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GH: Yes and no….It depends on family circumstances and at what price. For a family struggling to pay tuition, pay for essentials, have deferred repairs on the family’s car, and agonized several weeks ago over paying an extra $20 for a nicer esrog to be mehader mitzah, paying several hundred dollars to attend the siyum live is probably NOT worth it. For those more fortunate, price is not any issue.
Will the siyum be webcast live? While being there is always preferable, some may feel that observing the proceedings from a recliner in their heated luxury suite (their living room) with a personal chef catering to their culinary preferences (aka their wife’s leftover kugel from Shabbos with some take-out sushi) at ZERO cost would be preferable on what could be a cold, snowy New Years’ Day.
The facility and vendor charges change from year to year along with the projections of attendees. I don’t recall the prices for prior years and how they were allocated across the stadium, but they have always had staggered price levels so those at the top subsidized those at the bottom. They are not claiming to have “problems”….that’s your term. If the seats don’t sell at current price levels, than they should cut them gradually since at this point, the marginal cost of additional attendees is very low.
A yid cannot just give a “simple” yes/no to a very complex question….. we must bring down and illuminate BOTH sides of the issue before providing a reasoned, non-committal opinion.
“For the thousands who cannot afford the pricey seats while others are dining on steaks & wine, this won’t lead to much chizuk Hatorah at all..”
A really stupid and cheap shot at the organizers and baalei’ tzadakah who are already subsidizing the lower cost seats…..Maybe to make this more egalitarian and provide more “chizuk” to the masses, the Agudah should just stage the event on 13th avenue and have the gadolim stand on top of a few flatbed trucks with big ‘boom box” speakers
מצות אהבת ישראל – לאהב כל אחד מישראל אהבת נפש, כלומר שנחמל על ישראל ועל ממונו כמו שאדם חומל על עצמו וממונו, שנאמר (ויקרא י( ואהבת לרעך כמור ודיני מצוה זו, כלולים הם בתוך המצוה, שכלל הכל הוא שיתנהג האדם עם חברו כמו שיתנהג האדם עצמו לשמר ממונו ולהרחיק ממנו כל נזק. ואם יספר עליו דברים יספרם לשבח ויחוס על כבודו ולא יתכבד בקלונו, וכמו שאמרו זכרונם לברכה (ירושלמי חגיגה פ”ב ה”א) המתכבד בקלון חברו אין לו חלק לעולם הבא, והמתנהג עם חברו דרך אהבה ושלום ורעות ומבקש תועלתם ושמח בטובם עליו הכתוב אומר (ישעיהו מט ג): ישראל אשר בך אתפאר.
As they say, don’t risk your chelek of olam haboh by being too selective in your choice of who is “Reacha” based on your lack of empathy and understanding of others whose hashkafah is different from yours
Two reasons.
First, the ticket prices reflect the cost of renting the stadium and all the operational costs of staging the event. They are already charging VERY high prices to those in the better seats (well above cost) to subsidize folks like you who kevetch about $100 tickets. No one says you have to bring all the kids to sit in the cold for 3-5 hoursSecond, I suspect a large part of the reason for unsold seats is simply that the unsold seats are those in the open areas of MetLife stadium where many are reluctant to commit for a New Years’ day event when the temperature could be a bit on the “cool” side.
KY: He had some fairly storng wrods for certain segments of the tzibur whose practices and behavior he did not approve of. Whether this was “tough love” or simply the Rav delivering his own unique brand of musar is hard to tell.
Reb Yosef: Edited-tactless 🤨 Thus, there are many meforshim who opine that “18” really can be read as 18-20 YO and even then, that is when they should START looking for their beschert, not that they MUST be married as of the date they can legally purchase their first beer at the kiddush club (on chol ha’moed of course).
Going back to the originalpost, WHO CARES about their temporal position on the so called “Totem Pole” of mesorah. If moisiach shows up tomorrow and he is from a chassidus that dates back 1755, will we tell him we cannot follow all his instructions since we hold by another Rebbelah whose yichus dates from the late 1600s??
Nor those who ar in positions of power (or very close to those who are) and rmain silent in the face of evil
If a big rebbe or even the most poishete yid has a melody in his mind and begins hunning if is that “yiddeshe music” . Does the individual have tovisualize lyrics from t’nach to make it legt?
If a young man lacks the” שקול הדעת” to make such a far reaching decision, than he shouldn’t be pushed to marry and start a family.
Rachamim: You left out Baltimore’s single most significant attribute…..The Ravens are HOT….the Giants/Jets are NOT. Why would any self-respecting Yid want to continue suffering the busha of another losing season where the only reason to ever step foot into MetLife stadium is a siyum .
“Some of their clientele don’t have internet and I wouldn’t be surprised that this is the bulk of people that take the carriages”… “What is that supposed to mean”
I think he is saying that there is a group of yidden who shop at Moishas’ who follow the hashkafah of the Tsemishte Rebbe which holds that it is assur to use the internet but OK to steal shopping carts.
On a serious note, your son is probably the one who knows best whether he is “ready”. The pressure some would place on our young men and women to marry “as early as possible” creates unnecessary stress. Your son should have much hatzlacha and find a wonderful girl with whom to build a bayis ne’eman b’yisroel.
Why doesn’t Moisha simply provide an online purchase and delivery service option to its customers so they don’t have to drive and park several blocks away and then “steal” the shopping carts when they have to shlepp their groceries back to the car etc. Its much more efficient and convenient to have a single truck drop stuff off to people’s homes meaning less traffic, less double parking, less noise and pollution (and more time to help the kids with their homework). As the technology rapidly evolves, even smaller markets will find it cost-effective to offer this option to their customers.
How is it that we can skip over a year in time and some will just enter a thread from October 2018 w/o missing a beat. Do you assume that the OPoster has further discounted these already “cheap” seforim and now is the time to cut a deal???
99 percent of the time, you will get a more accurate prophecy from Princess. Zora on 13th avenue in Brooklyn than some “mekubal” who flies over from EY and places online ads offering forecasts and segulahss for a “modest contribution”. Take the money and give it to your favorite tzedakah, learn and extra few hours every week, say a few kapitalach tehillim and ask your local rav/posek for advice on whatever it is you feel the need to know about the future.
As Reb Yosef noted, he is probably 4-5 yearis too late…..all the good girls are gone
CT Lawyer: You are 100 percent correct….I’ve gotten too used to parking an SUV in a large open parking lot and pulling up to the front of the market’s entrance and having the “loading guy” carry my Tikun Olam Inon-plastic) bags from the cart to my car. Its been a few decades since I schlepped 5 blocks with my mother wheeling our own shopping carts to the market and shlepping it home. I can understand the role of the store’s shopping carts have become a surrogate for those we used t bring from home (we never owned a car back then).
Philip: In fairnes ot Reb Yosef, he moved out of his mother’s basement years ago. His trolls are consistently well informed, articulate and occasionally humorous.
Does anyone believe Rav Yolish’s shitah on Tzionim and living and cooperating with the Medinah would be any different today than when he first articulated his views 70* years ago??
CT Lawyer has a good idea but even easier and more effective are the shopping carts now the norm in most big cities in Japan and China which use a chip that triggers a locking system on the cart wheels if someone tries to wheel them through the exit doors. I suspect the system pays for itself within a year or so by substantially reducing cart losses or damage.
Reb Yosef: I had forgotten that size does matter…..BTW Baltimore has multiple shuls mikvos but obviously not on the scale of Brooklyn or Lakewood
The choice is NOT between BP, Willy and “inner-Baltimore”…..this is a big country with lots of options for frum yidden to locate where crime is minimal and quality of life and affordability are considerably better than the older metro areas where yidden settled over 100 years ago. One does NOT need close proximity to 12 yeshivos, 6 mikvahs, and dozens of kosher markets to be a shomer torah u’mitzvos.
Meir: Perhaps better to frame your question as to why a frum yid with a young family would want to STAY in the NYC metro area.
Baltimore is great if you focus on OOOB rather than just OOT……(outer outside of Baltimore…aka Owings Mill etc). I wouldn’t move a family into the older areas around Ner Tamid etc. when there a really lovely areas in the suburbs with really nice 4-5 BR homes available for less than $1 million.
“The level of Torah is higher in Yeshivos in Eretz Yisroel”
What is the metric you are using in re your assessment of the level of torah in EY “higher” or “lower” than in chutz la’aretz.. I’ve asked the same question in re the frequent assertions that the “gadolim” of the alte heim were greater than those of today. Seems like a highly subjective assertion given the incredible growth of yeshivos here in the U.S.If you had the poor judgment to purchase an open-air seat in the upper, upper grandstand (perhaps to be closer to the ebeshter in himmel), than you might bring along an umbrella, fleece-lined raincoat (checked for shatnes of course) and a big thermos of chulent (assuming you have a seat near the proper facilities). Otherwise, just rely upon the energy of your davening and tanzin to generate sufficient heat to melt the snow.
Not a problem. The ads celarly state that Siyuum tickets include
*Private enclosed Suite holder entrance and lobby protected from the elements
* Fully adjustable and precise heating and air-condition systems
*Private suite level washrooms
*Multiple flat-panel televisions in each suite
*Wet bar and fine wine and spirit selection
*Outstanding culinary options from the finest NYC restaurants, all with Chassideshe hashgachaWhich Uncle Moishe, Reb Tannenbaum or Reb Berktin??? If i recall, the beis din said BOTH could lay claim to be Uncle Moishe??? However, there was, is and will always be only ONE Lipa.
Meir G: I’d be very excited about the “1/2 off sushi”…..its one thing to purchase a discounted chunk of carp near its pull date to be ground up for gefilte fish but you must have great emunah to feed the family tekka maki on the cheap.
1 Purchasing an item with the intent of using and deriving value from it and then returning it is mamash ganavah since the value or the returned item for the storekeeper has been substantially reduced but then again, you will say that is the store’s tough luck since their return policy didn’t explicitly prohibit such returns. Some expect yidden to act morally but I suspect your were a big fan of Bernie Madoff and the others who believe it is an obligation of yidden to push the boundaries of unethical behavior.
Oocho: I assume its ok to provide the URL below since it is linked on the home page of YWN.
https://thesiyum.org/On the center of that page is the link to “Reserve Ticket”. Note that for the siyum website (and many other sites as we move towards year-end 2020) you must use any web browser other than Internet Explorer which will NOT work.
Ocho….please adjust the filter on your web browser. For 99.9 percent of us, its impossible to log-in to YWN without seeing an ad reminding you to purchase tickets for the Siyum.
Reb Yosef: You were probably focused on your usual heilege endavors and missed the news several weeks ago when the Democratic controlled state legislature in Connecticut enacted new laws mandating a transition to vegetarian diets in the state by 2025 to help combat global warming (given that the red meat food cycle and bovine emissions are known to be one of the primary sources of methane). The law provided a narrow exemption for yidden for a de minimis Shabbos portion of fleishto satisfy Halacha and minhagim. CT Lawyer was one of the first to sign the pledge and commit to achieve compliance with the new statute and has banned steaks from his Connecticut estate (although he might indulge periodically visiting misphaca in Brooklyn). From now on its only tofu chulent and Impossible Burgers.
I suspect that with really careful shopping (lots of Costco visits) and batch cooking, it would still be possible to feed a family of 6 or 7 for a month with a minimally sufficient nutritional diet on $500 but it would take lots of time from a talented “chef” to provide diversity, visually attractive and tasteful meals. I also realize that this may not be a matter of “choice” for many frum families so kol hakovod to those who manage well on limited means.
There is unfortunately an incredible level of cheating and plagiarism in the educational system as evidenced by the recent prosecution and guilty pleas of dozens of parents who in some cases paid hundreds of thousand of dollars to “consultants” to get their kids into college. Anyone in NYC knows the stories about bribes paid to get their babies into prestigious pre-school programs. You can go online and google the terms “term papers”, “compositions” “essays” etc. and you will find multiple offers to write them for you for a modest “fee”. Parents “help” their kids with essays on college applications or purchase a pre-drafted essay online.
The good news is that schools are now using sophisticated software to detect such cheating by comparing it to tens of millions of other documents already online or flagging writing patterns that seem different form other samples of the individual’s writings.
Most docs are also recommending to eat and much lighter diet (both in quantity and color) for a few days prior to the procedure. Makes it easier for you to clear the system and for them to get a clear, unobstructed view for any polyps
Reb Yosef: For the same reason a Torah V’Daas boy would have to learn how to communicate his thoughts in the English language. Of course, you can offer us Troll theme No. 3,231 version 3.07 asserting why a girl shouldn’t be educated, should remain at home to the maximum extent and avoid and PDI (public display of intelligence).
xcel……if you spend $200 for Shabbos for a family of 7, that leaves $200 for the other 6 days or approximately 35/day for the family or $5/day per kid. I suspect you are either terrible at math or at risk of a visit from child protective services for child abuse. NYC spends about $8/day for food for its juvenile detention facilities.