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Yes…and in many of these cases, the poster doesn’t even have the derech eretz to lead with an “OT” header so the reader is alerted to post an equally irrelevant response.
“….Donald trump is a direct shliach from Hashem to run the USA…”
Hey Sammy….its just rosh chodesh +1 and you’ve already started the marbin b’simcha shtick….so if the Trumpkopf is the Ebeshter’s “direct shaliach” to manage the USA, then it follows that any efforts to impeach him would be mamash apikorsus and if that was followed by criminal charges once he leaves office, than we would see the fire and lightning from Himmel descending on the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York.
Anyway, my suggestion would be for you to go back to the YWN archives and study Trolling 101 by reviewing the 100 Best Joseph Trolls and other tutorial materials because postings like this “shalicah from Hashem” meshugaas won’t get you much reaction. Much hatzlacha in your efforts to get some notice as a Trumpkopf Troll.Yosselah: You say that photos are OK but, “the image of the one who is not male should be photoshopped out of her picture…” Huhhh…..so if a guy wants to see a photo of the girl someone wants to set him up with, she should send the picture but photoshop out her face and only show her picture from the shoulders down. Why bother with such a photo. Otherwise, what are you saying……perhaps you mean that if the photo includes her little sister as well, she should photoshop out her sister. If someone is looking for a shiduch and he/she is going to include a photo with their introduction letter/resume I’m assuming he/she would go to a photographer to get a nice portrait photo and not send a group photo with her mishapacha or Seminary classmates.
We live in a real world where the large percentage of young men and women DO care about the “looks” of their prospective spouse and that is unlikely to change. We can pontificate about how “looks shouldn’t matter” and “its only whats inside the person that counts”. However, given that people do care, it makes sense to ask for a photo in advance of the first date rather than showing up and finding a date a foot taller/shorter or really obese or dressing in a matter that shows little respect for either oneself or the person you are meeting with.
There are a variety of meforshim who offer similiar explainations that adding the extra month during Adar in a lunar calendar cycle is because chodesh Nisan is the “beginning” of the months making chodesh Adar the last, and chodesh Tishri the seventh month. Thus, logically, given the need to keep the lunar calendar in cycle with the seasonal cycles of the Gregorian calendar, we add the “extra” month after the last month (aka Adar rishon and the extra Adar sheni).
Apparently, all of the yiddeshe lunar calendars distributed by the mosdos in their annual fundraising appeals were wrong and rosh chodesh adar rishon really began at noon on January 20, 2017 since there is now substantial evidence showing that a large portion of the frumme tzibur began marbin b’simcha at that hour and have exceeded any possible inyan of adsheloyadah since that time judging by their collective political and social commentary posted on discussion blogs, social media etc. The actual duration of such such an “extended” leap month (measured in years under Gregorian Calenar standards) is unknown.
Even if your dancing, you don’t carry much cash beyond a few singles for tips. otherwise, keep a credit card in your pocket that you can have with you all the time.. Not rocket science.
Uncle Benny…you are right….more important to share jokes about excessive drinking than to highlight efforts of rabboniim to curtail some of the craziness. I’m sure you and yours have a SAFE purim since you don’t see any value in “finger wagging”…..No one is suggesting going “dry” on Purim and I’m certain some of our usual poskim would shriek its apikorsus to even suggest some limitations. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on responsible drinking, but of course excluding any strategy involving your digits…
LH seems to have some obsession with Hitler comparisons and only devalues his comments with his hyperbole. No need to comment further. As to YWN coverage, the readership of this site, while highly diverse in their views and outlook are almost universally capable of sorting out the pop culture and general news interest stuff from somehow coming away with the notion that intermarriage or other behaviors contrary to halacha are being “endorsed” by being covered here.
Hopefully, this year, we will see a bit less of the mindless equivalence of “Simcha” with “inebriation” . All the leaders of Hatazalah organizations here and in EY have made clear that the “marbin” some invoke to drink excessively in the days leading up to Purim and especially on Purim itself sets up tragic outcomes. Fortunately, more rabbonim each year take clear and unequivocal stands against the “adsheloyadah syndrome” and admonish their talmidim to strictly limit their intake. Lets hope this year there will be more responsibility exercised along with Simcha machers.
Other than leaving one or two dollars in your coat pocket for convenience to tip the person in the coat room or the guy outside doing the valet parking (only at some of the Simcha halls I’ve been to), who in their right mind would leave money in their coat pockets?? Also sounds a bit weird that “everyone knows” who is the ganif (and her mental problems) but no one has taken any steps to intervene.
” If your hocking with a female on ywn, what will stop you from hocking with someone at the office water cooler.
Haimy: perhaps you should not be c’v “working” in an office with a water cooler since we all know watercooler schmoozing is the source of much of the pritzus in the secular world. Thats why many mashgichim don’t allow bochurim to place a water bottle on a shtender in the beis medrash since it is such a slippery slope…
In case you haven’t noticed, we likely have some bi-postal posters who raise totally different halachic issues. As a practical matter though, a single-gender forum would be more of an echo chamber than the vibrant exchange of ideas and thoughts that we have… a virtual varbeshe section behind a firewall of sorts would be considerably less stimulating.
Did you ever consider that some posters are secretly compensated for every new thread they start in order to elicit more new threads expressing “gevalt” about the duplication. Such thread-multipliers are awarded lots of free stuff from the advertisers here on YWN (half-off coupons for Chulent Night, free admission to Uncle Moishe’s chol haomed concerts, one hour free consultation with a leading Lakewood shadchan, one of the new “budget” borselinos, etc.).
Avram. You should make a new rosh chodesh minhag and travel around the country in a chabad-style mitzvah tank and every rosh chodesh visit a new shlachthois to be certain that all the shochtim have the opportunity to wear teffilin….this would be a considerably more heilege minhag than your current peekaboo/jump minhag
Build that wall!!!! ….and make the poskim from Yeshiva Chovevei Torah (in Riverdale) responsible for its construction so we are certain that everyone (of any intellectual height) can see through it
It depends on how you are using the term “efficiency”. The electrici energy input to an electric space heater is converted primarily into heat with some of the power also converted into light and kinetic energy (both of which would also contribute to warming the room). Also remember that generating electricity itself is highly ineffiient as compared to alternative direct combutstionheating sources such as natural gas. When many people ask about “efficiency” they are using the term less as an thermal engineering metric but rather in a layman’s sense as to which type of space heater will make you feel warmer most quickly and at least cost
As Akuperma notes, blame it all on Edison….in the alte heim, once it was dark, everyone when to sleep reasonably soon thereafter because there was no CR to post in, and you had to be up at 4:30 to 5:00 am to either daven vasikim, milk-the-cows, or both. Overall, technology has vastly improved the quality of our lives is most but not all areas. LB’s excellent posting above explains the negatives in re sleep.
Sam….you seem to dismiss the reality that every on of us needs to do our own work in terms of taking care of physical well being, doing whatever we can to de-stress our lives and accept whatever brachos we may be fortunate to receive from tzadikim. Yes, the Ebeshter ultimately governs what happens in the world but to mindlessly dismiss personal responsibility and obligations is the real apikorsus.
Winnie…it really depends on what you are trying to achieve. Do you want to heat the space in a large room or do you you want a person in that space to feel warm?? If the fomer. any of the oil-filled radiators will do a good job although it will take a while . Some of the higher-end ceramic heaters also do the job but not as efficiently (cost-wise). However, if a person i trying to keep warm in a cold room, a glass or two of a good mid-range scotch will do the job at a considerably lower cost than heating the entire room with a space heater.
I was there last fall before the current round of “yellow vest” demonstrations but there were still virtually nonstop demonstrations and work stoppages against Macron and his economic reforms albeit at a smaller scale. Such demonstrations are part of the socal fabric of Paris and have become the norm. In most cases, they are short-term, loud but very peaceful albeit frequently inconvenient. Think of it in terms of Peleg blockades in downtown yerushalyim but substitute farmers and tractors rather than guys in yeshiva lvush. The first 2-3 weeks of the current round of yellow vest demonstrations attracted some anarchist fringe groups who did some window breaking, throwing garbage etc.. (sound familiar?) but in general, the demonstrations over the past few weeks have been peaceful not especially disruptive to the city center tourist districts.
Is it not worse for some “towns” and “neighborhoods” to post signs on public streets demanding that women must walk on a certain side of the street and/or specifying what THEIR interpretation of hilchos tzinus requires? In some cases, municipalities have defied court orders to remove such signs out of fear of “offending” certain fringe elements of the Chareidi taibur. (Obviously I am not referring to 5T in this regard) Yes, women should exercise common sense and dress appropriately for the circumstances and venue, even if that is not their own hashkafah but there is no legal basis to attempt to enforce tzinius on a public streets, even if some non-religious seem to show total lack of respsect. With regard to this thread, I have been in 5T many times (both for shabbosim and during the week) and just haven’t seen anything that comes close to the flagrant and pervasive disregard of tzinius that some have described here. Fake news.
English Speaking: You assert that “people are probably lazier nowadays” as the root cause of irregular sleeping patters. I would submit that the pressures of trying to deal with all the conflicting obligations families have today with davening, school, after-school activities, taking care of older-parents and many two working parents in some cases holding two jobs means crazy hours. I wouldn’t call this “laziness”.
As compared to learning from what?? your question is a bit uncelar. What are the “unhealthy” aspects of learning from artscroll seforim?
Perhaps your mother is sort of old-fashioned and prefers you not find a shidduch until you have a get from your current wife.
Whichever one the the ehrliche yid who started the 5T tzinius thread doesn’t live or work in.
Mariana provides a great checklist of food supplements and personal hygiene tips that may help ward off the comone cold or reduce its affects. However, RY seems to be in search of a serious heimeshe cure that has both medicinal and spiritual properties. In that regard, there is only one option: a cold chulunt salad made with lots of Thursday night leftovers from the yeshiva dorm lounge refrigerator mixed with several fresh garlic cloves and lots of sweeeeeet ungarishe kugel. Add a few parsely leaves to complete the green “salad” and be assured of your immunity from the “common” cold. However, there is no long-term clinical data as to possible gastronomic and cardiovascular side effects,.
“whenever my relative from the 5towns comes for a simcha we cringe over how she will be dressed.
Haimy: Based on your comments here and elsewhere, I submit there is a reasonable liklhood that when your “5T relative” plans on coming over for a simcha on shabbos, she probably begins having anxiety attacks by Mitvoch or Donershtik. Perhaps your sister-in-law or cousin is a regular CR reader and now understands why the ganz mishpacha stares at her from the time she walk in to the simcha hall and finds she is seated at a “special” table in the kitchen..
To some of those living in Willy, BP or other crowded Brooklyn neighborhoods, 5T may seem OOT but it really has it all from the perspective of a frum couple or family seeking to relocate but stay close to real world, Housing is expensive but not much more so than those “in-town” neighborhoods. I don’t think any our friends or family in 5T really care about what some armchair poskim on an internet thread have to say about their frumkeit or pervasive problems with tzinius on the streets of their neighborhood.
Lost in this thread is that it has become considerably easier for a baas yisroel to find clothing that is both fashionable and affordable. The issue in many of these threads is the constant drumbeat by men to become the fashion/tzinius dayanim for women outside their immediate family and sometimes seek to impose their values on others in inappropriate ways. Fortunately, we have not seen the abusive behavior by self-anointed tzinius police here in 5T or other frum U.S. communities as we have seen in several Chareidi neighborhoods.
So Winnie, why not start a “serious” thread about the growing number of trolling threads related to the shidduch crisis??
Most discussion boards have their resident trolls….they provide comic relief and occasionally keep things going during slow periods when most posters have better things to do with their lives.
I’ve been to EY frequently (both business and vacation) and I’ve heard “Kol Tov” expression quite frequently as well as in telephone conversations. Its the “mochel me” line that I have NOT heard and was asking about.
Even in the really frum yeshivos, there seems to be a greater focus onbasic teaching and communication skills for the rebbeim involved in limudei kodesh so to that extent, things have improved. Many yeshivos are also trying to alert teachers to behavioral signs among their tamidim that may warrant intervention so that too is a net positive. I’m not sure you will find any way to validate your observation, which I fully agree with, other than anecdotal comments.
Avi K: Would you explain the frequent use of the “do you mochel me” idiom??? In what context does it make sense in casual conversation? thanks
Hey Haimy…..what is a “typical” single guy or single girl?? Specifically, what attributes make them “typical”??
The phrase Kol tov is not all that uncommon in casual conversatios in EY. However, I’m not sure what the “do you mochel me ” stuff is all about and seems very odd even in a yeshivish context. What may he have done to you that warrants repeated requests for mechilah?
In accordance with kaballah, a virtual “troll” is a mythical, cave-dwelling CR Poster frequently depicted in folklore as either a giant or a dwarf, typically having a very ugly appearance and capable of seemingly endless expressions of contrarian viewpoints on just about everything. There are some very good anti-troll apps available for downloading at the Itunes store.
By foregoing a veggie-based chulent (using yummy seitan, tempeh or tofu meat substitutes) you are missing out on one of the greatest culinary treats given to us by the Ebeshter. Forget about the big mitzvah of tikun olam which will guarantee you a big chelek of olam haboh (where you will be able to eat the real thing forever….)
Bisboy: Move to Utah, change your name to Reb Gershon and start a polygamous chassidus.
To those who attribute the shidduch crisis to the increasing “independence” of seminary girls et. al. who learn to have their own opinions and are able to assess a bochur as a potential life-partner, I would view this as a net positive but I suspect that would not be the consensus view here among those who conflate independence and secular education among jewish women with “feminism”.
To FSM:
I suspect there would be a long line, whether in 5T or Bnai Brak or anywhere to interview for the position of Official Thorn Inspector who is tasked by the tzibur to identify the Roses amidst the Thorns and provide a friendly pashkavil to the latter reminding them of the obligations of a baas yisroel with resepect to tzinius. On the more practical side, such a position would probably be deemed illegal by the local courts as a civil rights violation.Avocado:
How do you check out the “working boys world”? Is there some dating website for kollel yungerleit called workingboysvelt.com ???
Another aspect of these threads that stands out is the absence of any really verifiable data on the subject. Lots of anecdotal observations but little emperical data.
Given that there are approximately 2 million frum yidden in the world, roughly half of whom are women, is is really surprising that there are “thousands” of young women (aka “younger girls”) that remain unmarried at any point in time. Ideally, every young woman who wants to be married should be fortunate to find her bashert but after reading nearly 100 posts on this thread (and a gazillion of other threads) its still not clear what “singles rate” constitutes a “crisis” and when we will know when the crisis has been solved (other than when there are no new CR threads on the subject over a 3 month period).
I think all the posts point to the same conclusion as to the wisdom of investing in a yiddeshe version of a “Field of Dreams” shteitel. You can build it but they won’t necessarily come. Caveat emptor!!
Here we go again with the “bitul torah” madness. Even if the bochurim could be chained to their shtenders and shteig 24×7, their rabbonim, the guys who clean the beis medrash and the dorms, the women who prepare and serve the food in the cafteria, etc. etc. need some time off with their families.
I’ve never been a big fan of a certain former DINO state assemblyman but about an hour or two ago, @DovHikind tweeted as follows:
“….I applaud the NYS legislature for passing the “Child Victims Act”. It’s a new day for victims of abuse who can now get a measure of justice. But it’s only the first step on a long path to healing”
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Reb Yid is correct. Girls need time on sundays to learn “practical” skills such as learning when to usea “horizontal pot” versus “vertical pot” to cook a treif chicken and the importance of removing the plastic bag with the liver and other yucky “stuff” packaged inside the frozen whole chickens before placing them in the oven.
On weekdays, I think the most significant factor in minyan choices are the modern realities of scheduling for work and family. Obviously, if you have to be at work at a certain time and rely upon scheduled public transportation or have to pick up kids or drive car pool later in the afternoon or be home in time to be with the family for dinner and homework, someone davening from the amud who shows off his chazanus at weekday minyanim or waits for everyone to finish the amidah can be frustrating.
Not clear if your question refers to a property where you plan to live and are considering its long-term resale value or you are looking at such a property purely as an investment. Clearly, you NEVER put your life savings into any single asset or asset class and you want to maintain a diversifid portfolio. However, if you have a long-enough time horizon and have sufficient funds, no reason not to purchase such a property if you are reasonably confident about the future growth opportunities. However, if this is purely a financial investment, why does it matter whether the area is “an up and coming jewish communihy” or just any community with growth potential.
Presumably, if their liumdei kodesh ciriculum is lighter, they can complete their secular studies in the usual weekday hours. Some girls’ schools use Sundays for field trips or other types of optional programs.