Gadolhadorah

All too often, we read here about yidden in some town or suburb opposing a zoning variance for some shul, yeshiva or other mosdos and immediately he/she is tagged as a “self-hating” jew. In most cases, its a NIMBY thing and has nothing to do with anti-semitism. There are many legitimate reasons why an erhliche yid would oppose such a variance just as there are many BAD reasons why both a yid or goy would seek to block such a variance. Its fact specific and very naive to assume ANY opposition to a non-conforming use is rooted in bias and anti-semitism.

Several NYS camps have leased camp facilities at locations in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire etc. and there are a few “orthodox” camps in Florida and California. You can find these options by searching on the internet. Otherwise, plan local activities for the summer. Most of the major museums will be re-opening later in July (Met Museum of Art later in August). Check first since some are requiring time-window reservations to spread out the attendance. Most parks in the city and within short driving distance from the City are also open or reopening in the next several weeks although some will have limited activities, again to limit large gatherings. In any event, these will be only partial substitutes for harried moms who already have been caring for the kids at home for 3 months.

Syag: Sarcasm, trolling, and bad jokes are all prima facie evidence of systemic anti-semitism by CR posters. Clearly, yeshivos shouldn;t be concerned with “misspellings” (is that how it is spellled??

P.S. I thought Webster’s partner in that dictionary deal was named Chanalah, not “miriam”.
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” If the chasisdim shvitz like the rebbe (I did not make up the term) with fur hats in the summer why should the rest of us be uncomfortable too? ”

CT Rebbe: A very deep and thought provoking question. Perhaps the answer is that they DON’T shivtz and when worn by a true tzadik, Shtreimlach actually have a cooling effect. Perhaps all the misnagdim have been missing the point all along.

New York’s demise has been predicted on multiple occasions, only to see it rebound. Each time they say “its over” but I have no reason to believe it will be much different this time around. New York will be back in a year or two (likely with new political leadership) but sadly neither the Knicks or the Mets seem to have much a future.

Chazal bring down that we will not need to quarantine for 14 days when arriving in EY for the geulah when Moishiach comes. However, there is a disagreement as to whether face mask rules will apply on the flight over. I also noticed that the OP included the caveat that “we are VERY LIKELY the generation that POSSIBLY ” will greet Moishiach etc. Thus, while not questioning Reb Yosef’s decision to pack his bags I would strongly suggest CR readers consider purchasing a REFUNDABLE fare.

After scanning a random set of videos from the protests I’d guess that somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the participants on average were wearing masks. Also, they were OUTDOORS and a lot of them were trying to stay at some distance from others. Last night in Tulsa, INDOORS, about 10 percent were wearing masks and sgitting on top of one another (although based on the low turnout they could have left every other seat empty)

Common Saychel: Years from now, your kids will look back and really appreciate the opportunity you provided them to travel and see parts of our great country they learn about in school and perhaps see on TV. They are fortunate because I suspect many frum families don’t have the time, resources or motivation to pursue this type of summer vacation.

Not to minimize the loss of Tallis/Tefillin, which I hope are found and returned to him, these days its encouraging to read about a case where an older yid is admitted to the hospital and B’H is released the next day.

When asked in a recent Fox interview why he didn’t take steps on January 21, 2017 to replenish the “empty cupboards”, The Trumpkof replied that he was too busy busy keeping out Muslims, writing love letters to North Korean President Kim-Jung-Un and most importantly, spending 133 days during my first 3 years as President playing golf at Trump properties, not to even mention the personal stress from the Russia Hoas.

Echo: Not sure if you are serious or trolling but if the former, you might aliyah to the PRC since the government is in the process of installing the world’s most advanced and intrusive camera/video monitoring technology with an AI capability of tracking a billion souls 24×7 and providing instantaneous locational information on problematic individuals. A new version of 1984 in 2020.

“when I was a child going to the airport to watch the planes take off and land”

Perhaps going to the Home Depot to watch their demonstrations of how to tile your shower in the Post-Corona era or if you are up in the Mountains for the Summer,

edited. Is it really that difficult to write a post without adding a smear of the frum community? I did notice you refrained over the last few months, sorry to see it’s revival -29

Otherwise, the outdoor tables at Tavern on the Green and several other city parks provide a nice place for a drink with the benefits of an outside venue.
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Don’t underestimate how Gorsuch’s opinion, aside from his obvious effort to demonstrate “consistency” in his textual approach to legal interpretation, will also help tee up a future effort to further narrow so-called
Chevron deference”, in terms of how the Courts defer to agency interpretations of statute based on their assumed subject matter “expertise”, where the statute fails to provide detailed guidance on implementation.

Parents should be focused on how their kids’ schools are preparing for reopening this fall, both in terms of adopting the needed safety protocols recommended by the CDC and how the kids will make up for 3 months of lost in-class instruction. Do the schools start with the lesson plans where they left off in March or do they begin the new school year with the new grade lesson plans as if the kids were able to pick up all the “missed” instruction either through zoom classes, home-schooling etc? `

The reality is that he looking for some way to leave office 18 months early without seeming to be slinking away with a well-deserved reputation as the greatest loser in NY political history. I checked the NYC code and State constitution and did not find any provision providing for removal of a mayor from office in the same manner as the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides for removal of POTUS for physical or mental incapacitation. Fortunately, the late night talk show hosts will have him around to ridicule until 2022.

Syag: As I said, everyone has their own risk assessment metrics. In this cases, mine are quite different from yours. You are obviously free to expose yourself and your kids to whatever risk factors (or lack thereof) your personal circumstances warrant and I wish you well.

Uncommonsaychel: You must have real nevius. That would be exactly my plan but for a government travel ban which currently restricts entry to virtually all foreign travelers other than Australia. Hopefully, they will expand their “bubble” sometime later this summer. They seem to have a bit more seychel over there regarding social distancing, masks, etc. than the lunatics lined up on top of one another on erev shabbos last week in Las Vegas with no masks to grab a place at a slot machine. I was even impressed by their demonstration in support of the BLM movement in downtown Auckland where for the most part everyone was wearing masks and showing some distancing (in contrast to the mob scenes were see here in the U.S.)

My somewhat contrarian comment which confused Syag and drew concurrence from Reb Yosef was really a mix of fact and fantasy. As I’ve noted in other posts, I wouldn’t remotely consider sending my kids off to a sleep-away camp this year under the circumstances. I’m normally not that risk averse but here the risk adjusted consequences (% likelihood of infection X the mortality/morbidity outcomes) make it an easy decision for me. Responsible parents and yiddeshe mosdos (using my metrics) should be planning to find lower risk options for kids staying home this year. Nothing is “risk-free” but but the risks of sending kids to camp at this point have been well documented and the theoretical solutions offered by some camp operators, while commendable, are simply not workable.

Perhaps those posters who blame “the magafah” on the census should share their revelations with the Trumpkpopf. Since his rants and tweets blaming the (Wuhand) Magafah on China have not gotten much traction,, he can float some trial balloons blaming the pandemic on the “deep state” operatives at the U.S. Census Bureau.

Strange that just before scanning the latest posts on this thread, I had read an uplifting story in the news section about some guy named Gary in the Detroit community who had arranged to renovate and distribute thousands of bikes to kids in the community who had been stuck at home for 2 months and just being allowed outside. What an act of tzadakah and kindness. Here were are debating the halachic pros/cons of community members who “informed” on those who violated public health guidelines because they felt their OWN needs were more important than those of the tzibur-at-large. As noted above, I think the informers should be celebrated as heroes and the idiots who endorsed this shunning are the one to be treated as outcasts.

One can tell the Corona fixation is B’H beginning to wane by the titles of some of the recent CR posts. Now we can get back to normal with a focus on the shidduch crisis, WoW making a scene at the Kosel and the latest sighting of moishiach on Eastern Parkway.

Schnitzel: Lots of shops shut down today in Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan. Notwithstanding, the opinions expressed by some in the tziur, the Sherriff’s closings were spread across both yiddeshe and goiyeshe owned small business and there was little evidence of some anti-Semitic tirade by the Mayor. The officers were doing their job and enforcing the rules. Some did stay open without any problems while others were closed for the day. I suspect that Cuomo and the Mayor have gotten the message and will begin relaxing the rules later this week for all small stores, subject to the same rules the big stores had to follow regarding percentage occupancy, social distancing, masks etc.

Haimy: The governor has not focused on yeshivos. All schools in New Jersey, public and private, are under the SAME rules. With few exceptions, ALLl parents want their kids back in school ASAP for the kids’ mental health and their own. Murphy has already said that schools WILL reopen in the Fall even without a vaccine. At this point, there is limited agreement what schools need to do to reopen safely and it will take some time (and $$) for the required changes in physical facilities and operating procedures.

I missed the question mark?? So take my comment (minus the rhetorical reference to POTUS) as a response to your question. As noted, stupid decisions all around back in March that cost lives and now mean it will take a bit longer to reopen NY metro area safely. Too bad this has so quickly deteriorated into another facet of the toxicity of our politics and culture wars.

Yidden don’t need the Trumpkopf to tell us that davening is “essential”, but that is NOT the issue for purposes of whether it is “safe” yet to hold minyanim in shuls that either cannot or will not undertake the necessary investments in their facilities and practices to conform the CDC and state guidelines. The comparison to opening liquor stores is beyond stupid since the latter have able to restrict the numbers of customers in a store at any time and enforce social distancing compared to a shul with dozens or even hundreds of daveners in close proximity. Most importantly, the Trumpkopf could care less about spiritual welfare. This was a political stunt for his right wing evangelical voters since he has ZERO legal authority to “override” state laws and orders. He can direct his AG to file an amicus in court cases or even bring a case in federal court but otherwise, even Republican lawyers agree his statement was a joke.