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The most significant benefit flowing to an American bochur able to spend 3 or 4 years shteiging at the Hareidi Harvard (aka Brisk) is that when he comes home to Brooklyn or Lakewood, the shadchanim are lined up at the airport arrival area to introduce him to the daughters of their wealthiest clients who come with a lifetime of financial support and they don’t have to worry about the “w” word.

” the gezeira on yeshivos to be worse than the gezeira of Corona itself, with many bochurim going to work….”

A truly mindless analogy. The rules governing who is allowed in to EY and under what terms are the best effort by public health officials to manage the risks of bringing in outside infections on top of an already high communal infection spread. They are trying their best under conditions of great uncertainty and are still learning about the virus and what guidelines work. Yes, it is inconveniencing some American bochurim who might have planned to attend yeshivos in EY. But for nO mesorah to say the that having some bochurim earn some money in the interim to help support themselves and finance the tuition when they can return is worse than being infected with the virus? Either a bad joke or someone who truly is detached from reality.

Do you have a drone over the compound taking pictures of the damage like the insurance company ads on TV?

Which leads to the question of IF and WHEN a mask can be “untzniusdik”??

The No. 1 Reason not to vote Republican:

The Trumpkopf…..also reason nos. 2-10.

“Who cares what he {Fauci} says?!?….These Government Health agencies survive – when there is Disease & No Easy Treatment!”

So true…..We should be much more willing to rely on experts such as the Trumpokopf and his gang of “medical experts” he finds on Fox and Breitbart and most importantly, the world class medical experts here in the CR than our own government’s medical health experts.. The latter are all part of the “deep state” and want as many Americans as possible to die from Covid so as to defeat the Trumpkopf. Our kiddush club has decided to add a splash of chlorox to the first round of l’chayim scotch in honor of the Trumpkopf’s contributions to medical science and defeating the Invisible Enemy.
P.S. TDS has been shown to be an inevitable outcome of reading the Trumpkopf’s tweets on Covid treatment.

Unless the Raleigh has done a massive rennovation over the past year, I’d steer clear. From what I’ve heard from friends who planned to stay their last summer, outside the lobby and a few new “bungalow” type townhouse additions, the place reeks of the 1950s/60s literally and figuratively. Smells in the hallways, dirty linens and carpeting, ancient plumbing, bugs etc. If you must go, check to be sure you are reserving an “upgraded room” and ask specifically what that includes.
Also, consider the Oppenheimer Regis in Fleishmen’s New York. Also frum crowd with chasideshe shechita and shul on site. They’ve upgraded the facility across the board . Still not a 5 star hotel but a step above the Raleigh

Trump buddy Herman Cain, (aka Mr. 999) was niftar today from Covid he likely contracted at an unmasked and socially undistanced Trump campaign event. He was also a big HCQ supporter. Sad to lose anyone to this affliction but perhaps this might get the attention of at least a few of the skeptics.

Coffee Addict; Umein, v’umein, especially when the Trumpkopf seems to engage in non-stop rants that have no basis in science or fact and leave his advisors to constantly begin by saying, “what the President meant to say was that….”. Sadly, there is a large percentage of the American tzibur who still take his Tweets and reality show “news conferences” seriously and thus are confused when confronted with factual and objective assessments based on the best understanding of this virus at a point in time. I’m 100 percent certain that a year from now, some aspects of what we now believe is “torah Moshe M’Sinai” from a public health perspective will have been updated. In the interim, the best we can do is work with what scientists believe are the best protocols.

Have you spoken to the Chabad shaliach in SJ? I was stranded in SJ over shabbos about 18 months ago ( with an airline mechanical issue) and met a wonderful young rav whose name I forget who was originally from Argentina and Western Canada. My presumption is that since each Chabad program is self-funded , they would need to raise money to update and maintain the facility which would be a huge challenge for a shaliach who I presume is already struggling financially. I’d be interested if you have spoken with that Rav or whoever is the current Shaliach whether it would be remotely financially feasible.

In nature, animals that deviate from the accepted “lvush” tend to get “eaten” more frequently by those higher up the food chaing than those that blend in to the herd, so perhaps you have a point. A red corvette is more likely to be ticketed for speeding, even if the driver is simply keeping up with all the other traffic.

Toi Why would you want a bochur in EY to eat saturated fat when there are so many healthier alternatives??

1…..The 11 million “illegal” immigrants are already here. The vast majority do the jobs that Americans won’t do and according to DOJ, have a crime rate that is lower than the national average (notwithstanding the constant Trump lies to the contrary. Biden has a strong pro-Israel record and has consistently opposed the boycott etc. demands of the left-wing of the Democratic Party. After his incredibly disgusting and moronic comments about the virus, Biden looks a lot better than another 4 years of the status quo.

SE2015. Well said. There is a fairly high certainty we will see some spike this fall in CV 19 in parallel with the start of the regular flu season. That is a given. The good news is that hopefully there is some level of antibody immunity in a segment of the frum tzibur and we have better protocols for treating those who are hospitalized. However, NYC has just issued guidelines for City Schools this fall limiting classes to 3 days per week and imposing strict rules on masks, social distancing, sanitation etc. for all school facilities in the City. Not clear if Gov Cuomo will again try to trump the mayor and impose even more burdensome rules but we know that Schools this falls will be limited. Also unclear whether these rules will affect yeshivos. More likely that yeshivos will be governed by the State/Cuomo statewide school reopening rules coming out later in the week

A month ago we were reading almost daily hespeds about so many rabbonim and askanim dying from COVID and now you guys are all declaring “life is back to normal” etc. I hope you are right but fear that come this fall/winter we will be again at risk if prudent behaviors are allowed to lapse. If you think shutting down summer camps poses a hardship on some frum families, wait and see what happens if the schools are again forced to shut down and shift over to Zoom classes because the recommendations of the public health professionals were ignored

Anonyid: I haven’t forgotten Bill nor so many other pols, both D and R or powerful men whose accusers have been mocked and vilified over the past several decades. What may have passed for “consensual” or “boys being boys” years ago will not fly today. However, Epstein’s saga is by far the most blatant and appalling of them all. I ‘m hoping she cuts a plea deal and provides information that will lead to some of those abusers and rapists being prosecuted and convicted. Whether it be Dershowitz, Clinton, Prince Andrew, Trump or ANY of the powerful, lets hope the truth ultimately comes out and justice is served for the guilty and those falsely accused be exonerated. .

From a purely financial return perspective purchasing Israeli bonds are a much better “investment” than U.S. Savings Bonds. From the perspective of yidden, its a no-brainer.

So we should ignore the 15+ women who claim to have been sexually assaulted by the Trumpkopf, his own words on video claiming the right to engage in such assaults etc. but focus on claims by other women who claim that Maxwell recruited them to engage in sexual acts with Epstein’s high-powered friends such as Dershowitz. If she admits to Dershowitz, than perhaps next we move on to Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew, all of whom have been the target of Epstein-related allegations (and in each case denied).

The one thing we are 100% certain about in relation to the virus is that we DON”T KNOW very much about its long-term effects and the high level of symptomatic variability as compared to prior viral epidemics. Your case appears to have some of the longer term, secondary complications but not necessarily all. The good news is that initial data shows these effects gradually go away but the timelines again are highly case-specific.
You should have a refuah shelamah, sooner rather than later.

“destroy the suburbs”????
Yup…..the Democratic platform will feature a proposal to require pink plastic flamingos and “Black Lives Matter” signs on every lawn, allowing greedy landlords to subdivide single family homes and bus in low-life tenants from the “big city” to ruin the neighborhoods and disallow above ground backyard pools. Suburban life as we know it will be gone forever.
Thanks for the warning.

Akuperma’s legal and political analysis is entirely correct. In states such as NY and NJ, the wording of the decision provides a very clear roadmap for the Democratic legislative majorities to limit funding for religious schools only to certain narrow areas such as security and compliance with health and safety regulations. This is especially true in a period where public school budgets will have to be cut back to reflect loss of tax revenues from the pandemic. One positive is that Dept of Education guidelines under DeVos are focused on allowing special funds allocated by Congress to deal with Pandemic issues to go equally to private and religious school students.

“Since when does anyone get all broigas about a comment not directly answering an OP?”

Never happened before…..the Mods strictly enforce rules requiring that all comments be directly on point and germane to the OP. Violators are subject to being severely trolled.

“Don’t judge a book by its cover. Nor a bochur by his levush.”

Nor a troll by the implicit seriousness of the question or the absurdities of the responses. Ode to penguins.

Its already July. The camps will not have time to recruit counselors, dining room staff, nurses etc. for the 2020 summer season. These staff are not just sitting home ready to jump on a bus tomorrow. Preparations for the new protocols would take weeks and most camps have NOT been willing to make those investments without knowing whether they would be allowed to open this year. Hopefully by next summer we will have an effective vaccine which should be a prerequisite for any kids allowed to attend camp. My biggest fear now is that with all the conflicting information and condensed test timeline, many parents will be reluctant to vaccinate their kdis.

AnonJew: Surprised the neighbor was allowed into the shul with his boombox, much less allowed to play it in the shul. How times have changed. I do agree entirely that in most cases, its what I called the NIMBY/quality of life factors (aka parking, noise, trash accumulation etc) and not anti-semitism that triggers opposition, whether to a proposed shul or small evangelical church seeking to locate in an otherwise residential neighborhood.