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  • in reply to: Answers for the tuition crisis #1687481
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    The other option is to form a coaltion with other private school groups and seek to gradually expand the very narrow slice of school expenses (security, transportation, special needs kids, etc.) where the courts have allowed public funds to be expended in support of private schools. I’m doubtful, however, that this will provide the needed funding to keep marginal yeshivos afloat. Thats why the painful choice of cutting costs (where most say there is nothing left to cut) is the only other choice to closing the doors.

    in reply to: Answers for the tuition crisis #1687472
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    Yeshivos/DY: You agree that parents have been tapped out in terms of what they can afford to pay and the political likelihood of any near-term increase in public sector subsidies is very small. For any business, if your revenues cannot cover your expenses you have the option of floating debt to be purchased by those who believe the world will change in the future and you will have the revenues to pay back the loans (perhaps with interest), ask your employees and vendors to accept lower compensation (aka cut pay for teachers etc) or find other ways of cutting costs (fewer hours of instruction, limit new admissions if they don’t cover marginal costs, etc.) Its economics 101….cut costs or increase revenues (or pay your bills in a new heimeshe yptocurrency endorsed by rabbonim and see if you can find enough yidden to accept it in lieu of dollars)

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1687367
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    Try to visualize the shiduch police rounding up all the unmarried singles in town,, dragging them into the shul or Simcha hall, , pairing them up based on some undefined matching criteria and forcibly detaining them until after kiddushin. and shevah barachos. were completed when. the dazed couples were sent home to begin their lives together. Sound like something out of the made up horror show called joseph’s purim spiel

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1687366
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    Try to visualize the shiduch police rounding up all the unmarried singles in town,, dragging them into the shul or Simcha hall, , pairing them up based on some undefined matching criteria and forcibly detaining them until after kiddushin. and shevah barachos. were completed when. the dazed couples were sent home to begin their lives together. Sound like something out of the made up horror show called joseph’s purim spiel

    in reply to: DIY security sytems #1687276
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    Talk with your local police. in most cases, they will recommend a professionally installed hard-wired system on new construction (where the cost of running the cables through the framing is relatively modest compared with the snaking and drywall repair on existing structures. Even if you go for the new new wireless systems, the installation of the window, door and glass-break sensors is important and a professional might cost a bit more but will provide you with more reliable service of the long-term.

    in reply to: Compliment your spouse! #1687274
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    “….Its been said that one should compliment their spouse …” (spouse=wife based on cooking reference)

    Said by whom??? Reb Yosef, resident posek and troll here in the CR, brings down from chazal several times a week why wives should be at home in the kitchen dressed in in at least a hijab taking care of their children, having more children and serving their husband’s whims…..to complement them would risk diverting their attention from their primary focus in life which is to make the husband happy

    in reply to: Answers for the tuition crisis #1687249
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    “The only other viable idea I’ve seen is a communal tax and that also has serious flaws…
    If a yid is already paying income and property taxes for local public schools he probably will not send his kids to and also is paying tuition to send his kids to a yeshiva/beis Yaakov, having to pay a “communal tax” ordered by some beis din is more likely a bad Purim spiel rather than a serious proposal. The other reality is to scale back the scope of spending by the Mosdos to match their combined tuition/donation income. That may be a painful choice for some, but its reality.

    in reply to: Answers for the tuition crisis #1686302
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    In the near-term, there may be some additional security/transportation/special ed type functions where public funds can be applied to private and religious schools but there is zero political support for school vouchers in support of tuition, at least in those states (NY, N J, MD, CA ) where the majority of yidden are located. Maybe Florida, but even there it will be an uphill fight beyond the limited vouchers already provided. The only long-term solution is for Yidden to budget for their kids’ tuition in the same way they budget for housing, clothing and other essential expenses. Since most frum yidden would not find “public” schools to be an option, there is no easy or direct source of funding beyond contributions from wealthy askanim and families’ own funding.

    in reply to: advanced technology? #1686259
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    Writer….you grossly overstate the reality. Obviously, any connectivity to the internet poses risk but there equally are ways in which a smartphone user can mitigate (although not eliminate) some of those risks. There are lots of resources available explaining how to operate more securely and restricting the ability of various apps and websites to monitor your movements, activities and share data you don’t want to share. If many choose not to avail themselves of those tools, then its their problem and they should be prepared for the consequences of their passivity and foolishness.

    in reply to: Answers for the tuition crisis #1686227
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    There are 2 or 3 organizations that serve to intermediate financial aid requests by parents of boys and girls attending yeshivos so that confidential financial data/documents doesn’t have to be provided directly to the administrative staff of the yeshiva and could be embarrassing to the parents. In many cases, the yeshiva’s admin staff may daven or move in the same social circles as the parents. These organizations audit and verify the documents and suggest suitable levels of financial assistance based on some standard guidelines (e.g. percentage of income, family size, etc.) Hopefully, more yeshivos will implement these types of arrangements.

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1686186
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    Joseph: Unless Reb Chaim is suffering from dementia (which itself is grounds for nullificaiton of a chassanah), if he doesn’t want to marry Shaindel, or Suralah, or Chanalah or whomever, no Beis Din will make him marry. You can fantasize or troll about the theoretical authority of a beis din, but in the real world, we don’t force a marriage on unwilling partners.

    in reply to: Why do Yeshiva not pay their Rabbes and Teachers on time? #1686131
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    Yeshivos are no different from any other business or mosdos. Their good works do not excuse them from both halachic requirements and labor law obligations to pay their employees in full and on a timely basis. In rare circumstances, there might be a situation where meeting a payroll on time is impossible but even then, payment to teachers (and support staff) should be prioritized over other payments and employees should be given advance warning that checks may be a few days late.

    in reply to: Is Trump the GOAT(Greatest of All Time) #1686090
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    Actually, more accurate to characterize incumbent POTUS as the northbound end of a goat heading southbound…otherwise known by the yiddish acronmym of a שװאַנץ.

    As we have been learning in recent months, much of the acomplishments are superficial and show with only limited long-term sustainability while the loss to our national and international standing is very real and damaging. Yes, he has done some good things, but they could have been accomplished without the polarization, demonetization and vulgarity that has become his legacy.

    in reply to: advanced technology? #1685862
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    Several of the postings above correctly note the tension between maintaining anonymity and privacy while taking advantage of the convenience and access to information provided by the internet. Unless you want to live in a cave and engage in barter transactions its impossible to avoid some confidential data leakage to the internet but there are numerous ways (some noted above) to minimize your risks.

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1685840
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    Joseph: Yup, that and others that you frequently misrepresent, distort out of context or otherwise fabricate. But don’t let that get in the way of your otherwise entertaining flow of new “provocative” postings.

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1685598
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    Rebbitzen: Yes, of course a Rav today can impose legitimate conditions on whether and when and where he will be mesader kiddushin for a couple , insist they show an understanding of certain areas of halacha and approve of the hashgacha at the simcha hall but he cannot tell them to delay their wedding until his daughter and a few of her unmarried friends much less all the single girls in the senior class a the local Beis Yaakov have found their beschert. I’m sure he could try to impose such a policy but he will be rightfully be ignored by the vast majority of frum yidden who will take their business elsewhere.

    in reply to: Why don’t we go like the Slabodka mehalech in regards to clothes? #1685554
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    Perhaps its time to stop the focus on such insignificant measures of a yid’s commitment to Yiddishkeit and daas torah as the color of his shirt or the style of hat. Yes, there are halachos that cover every aspect of our lives but the issue of lvush has taken on a significance way beyond any rational justification compared with one’s midos, day-to-day behavior, compassion for the less fortunate etc.

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1685557
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    Rebbitzen….giving your provocative suggestion (aka troll) the benefit of the doubt, I’d just call it a misguided and uninformed proposal that is infeasible, indefensible and most likely contrary to daas torah and halacha. Rabbonim can assist in the shiduch process, a beis din can adjudicate commitments related to the initiation and termination of a marriage but in todays world (Joey nothwithstanding) a beis din cannot dictate who marries who much less restrict others from marrying the person of their choice.

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1685257
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    “Beis Din has the right to force people to get married. This is a bfeirush Halacha…”

    Yussela…..do I have a girl for you….and if you have any reservations, we can get a psak from the Beis Din ordering you to make a chassanah but leaving to your discretion who will be mesader kiddushin..

    in reply to: A Solution: Finding Shidduchim (aka “Shidduch Crisis”) #1685081
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    Mod 29: If you can get a drivers’s license in New York beginning next year by checking a third gender box (“X” or uncommitted) it is only right that a trolling rebitzen should be accorded the same gender anonymity

    in reply to: Robocalls for Various Tzedakas #1685012
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    “People feel obligated to give a tzdekah who calls them up, no matter what the cause….”

    People may feel obligated to do lots of questionable stuff but its borderline meshugah to give a credit card donation to some schneurer calling blind over the phone with a “heimeshe accent” claiming to be collecting for yesomim on behalf of some modsos you’ve never heard and likely doesn’t exist. Even if the guy shows up at your doorsteop motzi shabbos with a laminated “hechsher letter” from a rav you’ve heard of, I would still not give a dime without doing more checking since such letters have been known to be copied and forged. Best to give a check/credit card donation directly to through your shul, beis medrash or through someone you’ve confirmed is reputable. Obviously, not a concern when some of the local yeshiva boys/girls come around with a pushka asking for a donation but once you get into any serious dollars, the answer should generally be NO w/o further due dilligence.

    in reply to: Yeshivas: maximizing enrollment vs maximizing quality #1684889
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    Keeping ALL stuidents out of school to resolve the school assignment/acceptance issues for a small number of students having difficulty finding a match make no sense. You don’t fix the problem by holding a gun to the heads of parents who have zero ability to fix the problem by keeping their kids from learning, creating enormous disruption to their daily lives since most work and have no alternative day care arrangements etc. You are not going to build new classrooms overnight and temporary trailer classrooms on school athletic field or parking lots may not be an option in crowded urban locations. Perhaps consider some hybrid arrangement using the public schools on a limited basis so the kids get a mimimal amount of secular instruction and organize interim afternoon programs at shuls and other mosdos for limudei torah for a few weeks until some additional space can be found at regular yeshivos. Again, many frum parents may not want their kids to attend a “public” school even for a few weeks and would rather teach them at home until a desk opens at a local yeshiva.

    in reply to: being late to davening #1684833
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    Uncle Ben: Me too….I was wondering about that guy with the quizzical look on his face hanging around the small beis medrash for the past 7 years where we have the mincha minyanim on weekdays trying to get the Rav’s attention

    in reply to: Yeshivas: maximizing enrollment vs maximizing quality #1684676
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    As we have noted on multiple threads and multiple times, a school is ultimately a business that must raise sufficient revenues through tuition and donations to cover the costs of chinuch. Up to a certain point where the school has open desks and class sizes are not too high, there is very little incremental costs incurred by adding more students but when that point is reached, either they have to find additional revenue stream and additional physical facilities or stop accepting new admissions. Diluting the quality of education for students already enrolled just to accept more students is unfair to everyone.

    in reply to: Robocalls for Various Tzedakas #1684675
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    “How do they get the phone numbers of frum people??”

    Unfortunately, frum yidden are no more immune to the same issues as the general population. Many frum mosdos such as shuls and yeshivos maintain contact listings with names, addresses and phone numbers for members, students etc. Also, fund raising groups frequently exchange or sell their mailing lists with the telephone numbers of those who have previously donated. Even some frum businesses keep ohone listings of customers which are not always maintained on a confidential basis.

    in reply to: being late to davening #1684625
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    BTW….why would you be saying tehillim during chatzi kadish in the first place? Maybe I’m missing something.

    in reply to: good fast food place in jerusalem? #1684481
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    OJbochur: Is there a website (name only/no URL) that you think has a good listing of “good hechsherim” for fast food places in EY and that is also updated frequently….??

    in reply to: good fast food place in jerusalem? #1684455
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    The fast food places seem to change hashgachos more frequently than higher-end places so that I would always check in advance. Problem is that many have very simple websites advertising “kosher” without identifying the name of the rav ha’machshir or the specific hashgacha. I’ve even seen places with a te’udah in the window with the name of a Rav who was niftar years ago.

    in reply to: USA ANTISEMITISM #1684331
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    Its a global issue and not just Trump-related hyperbole here in the U.S. (although its not helping when those arrested by the FBI invoke his symbolism and rhetoric). The biggest concern here in America is the growth of anti-Semitism among younger groups who think they are being supportive of “oppressed” groups but are unwittingly endorsing blatantly anti-Israel/anti-Semitic rhetoric. Just about every “progressive” demonstration or march these days seems to have some obligatory Palestinian rights group or banner regardless of how unrelated the theme of that demonstration or march may be. Its becoming pervasive and must be addressed head-on.

    in reply to: Moderators abuse their power? #1684326
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    Writer…..Mods sometimes allow an entire megillah to be posted when brevity might have made the same points more efficiently. Point was made that under the CR posting guidelines, SEVERAL of the factors I cited as to why a post might be deleted have to do with its length so hamayvin yavin.

    in reply to: Moderators abuse their power? #1684044
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    Writer: Perhaps consider the virtues of brevity from a Mod’s perspective….as they say ” Long posts are difficult to moderate….. breaking up long posts into several shorter ones might help…..it is easier to delete a post than to edit it…”

    in reply to: wearing perfume #1684039
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    Not sure what world some of these posters are living in but sales of perfume have gone way down over the past decade as fewer and fewer young women show interest in fragrances of any sort. At the outset, most colleges and workplaces have explicit policies discouraging the use of any perfumes, deodorants/body oils with strong fragrances etc. because as someone noted above, many people have strong allergic reactions. Even more so, most millennials today surveyed simply don’t feel they either want or need such enhancements and prefer very limited natural/organic cosmetics in general. This “husband” sounds like he has considerably more serious issues than olfactory tzinus concerns.

    in reply to: good fast food place in jerusalem? #1684037
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    Moshiko’s on rachov Ben Yehuda for Falafel

    Burgers Bar on rachov Shamai for all sorts of Burgers

    Pepito’s in Machane Yehuda market for latin/Spanish street food

    in reply to: Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama? #1683443
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    1: You are entirely correct that the wasted time, inaction, kvetching, uncertainty or slow-motion movements on the bimah make the tzibur restless and invite the schmoozing and shushing. Its probably unrealistic to expect the davening, kariyah, mi sheberachs, derasha etc. to move along like clockwork, permanently ban any shaliach tzibur who thinks he is Moshe Koussevitzky and for the rav to get directly to the point of his dvar torah but certainly, some acceleration in the current pace of the davening would reduce (albeit not eliminate) the schmoozing and shushing. I was at one shul where after the chazaras hashatz and while the gabboim were getting the sefer on the bimah after pesicha, the Rav got up, wished everyone a gutten shabbos, asked everyone to wish the same to those sitting nearby and allowed about 2-3 minutes for everyone to complete their “critical communications” before putting their mouths into “silent mode” until after davening.

    in reply to: Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama? #1683381
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    Why is it that some are groping for haalachic reasons why schmoozing is “ok” and “shushing” is nekama. Putting halacha aside (figuratively of course), there are situations in daily secular life where you wouldn’t engage in schmoozing during certain public events……common sense alone dictates not to schmooze during davening, kariyas hatorah, kiddushin or the Rav’s darasha……of lesser concern is not to disrupt the guy sharing his tasting notes on the new single malt Scotch being poured at the kiddush club

    in reply to: Saving shul seats, sidurrim for others not yet here #1683229
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    Rebyossel: It depends on which jurisdiction you are in and attempting to park in a spot where there is another yid attempting to exercise chazakah over a public parking space for his Shver who is still 20 minutes away. In general, if you can gently ease into the space and push him up on the curb with your front fender without inflicting injury, you can avoid criminal liability. However in Utah, Alabama, Kentucky and the District of Columbia, the initial contact between your vehicle and the parkingspotsitter could put you in public housing (aka the local jail).

    in reply to: Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama? #1683227
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    For the past year or two, there is a constant series of video ads here on YWN with the header “Stop the Talking in Shul”. No question that the pervasive chattering is a big problem and getting worse. Its also been noted here sarcastically that the Conservative shuls seem to do a better job of maintaining a quiet and respectful atmosphere then the frum shuls. Thus, there is clearly a need for shushers, although having the gabbai klop on his shtender may sometimes have more effect than some Balabusta doing a loud shush from the ezrash nashim.

    in reply to: Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama? #1683188
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    Its only considered retaliation if you preface your shush with an even louder “Gut Shabbos Malkie” and then wishing the shusher a refuah shelamah for her “issues”.

    in reply to: What music do you listen to while exercising? #1683174
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    Coffee Adict:

    ex·er·cise: cardiovascular activity requiring physical effort, carried out to sustain or improve health and fitness such as accelerated movement from the Kiddush club room outside the beis medrash to the larger Simcha hall where the real Kiddush is being served after davening

    in reply to: What music do you listen to while exercising? #1683118
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    I think he stopped recording several years ago, but I’ve put together some really good workout playlists from some of the early vintage Lipa albums.

    in reply to: Chalav yisroel #1683086
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    Again, I suspect most CR readers are familiar with the sad history of attacks and counter-attacks regarding Rav Tendler (I’ll skip the “Dr.” and “YU fellow” stuff out of respect for you and the Rav), and his representations of what his shver, R’ Moishe Z”TL, said and the context of what he said. There are multiple CR threads on those exchanges. Nor did I find infallible the Agudah’s (Sherer, CDZ, etc.) efforts to impeach R’ Tendler. My post of that statement by R’ Tendler was an anecdotal comment on the entire cholov Yisroel thread for what its worth. You think not much based on its source. Others may disagree.

    in reply to: Chalav yisroel #1682778
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    There are certain thread topics that seem to have a resiliency that defies understanding and keep reappearing at regular intervals under slightly different headings. M’shenichnas Adar (rishon or sheini) marbim b’recycled CR threads.

    As to DY’s skepticism of Rav Tendler’s credibility, I’ll repeat my original admonition to take anything attributed to anonymous internet sources with a grain of salt. I happen to have great respect for Rav Tendler as a talmid chacham, scientist and ethicist while understanding others may disagree. On the narrow inyan of cholov Yisroel, there seem to be a number of others who hold by similar views of Rav Moishe’s original statements and practices.

    in reply to: Do illegal immigrants pose a health risk as they are unvaccinated. #1682761
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    HHS and CBP data indicate that over 95 percent of the “medical interventions” involving those crossing the border involve garden variety dehydration, broken limbs, sun exposure, routine infections readily treated with antibiotics etc. The incidence of highly communicable diseases is actually the same or lower than the general population and MUCH LOWER than those encountered for example by the Indian Health Service on U.S. Indiana Reservations (where Trump’s budget has sought to reduce spending).

    in reply to: Chalav yisroel #1682643
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    Neville: If you read carefully, I prefaced the story with the usual disclaimer about stories repeated on the internet BUT this particular attribution from Rav Tendler has been repeated/posted on multiple occasions. If you want to get into the whole Rav Tendler/?Rav Moishe Z;TL issues regarding credibility of Rav Tendler’s recollections of his father-in-law, save it for another thread.

    in reply to: Seminary in Israel an overrated luxury #1682530
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    What does the location of the seminary have to do with a shiduch??? If she can get the same or better chinuch at a seminary in the U.S. or UK, why would a prospective chosson care….in fact, that means the kalah’s family has more $$ to purchase a higher-end Rolex chosson watch.

    in reply to: Saving shul seats, sidurrim for others not yet here #1682003
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    pushatayid: And what baal simcha would knowingly schedule a simcha in a shtieblach with 40 seats that are full every shabbos if he know in advance that he has invited at least 25 additional guests who will be coming and there is no where to put them (other than in the kitchen, or the ezras nashim (and telling the latter to stand outside)

    in reply to: Saving shul seats, sidurrim for others not yet here #1681978
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    Can we all agree there is no “general” rule about saving seats…as CT lawyer correctly notes, its 100 percent local minhag. Having said that, there are certain non-legalistic concerns (for those whose property law 101 and 1L contract law credentials are dated or non-existant) that some feel should always apply relative to both the optics and common sense practices of “hoarding” seats, siddurim, food during Kiddush etc. Its not always what it appears so the advice to consult the gabbai or one of the daveners as to minhag ha’makom should guide your actions, and more importantly, your REACTIONS to the behavior of others.

    in reply to: Chalav yisroel #1681964
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    “Never seen a camel on the NY Thruway”
    In the category of “don’t always believe what you read on the internet”, the following comments were attributed to Rav Moishe’s son-in-law, Rav Tendler, on the occasions of Rav Moishe’s 25th yahrtzeit.

    Eating non-glatt kosher meat is not the only controversial stance Rav Moshe took. More famously, Rav Moshe ruled that all milk in the United States certified by the government as coming from a cow or other kosher animal is considered Chalav Yisrael. People still debate what Rav Moshe’s “true” opinion on the topic is, but, according to Ravi Tendler, “He meant exactly what he said. What he said was that we only drink Chalav Yisrael, but milk in America is Chalav Yisrael because the halacha says, ‘Im ein tamei b’edro’ – if the farmer does not have any non-kosher animals on his farm, then you don’t have to watch him. All you have to do is stay outside the farm to make sure no one comes in with a camel or a donkey.” , Rav Moshe argues that one may rely on government supervision to ensure that milk is kosher, but Rabbi Tendler said that in personal conversations, his father-in-law often stressed that dairy farmers in America simply do not have camels and other non-kosher animals on their premises. “He used to say to me, ‘We go to the Catskill Mountains on vacation; I never saw a camel. I never saw anybody milking a camel.’ We spoke about this very often and really in a kind of light mood. He didn’t understand what [his opponents] didn’t understand [and why they were attacking him].”

    Everyone in Rav Moshe’s house drank regular milk, Rabbi Tendler said, and the only reason Rav Moshe himself did not do so is because he did not want “to be mattir neder” – to formally change his lifelong practice, dating to the first 40 years of his life in Europe, of drinking “traditional” Chalav Yisrael”

    in reply to: Saving shul seats, sidurrim for others not yet here #1681912
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    We have a limited number of “sit down” tables at Kiddush at our shul since most daveners gulp down a piece of kugel and fish while standing and then run home to have lunch with their families. There is one table “reserved” for a “study group” for about 30 minutes and then benches. The other two tables are typically “reserved” for the older daveners who cannot stand easily. When someone has a big simcha (with a correspondingly bigger lunch buffet) we typically have enough tables for sit down.

    I’m still not sure I agree with CT Lawyer that a donation for a brass plaque on a bench and shtender gives one permanent chazakah when they are not there. In our shul, about half the benches have a brass plaque in memory of XYZ, but those seats are not treated as a makom kavuah.

    in reply to: Saving shul seats, sidurrim for others not yet here #1681608
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    I’m not sure I’ve ever been to a shul where they run out of siddurim but I’ve certainly seen the “seat saving” issue, especially around the yom tovim. The most popular “reservation” methodology is the old fashioned spreading of taalasim over the seats (which I find offensive for reasons other than the seat saving issue). As to saving seats at Kiddush, chazal bring down the inyan that a”makom kavuah” does not extend to fressing cholent after musaf.

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