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The “drinking” issue has been taken to levels of absurdity and potential criminality when ther are some who are actively promoting the notion of drinking “up to the edge” of intoxication and potential life-threatening behavior. I suspect i will take c’v the death or serious injury of a family member of some adom chashuv before the rabbonim decide enough is enough and simply assur excess drinking on Purim. There is NO rational reason why anyone should ever drink to excess (defined as more than they would ordinarily drink) on Purim any more than any other yom tov. If you disagree, consult a first responder or Zakah rather than any mindless yid promoting ad shelo yadah as a chiuv that translates into intoxication.i
I recall this posting (and several similiar threads) from several years ago and the inyan of “getting drunK’ as somehow being necessary to be yotzeh the mitzvah is as disgusting now as it was then. People die from vehicular accidents and falls related to intoxication….jiust about all rabbonim who have addressed the issue assur anything more than modests amount of alcohol and those who explicitly “permit” excessive drinking and thereby creating a risk of dealth and serious injury to the entire tzibur are putting their own families in the front of the line for such a tragedy.
There was a Rav who used to say that the men who always claimed to put women up on a pedestal (to establish their egalitarian credentials) did so only because it made it easier to bash them…sort of like teein up a golfball. While this Rav was not widely known among the frum tzibur (he was a musmach from YU in a MO shul), there is an element of truth to his words. Most of the worst abusers superficially have ehrliche yiddeshe and traditional church affiliations and claim venerate and worship women in their “special role” but the reality are women with black eyes the photo we saw of the ex-wife of Trumps special assistant last week.
To Laskern:
It prevents adultery because if a woman is known in the community to have the last name of her husband, everyone will know he is married to that woman and no other woman wiill be interested in engaging in any intitmate relationship with him.
Obviously the learning we bring down from chazal are timeless but hte ability to apply that wisdom to the world we live in is what distinguishes midless trolling from the daas torah we receive from the gadolim and poskin we rely upon in living our daily lives.
Lets first create the essential prerequisite of achdus among klal yisroel before we even begin worrying about the “practical” issues in building bayis shlishi. I’m sure moishiach will be bale to resolve the nuts and bolts issues of the construction project.
There is a difference between “political correctness” and vulgarity. When being PC provides an excuse for failing to deal with serious public policy issues, that is wrong and “plain talk” may be necessary. But as we have sadly learned, “plain talk” can be civil and respectful but objective. Vulgarity and bullying simply provide anoher excuse for different segments of the population to avoid addressing the real issues.
Phil”
It takes an adom katan to find some quotation from chazal that arguably had a nuanced meeting over a thousand years ago and attempt to suggest it has literal applicability today. Such trolls obviously have serious issues that they are dealing with via anonymous postings on a discussion site and derive some sick satisfaciton from watching the outrage they can muster. The arsonist who sets a fire and then waits around for the sirens and flashig lights are a poor analogy to trolling sick and hateful comments on womens’ right, ethnic superioriy etc and saying “well thats what chazal say”, . are a form of virtual arson. To wish bad outcomes for such trolls is probably stooping to their level.
Approved, with the disclaimer that chazal’s quotations do not expire with time. – 29
Its possible that there is no psakfrom gadolei yisroel in the pre war/ post war era dealiing directly with AC systems given that most since very few shtieblach had central air conditioning systems. There were occasional references to fans but those don’t generally deal with whether they would be treated in the same way as lights for purposes of whether it was OK to have the shabbos goy turn them on/off. Likewie, the issue is futher complicated by whether using a programmed thermostat to turn on the AC systems would be a question o maris ayin or zilzul shabbos. Very few batei medrash/shtieblch in the Alte Heim had AC systems with thermostats so it wasn’t an issue
“…the process of obtaining the [driver’s license] results in compromising her modesty as does actual driving of a vehicle by a woman for this exposes her to sites in the streets and marketplace…”
Not sure what relevance this may have had at some point decades ago but it is totally irrelevant and nonsensical today. A woman can get a driver’s license at the Motor Vehicles department with no issues of tzinius and in NY, NJ and many other states, can request a woman examiner for the driving test. The second comment makes even less sense. A woman walking on the sidewalk is more likely to encounter and see up close a lot more pritzus than driving in her car along the same street.
Covering your head while davenin with your tallis is fine as long as that is minhag in that shul or beis medrash. However, to do so in a shul where no one else engages should be done with care so you don’t c’v send the signal that you consider yourself a much more ehrliche yid than others in the tzibur.
What is the possible concern with eating raw salmon versu raw tuna, flounder, snapper or any of over 20 other types of kosher fish which are served at restaurants with Chassideshe hashgacha. With proper preparation and monitoring for possible worm infestation, raw fish is raw fish.
I am not certain why there even needs to be a debate regarding a simple statement by the editors that echoes a theme shared by virtually all yidden (except for a few trolls who derive some sick satisfaction from enraging others with their rants). All lives matter. Sure, each segment of society may hve a special interest in how a tragedy affects those closest to them (as stated in the YWN editorial note) but its a lot different than saying the lives and well being of Group A are more important than those of Group B. I recall several terrorist episodes where the hostages were separated out by yidden and others and in some cases a few heroic goyim claimed they were yidden or the group overall refused to self-segregate to protect yidden.
Akuperma
” Be happy. It is a bracha to live at a time when obesity is considered to be a public health problem”
I don’t think we should be “happy” nor consider it a barachaa that yidden have among the highest rates of obesity and suffer from obesity related diseases at a higher rate than the general population. Your sense of simcha is a bit warped and misplaced.
So if they didn’t ask the Shabbos goy in the alte heim who turned on the lights to also turn on the AC or fans, who did they ask???
“….[Chaza]l say you should wear a hat like one that is normally worn when walking in the street or meeting with an important person.
There is something inherently contradictory in this statement. When you observe photos or artistic renderings of someone in the alte heim meeting with an adam chashuv, askan or melech, they almost always take OFF the hat they wore in the streets or when traveling. Even today in Congress, there is a requirment for both men and women to REMOVE thei hats out of respect for the institution. Why would you want to keep the hat you wore in the street (or in the field, or whatever) on when presenting yourself to melech malchei h’mlachim??
Very wide brims are like the oversized eyeglass frams and similiar “fashionista” styles that are desigined to call attention to oneself and thus are not tziniusdik for men. Jut becasue some litvisher rav wears oversized brims doen not make it “ok”others. Perhaps he was given the hat and cannot afford to have ithe brim made smaller.
Even credit cards will soon be obsolete as more businesses (and especially restaurants, bars, etc.) move towards new payment systems tied to phone apps. Millenials don’t want to carry cash or even credit cards…just one universal device (aka their iPhones) for every task in their life (well almost every)…that is why all these periodic asifahs to “ban the internet”, “assur smartphones” etc. are such a waste of time. Instead, lets focus the frum tzibur on how to intelligently use these new tools and what protections we should consider since they will be essential for daily life within the next few years.
iacrisrmma: Because after a few bites of this special ungareshe Purim Kugel, you will have been yotzeh the mitzvah of ad shelo yada mincha from shachris.
BTW: where do we bring down from chazal that eating kugel on Purim is m’doraisah??
Recipe for Purim Kugel:
Start with a take out 2-lb Kugel from Greenfeld’s on Lee Avenue In Willy (or whatever is the best source fo an Ungaresh style kugel in your neighborhood), soak in 3/4 cup of Johny walker red (or your favorie scotch) and warm in oven at about 275 degrees for about 15 minutes before serving. Call Uber for a ride to shul fo Megillah.The point being that the inyan of rebuilding beis hamikdash is wrapped in absraction and emunah about z’man moisiach and how we know who is moisiach (putting aside all the Eastern Parkway meshugaas). Thus, there i considerable skepticism about the efforts of some groups in EY who sincerely believe in accelerating the process by literal efforts to begin architectural planning, engineering and procurement of the “stuff” we think will be necessary to for avodah, shlepping goats up to har habayis to restart karbanos etc. Achdus in terms of hoping for coming of moishiach is very different than some of the crazy stuff we read abou here every few months.
Not sure what you mean by “substandard”. You get the best quality”stuff” you can afford that serves its intended pupose and provide you and your family with satisfaction. If your not a big “car person” than there is no need to buy a $75,000 luxury SUV if a $35,000 provides the fucntionality, safety, space and comfort you need. Buying to impress others rarely provides the satisfaction you are seeking but deliberately living a spartan lifestyle with substandard material posessions may cost more in the long-term and in some cases could also put you and your family at risk.
Reb Zuckerberg has more yiddeshe “followers” than any Rebbe in history… As the originator of “social medial”, he Guiness Book of Records lists him as hving been the “guest of honor” at more “Asifahs” than any other person in the hitory of “Assur the Internet” Asifahs.
Phil…..
Apparently the need for comic relief outweighs the trolling factor….try to remember trolling 101 (aka if you respond to a stupid or hateful comment by a troll you get more trolling). Do you recall those cute little furry creatures on the original Startrek series called “Tribbles” where each time you touched them, you got more Tribbles. Well Trolls here in the CR are sort of like virtual yiddeshe Triblach. If you respond to Joe you get more Joe.“….we should all go to Eretz Yisroel and start building the Beis Hamikdosh”
So if 8-9 million yidden from chutz l’aretz show up next week in Yerushalayim with shovels, hammers, etc. please explain how this will get done? What does it mean to “start building”? Fundraising? acquiring need land? physical excavation?Obviously, there are those who strongly hold that it is irrelevant that today, dairy farmers don’t mix milk supplies from different animals, there are rigid inspection protocols over dairy farms and producers, we have strict health and refrigeration standards, etc. All that is important to them is that a gazillion years ago, some goy might have milked a cow, adulterated the milk, yadda yadda. For them, they are fortunate that cholov yisroel is more readily available at reasonable prices and with better shelf life. For those who hold that cholov stam is sufficient for their hashkafah, than its never been a concern.
Since there are over 70+ comments on the regular news website, what chidush are you offering that has not been said 69 separate times? The large percentage of posters think the verbal and physical assault was disgusting, although a small number suggested that perhaps the girls had “asked for it” because some felt their skirts were too short even though they were wearing long-sleeves and high-necked clothing.
Laskern: So you are saying that the Ebeshter wants his yidden to first build the Beis Hamikdash prior to the arrival of Moishiach somewhere in the vicinity of har habayis (TBD) and then he will send down a secondBais Hamikdash that will consume the first one in flames??? Sounds a bit circular….
A couple of years ago when some right wing moishichist group began “planning”: for binyan bayis shlishi, the postings quickly spiraled out of control with questions as to whether the new beis hamikdash would be built to the original specs in the torah or with modern technology icluding high-speed internet acesss..
Minor issue that even talking about building ANYTHING in the area currently occupired by what we commonly refer to as har habayis, El Asqua, the Dome etc. would likely trigger a massive civil insurrection, war with neighboring arab countries etc. Other than that bloodletting (and also that there has been no sighting of Moishiach on Eastern Parkway other than the usual guys running around with yellow flags) initiating construciton of a “beis hamikdash” b’yamenu, would be a great idea.
Sam101
As a gadol hador(ah), I know that when the topic is whether a certain askan, public official, Rav or poishete yid acted properly in doing XYZ, its not “lashon harah” to clearly present your view as to whether XYZ is an appropriate action, public policy etc. We read here often how in EY where Rabbonim are much more active in political debate, that certain rabbonim denigrate and use hyperbole with respect to those whose political views they disagree with yet when someone responds by criticizing the source of the negative comments, they themselves are criticized for using lashon harah w/o acknowledging the original source . Yes, there are ways to disagree without engaging in what you might consider lashon harah but many times, there is no way to avoid acknowledging what was said or done, even if it might “upset” some readers. If someone goes OTD (linguistically) that’s why the Ebeshter created “Mods”.
The level of dialogue here in the YWN CR is really outstanding. Every few weeks, there is some posting complaining that criticisim of other yidden by some participant or strong disagreement with a political view expressed by a well know rav is either lashon harah, mevazeh talmid chacom or apikorsus (or in some cases a trifecta of all three). By and large, the Mods seem to be trying to keep us on the high road without cutting off legitimate dissenting views. In many cases, there are facts and realities which some may regard as lashon harah but in reality must be stated and openly debated. Shutting down discussion in the name of avoiding someone else’s definition of “lashon horah” would substantially erode the valuie of this site.
Joseph….
Sadly, there are many yiddeshe “magazines”, “news outlets” etc. which hav a Rav on their mastheads and still barely rise to the level of “Daas Balebatim”…..having some rebbele on the staff is no guarantee of a higher level of journalistic compliance with shulchan aruch given that so many of the likely questions of lashon horah, mavazeh talmedei chachamims, tzinius,etc are nuanced.
In theory, every business has the potential to encounter issues of halacha but that doesn’t mean you need to pay some rebbe to set around during business hours in case you have a shaylah. Many food establishments have gone out of business, in part because of the high cost of keep a mashgiach on the payroll.. If a media company has some issue arise, send an email, text or just call your rav/posek and ask if some comment might be construed as lashon haroah or some photo might cross the line on matters of tziniu.
Does a real ben torah who shteigs all week, goes to mikvah every morning, foregoes a smart phone etc. but looks forward to several hours on Thursday nights at the local gourmet chulent venue with his chavrusah qualify as a “foodie”? This whole tread seems to imply there is a bright line test on both “ehrliche” and “foodie” defined to a large extent on when induling in certain earthly “pleasures” become “excessive”.
Too much angst about the ehrliche cousins or chashuve rabbonim who somehow cannot ever seem to get their acts together, and allow enough time for traffic et. al. so they can arrive on time. Better to delay hundreds of people, stress out th already stressed chasan/kalah etc. and just get started rather than c’v having to explain to cousin mordechai or some rebbele why you started without them. Answer is simple, as we bring down from chazal, “TIME WAITS FOR ON ONE”…
Sadly, putting the newspaper into a shaimos bin at the beis medrash may be the same as putting into the blue recycling bin at the curb. There have been so many recent episodes of bags of shaimos turning up near landfills, in abandoned rental trucks or simply strewn on the street.
If the Ebeshter did not want us to experience “pleasure” from ingesting great food separate from the physiological need for nutrition, why did he wire our nervous system and sensory organs so that such “pleasure ” messages get sent from mouth to brain???
For a younger couple (in their late teens) its probably better for the boy’s parents to meet their future daughter-in-law since boys of this age may be impulsive and would benefit from parental advice.. For boys in the 20s and 30s, maybe less important.
Having seen many chashuve rabbonim and poskim engaging in dinner events that were NOT tied directly to a seudas mitzvah and went far beyond what one might opine was necessary for sustenance, its fair to speculate that they were not worrying about risking their share of olam haboh or otherwise engaging in bitul torah by simply having a good meal.
Very fact specific….too many scheduled visits and overbooking in many cases simply as basic economics for small practices trying to meet “quotas” to cover their costs. Unscheduled emergency visits or patients with more complex issues add to the delays since their is no “free time” built into the schedule.
To DellEpson;
First of all yasher koach on Dell announcing this AM it will do a reverse merger with vM Ware, with the surviving company taking the Dell name so you may need to update your posting name.
Second, you are right on with respect to how much easier it is to maintain your yiddeshkeit while living in Zimbawe or Antarctica w/o having all the sinas chinam so pervasive within ostensibly “frum” communities as our day-to-day environment.
“You’re not supposed to understand chumash at your age the way you understood it at three. A primitive understanding of the avos should not serve as your yardstick for life…”
Actually, I am a great believer in the admonition from chazal that “everything you need to know in life, you learned in kindergarden”…….it also lends credence to the commonly encountered phenomena that “Your Gashmiyus Is My Ruchniyus” whether on food or any other indulgence that doesn’t involve shteiging 24×7Yehuda: Several GOP Congressman who were among the most strident opponents of voting rights for felons (which is primarily a STATE issue) are now themselves felons
Hey Charlie…..we now have Yosef and Binyamin (rather than Milhouse) to kick around…I remember a similar debate about 7 or 8 years ago about the wisdom of substituting the advice of a rav for that of a medical professional. Fake news then, fake news now….rabbonim paskin Halacha and give musar, doctors paskin diagnostic and treatment protocols.
Have fun lurking
[being a Foodie]… is a secular hedonistic expression which contradicts the mitzva of Kedoshim T’hiyue.”
As the resident expert in all forms of ” secular hedonistic expression” (at least from Joe’s perspective) I can assure you that we have had “foodies” among gadoylei yisroel for generations. We can even go back to the avos and remind ourselves that a certain “son” sought to gain favor with his father by exploiting his yearning for good food.
There are many “real” fruits (aka boreh peri h’aetz) at reasonable prices available in your local supermaket.,…the fixation on dried fruis to some extent is a residual of generations past when “fresh fruit” was not readily available in the winter months
Joe says that literacy in the English language shouldn’t be relevant to voting rights for the frum tzibur and they should be allowed to participte in selecting our public officials notwithstanding their inability to communicate in the English langauge and for many of them, making zero economic contribution to the economy. However, his hero, the Trumpkopf in Chief, has insisted we need to prioritize access to America to those who speak English, want to assimilate into our society and contribute to our economy. So I guess, Joe will be overjoyed if they start rounding up those in can’t speak English and refuse to work and start shipping them back to the Alte Heim so we can make room in Monsey,BP, Willy and Lakewood for some more productive Norwegians.
A tallis katan with tzitzis 70 cm THICKNESS would require a crane to lift since that is about the size of the heavy lines used by big ships to tie them to the docks….
If any Rav runs out of a chassanah screaming “pritzus” because the Chassan/Kalah sat next to one another in front of hundreds of guests at the chassanah, I think we all know who has a problem. (Hint: its not the chasson or the kalah or the photographer).