about how yidden often fail to pay attention to the upkeep of their homes relative to their neighbors by not maintain the landscaping, paving the lawn to park cars, not cutting the lawn (if there still is one) , putting out too many bags of trash motzi Shabbos and yom-tovim w/o taking care they are tied up, leaving childrens’ toys lying in the front yard,etc. All of these factors have a big impact on the visual quality of life in a neighborhood and are as important as painting an historic home in the right color, not using period doors and window in a remodeling project etc. As yidden, we should always strive to be a model neighbor and comply with housing codes, HOA rules etc.
Don’t try to change your entire pattern at one time.. Start with a realistic target of getting to sleep earlier two nights a week (e..g Sunday and Wednesday) so you get get to minyan for shachris with Torah reading on Monday and Thursdays…..if that works, add one day to your routine every few months. On those days you know you won’t make it to shul, make sure you do the full shachris at home.
the obvious intention is to be certain that the bus driver cannot see through the window and has no idea that a jaywalking guy wearing his latest shemira einayim sunglasses cannot see the bus…….at some point, you simply take a deep breadth and hope that this is truly Fake News and there is no substance behind the story….
What is “the point”…..the inyan of visual images of a husband/wife together somehow triggering inappropriate thoughts, pritzus or even mundane worries about some as of tzinius has been hijacked by the churmah crowd beyond any rational understanding. While we obviously try to avoid photos or images that are designed to draw attention or highlight some inappropriate visuals, normal day-to-day imagery of normal, healthy relationships would provide a real positive input to all of us, whatever “medrega” we are on and make us aspire to move up the ladder if necessary.